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RE: [newsml] Re: Identifying story threads from NewsML

From: newsml@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newsml@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jayson Lorenzen
> Thanks Laurent, I agree it would be good to have in the
> Guidelines. It would be interesting to see how others
> are doing this and I hope this thread continues a bit
> (hint hint to all lurkers).


PA runs on a 24-hour news cycle. Our wire services are driven using
NITF, so we use du-key/@key and @version to indicate the threading of
our stories, with series/@series-part to indicate how pieces of the
story join together. Our du-key/@key is derived from the slugline.

In newsML terms, we map du-key/@key onto NewsItemId - so stories can
grow and have write-throughs whilst retainign the sane NewsItemId. We
spot parent and child stories, and use AssociatedWith to link up fromt
he child to the parent, and NewsItemRef in a
NewsComponent[/Role/@FormalName='Supporting'] hierarchy to link down
from parents to children.

Unfortunately what we don't have is a mechanism for carrying stories
across multiple days. Having not had the discussion with Editorial about
long-running stories and whether they really do 'replace' each other
across days, I'm not sure of we'd keep re-using the sane NewsItemId and
DateId and just jeep increasing RevisionId - if not, I think we'd create
a new dateId/NewsItemId pair and use DerivedFrom to point to yesterday's
story.

Paul

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Tue May 6, 2008 10:16 am

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Hi- We are trying to identify a field in NewsML that can be used to identify a set of related stories consistently. This set of stories can be about, lets say...
masood_a
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May 1, 2008
6:08 pm

It is true that NewsML 1 did not tackle this topic. * NewsItemId must not be used for this purpose, as it is part of the unique identification of the news...
Laurent LE MEUR
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May 2, 2008
12:18 pm

When using the NewsML-G2 Subject property to tie together News Items about an event one would place an Event identifier in the Subject property. Misha ... ...
Misha Wolf
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May 2, 2008
12:36 pm

Hello masood, could you not use the /NewsML/NewsItem/NewsManagement/AssociatedWith element? Create a document that identifies the thread and ties other...
Jayson Lorenzen
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May 2, 2008
1:55 pm

Hello J, masood, How is /NewsML/NewsItem/NewsManagement/DerivedFrom ? You can describe details in FormalName attribute. BTW, this ML is for NewsML1....
Takahiro Fujiwara
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May 2, 2008
5:13 pm

Thanks for all the responses. These are very helpful. [Laurent Le Meur: Note NewsML-G2 defines a property named <instanceOf> specifically for this purpose...
masood_a
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May 2, 2008
6:50 pm

... Doing it the old way: choosing a keyword and inserting it in the slug for all stories. Most news agencies must still accommodate with old formats and...
Laurent LE MEUR
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May 3, 2008
5:09 am

Thanks Laurent, I agree it would be good to have in the Guidelines. It would be interesting to see how others are doing this and I hope this thread continues...
Jayson Lorenzen
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May 5, 2008
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From: newsml@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newsml@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jayson Lorenzen ... PA runs on a 24-hour news cycle. Our wire services are driven...
Paul Harman
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