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Re: Personal to Show videoblogging

--- In netvidtheory@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser
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>
> >
> > On Feb 16, 2006, at 5:17 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:
> >
> > On 2/15/06, aliak00 <aliak77@...> wrote:
> > --- In netvidtheory@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <enric@> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to start by discussing two concepts/methods of videoblogging,
> > the Personal vlog and the Show vlog.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > The starting question I have on these forms is their nature? Personal
> > vlogs are considered long tail, but they are appear to be often
> > abandoned even though they have a enthusiastic audience. For
> > instance, "Mel's Life" ( http://melslife.org/ ) vlogs had strong
> > interest and responses, but has not had new entries (to my knowledge)
> > since the end of July, 2005. Then Show vlogs are often considered not
> > as rich in content and quality as personal vlogs, but have often have
> > a significantly larger audience and don't tend to dissapear.
> >
> > why do you think this is?
> >
> > I think perhaps due to the motivation & levels of expectations
> > behind it. thinking from personal experience, when creating a
> > personal vlog (or other project) I'm more flexible on myself and do
> > it whenever I have time or have a particular project or am in that
> > particular mood or not too tired, but it's something I can put
> > aside if something else needs to be done. whereas shows I've worked
> > on (netradio, not vlogs but similar characteristics of being a
> > 'show'), I had to do them at a particular time (they were live
> > broadcasts) and I had prepared for them (some were ad hoc on the
> > fly though!) where I'd done research or interviews etc, so I always
> > had the expectations of the other people involved to keep me
> > motivated as I didn't want to let them down & I enjoyed helping
> > them out, plus the regular timeslot. it wasn't a routine format
> > each show but routine time each week so it got done. ie, basically
> > for me it's down to meeting expectations of myself (personal)
> > compared to meeting expectations of others (show).
> >
>
> First, Howdy Kath, I don't believe I've had the pleasure of
> exchanging email with you before.
>
> Well, I think Mell and Clint have been distracted with moving across
> country, but putting my personal knowledge a side I do think the
> following
>
> 1) there's a great deal of experimentation in this period, there's
> going to be a lot of turnover. The short term trends right now do not
> reflect some larger trend. I expect it will be alike this for a few
> years as video blogging gains hype. But I suspect mostly it'll just
> be more regular blogs who occasionally post a video or audio post.
>
> 2) I do think your right that so called "entertainment" oriented...
> or perhaps better put as "commercial oriented" vlogs will have less
> short term turnover.... this is because there's a higher boundary for
> entry... a higher commitment that requires long term thinking and
> long term commitment.
>
> 3) Finally, I don't see any problem with vlogs not posting for months
> on end. It's there... it's an open and established public
> communications channel... whenever or however they choose to post
> next, I think most do... I know I'll go perhaps two weeks sometimes
> without making a post. Perhaps even three. Volume is not an issue,
> quality is... All that matters to me... is that that feed remains in
> my fireant, itunes, mefeedia, or other RSS aggregator so that when
> something does pop up I'll be sure to notice it.
>
> All in all this notated difference between commercial and personal
> vlogs does not so much interest me. I'm actually more interested in
> trends in personal and commercial vlogs... First and foremost I find
> it extremely interested that most personal vlogs are used as a form
> of communication, while most commercial vlogs tend to be skewed
> toward entertainment... which is less about two way communication and
> more synonymous with broadcast media. I believe there are other
> trends... developing genres perhaps that commercial vlogs and
> personal vlogs tend to migrate toward.
>
> Peace,
>
> -Mike
>

So it appears to me from the responses that the Personal and Show vlog
categories are oversimplified classes?

Or are my descriptions of the Personal and Show vlogs innacurate? If
so, are there more pertinent descriptions?

If the categories are oversimplications, are there other
classifications that are more useful and accurate?

-- Enric

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I'd like to start by discussing two concepts/methods of videoblogging, the Personal vlog and the Show vlog. Examples of Personal vlogs are "Echoplex Park",...
Enric
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Feb 14, 2006
11:07 pm

... OK. For the purpose of discussion I suggest that it may be unwise at this stage to leap to "there are two kinds ...". I understand that your phrasing was...
Frank Carver
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Feb 14, 2006
11:52 pm

What I gather from the response is that the categories of Personal vlogs and Show vlogs are not useful. Since vlogs are mostly a range of these and probably...
Enric
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Feb 15, 2006
12:13 am

... This is an interesting idea because I'd argue that show format are richer in subtext than text. For example Tiki Bar, which on the surface is lofi comedy...
Conrad Slater
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Feb 15, 2006
12:11 am

... Interesting points and perspectives. Who are the different demographics drawn to the content and style of the vlog show format to those drawn to the...
Enric
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Feb 15, 2006
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... [snip] The starting question I have on these forms is their nature? Personal ... why do you think this is? I think perhaps due to the motivation & levels...
Kath O'Donnell
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Feb 16, 2006
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... First, Howdy Kath, I don't believe I've had the pleasure of exchanging email with you before. Well, I think Mell and Clint have been distracted with moving...
Michael Meiser
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Feb 16, 2006
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... So it appears to me from the responses that the Personal and Show vlog categories are oversimplified classes? Or are my descriptions of the Personal and...
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