Hence, if the "N"-pointing end of a compass points to a magnetic pole, then you know that pole is "S". And if the "S"-pointing end of a compass points to a magnetic pole, then you know that pole is "N".
Subject: [mylow_magmo] Re: what is "N"? A compass N is a magnetic seeking Earth S according to this
Polarity
In physics, all magnets have two poles that are distinguished by the direction of the magnetic flux. In principle these poles could be labelled in any way; for example, as "+" and "-", or "A" and "B". However, based on the early use of magnets in compasses they were named the "north pole" (or more explicitly "north-seeking pole"), "N", and the "south pole" (or "south-seeking pole"), "S", with the north pole being the pole that pointed north (i.e. the one attracted to the Earth's North Magnetic Pole). Because opposite poles attract, the Earth's North Magnetic Pole is therefore, by this definition, physically a magnetic field south pole.[ 1][2][3] Conversely, the Earth's South Magnetic Pole is physically a magnetic field north pole.
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Brian K <briank102a@...> To: Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda@...> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:29:36 AM Subject: Video of Howard Johnson Magnet Train demo Attached
Hi Sterling,
Here is the youtube video that was taken down show the lab collection of Howard Johnson. I got it from my web cache.
It plays nicely on Media Player Classic, but stutters when using VLC. I'm fascinated at the foil that HJ used and the randomness of the magnets on the train demo.
Screen shot here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.new;topicseen#top
--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@...> wrote:
>
> A video was posted today that I was looking at this evening that showed
analysis of the speed of rotation of Mylow's 6-magnet motor. It isn't just
ticking rotation by rotation, but actually shows the speed of the motor over
much shorter increments.
>
> Now the video has been removed from public viewing. I was hoping to get some
screen shots and to post a page about it. There's a lot of good information
there.
>
> Did any of you make a copy of that?
>
> Though the person posting it jumped to the conclusion of fraud, the data is
very interesting and could help us better understand what is going on with the
motor.
>
> It shows basically three very distinct humps of acceleration and deceleration
per rotation, and it shows that the primary pushes do not come while the rotor
magnets are going by the stator.
>
> I hope whoever posted that will make it public again.
>
> I'd be curious to see this same kind of analysis done on the videos of earlier
configurations.
>
> Sterling
>
Andy,
That is one beautiful stator assembly. The only thing is you are not allowing
for is the gap between them. Wish I could do machining like that. What do you
use for a gig to mount it on?
James
--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Graham" <andydidge@...> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Check out my adjustable stator in the Photos section (Andy Graham). I hope it
inspires anyone. Everything is aluminum including the threaded rod.
>
> It's great to be able to adjust the relationship between the two stator mags,
but unfortunately, it does not seem to make a difference.
>
> I have gone from one side of the range to the other, but the cogging still
occurs (augh!).
>
> I have the right magnets and copied Mylow's spacings (including asymmetries)
exactly..but nothing yet.
>
> I have a nice heavy aluminum disc and excellent bearings. It's just boggling
my mind how he got the 6-magnet only array to continue turning.
>
> Of course, I'm so messed up on the North vs South pole thing that I dont know
which end is up. I have a 'control' magnet marked N on the face that the compass
needle points to (I tried all the compasses in the store...they thought I was
strange).
>
> Any suggestions?? Should I flip the rotor magnets?
>
> -Andy
>
Heck, just buy the finished product! Just call S and S Machine in CA.
916-731-0201 or Email steve@...
5/16 By 16.73 inches AL disc @ $15.32 Each, about 8 dollars shipping. Robust!
They have a LOT of them from some process I think or the end results of some
milling project.
Best/quickest cheapest I know. 4 small holes in it, about 1/8 90 degrees
around. I bought two, that's I'm going to use. Very fast ship.
Ben
--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "wavecycles" <wavecycles@...> wrote:
>
> I am getting close to final assembly of my replication.
> I think it is about as close as I can get other than the
> fact that my disc is 18" in diameter and to my knowledge
> MyLow's is 17-3/4".
>
> Even if I place the magnets at 17-3/4" there will still be
> a 1/4" of aluminum to the outside of the magnets and since
> everyone is having so much trouble replicating I don't want
> to have that extra aluminum outside edge be the thing that
> stops my replication from working.. I have tried several things
> in my little shop but cutting this aluminum plate is very hard..
>
> I have in my shop..
> Table Saw
> Band Saw
> Jig Saw
> Skill Saw
> Roto Zip
> Table Grinder
> Wet Grinder
>
> I am looking a getting a metal blade from my table saw and maybe trying that..
but the grinders just can't do the job...
>
> Thanks for any advice in advance..
>
> Or MyLow can tell me that he thinks the extra aluminum on the outside should
not make any difference..
>
All,
Check out my adjustable stator in the Photos section (Andy Graham). I hope it
inspires anyone. Everything is aluminum including the threaded rod.
It's great to be able to adjust the relationship between the two stator mags,
but unfortunately, it does not seem to make a difference.
I have gone from one side of the range to the other, but the cogging still
occurs (augh!).
I have the right magnets and copied Mylow's spacings (including asymmetries)
exactly..but nothing yet.
I have a nice heavy aluminum disc and excellent bearings. It's just boggling my
mind how he got the 6-magnet only array to continue turning.
Of course, I'm so messed up on the North vs South pole thing that I dont know
which end is up. I have a 'control' magnet marked N on the face that the compass
needle points to (I tried all the compasses in the store...they thought I was
strange).
Any suggestions?? Should I flip the rotor magnets?
-Andy
A video was posted today that I was looking at this evening that showed analysis of the speed of rotation of Mylow's 6-magnet motor. It isn't just ticking rotation by rotation, but actually shows the speed of the motor over much shorter increments.
Now the video has been removed from public viewing. I was hoping to get some screen shots and to post a page about it. There's a lot of good information there.
Did any of you make a copy of that?
Though the person posting it jumped to the conclusion of fraud, the data is very interesting and could help us better understand what is going on with the motor.
It shows basically three very distinct humps of acceleration and deceleration per rotation, and it shows that the primary pushes do not come while the rotor magnets are going by the stator.
I hope whoever posted that will make it public again.
I'd be curious to see this same kind of analysis done on the videos of earlier configurations.
I am getting close to final assembly of my replication.
I think it is about as close as I can get other than the
fact that my disc is 18" in diameter and to my knowledge
MyLow's is 17-3/4".
Even if I place the magnets at 17-3/4" there will still be
a 1/4" of aluminum to the outside of the magnets and since
everyone is having so much trouble replicating I don't want
to have that extra aluminum outside edge be the thing that
stops my replication from working.. I have tried several things
in my little shop but cutting this aluminum plate is very hard..
I have in my shop..
Table Saw
Band Saw
Jig Saw
Skill Saw
Roto Zip
Table Grinder
Wet Grinder
I am looking a getting a metal blade from my table saw and maybe trying that..
but the grinders just can't do the job...
Thanks for any advice in advance..
Or MyLow can tell me that he thinks the extra aluminum on the outside should not
make any difference..
It is still very troubling to me that there has not been a single replication of
a motor that has lasted for 12 hours even after mylow has given us as much
information that he has. Yes some last for 10 -20 minutes, but I wonder why
has there not been a replication elsewhere?
Here are some reasons that go thru my mind.
1. Wrong materials.... the magnets and the plate are different from what Mylow
is using.
2. Wrong method. Mylow does something in his method that we are not catching,
or we don't have the "midas" touch that he has. Perhaps Mylow has the fingers
that just "know" the right place. He may be specially gifted at this art.
3. The replicators are putting too little effort into the pursuit, or are doing
poor methods. Looking at the high quality of 4 of the replications efforts on
Youtube I do not believe this to be the case. I do believe much sleep has been
lost in the pursuit of knowing if this is real or not.
4. Mylow is a awesome fake. In the back of many people's minds is the thought
that there are strings being pulled in the background air is flowing or some
other method is being used. Man, I hope this is not true, and I hope the
other reasons is at play. In this thought is why I see it so important that
Sterling has a working wheel to show the world. To some this may seem like pure
heresy, as why do you post this, don't you believe in Mylow? I believe in what
is tested by third parties, and can be replicated. Until third party testing
has been shown, then we are risking all on the few that tell us it is so.
I still would like to see a working model given to Sterling so that he can
measure take to shows and relieve the stress that Mylow has gone thru. If
Sterling has a working model then he can take gause readings and continue to
set a pattern that this device can be replicated. I also hope that a
replication is completed, but not at the expense of Mylows life and family
apart. I believe it is good we let Mylow get some rest and breaks away from
this project. He seemed much more focused after he returned from his break.
But not everyone gives into my likes :) The time that Sterling and Mylow has
is their own, they can do what they please.
The focus of this group has been a working replication, and I do hope that
perhaps Mylow could train Sterling how to do this one on one, or give Sterling a
working model is in the hands of Sterling so it can be studied ( and not taken
apart ).
I would propose a test....
Can we take the exact spacing that Mylow has shown ( maybe take a marker and put
lines around the present magnets, remove them and put another set in their
place, and see if it works. If they don't then the exact spacing is not the
key, but rather the "feel" of putting them in place.
As well, does a working replication of the wheel made by Mylow work at Sterlings
home? These are the tests I would like to know...
--------------------------------------------------------------
"the reason Mylow's works and others does not is he adds a single magnet at a
time, and then tests to see if that works ( tests how it interacts with the
stator magnet(s)"
I completely agree with this statment; and as I'm assuming, so does Mylow.
Even if you buy the same exact magnets, they WILL have different field strengths
(small variations ofcourse) than the ones Mylow is using.
Getting your own personal arrangement to match Mylow's with precision may not be
what you need to do.
We need to see more of what Mylow is doing as he determines where to put each
magnet on the rotor.
Mylow, I know we have troubled you and your family enough. Thanks for all the
time we are taking from your family to see this through.
-- James
---------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: [mylow_magmo] Re: Replication attempt: 6 Rotor 2 stators - 6 x CB65 + 2 x HS811N
William, I'm glad Sterling has giving me the opportunity to explain. I'm only trying to get the group to understand what is really going on. Some of the functions require a higher form of vector amylases, these are scalar function. What people do not understand about magnets is there are four delta zero magnetic fields in the standard bar magnet by manipulation of these fields you can control the magnetic field. I have over forty years in this field. If you look at how Mylow places the stator magnets there are two points that create a differential vector, he warns about this in the instruction video, they can not be in the center of each magnet, in fact they are in attraction with each other.
When they are placed together like that they form a magnetic switch, but you must get past the first vector first after that your home free. But what I have noticed about the videos so far, is that the gate is not working properly so it is just a matter of adjustment of plus or minus 10 %. My work entails making non liner magnetic fields, in other words moving the zero vectors in the Bloch Wall. Don't want to get to technical here. But keep up the good work it will pay off. John B
--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "William F.Beckett" <wfbauction@...> wrote: > > Hi John, > I am absolutely intrigued by your tutorial explainations concerning the > internal magnetic field switching going on in Mylow's motor. I definitely > appreciate your posts, so please keep them coming. I have a INTUITIVE > hunch that the interactive scenario of the force field conflicts between the > Stator Gate and the Rotor magnetics including the eventual switch > capitulation within the Gate could be sequentially explained by vector > algebra? > Once again I really appreciate and value your observations here on > this forum. > > Cheers > -wfb- >
Hi John,
I'm thinking as hard as I can, only problem is
I think I got half the brain I used to have. My internal
brain clock is definitely slowing down!!
I'm doing the best to "understand" exactly
what and where it is happening before I glue magnets!
With understanding perhaps I can map or detect the switching
area with my hall probe to help in alignment. The biggest problem
is we are not working with very strong fields in this particular design.
Ho Boy......................All the stuff we have discussed
over the years is slowly coming togather...........
Again, thanks for your input!!!!! Your knowledge is a treasure to
this whole area of science.
Ben
In physics, all magnets have two poles that are distinguished by the direction of the magnetic flux. In principle these poles could be labelled in any way; for example, as "+" and "-", or "A" and "B". However, based on the early use of magnets in compasses they were named the "north pole" (or more explicitly "north-seeking pole"), "N", and the "south pole" (or "south-seeking pole"), "S", with the north pole being the pole that pointed north (i.e. the one attracted to the Earth's North Magnetic Pole). Because opposite poles attract, the Earth's North Magnetic Pole is therefore, by this definition, physically a magnetic field south pole.[1][2][3] Conversely, the Earth's South Magnetic Pole is physically a magnetic field north pole.
--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "fleubis" <shubus23@...> wrote: > > No, not a compass. Not good enough. Anybody notice how long this > thread is getting. A Magnetic Pole Detector is a pencil-like device with > a red and green indicator. You point the tip of it at a magnet and > press the button & it tells you if it is North or South. See for > yourself: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mylow_magmo/photos/album/455654724/pic/lis\ > t > > James > > > > --- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Keiser" bk2@ wrote: > > > > aka compass > > bk > > > > > We can resolve this problem by getting Mylow a "Magnetic Pole > Detector" and we have a common frame of reference. See the Photos > Section. > > > > > > James > > > > > >
No, not a compass. Not good enough. Anybody notice how long this thread is getting. A Magnetic Pole Detector is a pencil-like device with a red and green indicator. You point the tip of it at a magnet and press the button & it tells you if it is North or South. See for yourself: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mylow_magmo/photos/album/455654724/pic/list
James
--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Keiser" <bk2@...> wrote: > > aka compass > bk > > > We can resolve this problem by getting Mylow a "Magnetic Pole Detector" and we have a common frame of reference. See the Photos Section. > > > > James > > >
aka compass
bk
> We can resolve this problem by getting Mylow a "Magnetic Pole Detector" and we
have a common frame of reference. See the Photos Section.
>
> James
>
i don't know the guy, but i've read his offer and if i had the gumption and the
money, that's the setup i would use. there have been too many con men and
equally as many sincere but hopeless inventors over the years.
he offers a prize based on verified results. how would you do this differently,
considering the number of incomplete, insincere and uneducated claims out there?
if mylow and his replicators can come through, i trust that erik will also come
through.
(spelling correction: "veracity")
bill keiser
> Sterling :
>
> Eric Krieg is not a true " skeptic " . He's a " hired gun-critic " utilized to
perform character assassination on those that may pose a threat or disruption to
the status quo of those who sponsor his action . He'll resort to avoiding or
twisting truth , spinning facts and generally load his reporting with outright
falsehoods . He can't back up most of what he reports . It's more than evident
that he avoids proper research . Even when Court transcripts refute his position
he denies the verasity saying that the defendent lied to the Judge or that the
Judge errored in his ruling . Actually , the Judge ruled in favor of Dennis Lee
and Dutchman Enterprises based upon the testimony of a scientist who engineers
and designs engines for three new automobile manufacturers possessing two PHD's
in the field . The truth is like gold , ya gotta dig for it !!!
> Jim
Eric Krieg is not a true " skeptic " . He's a " hired gun-critic " utilized to perform character assassination on those that may pose a threat or disruption to the status quo of those who sponsor his action . He'll resort to avoiding or twisting truth , spinning facts and generally load his reporting with outright falsehoods . He can't back up most of what he reports . It's more than evident that he avoids proper research . Even when Court transcripts refute his position he denies the verasity saying that the defendent lied to the Judge or that the Judge errored in his ruling . Actually , the Judge ruled in favor of Dennis Lee and Dutchman Enterprises based upon the testimony of a scientist who engineers and designs engines for three new automobile manufacturers possessing two PHD's in the field . The truth is like gold , ya gotta dig for it !!!
Deliberate lies have a tendency to erase credibility .
If I were Mylow I'd sure as hell keep a safe distance from this fella . Maybe now that he doesn't have Dennis Lee to attack he needs a new victim or a new discovery to suppress or possably steal at the behest of his sponsors . It's been one hell of a gig for EK or more than a decade .
I realize that Sterling is a somewhat associate of EK's , but from my observation he doesn't appear to be of similar ilk , should not be a reflection on him and IMO is a stand up person with an open mind .
To: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com From: rob_smits@... Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:58:21 +0000 Subject: [mylow_magmo] Fw: Re: Criteria for claiming "first independent replication of Mylow's all-magnet motor"
I think many people forget one other possibility between fake and giant discovery.
This mechanism could well run on draining the magnetic energy out of (some of) the magnets.
It will run until these are demagnetized.
We will see soon what is the real energy flow.
Note, I am convinced this will work, but the question is will it be endless or not.
--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@...> wrote:
>
> For those of you who don't know, Eric is one of the more famous OU skeptics. He's the one who appeared recently on Discovery's special on Dennis Lee's HAFC technology. He also happens to be one of the founding members of our New Energy Congress.
> http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:Member:Eric_Krieg
>
> This is quite a statement he's made here.
>
> I've posted it at http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MYLOW:Forum
>
> Sterling
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: erickrieg@...
> To: sterlingda@...
> Cc: free_energy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Criteria for claiming "first independent replication of Mylow's all-magnet motor"
>
>
> Sterling,
>
> At this point, he shouldn't have to do a damn thing - if the plans are out, it can be easily and ubiquitously replicated. Then people of science and engineering could really understand it, exploit the principal, scale it up, improve efficiency and mass produce it cheaply and distribute it widely. The kind of genius's who do those more common steps are quite different people than the inventors. If this is made to really work, I'll plan on splitting my prize, 5K for the first person to show me it (with say around a Kw of output - I'll negotiate less if we can keep hidden areas way down) and 5K to Mylow or the charity of his choice if getting a lot of money would upset him. That said, I'm more inclined to believe he has faked things so far and is way over his head and wants to go off and hide. But if it is real, it is a golden new age for mankind and we in the civilized progressive world no longer need to go broke paying trillions to those who hate us for poison that kills us and our planet. If I really see it working in a way I can verify no tricks, I can easily get my Dateline or 20/20 or USA Today contacts to front page this in short order. Let me know when someone is really willing to openly show a self runner to skeptics and I can line up a few credible people to take a look - if they say yes, I'll fly out and see for myself. At that point, I would go on a crusade to get the mainstream crowd to buy in. I just need real proof to know it's not just the 100th OU scam out there.
>
> Eric Krieg (may be posted anywhere)
>
>
> May 15, 2009 02:45:53 AM, sterlingda@... wrote:
>
> Once the replicators get going, they can jump on these kinds of things easily. Mylow is not a scientist, so things like this go against his nature. He's and intuitive artist inventor, and skepticism is like poison to his heart. Just because others have been frauds doesn't mean he is. What's in it for him? All he's gotten so far is a lot more grief than he would have ever imagined would be possible.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: eric krieg
> To: Sterling D. Allan
> Cc: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [mylow_magmo] Criteria for claiming "first independent replication of Mylow's all-magnet motor"
>
>
> Sterling,
>
> I would love to go from leading critic to leading supporter of just one of these kinds of claims. Given the long history of fraud and lunacy with claims like this, I'm glad we agree that more validation is necessary. I've never been convinced by offers of video's and warning flags go up over the avoidance of having independent people see it first hand. The lack of replication makes me feel uneasy - so does the simplicity of it: something that simple should have been tried many times by the thousands of tinkerers who each labor over dozens of years.
> While he is only showing video's, I recommend a few easy things that could assuage some skepticism:
>
>
> a.. have a hanging mobile of light colored yarn right near by to rule out and off camera air blast
> b.. if you do it near a wall, hang some pieces of ferrous metal to rule out a hidden electro magnet
> c.. take it apart at the end of the video - particularly the shaft and bearings that support it and could easily secret a motor
> d.. try to use a more transparent base - the less potential hiding places, the better
> e.. tell me the name of the nearest city and allow me to line up a credible independent observer
>
> If people believe there are MIBs trying to stop it, just send me the plans and I will post them so wide on the internet that the poor MIB's would have to be reassigned to UFO coverup or something else.
>
> best wishes,
> Eric Krieg
>
>
> Sterling D. Allan wrote:
> I agree that third party validation by a qualified person should be part of the criteria for staking a claim in the "first independent replication of Mylow's all-magnet motor". However, I don't think it should be a pre-requisite to making the announcement. It should only be a requirement for securing the honor.
>
>
>
> A fun fourth step would be to invite Eric Krieg over to see it and claim his $10,000 prize. Mylow wouldn't be interested in that, as he's not motivated by money. If anything, it's a put off to him when people try to dangle it in front of him as if it would be enticing to him.
>
>
>
> It would be appropriate, in keeping with the "caveat" of this open source project (put forth by myself, not Mylow) for at least 3% of that award to come as a royalty to the project.
>
>
>
> Sterling
>
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com <mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
From: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com <mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [mylow_magmo] New file uploaded to mylow_magmo To: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 6:37 PM
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the mylow_magmo
group.
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Description : Howard Johnson Train
A compass needle is magnetized.It is marked so that the south pole of the needle points to the north pole of the earth.If the compass indicates north on a magnet then it is the north end of the magnet. I also think Mylow may have been mistaken about the polarity and maybe that is why we are having a hard time with the replications.
If the size is not more than 2" smaller than Mylows I am very interested in purchasing one.
Please let me know if it is possible.
Fausto.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@...> To: "mylow magmo" <mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:36:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [mylow_magmo] rotor-stator assemblies

There are three machine shops working on preparing rotor-stator assemblies. Our machinist, Doug Furr, also will have a couple of spare aluminum discs after this weekend, but as they are left-overs from making two proper sized discs (one for him and one for me to play with), they'll be a little smaller.
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Very straight sheet of 3/16" aluminum, naturalized (I can't remember the proper term that means it has been sitting for a long time and is settled into its final configuration). I saw it myself. He's going to laser cut it so as to not stress it.
Has anyone found a good place to buy the aluminum disk closest to the spec? I remember someone mention the cake holder but has it a  good spinning or too much friction?
I just ordered the magnets. I only need the plate now.
Will you be timing the spin down with the rotor magnets on, without the stator magnets, so that you can give a good comparison between with stator and without stator magnets. I'm sure the air resistance would lower the spin down time, however the rotational inertia of the rotor magnets may counteract this somewhat. I'm not sure about the impact of the weight of the rotor magnets on the bearings if they are tight tolerance, durable bearings. It the rotor wheel is balanced with equal amounts of magnets, I'm sure this means less friction on the bearings too.
Brian
From: queuecontinuum <im4ou2day@...> To: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:34:47 PM Subject: [mylow_magmo] Re: not fair
--- In mylow_magmo@ yahoogroups. com, "Sean" <clanzer@... > wrote:
>
> >
> > We are doing the best we can over here, and we need your input and guidance so we can help you make a success of this.
> >
Hi Sean
Got my magnets today too . . i have the exact same ones as Mylow.
My new bearings and disk are up to par with Bobs for spin downs -
200 to 0 RPM - 21 minutes with no magnets on.
i plan to setup my disk with his 6 rotor config tonight to see what it does ..
This is an intriguing idea for replication, but I do not believe that it will work due to the differences in magnets. If we have 100% uniformity in our magnets, then yes, it would work--but we don't. As Mylow has indicated you have to do this by "feel" and finely hand tune that back-and-forth cogging motion Mylow has shown. This is extremely high precision work and cannot be done by reading a blue print.
James
--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "mart85" <halemart@...> wrote: > > Not sure if someone has thought of this or not... > > What if we were to take a picture of the present working setup, and then make a template of the exact position of the magnets. Then you could email this as a pdf or add it to the plans. > > You would print off a page on your laser printer of the exact position of the magnets on the plate, then cut out the holes. then position this on the plate to have a setup of exact duplicate of mylows. > > > I have a theory that the reason Mylow's works and others does not is he adds a single magnet at a time, and then tests to see if that works ( tests how it interacts with the stator magnet(s). If so he moves on, if not he then keeps adjusting it till it does work. Thus when he has completed the setup all have been tested to work. Just like when adding instruments to a band you make sure the harmony of the instrument blends with the others. > > I really enjoyed the video that was shown by Rick and John of the Howard Johnson setup. Thanks for posting that. > > I look forward to when Sterling has a working model he can take to shows with him. > > Mart >
Wow, I was sitting here thinking about the N/S pole orientation right now too as getting ready to mount stuff!. Best of my knowledge, the ACTUAL pole of the earth in the northern hemisphere that we call the N pole is really a MAGNETIC South pole. So the marked needle in a compass that points to "North" is actually a NORTH Magnetized needle that points towards the "SOUTH magnetic pole" located at the "top" of the planet................Harrrrrrrrr Ossie in AU will argue me on what is UP................Therefore, the poles are correctly identified in video 2002.
But what I see in Video 2002 and Video 2007 is NOT what is happening in the motor. I see a repulsion on entering and a larger repulsion on exiting and with a N multi pole platter, this is
not what would happen with the S/N S/N orientation in 2002. The south would suck in or not cog, and of course the ending N would kick out but this does not explain the initial cogging or repulsion on entering as shown around 1 min into 2007..........I do get confused in my old age but I can't explain what I see.
Also standard motor magnets when you "disassemble" a small 3 pole DC motor are normally orientated where one is a magnetic S on the inside over 160 degrees or so and the other is a magnetic N on the inside. Actually there is a N on the inside and a S on the outside of one set or 4 poles at the end, and then on the other one, there is a S on the inside and a N on the outside for a total of 8 poles if that type of magnet is used without "remagnatization"in a staggered setup.
I am still NOT absolutely sure what he really has..........
Help?
Ben Thomas
From: Andy Graham <andydidge@...> To: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:46:15 PM Subject: [mylow_magmo] Re: what is "N"?
Wow...I was just about to post the same question:
What is the sure-fire way to determine the north pole of a magnet??
"the reason Mylow's works and others does not is he adds a single magnet at a time, and then tests to see if that works ( tests how it interacts with the stator magnet(s)"
I completely agree with this statment; and as I'm assuming, so does Mylow.
Even if you buy the same exact magnets, they WILL have different field strengths (small variations ofcourse) than the ones Mylow is using.
Getting your own personal arrangement to match Mylow's with precision may not be what you need to do.
We need to see more of what Mylow is doing as he determines where to put each magnet on the rotor.
Mylow, I know we have troubled you and your family enough. Thanks for all the time we are taking from your family to see this through.
-- James
From: mart85 <halemart@...> To: mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 10:29:19 AM Subject: [mylow_magmo] Just an idea..
Not sure if someone has thought of this or not...
What if we were to take a picture of the present working setup, and then make a template of the exact position of the magnets. Then you could email this as a pdf or add it to the plans.
You would print off a page on your laser printer of the exact position of the magnets on the plate, then cut out the holes. then position this on the plate to have a setup of exact duplicate of mylows.
I have a theory that the reason Mylow's works and others does not is he adds a single magnet at a time, and then tests to see if that works ( tests how it interacts with the stator magnet(s). If so he moves on, if not he then keeps adjusting it till it does work. Thus when he has completed the setup all have been tested to work. Just like when adding instruments to a band you make sure the harmony of the instrument blends with the others.
I really enjoyed the video that was shown by Rick and
John of the Howard Johnson setup. Thanks for posting that.
I look forward to when Sterling has a working model he can take to shows with him.
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