Thanks Laurent, I agree it would be good to have in the Guidelines. It would be
interesting to see how others are doing this and I hope this thread continues a
bit (hint hint to all lurkers).






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>>> laurent.lemeur@... 05/02/08 10:09 PM >>>
>
> [Laurent Le Meur: Currently most wires use a slug term for this
> purpose (ex. OLY2008)]
>
> Could you please expand on that?

Doing it the old way: choosing a keyword and inserting it in the slug for all
stories. Most news agencies must still accommodate with old formats and
practices.

Re NewsML 1 solutions: AssociatedWith (and DerivedFrom) relate a news item to
another news item.

If you want to associate a news item with an entity (an event, a recurring
topic...) there is a solution in NewsML 1:

TopicOccurrence = An indication that a particular topic occurs within the
content of a NewsComponent. The optional HowPresent attribute indicates the
nature of that topic's occurrence. The value of the Topic attribute must consist
of a # character followed by the value of the Duid attribute of a Topic in the
current document.

It is a little complex to use (you need a local Topic structure), but I guess
you'll find some information in the "NewsML 1.2 guidelines", available on the
IPTC Web site.

By the way it would be good to have a NewsML 1 agreed upon solution for this,
inserted in the guidelines.

Laurent Le Meur



> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : newsml@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newsml@yahoogroups.com] De la part
> de masood_a
> Envoyé : vendredi 2 mai 2008 20:50
> À : newsml@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : [newsml] Re: Identifying story threads from NewsML
>
> Thanks for all the responses. These are very helpful.
>
> [Laurent Le Meur: Note NewsML-G2 defines a property named <instanceOf>
> specifically for this purpose ("thread" or "fixture" like "market
> opening").]
>
> [Misha: When using the NewsML-G2 Subject property to tie together News
> Items about an event one would place an Event identifier in the
> Subject property.]
>
> We are using NewsML 1.2 right now, so we may not be able to make use
> of the NewsML-G2 features. Though it appears that that may be a
> standard way of creating the association between different stories of
> a "thread". Also if all wires use this feature, it may make it easier
> for news processing systems.
>
> [Laurent Le Meur: Currently most wires use a slug term for this
> purpose (ex. OLY2008)]
>
> Could you please expand on that?
>
> [Jayson Lorenzen: /NewsML/NewsItem/NewsManagement/AssociatedWith:
> Create a document that identifies the thread and ties other documents
> together...]
>
> [Takahiro Fujiwara: /NewsML/NewsItem/NewsManagement/DerivedFrom: You
> can describe details in FormalName attribute]
>
> These are interesting suggestions.
>
> We would ideally like to identify an element that is set by the wires
> themselves or can be deduced on our end with a reasonable degree of
> reliability. Using the AssociatedWith element and creating a "meta"
> document would imply that this identifying document will be stored in
> the news storage system.
>
> Also it appears Reuters uses the
> /NewsML/NewsItem/NewsComponent/NewsComponent/NewsLines/SlugLine
> element to identify/set the
> "thread" in NewsML.
>
> thanks,
> -Masood
>
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