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47857 Avocet
madl74 Offline Send Email
May 27, 2012
5:13 pm
... Robin, I like the analogy of a Steinway. We know what it sounds like to our ears, but you don't get this sound by pointing a stereo mic at it any more than...
47858 hartogj Offline Send Email May 27, 2012
6:59 pm
It is probably fair to say that the vast majority of nature recording artists enjoy finer tools, better listening environments and other improvements as they...
47859 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
May 27, 2012
7:35 pm
& perhaps more importantly a steinway sounds like a steinway but Gould on a steinway sounds like no one else on a steinway. The human element proves the...
47860 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
May 27, 2012
7:40 pm
I don't know John. For many, myself included, the act of listening more closely to the world refocuses the aspects that cannot be recorded or that are...
47861 hartogj Offline Send Email May 27, 2012
8:49 pm
Hi Jez, Listening is requisite in this field. John Hartog rockscallop.org...
47863 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
May 27, 2012
10:32 pm
not sure how you're saying this John....
47864 hartogj Offline Send Email May 27, 2012
10:38 pm
The definition of "mixing" was confusing from the beginning of this muddy thread. Is mixing limited to only the combining of separate sounds or tracks, or is...
47865 hartogj Offline Send Email May 27, 2012
11:44 pm
Jez, you said, "unless you're ears are open & you're really listening." You seemed to be suggesting only those who listen carefully may appreciate upgrades to...
47866 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
9:12 am
what about the opinions of 'experts' that differ from that ? For me this is the point - that it is the material that matters & like it or not the music / sound...
47867 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
9:28 am
Hi John, ok - I understand now. What i'll say is that parts of this conversation were about other areas of field recording (sound art for example). I have no...
47868 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
10:19 am
a short extract from a long (& somewhat wet) dawn chorus recorded in Sweden, May 2012 with the Sanken CUW-180 mic into SD7 series recorder. No processing. ...
47869 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
10:20 am
a short extract from a long (& somewhat wet) dawn chorus recorded in Sweden, May 2012 with the Sanken CUW-180 mic into SD7 series recorder. No processing. ...
47870 hartogj Offline Send Email May 28, 2012
4:37 pm
Hi Jez, Your point of view is clearer to me now. When it comes to creative processes there are infinite possibilities. I would say any sound art requires...
47871 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
8:48 pm
yes - that is part of my point indeed. sadly, there is a lot of 'sound art' that falls short of having been created through listening in a meaningful way. This...
47872 freitojos Offline Send Email May 28, 2012
9:18 pm
Hello, Here is one small sample of a recording with a sound that I d'ont know if it is one aquatic bird or a frog, can anione help me. ...
47873 Peter Shute
pshute2 Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
9:55 pm
"This is a problem with all kinds of roots ..." What do you mean by "roots", Jez? Peter Shute From: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com...
47874 Bernie Krause
bigchirp1 Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
10:04 pm
Not sure if the late John Cage carries any weight in this forum. But, for what it's worth (I think it's been posted before), here's his take on the matter...
47875 Elias Elias
eliasaristid... Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
10:39 pm
Hi José, None of the animals sound familiar to me. But it is a very intriguing soundscape. Where was the recording made? Flock on! Elias/Ηλίας Arcata...
47876 Bernie Krause
bigchirp1 Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
10:55 pm
Even though I worked w/ Cage at times, having written pieces and performed with his group (a piece I wrote with percussionist George Marsh called "Biophony IV"...
47877 Avocet
madl74 Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
10:58 pm
... Bernie, Agreed. Perhaps I may go one step further and say there is no such thing as a recorded sound. What we hear is an illusion, especially with stereo,...
47878 Bernie Krause
bigchirp1 Offline Send Email
May 28, 2012
11:09 pm
Yup. There's not a professional recordist that I know who would disagree with that, David. Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now sound editor and Academy Award winner)...
47879 Mark
seoulgypsy Offline Send Email
1:35 am
For me there are at times a transcendent element when either by treatment or developing contextual intention whereby a recordist through the act of mixing...
47880 Bernie Krause
bigchirp1 Offline Send Email
2:24 am
And remember, Mark, natural soundscapes – biophonies – are in a constant state of transition with no "perfect" assertion ever, no matter where or when...
47881 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
7:36 am
referring to that the issues in certain respects when it comes to 'sound art' have various sources: going right back to when 'music' became separated from the...
47882 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
7:51 am
It is often hard on forums to fully grasp what is implied by what is written & so, hoping i've not misunderstood the intent: when it comes to field recordings...
47883 Jez
tempjez Offline Send Email
7:56 am
'I'm afraid that I tend to describe some "manufactured" music ... sadly, I don't even think its a lack of artistic content - its that what counts as 'artistic'...
47884 freitojos Offline Send Email 8:36 am
Elias, This is a recording in Minas de Lousal near Grândola Portugal in the lagoon of tapada. The most known is Luscilia Megahrincos nightingale but the other...
47885 Tero Linjama
jawetus2000 Offline Send Email
9:09 am
Hi, Kro-sound is a Little Bittern (Ixobrychos minutus). Tero Linjama Finland 2012/5/29 freitojos <josefreitas81@...> ... [Non-text portions of this...
47886 freitojos Offline Send Email 9:21 am
Elias and Tero, Here is the localization in google maps a new feature to me, is one advantage of speaking here in the naturerecordists we learn new...
47887 cheryl.tipp Offline Send Email 9:54 am
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