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#48773 From: "John Crockett" <jladd@...>
Date: Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: Bay of Fundy
naturalconte...
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Or a calm, clear night in this case. I'm glad you enjoyed it. What this
recording fails to convey is the mind-altering sense of spaciousness which is
for me one of the Bay's most remarkable features. That's what I am hoping to do
with my homemade SASS.

John

--- In naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com, Neville Recording <songbird@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John
> Thank you so much for posting your Greater Shearwaters from the Bay of
> Fundy. You certainly brought back some happy memories for me and the
> sounds were very clear.  You obviously picked a calm clear day for such
> a good recording. I spent 16 weeks on he east coast in 2010 and 2011,
> including two weeks on Grand Manan in the middle of the Bay of Fundy.
> My efforts will appear in" Bird Songs of Eastern Canada" in about 6
> weeks time.
> John Neville
> Neville Recording
> Salt Spring Island BC
>

#48774 From: Santiago Imberti <santiagoimberti@...>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:18 pm
Subject: a bit of an odd request...
santiagoimberti
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Hi All,



Sorry for the slight off topic but there are many tech people here and I was
hoping someone could point me in the right direction...
  I friend of mine is suffering from ME/CFS and as a result of that
she can’t even be exposed to the tiny radiation generated from most
electronical equipment. One of the things she misses the most living in this
18th
century style of life; is listening to music as the loudspeakers are really bad
to her. However, she can use a modified phone that carries the sound by pipes
conducting air pulses. Does any one out there perhaps know any way of
developing something similar to replace the loudspeakers and be able to listen
to music?



Headphones
are out of the question...



Any help is
welcomed, many thanks! you can answer me privately to
santiagoimberti@...
Cheers,
Santiago Imberti

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#48775 From: "rock_scallop" <john_hartog@...>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: a bit of an odd request...
rock_scallop
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An antique acoustic phonograph (hand-wound, spring-powered)?

John Hartog
rockscallop.org


--- In naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com, Santiago Imberti <santiagoimberti@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Sorry for the slight off topic but there are many tech people here and I was
hoping someone could point me in the right direction...
>  I friend of mine is suffering from ME/CFS and as a result of that
> she can't even be exposed to the tiny radiation generated from most
> electronical equipment. One of the things she misses the most living in this
18th
> century style of life; is listening to music as the loudspeakers are really
bad
> to her. However, she can use a modified phone that carries the sound by pipes
> conducting air pulses. Does any one out there perhaps know any way of
> developing something similar to replace the loudspeakers and be able to listen
> to music?
>
>
>
> Headphones
> are out of the question...
>
>
>
> Any help is
> welcomed, many thanks! you can answer me privately to santiagoimberti@...
> Cheers,
> Santiago Imberti
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#48776 From: Mike Feldman <mike_feldman@...>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...
gidney_n_cloyd
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On 28 Jul, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Santiago Imberti wrote:

> Does any one out there perhaps know any way of developing something
> similar to replace the loudspeakers and be able to listen to music?

Long horns, plus maybe metal fiber clothing?

-- Mike

#48777 From: Peter Shute <pshute@...>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...
pshute2
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Surely simply having them a long way away would be good enough to reduce the EMF
to background levels. How long are the pipes for the phone? And how is she going
to turn it on and off?

You could of course play music through the phone.

Are you able to provide some links to this aspect of the condition? I'm
sceptical.

Peter Shute


--------------------------
Sent using BlackBerry

----- Original Message -----
From: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com <naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com>
To: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com <naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun Jul 29 03:18:04 2012
Subject: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...


Hi All,



Sorry for the slight off topic but there are many tech people here and I was
hoping someone could point me in the right direction...
  I friend of mine is suffering from ME/CFS and as a result of that
she can’t even be exposed to the tiny radiation generated from most
electronical equipment. One of the things she misses the most living in this
18th
century style of life; is listening to music as the loudspeakers are really bad
to her. However, she can use a modified phone that carries the sound by pipes
conducting air pulses. Does any one out there perhaps know any way of
developing something similar to replace the loudspeakers and be able to listen
to music?



Headphones
are out of the question...



Any help is
welcomed, many thanks! you can answer me privately to
santiagoimberti@...
Cheers,
Santiago Imberti

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.

Yahoo! Groups Links

#48778 From: "Avocet" <brini@...>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...
madl74
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Santiago,

Years ago I knew someone who was highly sensitive so I can sympathise.
I have two suggestions to try but I can't say either will work. It is
possible that high frequenies may trigger it as well as electronic
radiation.

Is it possible to try a cover like a blanket over the speakers to cut
the higher frequencies and/or grounded metal screens in front of the
speakers to baffle off any radiation. I don't know if you have fire
guards where you are, but they are made of fine metal mesh and look
OK.

David

David Brinicombe
North Devon, UK
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce

#48779 From: Peter Shute <pshute@...>
Date: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:00 am
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...
pshute2
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I meant to add that although I'm sceptical, I'm not discounting it. I know CFS
sufferers are subjected to a lot of unwarranted scepticism.

Peter Shute


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________________________________
From: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com
To: 'naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Sun Jul 29 05:39:47 2012
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...



Surely simply having them a long way away would be good enough to reduce the EMF
to background levels. How long are the pipes for the phone? And how is she going
to turn it on and off?

You could of course play music through the phone.

Are you able to provide some links to this aspect of the condition? I'm
sceptical.

Peter Shute


--------------------------
Sent using BlackBerry

----- Original Message -----
From:
naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com<mailto:naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
<naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com<mailto:naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>>
To: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com<mailto:naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
<naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com<mailto:naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Sun Jul 29 03:18:04 2012
Subject: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...


Hi All,



Sorry for the slight off topic but there are many tech people here and I was
hoping someone could point me in the right direction...
I friend of mine is suffering from ME/CFS and as a result of that
she can’t even be exposed to the tiny radiation generated from most
electronical equipment. One of the things she misses the most living in this
18th
century style of life; is listening to music as the loudspeakers are really bad
to her. However, she can use a modified phone that carries the sound by pipes
conducting air pulses. Does any one out there perhaps know any way of
developing something similar to replace the loudspeakers and be able to listen
to music?



Headphones
are out of the question...



Any help is
welcomed, many thanks! you can answer me privately to
santiagoimberti@...<mailto:santiagoimberti%40hotmail.com>
Cheers,
Santiago Imberti

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.

Yahoo! Groups Links







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#48780 From: Gregory O'Drobinak <gmodrobinak@...>
Date: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:58 am
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...
gmo_dunes2
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Is it possible for her to use magnetically shielded speakers? I guess I don't
quite understand the implications of her disease.


In our 'contemporary' world,  you do indeed need an electromagnetic transducer
of some sort to move the air in order to hear the sound.

So, no matter how you slice it, you need some electronics somewhere. And a
source of recorded sound or a radio receiver.


I know that they make special air-driven headsets for patients in MRI machines
so that they can listen to music. That would be fine, but again there is an
electromagnetic transducer located remotely to produce the driven air.


Perhaps the ideal solution is an old Victrola that is hand cranked. However, I
don't know if it could be modified to play modern LPs.

But the Victrola is  a completely mechanical device, no electronics.

Maybe you can be more detailed about what exactly she can be exposed to and how
far away.

Is there any electricity in her house, i.e., mains wiring of 110 or 220 VAC?

Best regards,

Greg




________________________________
From: Santiago Imberti <santiagoimberti@...>
To: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, July 28, 2012 12:18:07 PM
Subject: [Nature Recordists] a bit of an odd request...


Hi All,



Sorry for the slight off topic but there are many tech people here and I was
hoping someone could point me in the right direction...
I friend of mine is suffering from ME/CFS and as a result of that
she can’t even be exposed to the tiny radiation generated from most
electronical equipment. One of the things she misses the most living in this
18th
century style of life; is listening to music as the loudspeakers are really bad
to her. However, she can use a modified phone that carries the sound by pipes
conducting air pulses. Does any one out there perhaps know any way of
developing something similar to replace the loudspeakers and be able to listen
to music?



Headphones
are out of the question...



Any help is
welcomed, many thanks! you can answer me privately to
santiagoimberti@...

Cheers,
Santiago Imberti

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.

Yahoo! Groups Links



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#48781 From: "mipartitus" <mipartitus@...>
Date: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:19 am
Subject: NYT op-ed on soundscape / habitat damage
mipartitus
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Bernie Krause's op-ed has been published.

Here is the link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/listen-to-the-soundscape.html?r\
ef=opinion

Congratulations, Bernie!

Best, Gabriel

#48782 From: Santiago Imberti <santiagoimberti@...>
Date: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:40 am
Subject: RE: a bit of an odd request...
santiagoimberti
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Hi All,
Thanks for your suggestions and ideas.
Scepticism is indeed one of the main things they have to deal with. But I bet
any sceptic that gets to spend a few days with a ME pacient will soon cast those
doubts away. My friend history and links to more info on the disease can be
found in
http://www.cfids.org/about/catalyst-anne.asp
I'll go back to her with your suggestions and ideas to see how we can go from
there. But I having a acouple of questions/comments on your answers:

>Long horns, plus maybe
metal fiber clothing?what exactly are these? do you have any link to it?



>Maybe you can be more detailed about what exactly
she can be exposed to and how far away.


>Is there any
electricity in her house, i.e., mains wiring of 110 or 220 VAC?

She lives in Stockholm, Sweden so yes to electricity 220. She can be exposed to
some of the normal electrical things but for very shorts periods of time. If the
exposure is too long she suffers and it is detrimental to its health (hence my
initial quest for a way for her to listen to music for more than a few minutes a
day). So everything is turned off at the house  most of the day.
In the case of the phone, the signal goes to a transformer for the air pipes
that are about 1.5 meters long. Since the electricity on the phone is very low
that seems to work all right.
Ok, that is for now, many thanks to all and I'll be glad to receive more coments
or ideas.
Santiago

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#48783 From: Bernie Krause <chirp@...>
Date: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] NYT op-ed on soundscape / habitat damage
bigchirp1
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Thanks, Gabriel. It's great to see the community soundscape work
finally getting some serious traction in credible places.

Bernie


On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:19 PM, mipartitus wrote:

> Bernie Krause's op-ed has been published.
>
> Here is the link:
>
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/listen-to-the-soundscape.html?r\
ef=opinion
>
> Congratulations, Bernie!
>
> Best, Gabriel
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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#48784 From: Bernie Krause <chirp@...>
Date: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:25 pm
Subject: Lincoln Center program NYC 12 August
bigchirp1
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For those in the NYC area on Sunday, August 12th, I've been invited to
speak as part of a Lincoln Center panel on the subject of Music of the
Birds (which, of course, is not where we got our music). So I intend
to make it a lively discussion since most on the panel endorse older
models.

http://mostlymozart.org/index.php/2012-music-of-birds-aug-12

Bernie

Wild Sanctuary
POB 536
Glen Ellen, CA 95442
707-996-6677
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SKYPE: biophony
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#48785 From: Mike Feldman <mike_feldman@...>
Date: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] RE: a bit of an odd request...
gidney_n_cloyd
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On 29 Jul, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Santiago Imberti wrote:

> > Long horns, plus maybe metal fiber clothing?
> what exactly are these? do you have any link to it?

Long horns so she's far away from the voice coils.
Down about the middle of this page:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2844310-biggest-
speaker-ever

Can't find original of this:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?
q=tbn:ANd9GcSX_IJgNlpSPfBzdLugG1L6RP-3YK1nhuvE_vLyiVzyK5EEad3T9r6toYQ

As far as the serious part of my reply, there are fabrics made
for electromagnet shielding, for example by these guys:

http://www.tibtech.com/index.php

-- Mike

#48786 From: Peter Shute <pshute@...>
Date: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:16 pm
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] RE: a bit of an odd request...
pshute2
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If it's ok for a phone to be 1.5m away, surely she can tolerate speakers, say,
3m away? I thought phones operated on about 50V, so not that low.

Does she have any way of measuring EMF levels? If not then I think getting a
meter might be the best way to proceed. Guessing what levels there might be
based on one's perception of how much power a device uses is probably not going
to lead to the most efficient solutions.

Peter Shute

>-----Original Message-----
>From: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Santiago Imberti
>Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2012 9:40 PM
>To: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Nature Recordists] RE: a bit of an odd request...

>In the case of the phone, the signal goes to a transformer for the air
>pipes that are about 1.5 meters long. Since the electricity on the phone
>is very low that seems to work all right.

#48787 From: Santiago Imberti <santiagoimberti@...>
Date: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:51 am
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] RE: a bit of an odd request...
santiagoimberti
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Thanks Peter, I will ask her and come back to you.
Santiago

To: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com
From: pshute@...
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:16:51 +1000
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] RE: a bit of an odd request...


























       If it's ok for a phone to be 1.5m away, surely she can tolerate speakers,
say, 3m away? I thought phones operated on about 50V, so not that low.



Does she have any way of measuring EMF levels? If not then I think getting a
meter might be the best way to proceed. Guessing what levels there might be
based on one's perception of how much power a device uses is probably not going
to lead to the most efficient solutions.



Peter Shute



>-----Original Message-----

>From: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com

>[mailto:naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Santiago Imberti

>Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2012 9:40 PM

>To: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: [Nature Recordists] RE: a bit of an odd request...



>In the case of the phone, the signal goes to a transformer for the air

>pipes that are about 1.5 meters long. Since the electricity on the phone

>is very low that seems to work all right.
















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#48788 From: Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@...>
Date: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:02 am
Subject: The chicks of the Arctic Tern
arnthor.helgason@...
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Dear all.

As some of you might know the natural circumstances for some seabirds have
been disasterous in the North-Atlantic ocean for some years. The Arctic Ten
is one of those speeces suffering from the global changes.

In big parts of Iceland hardly any Tern-chicks have been seen since 2004.
Therefor I and my wife were delighted when we saw some chicks of among the
Terns this evening.

Please feel free to enjoy the recording at
http://hljod.blog.is

As Olympus and other pocket-recorders have been discussed on this list
recently I would like t draw your attention to the LS-11. In this recording
I covered the mics with a dead chicken from Røde and used the low-cut filter
due to the wind.

Best wishes,

Arnthor Helgason
http://hljod.blog.is




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#48789 From: M1kesa <m1kesa@...>
Date: Wed Aug 1, 2012 3:16 am
Subject: Bear Trap Meadows
mkmkmksasasa
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Hey everybody,

Here is a recording of Bear Trap Meadows made during the Nature Sounds Society
workshop.

http://soundcloud.com/michael-salo/bear-trap-meadows

Mike Salo


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#48790 From: Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@...>
Date: Wed Aug 1, 2012 1:37 pm
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Bear Trap Meadows
arnthor.helgason@...
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Well done. I have listened to some of your recordings. which mics and
recorders are you using?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
http://hljod.blog.is



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#48791 From: "jrain_47" <cramp@...>
Date: Thu Aug 2, 2012 10:55 am
Subject: Re: Lincoln Center program NYC 12 August
jrain_47
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Bernie
Is there any chance of a podcast version of the program?
Joel Ryan
STEIM / Institute of Sonology

--- In naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com, Bernie Krause <chirp@...> wrote:
>
> For those in the NYC area on Sunday, August 12th, I've been invited to
> speak as part of a Lincoln Center panel on the subject of Music of the
> Birds (which, of course, is not where we got our music). So I intend
> to make it a lively discussion since most on the panel endorse older
> models.
>
> http://mostlymozart.org/index.php/2012-music-of-birds-aug-12
>
> Bernie
>
> Wild Sanctuary
> POB 536
> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> 707-996-6677
> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> chirp@...
> Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com
> SKYPE: biophony
> FaceBook:
> http://www.facebook.com/TheGreatAnimalOrchestra
> http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor
> Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/berniekrause
> YouTube:
> https://www.youtube.com/BernieKrauseTV
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#48792 From: Bernie Krause <chirp@...>
Date: Thu Aug 2, 2012 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Lincoln Center program NYC 12 August
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Have no idea, Joel. Here's the person to check with: Kate Monaghan
kmonaghan@...

Bernie

On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:55 AM, jrain_47 wrote:

> Bernie
> Is there any chance of a podcast version of the program?
> Joel Ryan
> STEIM / Institute of Sonology
>
> --- In naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com, Bernie Krause <chirp@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> For those in the NYC area on Sunday, August 12th, I've been invited
>> to
>> speak as part of a Lincoln Center panel on the subject of Music of
>> the
>> Birds (which, of course, is not where we got our music). So I intend
>> to make it a lively discussion since most on the panel endorse older
>> models.
>>
>> http://mostlymozart.org/index.php/2012-music-of-birds-aug-12
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>> Wild Sanctuary
>> POB 536
>> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
>> 707-996-6677
>> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
>> chirp@...
>> Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com
>> SKYPE: biophony
>> FaceBook:
>> http://www.facebook.com/TheGreatAnimalOrchestra
>> http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor
>> Twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/berniekrause
>> YouTube:
>> https://www.youtube.com/BernieKrauseTV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Wild Sanctuary
POB 536
Glen Ellen, CA 95442
707-996-6677
http://www.wildsanctuary.com
chirp@...
Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com
SKYPE: biophony
FaceBook:
http://www.facebook.com/TheGreatAnimalOrchestra
http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor
Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/berniekrause
YouTube:
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#48793 From: "DIANE" <cbbmo@...>
Date: Thu Aug 2, 2012 3:33 pm
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Lincoln Center program NYC 12 August
cbbmo@flash.net
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Yes, I would like to know that as well...Joel would you post that info
when you find out?
Thanks,
Diane
--- In naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com, Bernie Krause <chirp@...>
wrote:
>
> Have no idea, Joel. Here's the person to check with: Kate Monaghan
kmonaghan@...
>
> Bernie
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:55 AM, jrain_47 wrote:
>
> > Bernie
> > Is there any chance of a podcast version of the program?
> > Joel Ryan
> > STEIM / Institute of Sonology
> >
> > --- In naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com, Bernie Krause chirp@
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> For those in the NYC area on Sunday, August 12th, I've been invited
> >> to
> >> speak as part of a Lincoln Center panel on the subject of Music of
> >> the
> >> Birds (which, of course, is not where we got our music). So I
intend
> >> to make it a lively discussion since most on the panel endorse
older
> >> models.
> >>
> >> http://mostlymozart.org/index.php/2012-music-of-birds-aug-12
> >>
> >> Bernie
> >>
> >> Wild Sanctuary
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#48794 From: M1kesa <m1kesa@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 6:05 am
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Bear Trap Meadows
mkmkmksasasa
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Thanks for listening.

Mostly, I use a Rode NT4 into a Sony MZ-RH10 mini disk recorder using the Hi-SP
compression.
I high attenuate frequencies lower than about 200Hz and boost the higher
frequencies starting around 2kHz.

Best regards,
Mike Salo



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To: naturerecordists <naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 6:37 am
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Bear Trap Meadows


Well done. I have listened to some of your recordings. which mics and
ecorders are you using?

est regards,

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#48795 From: "Hans Christian" <hanskock@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 1:49 pm
Subject: Talking to mosquitoes
hanskock
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Hi all

Recently I was out in the Nationalpark Thy in Northern Denmark, to record
ambiences just after sunset, when I came across an extremely weak humming-sound.
Barely audible without the recorder gain at max. It turned out to be hundreds of
mosquitoes inside a small forest. I started recording, and then when I made the
announcement into the mic, I noticed the mosquito-hum raising in pitch for a
short moment. I made different experiments, and it seemed they only reacted to
my voice each time, and not any other sounds I made.

Has anyone come across that phenomenon? Is it a known fact that mosquitos can
"hear" humans, and distinguish them from other sounds? I've never heard of that.

I put up the recording on SoundCloud, but it probably requires some good
headphones to hear the phenomenon:

http://snd.sc/NqgQhY

(I speak to the mosquitoes in danish, but don't bother. I'm not saying anything
very intelligent anyway. After all, they are only mosquitoes...)


Hans Kock

#48796 From: Mitch Hill <fmhill@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Talking to mosquitoes
wa1ykn
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On 8/3/2012 9:49 AM, Hans Christian wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Recently I was out in the Nationalpark Thy in Northern Denmark, to record
ambiences just after sunset, when I came across an extremely weak humming-sound.
Barely audible without the recorder gain at max. It turned out to be hundreds of
mosquitoes inside a small forest. I started recording, and then when I made the
announcement into the mic, I noticed the mosquito-hum raising in pitch for a
short moment. I made different experiments, and it seemed they only reacted to
my voice each time, and not any other sounds I made.
>
> Has anyone come across that phenomenon? Is it a known fact that mosquitos can
"hear" humans, and distinguish them from other sounds? I've never heard of that.
>
> I put up the recording on SoundCloud, but it probably requires some good
headphones to hear the phenomenon:
>
> http://snd.sc/NqgQhY
>
> (I speak to the mosquitoes in danish, but don't bother. I'm not saying
anything very intelligent anyway. After all, they are only mosquitoes...)
>

I'm no authority on mosquitoes however I remember reading once that
mosquitoes are attracted to people (and other animals) by the carbon
dioxide in the breath that is exhaled...  It was probably your breath
when you speak that excites them...

--
--
Mitch Hill

(Sent from HP DV6T)

#48797 From: Ray Mansell <ray.mansell@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Talking to mosquitoes
BCTess
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That is absolutely fascinating, and I could hear the effect very well, even
through simple computer speakers.

Perhaps the mosquitoes are attuned to the human voice since it implies a
source of food (i.e. our blood)? Whatever the cause, it is very interesting
- thank you for posting it!

Ray

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Hans Christian <hanskock@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Recently I was out in the Nationalpark Thy in Northern Denmark, to record
> ambiences just after sunset, when I came across an extremely weak
> humming-sound. Barely audible without the recorder gain at max. It turned
> out to be hundreds of mosquitoes inside a small forest. I started
> recording, and then when I made the announcement into the mic, I noticed
> the mosquito-hum raising in pitch for a short moment. I made different
> experiments, and it seemed they only reacted to my voice each time, and not
> any other sounds I made.
>
> Has anyone come across that phenomenon? Is it a known fact that mosquitos
> can "hear" humans, and distinguish them from other sounds? I've never heard
> of that.
>
> I put up the recording on SoundCloud, but it probably requires some good
> headphones to hear the phenomenon:
>
> http://snd.sc/NqgQhY
>
> (I speak to the mosquitoes in danish, but don't bother. I'm not saying
> anything very intelligent anyway. After all, they are only mosquitoes...)
>
> Hans Kock
>
>
>


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#48798 From: Ray Mansell <ray.mansell@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Talking to mosquitoes
BCTess
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I've heard the same thing... but not all of the sounds he made had the same
effect. And besides, I suspect (but of course don't know for sure) that he
was not near enough to them for his breath to have such an immediate effect.

And I presume he was still breathing, even while not talking... :-)

Ray

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Mitch Hill <fmhill@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> I'm no authority on mosquitoes however I remember reading once that
> mosquitoes are attracted to people (and other animals) by the carbon
> dioxide in the breath that is exhaled... It was probably your breath
> when you speak that excites them...
>
> --
> --
> Mitch Hill
>
>


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#48799 From: "rock_scallop" <john_hartog@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Talking to mosquitoes
rock_scallop
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That is interesting, Hans. Were you and the mics both stationary during the
test? - just to rule out any relational effects.

John Hartog
rockscallop.org

--- In naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Christian" <hanskock@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Recently I was out in the Nationalpark Thy in Northern Denmark, to record
ambiences just after sunset, when I came across an extremely weak humming-sound.
Barely audible without the recorder gain at max. It turned out to be hundreds of
mosquitoes inside a small forest. I started recording, and then when I made the
announcement into the mic, I noticed the mosquito-hum raising in pitch for a
short moment. I made different experiments, and it seemed they only reacted to
my voice each time, and not any other sounds I made.
>
> Has anyone come across that phenomenon? Is it a known fact that mosquitos can
"hear" humans, and distinguish them from other sounds? I've never heard of that.
>
> I put up the recording on SoundCloud, but it probably requires some good
headphones to hear the phenomenon:
>
> http://snd.sc/NqgQhY
>
> (I speak to the mosquitoes in danish, but don't bother. I'm not saying
anything very intelligent anyway. After all, they are only mosquitoes...)
>
>
> Hans Kock
>

#48800 From: Ray Mansell <ray.mansell@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Talking to mosquitoes
BCTess
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I did a little more listening and some Googling.

Google found this <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1088611/>,
which includes a link to an interesting paper (Active auditory mechanics in
mosquitoes) which in turn shows female mosquitoes to be particularly
sensitive to sounds at around 250Hz, and males at around 450Hz.

Looking at a spectrogram of your recording, there are two distinct bands of
mosquito sounds, one centered at around 350Hz, the other at 700Hz. When you
speak, the frequency of each of these bands increases, then falls back to
its original level. When you whistle, and when the birds call, nothing
happens.

The obvious next step would be to play your recorded voice to them through
a loudspeaker, to see if it has the same effect.

Ray...


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#48801 From: "Chris Harrison" <sandboa@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 5:58 pm
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Talking to mosquitoes
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Interesting phenomenon.  It may be that the mosquitoes are reacting to the
increased CO2 that you are expelling as you talk.  I believe they are
attracted to CO2 to help them find their food source.   When you hummed with
your mouth closed, you may not have expelled as much CO2.



It would be interesting to see how they reacted to you blowing without
making any sound along with doing Ray's experiment to check the effect of
sound with no CO2.

You might want to wear some repellent for the test though!



Chris Harrison

San Antonio, TX, USA



From: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Christian
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:49 AM
To: naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Talking to mosquitoes





Hi all

Recently I was out in the Nationalpark Thy in Northern Denmark, to record
ambiences just after sunset, when I came across an extremely weak
humming-sound. Barely audible without the recorder gain at max. It turned
out to be hundreds of mosquitoes inside a small forest. I started recording,
and then when I made the announcement into the mic, I noticed the
mosquito-hum raising in pitch for a short moment. I made different
experiments, and it seemed they only reacted to my voice each time, and not
any other sounds I made.

Has anyone come across that phenomenon? Is it a known fact that mosquitos
can "hear" humans, and distinguish them from other sounds? I've never heard
of that.

I put up the recording on SoundCloud, but it probably requires some good
headphones to hear the phenomenon:

http://snd.sc/NqgQhY

(I speak to the mosquitoes in danish, but don't bother. I'm not saying
anything very intelligent anyway. After all, they are only mosquitoes...)

Hans Kock





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#48803 From: "NordicNature" <nordicnature@...>
Date: Fri Aug 3, 2012 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: Talking to mosquitoes
nordicsounds
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Thank you for sharing.
A couple of suggestions on this "phenomena" has suggested CO2 or heating from
your mouth to your mic, but shouldn't the mosquitoes/mic have been reacting when
you whistle then?
At least to me it sounds like they react to your voice frequency.
I can be something else of course...
I might try to do the same experiment if I find the time.

/ Håkan O.
soundcloud.com/nordicnature



--- In naturerecordists@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Christian" <hanskock@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Recently I was out in the Nationalpark Thy in Northern Denmark, to record
ambiences just after sunset, when I came across an extremely weak humming-sound.
Barely audible without the recorder gain at max. It turned out to be hundreds of
mosquitoes inside a small forest. I started recording, and then when I made the
announcement into the mic, I noticed the mosquito-hum raising in pitch for a
short moment. I made different experiments, and it seemed they only reacted to
my voice each time, and not any other sounds I made.
>
> Has anyone come across that phenomenon? Is it a known fact that mosquitos can
"hear" humans, and distinguish them from other sounds? I've never heard of that.
>
> I put up the recording on SoundCloud, but it probably requires some good
headphones to hear the phenomenon:
>
> http://snd.sc/NqgQhY
>
> (I speak to the mosquitoes in danish, but don't bother. I'm not saying
anything very intelligent anyway. After all, they are only mosquitoes...)
>
>
> Hans Kock
>

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