nmrpipe : Messages : 1-30 of 2009

Re: recent nmrDraw problem reported by our friend Keith --

          It turns out the problem was due to executing the
          "nmrdraw" program directly, without arguments.
          The command "nmrDraw" should be used instead.

          As you may know, the command "nmrDraw" is actually
          a script which starts "nmrdraw" with the appropriate
          arguments.

		 Many Cheerful Regards,

		 Big FD

#29

From: "Dr. Keith J. Cross" <k.cross@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 2:40 am
Subject: NMRpipe crashing on startup

k.cross@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx

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<HTML>
Hi,
<P>I installed nmrpipe on an Indigo2 running IRIX 6.4, the installation
ran with no errors and the programs executed correctly. We have since upgraded
the operating system to IRIX 6.5.2, and now the command nmrdraw prints
the legal notice and crashes with the message:
<P>Bus error (core dumped)
<P>I've tried reinstalling the software form the NIH site, but the problem
persists. Has anybody else run into this problem or have suggestions for
a cure?
<P>Thanks,
<BR>&nbsp;Keith
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#28

From: Banville Debra DL <debra.banville@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Mon Apr 12, 1999 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: processing new varian 3-D data

debra.banville@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx

Jessica,
I am pasting some of my notes on 3D conversion/processing below w/ one
example a protein pack expt, the hncacb, conversion and processing .com
files.  Hope this helps in deciphering the data:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+
                           VARIAN DATA CONVERSION
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+
>vi propar (or use the varian conversion w/in nmrDraw menu to get the
relevant parameters read into a fid.com file)
    Parameters needed are:
                 sfrq, dfrq, dfrq2, np, ni, ni2, sw, sw1, sw2, array

Some parameters to consider for the data conversion (fid.com),
>Sensitivity Enhancement (SE or PEP) along z-axis:
| nmrPipe -fn MAC -macro $NMRTXT/ranceZ.M -noRd -noWr         \
|pipe2xyz -out fidc/hnca%03d.fid -verb -ov -to 0

>Acquisition Order:
-acq ORD 0 [default] if array='phase2,phase'
-acq ORD 1           if array='phase,phase2'

Some parameters to consider for the data processing (ft3.com),

xyz2pipe -in pdata/ft3d%03d.ft1 -z -verb \
etc...
| nmrPipe  -fn SIGN -i  \       if f1coef='1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0' e.g. ghn_cacb
                                 is needed on the instrument.
--------------------------------------------------
EXAMPLE#1-Protein Pack ghn_cacb.com
-------------------start of ghncacb_fid.com-----------------------------
#!/bin/csh

# Varian 3D States-Mode Standard Protein Pack ghncacb Conversion:
# Sensitivity Enhanced along N15 dimension (Z-axis)  => ranceZ.M
# Collected on a Unity Inova w/ Digital Processing (dsp).

zcat ./fid.Z | var2pipe   \
    -xN           1152    -yN           100  -zN           64  \
    -xT            576    -yT            50  -zT           32  \
    -xMODE     Complex    -yMODE    Complex  -zMODE   Complex  \
    -xSW       8003.20    -ySW      9050.00  -zSW     1400.02  \
    -xOBS  500.0453224    -yOBS 125.7413607  -zOBS 50.6747054  \
    -xCAR         4.78    -yCAR       46.08  -zCAR     115.54  \
    -xLAB           HN    -yLAB        CaCb  -zLAB          N  \
    -ndim            3    -aq2D      States  -aqORD 1          \
| nmrPipe -fn MAC -macro $NMRTXT/ranceZ.M -noRd -noWr         \
|pipe2xyz -out fidc/hncacb%03d.fid -verb -ov -to 0

echo DONE.
-------------------end of ghncacb_fid.com-----------------------------

-------------------start of ghncacb_ft3.com-----------------------------
#!/bin/csh

echo "FT in F3"

xyz2pipe -in fidc/hncacb%03d.fid -x -verb                                 \
| nmrPipe  -fn SOL                                                        \
| nmrPipe  -fn SP -off 0.35 -end 0.95 -pow 2 -c 0.5                       \
| nmrPipe  -fn ZF -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn FT -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn PS -p0 110.0 -p1 0.0 -di                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn EXT -left -sw                                              \
| pipe2xyz -out pdata/ft3d%03d.ft1 -x

echo "preliminary FT in F1"

xyz2pipe -in pdata/ft3d%03d.ft1 -z                                        \
| nmrPipe  -fn SP -off 0.4 -end 0.95 -pow 2 -c 0.5                        \
| nmrPipe  -fn ZF -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn FT -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn PS -p0 0.0 -p1 0.0 -di                                     \
| pipe2xyz -out pdata/ft3d%03d.ft1 -z -inPlace

echo "FT in F2"
echo ">with forward LP and SIGN -i reversal in F2"

xyz2pipe -in pdata/ft3d%03d.ft1 -y                                        \
| nmrPipe  -fn LP -ps0-0                                                  \
| nmrPipe  -fn SIGN -i                                                    \
| nmrPipe  -fn SP -off 0.35 -end 1 -pow 2 -c 1.0                          \
| nmrPipe  -fn ZF -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn FT -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn PS -p0 0.0 -p1 0.0 -di                                     \
| pipe2xyz -out pdata/ft3d%03d.ft1 -y -inPlace

echo "final FT in F1"
echo ">with forward back LP"

xyz2pipe -in pdata/ft3d%03d.ft1 -z -verb                                  \
| nmrPipe  -fn HT -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn PS -p0 0.0 -p1 0.0                  -inv                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn FT                                  -inv                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn ZF                                  -inv                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn SP -off 0.4 -end 0.95 -pow 2 -c 0.5 -inv                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn LP -fb                                                     \
| nmrPipe  -fn SP -off 0.44 -end 0.95 -pow 2 -c 0.5                       \
| nmrPipe  -fn ZF -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn FT -auto                                                   \
| nmrPipe  -fn PS -p0 0.0 -p1 0.0 -di                                     \
| pipe2xyz -out pdata/hncacb%03d.dat -z


echo DONE!

/bin/rm pdata/ft3d*.ft1
-------------------end of ghncacb_ft3.com-----------------------------

Debbie

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Debra.Banville@...
tel:  302-886-8082;  fax: 302-886-5382
office:  NLW3035;    lab:  NLW3043
snail mail:  Zeneca Pharmaceuticals
                 1800 Concord Pike, PO Box#15437
                 Wilmington, Delaware 19850-5437
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

> ----------
> From:  Jessica L. Dion[SMTP:jdion@...]
> Sent:  Monday, April 12, 1999 1:56 PM
> To:  nmrpipe@onelist.com
> Subject:  [nmrpipe] processing new varian 3-D data
>
> From: "Jessica L. Dion" <jdion@...>
>
>
> Hello -
>
> We've recently been running a few of Varian's "protein pack" pulse
> sequences, and I've had terrible luck processing the resulting data with
> nmrPipe.  The data looks fine processed with Vnmr.  Normally, data
> processed with nmrPipe looks better (in my opinion) than vnmr data, but
> this is not the case here.
>
> I figured out that when we run some of the 3-D experiments as 2-D
> experiments (for optimization purposes), the 2-D experiments need to be
> gradsorted for nmrPipe to process them correctly, even though vnmr itself
> doesn't need the data to be gradsorted.
>
> The corresponding 3-D data sets are giving me all kinds of grief.  I am
> seeing some strange symmetry related problems - not a mirroring exactly,
> but definitely a duplication of sorts.  Of course, this prevents me from
> phasing in a meaningful way also.
>
> If any of you have had luck processing the data from some of the newer 3-D
> experiments, or have any tips on troubleshooting processing scripts with
> this strange data, I'm all ears.
>
> Thank you!
>
> 					 - Jessica Dion
> 						  Biochemistry Dept.
> 						  University of Vermont
>
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#27

From: "Jessica L. Dion" <jdion@...>
Date: Mon Apr 12, 1999 5:56 pm
Subject: processing new varian 3-D data

jdion@...

Hello -

We've recently been running a few of Varian's "protein pack" pulse
sequences, and I've had terrible luck processing the resulting data with
nmrPipe.  The data looks fine processed with Vnmr.  Normally, data
processed with nmrPipe looks better (in my opinion) than vnmr data, but
this is not the case here.

I figured out that when we run some of the 3-D experiments as 2-D
experiments (for optimization purposes), the 2-D experiments need to be
gradsorted for nmrPipe to process them correctly, even though vnmr itself
doesn't need the data to be gradsorted.

The corresponding 3-D data sets are giving me all kinds of grief.  I am
seeing some strange symmetry related problems - not a mirroring exactly,
but definitely a duplication of sorts.  Of course, this prevents me from
phasing in a meaningful way also.

If any of you have had luck processing the data from some of the newer 3-D
experiments, or have any tips on troubleshooting processing scripts with
this strange data, I'm all ears.

Thank you!

						 - Jessica Dion
						   Biochemistry Dept.
						   University of Vermont

#26

From: Lawrence McIntosh <mcintosh@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: (no subject)

mcintosh@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx

If f1180='n', then you should not need a phase correction
in the indirect dimension - just scaling of the first
data point, which is not really recorded at t=0.

If you are having problems, e.g. mirror image peaks in f1,
besure to use a program like Lewis Kay's "grad_sort" to
pre-process the FID's for sensitivity enhancement and
gradient selection.

Cheers

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lawrence McIntosh
2146 Health Sciences Mall
Departments of Biochemistry and Chemistry
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z3

mcintosh@...
ph:  (604) 822-3341
fax: (604) 822-5227
http://www.biochem.ubc.ca/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, qin liu wrote:

> From: liu@... (qin liu)
>
> Dear colleague,
> I just start learning to use the nmrPipe. In the sample
> directory  of 'varian2d', the file of ft2.com performs
> phase correction(-90, 180) in indirect dimension. I checked
> the propar file , the 'f1180' was set to 'n'. Why need phase
> correction in such situation? Thanks a lot for answering
> my question.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Qin Liu
> Immunology Division
> City of Hope
> 1450 East Duarte Road, Duarte
> CA 91010
>
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#25

From: liu@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 7:47 pm
Subject: (no subject)

liu@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx

Dear colleague,
I just start learning to use the nmrPipe. In the sample
directory  of 'varian2d', the file of ft2.com performs
phase correction(-90, 180) in indirect dimension. I checked
the propar file , the 'f1180' was set to 'n'. Why need phase
correction in such situation? Thanks a lot for answering
my question.

Best wishes,

Qin Liu
Immunology Division
City of Hope
1450 East Duarte Road, Duarte
CA 91010

#24

From: <spin@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

spin@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxx

Hi Debra,

My cheap way to edit Postscript file on SGI or PC Linux is first to
convert it into EPS file (with preview image) by "ps2epsi", a shell
script. Then import the EPS file (with preview image) to programs
like "tgif" or "xfig". In "tgif" or "xfig" I can annotate the encapsulated
postscript image then output them in various formats like "ps", "eps","gif",
etc.

Shou-Lin
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312 Church St. S.E.                              TEL(O):(612)625-8611
5-258 BSBE                                       FAX(O):(612)624-5121
Department of Biochemistry, Molecular Biology
and Biophysics
University of Minnesota at Twin Cities

On 23 Mar 1999 debra.banville@... wrote:

> From: debra.banville@...
>
> I would like to find software either on the SGI or PC that would allow me to
view AND edit the .ps file output generated by nmrDraw (e.g. labeling of 2D
contour regions).
>
> I can insert the ps file into my PC's powerpoint but not view it.  I can use
xpsview on the SGI to view the .ps file but can not edit or re-save it as a tiff
or other type of file.  Adobe Illustrator on the SGI does not open this as a
file that can be edited, and I want to avoid the poor quality of bit-mapped
output.
>
> Any ideas on what other people do would be appreciated.  Ultimately, I would
like to minimize the number of steps necessary...avoid being a
"contour-tion-ist" to get good quality figures.
>
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#23

From: "D. Joe Anderson" <adrs@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

adrs@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx

The GIMP (The GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a Photoshop work-alike that
might allow you to do what you need.  The downside of it is that it is still
in its early versions (1.0.2 is the latest stable release) and that you will
probably have to compile first the gtk library and then the GIMP package
itself.  The upside is that it is freeware and has attracted a large
following of developers and users in a short time.

See http://www.gimp.org/ and ftp://ftp.gimp.org/ for details.  I've played
around with pre-compiled versions that ship with the Slackware Linux
distribution and have made a uncompleted, half-hearted effort to compile it
for our SGI (half-hearted mostly because my new sub-$1000 Linux box does just
about everything faster than our 3-year old SGI box, including NMR data
transformations and restrained MD calculations).

Best of luck,

--Joe
___________________________________________________________________________
D. Joe Anderson, Jr.            Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry
adrs@...         UCSC, Santa Cruz, CA  95064
831/459-3390                    http://elmo.ucsc.edu/~adrs/



>
> From: debra.banville@...
>
> I would like to find software either on the SGI or PC that would allow me to
view AND edit the .ps file output generated by nmrDraw (e.g. labeling of 2D
contour regions).
>
> I can insert the ps file into my PC's powerpoint but not view it.  I can use
xpsview on the SGI to view the .ps file but can not edit or re-save it as a tiff
or other type of file.  Adobe Illustrator on the SGI does not open this as a
file that can be edited, and I want to avoid the poor quality of bit-mapped
output.
>
> Any ideas on what other people do would be appreciated.  Ultimately, I would
like to minimize the number of steps necessary...avoid being a
"contour-tion-ist" to get good quality figures.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and
> select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left.
>

#22

From: Adam Zabell <zabell@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

zabell@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxxx

> From: Kevin Gardner <kgardn@...>
>
> debra.banville@... wrote:
> > I would like to find software either on the SGI or PC that would
> > allow me to view AND edit the .ps file output generated by nmrDraw
> > (e.g. labeling of 2D contour regions).
> ...
> > Adobe Illustrator on the SGI does not open this as a file that can
> > be edited, and I want to avoid the poor quality of bit-mapped output.
>
> Hmmm.  Illustrator is my preferred program for this, but I've used it
> almost exclusively on Mac platforms where it works well.  I recall
> that older versions of Illustrator (pre-v5) had some issues with
> importing generic Postscript files, which could be a problem if your
> SGI version of Illustrator is on the  older side.

The problem may also have to do with the amount of RAM that Illustrator
has access to.  On a Mac this is an easy fix; not quite sure what
to do with a PC.  I have had problems importing very large (i.e. many
many contours) Postscript files into Illustrator 7.0 on a Mac.  In those
situations, I've manually edited the .ps file with vi and reviewed the
output using xpsview, all on an SGI.

Adam Zabell

#21

From: Patricia LiWang <liwang@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:37 pm
Subject: Postscript viewing and editing

liwang@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx

We use (but do not necessarily wholeheartedly endorse) a program called
IslandDraw (now bundled with IslandWrite and some other goodies).  This can
read postscript easily, and allows "ungrouping" of pieces of the figure
(such as axes or tick marks) for separate movement, labeling, removal,
enlargement, etc.  The downside of this program is the high cost:  At least
$1000 for the original package, good only for *one* user at a time;  this
is followed by yearly demands for more than $200 for retaining the
priviledge of doing things like moving the software to a different
computer.  (If you don't pay the yearly extortion, they charge you $150
each time you want to move the program to a different computer.)  In
addition, the drawing program has only the most primitive writing
capability (a few fonts and styles), so that labeling an axis with
something as simple as (15N) is difficult because there is no superscript!
However, IslandDraw is simple to use, and makes good-looking figures right
on your Unix box.

Regards, esp to BFD,
Patti LiWang

_________________________________
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Assistant Professor of Chemistry
Purdue University
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office (765) 494-8519
lab    (765) 494-7372
fax    (765) 494-0239
liwang@...
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#20

From: Gerard Kroon <kroon@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

kroon@xxxxxxx.xxxx

debra.banville@... wrote:

> From: debra.banville@...
>
> I would like to find software either on the SGI or PC that would allow me to
view AND edit the .ps file output generated by nmrDraw (e.g. labeling of 2D
contour regions).
>
> I can insert the ps file into my PC's powerpoint but not view it.  I can use
xpsview on the SGI to view the .ps file but can not edit or re-save it as a tiff
or other type of file.  Adobe Illustrator on the SGI does not open this as a
file that can be edited, and I want to avoid the poor quality of bit-mapped
output.
>
> Any ideas on what other people do would be appreciated.  Ultimately, I would
like to minimize the number of steps necessary...avoid being a
"contour-tion-ist" to get good quality figures.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and
> select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left.

  Hi Debra,

We're using CorelDraw 8 on the PC to edit the PS files.

Cheers,

Gerard.

--
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The Scripps Research Institute
Dept. of Molecular Biology
10550 North Torrey Pines Rd.
La Jolla, CA 92037
Tel.: +1 619-784-9650
Fax:  +1 619-784-9822
E-mail: kroon@...
Home page: http://www.scripps.edu/wright

#19

From: Virgil Simplaceanu <vs2a+@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

vs2a+@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx

>Date: 23 Mar 1999 16:01:39 -0000
>To: nmrpipe@onelist.com
>From: debra.banville@...
>Subject: [nmrpipe] Postscript Files from nmrDraw
>
>From: debra.banville@...
>
>I would like to find software either on the SGI or PC that would allow
me to view
> AND edit the .ps file output generated by nmrDraw (e.g. labeling of 2D
contour
> regions).
>
>I can insert the ps file into my PC's powerpoint but not view it.  I
can use xps
>view on the SGI to view the .ps file but can not edit or re-save it as
a tiff or
> other type of file.  Adobe Illustrator on the SGI does not open this
as a file
>that can be edited, and I want to avoid the poor quality of bit-mapped output.
>
>Any ideas on what other people do would be appreciated.  Ultimately, I
would like
>to minimize the number of steps necessary...avoid being a
"contour-tion-ist" to
>get good quality figures.

Hi!

PostScript files are text files, so to edit,  add/delete text, can use jot on
SGI and xpsview to view the results (reopen after editing, saving).
The ghosview is nicer, as it gives the coordiantes of the cross-hair cursor
and makes positioning of the text easier.

Virgil

#18

From: Lawrence McIntosh <mcintosh@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

mcintosh@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx

Hi - The program "IslandDraw" does a very good job of reading
ps files and allowing you to edit, etc. I believe that there
are Sun and SGI versions.

Cheers

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lawrence McIntosh
2146 Health Sciences Mall
Departments of Biochemistry and Chemistry
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z3

mcintosh@...
ph:  (604) 822-3341
fax: (604) 822-5227
http://www.biochem.ubc.ca/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

#17

From: Deane D McIntyre <dmcintyr@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

dmcintyr@xxxxxxxx.xxx

debra.banville@... wrote:

> I would like to find software either on the SGI or PC that would allow me to
view AND edit the .ps file output generated by nmrDraw (e.g. labeling of 2D
contour regions).
>
> I can insert the ps file into my PC's powerpoint but not view it.  I can use
xpsview on the SGI to view the .ps file but can not edit or re-save it as a tiff
or other type of file.  Adobe Illustrator on the SGI does not open this as a
file that can be edited, and I want to avoid the poor quality of bit-mapped
output.
>
> Any ideas on what other people do would be appreciated.  Ultimately, I would
like to minimize the number of steps necessary...avoid being a
"contour-tion-ist" to get good quality figures.
>

We have beem using Adobe Illustrator for doing this for a couple of
years now, on both PC's
and Macs. Have not tried the SGI version. File can be saved in
Illustrator format or
as a EPS or PS file.

Cheers,
Deane D McIntyre
NMR Mananger
Dept Biological Sciences
University of Calgary
dmcintyr@...

#16

From: Kevin Gardner <kgardn@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

kgardn@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx

Hi all:

debra.banville@... wrote:
> I would like to find software either on the SGI or PC that would
> allow me to view AND edit the .ps file output generated by nmrDraw
> (e.g. labeling of 2D contour regions).
...
> Adobe Illustrator on the SGI does not open this as a file that can
> be edited, and I want to avoid the poor quality of bit-mapped output.

Hmmm.  Illustrator is my preferred program for this, but I've used it
almost exclusively on Mac platforms where it works well.  I recall
that older versions of Illustrator (pre-v5) had some issues with
importing generic Postscript files, which could be a problem if your
SGI version of Illustrator is on the  older side.  In this case,
you've got several options if you'd still like to go with Illustrator:

	 -upgrade your version of Illustrator on the SGI (or get
	 a newer PC version) that can open just about any Postscript
	 file

	 -get a nice utility called "aimaker" that will convert
	 any Postscript into a file that older versions of Illustrator
	 will find more palatable.  A shar-file distribution of this
	 package can be found at:

			 ftp.aos.princeton.edu/pub/olsewsk

Sincerely,
Kevin

--
*********************************************************************
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Asst. Professor,   Biochemistry Dept., UT Southwestern Medical Center
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#15

From: debra.banville@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 4:01 pm
Subject: Postscript Files from nmrDraw

debra.banville@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx

I would like to find software either on the SGI or PC that would allow me to
view AND edit the .ps file output generated by nmrDraw (e.g. labeling of 2D
contour regions).

I can insert the ps file into my PC's powerpoint but not view it.  I can use
xpsview on the SGI to view the .ps file but can not edit or re-save it as a tiff
or other type of file.  Adobe Illustrator on the SGI does not open this as a
file that can be edited, and I want to avoid the poor quality of bit-mapped
output.

Any ideas on what other people do would be appreciated.  Ultimately, I would
like to minimize the number of steps necessary...avoid being a
"contour-tion-ist" to get good quality figures.

#14

From: Frank Delaglio <delaglio@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Mon Mar 15, 1999 9:00 pm
Subject: Peak Picking

delaglio@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx.xxxx

Dear Colleagues,

	 Some comments on peak picking errors below, as inspired
	 by our friend Werner K. ...

		 Many Regards,

		 Frank

---
The NMRDraw Peak/Detect command actually performs peak detection
in the background, via a special NMRWish tcl script.  A new
script is constructed and saved each time a Peak/Detect command
is issued from NMRDraw.  The name of the script is always "pk.tcl",
and it will be saved in NMRDraw's current working directory.
The script itself performs the peak detection, and saves the results
in a table.  When detection is complete, the script exits, and then
NMRDraw reads the table and displays the results.

There are a few places where this scheme can go astray:

1. Since a script "pk.tcl" will be created and saved, you must
    have write permissions in the working directory.  If you
    don't have appropriate permissions, the script can't be created,
    and peak detection will fail.

2. The script requires a definition of the location of the
    "nmrWish" program.  This is established by the environment
    variable "NMRBIN", which should point to the directory
    containing the various NMRPipe executables (for example,
    /disk1/NMRPipe/nmrbin.sgi6x).  Normally, this environment
    variable and others are established by the initialization
    script "nmrInit.*.com" which is created during installation
    of NMRPipe.  NMRPipe users should execute this script or one
    like it to establish the required environment variables.
    If these values are not established correctly, peak detection,
    along with many other features, will not work.

3. We've heard that in certain versions of UNIX, scripts may not
    work if the directory path (e.g. NMRBIN above) contains too
    many characters. If this problem is suspected, you can try
    to use symbolic links to create a shorter path to the software.

#13

From: "Klaus, Werner {PRPC~Basel}" <WERNER.KLAUS.WK1@xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Mon Mar 15, 1999 2:35 pm
Subject: Peak Picking & nmrPipe

WERNER.KLAUS.WK1@xxxxx.xxxx

Hallo, nmrPipe community!

when I try to peak-pick a 3D spectrum within nmrPipe (new version 1.7), I
get the crazy message: "error executing system command " and "error
detecting peaks" from nmrPipe. At the shell-level, the response is: "pk.tcl
not found". That pk.tcl can't be found, is not really surprising, because it
is definitively not there.
My problem is that it was also not there with my previous installation (at
least I can't localized it in the old directories), but  peak-picking used
to work very fine!!!
Has someone any idea what might be wrong? Has someone else encountered the
same problem?

Best regards

Werner Klaus

Dr. Werner Klaus
F. Hoffmann - LaRoche AG
Dep. PRPC-S 	 Tel. xx-41-61-688-1686
Building 65 / 514  Fax:xx-41-61-688-7408
CH-4070 Basel 	 E-Mail:  Werner.Klaus.wk1@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Delaglio [SMTP:delaglio@...]
> Sent: Freitag, 5. Februar 1999 19:28
> To: nmrpipe@onelist.com
> Subject: [nmrpipe] Re: Varian,nmrPipe,spscan/xeasy on Linux/Slackware
> 3.5
>
> From: Frank Delaglio <delaglio@...>
>
>         Dear Colleagues,
>
>         The note from Joe regarding Linux/SGI most likely concerns
>         the byte-ordering differences between PC hardware and most
>         other UNIX hardware.  Some info that may be helpful follows.
>
>
>                 Best Regards,
>
>                 Frank
> ---
>         Using the "-inSwap" flag will cause nmrPipe to convert
>         (byte-swap) the input header before interpreting in.
>
>         Using the "-outSwap" flag will cause nmrPipe to convert
>         (byte-swap) the output header before writing it.
>
>         The nmrPipe funcion "SHUF -bswap" can be used to byte-swap
>         the data itself.
>
>         Some examples:
>
>         On a PC, to "export" to SGI:
>            nmrPipe -in pc.ft2 -outSwap -fn SHUF -bswap -out sgi.ft2
>
>         On an SGI, to "import" PC data:
>            nmrPipe -in pc.ft2 -inSwap  -fn SHUF -bswap -out sgi.ft2
>
>         Conversion can also be performed in-place, such as:
>            nmrPipe -in test.ft2 -inSwap -fn SHUF -bswap -out test.ft2
> -inPlace
>
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#12

From: Kevin Gardner <kgardn@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Wed Feb 24, 1999 12:15 am
Subject: Using your own Tcl/Tk (was: nmrpipe on linux)

kgardn@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx

Hi all:

Virgil Simplaceanu wrote:
> Now, another suggestion was that I replace the supplied Tcl with
> a new recompiled Tcl7.6 or Tcl8.0 in the $TCL_LIBRARY. Is it OK to
> supply our own version?

While I can't speak for Linux-based systems, I've been able to happily
use my own Tcl/Tk on my system (Irix 6.5.3m, running Tcl 8.0.4 and Tk
8.0.4).  Given that I use other Tcl/Tk-based applications (nmrview),
the prospects of each of them carrying their own Tcl/Tk distributions
bothered me so I hopped over to use a new common one.  Things seem
to be working OK from here, but your mileage may vary....

Sincerely,
Kevin

--
*********************************************************************
Kevin Gardner, Ph.D.                         kgardn@...
Asst. Professor,   Biochemistry Dept., UT Southwestern Medical Center
214-648-8916/FAX: -8947                     http://freedom7.swmed.edu

#11

From: Virgil Simplaceanu <vs2a+@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Feb 23, 1999 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: nmrpipe on linux

vs2a+@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx

Thanks to all who gave me hints about why my graphics server
would fail to start nmrDraw, complaining about color allocation.

Problem is, I already tried those:
     - run with '-virt Sometimes'
     - limit number of colors in startx
     - limit the number of concurrent applications - there was nothing
but nmrDraw.

Now, another suggestion was that I replace the supplied Tcl with
a new recompiled Tcl7.6 or Tcl8.0 in the $TCL_LIBRARY. Is it OK to supply our
own version?

This is probably for Frank to answer. (?)

Regards to all,

Virgil

>
>   -----------------------------------------------------------------
>   Virgil Simplaceanu
>   Department of Biological Sciences
>   Carnegie Mellon University
>   4400 Fifth Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>
>   email: vs2a@...
>   Tel 412.268.7339 (office) 412.268.4081 (NMR lab)
>   Fax 412.268.7083
>
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------
>

#10

From: Alex Breeze <breeze@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Feb 19, 1999 10:19 am
Subject: Re: nmrpipe on linux

breeze@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx

Virgil,

Just in case you haven't already done so: have you tried running nmrDraw
with the argument '-virt sometimes' ?

Cheers,
Alex

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Protein Structure Lab                           Tel. (+44) 1625 514651
Zeneca Pharmaceuticals                          Fax  (+44) 1625 517692
Mereside, Alderley Park
Cheshire SK10 4TG, UK
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From: <spin@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Feb 19, 1999 8:39 am
Subject: Re: nmrpipe on linux

spin@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxx

Hi Virgil,

I have nmrPipe installed on my P75 running Slackware 3.6. The same problem
you described occurred to me when I tried to run some color demanding
applications (such as Netscape) and nmrDraw at the same time. I guess it
has something to do with the color map allocation. Xview couldn't allocate
enough color for nmrDraw. So maybe you might want to try to close other
applications when you run nmrDraw.

Shou-Lin
---
Shou-Lin Chang                                   EMAIL:spin@...
312 Church St. S.E.                              TEL(O):(612)625-8611
5-258 Basic Sciences & Biomedical Engineering    FAX(O):(612)624-5121
Department of Biochemistry, Molecular Biology
and Biophysics
University of Minnesota at Twin Cities

On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Virgil Simplaceanu wrote:

> From: Virgil Simplaceanu <vs2a+@...>
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> I installed the new NMRPipe on a PC running RedHat Linux 5.2
> but when I type nmrDraw, the program tries to start and then would
> complain that it cannot allocate colors and planes ( a long list...)
> and quit.
>
> It seems that tclsh is missing, although Tcl/Tk scripts do run.
> For example, if I just type 'bruker', the conversion setup program
> starts, displays the windows, etc.
>
> I had no problems with installing NMRPipe on an O2.
>
>
> Can anybody help?
>
> Thanks,
> Virgil
>
>   -----------------------------------------------------------------
>   Virgil Simplaceanu
>   Department of Biological Sciences
>   Carnegie Mellon University
>   4400 Fifth Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>
>   email: vs2a@...
>   Tel 412.268.7339 (office) 412.268.4081 (NMR lab)
>   Fax 412.268.7083
>
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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From: Virgil Simplaceanu <vs2a+@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Feb 19, 1999 12:22 am
Subject: Re: nmrpipe on linux

vs2a+@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx

Excerpts from mail: 17-Feb-99 [nmrpipe] Re: nmrpipe on linux by "Gerard
J. Kroon"@scripp
>
> Make sure you're running Xwindows using 256 colors (8bpp) only.
> If you're using too many colors NMRDRAW won't work.
> You can set the number of colors by using startx -- -8bbp
>
> Good luck,
>
> Gerard.
>
Thanks, Gerard!

I tried your suggestion, actually the command is 'startx -- -bpp 8', but
to no avail.

The processing works fine, I can use a remote workstation as  a display
and see the results. It is only the graphics package on the linux machine
that refuses to display nmrDraw.

Any idea what can be missing, a path? Something installed in a
non-standard location, but what? I don't know anything about Intel
(inside or outside ;-) ) and linux. Somebody else has done all the
basic system setup of the machine.

Regards,
Virgil

    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Virgil Simplaceanu
    Department of Biological Sciences
    Carnegie Mellon University
    4400 Fifth Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15213

    email: vs2a@...
    Tel 412.268.7339 (office) 412.268.4081 (NMR lab)
    Fax 412.268.7083

    --------------------------------------------------------------------
>

From: "Gerard J. Kroon" <kroon@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Wed Feb 17, 1999 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: nmrpipe on linux

kroon@xxxxxxx.xxxx

Virgil Simplaceanu wrote:
>
> From: Virgil Simplaceanu <vs2a+@...>
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> I installed the new NMRPipe on a PC running RedHat Linux 5.2
> but when I type nmrDraw, the program tries to start and then would
> complain that it cannot allocate colors and planes ( a long list...)
> and quit.
>
> It seems that tclsh is missing, although Tcl/Tk scripts do run.
> For example, if I just type 'bruker', the conversion setup program
> starts, displays the windows, etc.
>
> I had no problems with installing NMRPipe on an O2.
>
> Can anybody help?
>
> Thanks,
> Virgil
>
>   -----------------------------------------------------------------
>   Virgil Simplaceanu
>   Department of Biological Sciences
>   Carnegie Mellon University
>   4400 Fifth Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>
>   email: vs2a@...
>   Tel 412.268.7339 (office) 412.268.4081 (NMR lab)
>   Fax 412.268.7083
>
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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Hi Virgil,


Make sure you're running Xwindows using 256 colors (8bpp) only.
If you're using too many colors NMRDRAW won't work.
You can set the number of colors by using startx -- -8bbp

Good luck,

Gerard.



--
Gerard J. Kroon
The Scripps Research Institute
Dept. of Molecular Biology
10550 North Torrey Pines Rd.
La Jolla, CA 92037
Tel.: +1 619-784-9650
Fax:  +1 619-784-9822
E-mail: kroon@...
Home page: http://www.scripps.edu/wright

From: Virgil Simplaceanu <vs2a+@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Wed Feb 17, 1999 5:39 pm
Subject: nmrpipe on linux

vs2a+@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx

Hi everyone!

I installed the new NMRPipe on a PC running RedHat Linux 5.2
but when I type nmrDraw, the program tries to start and then would
complain that it cannot allocate colors and planes ( a long list...)
and quit.

It seems that tclsh is missing, although Tcl/Tk scripts do run.
For example, if I just type 'bruker', the conversion setup program
starts, displays the windows, etc.

I had no problems with installing NMRPipe on an O2.


Can anybody help?

Thanks,
Virgil

   -----------------------------------------------------------------
   Virgil Simplaceanu
   Department of Biological Sciences
   Carnegie Mellon University
   4400 Fifth Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15213

   email: vs2a@...
   Tel 412.268.7339 (office) 412.268.4081 (NMR lab)
   Fax 412.268.7083

   --------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Klaus, Werner {PRPC~Basel}" <WERNER.KLAUS.WK1@xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Mon Feb 15, 1999 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: TALOS

WERNER.KLAUS.WK1@xxxxx.xxxx

Hi Frank,

thank you very much for informing me on your latest software release
including TALOS. I just printed out the preprint from your website as the
journal has not availlable yet.
I also tried to download the latest nmrPipe version from your ftp-site at
speck.niddk.gov.nih, but it appears to me that my password is no longer
valid. It may due to the change of my e-mail address which is now
"werner.klaus.wk1@...". It may be as well that I made a typing error
when printing my password although I tried several times. Could be please
help me?

Best regards

Werner

Dr. Werner Klaus
F. Hoffmann - LaRoche AG
Dep. PRPC 	 Tel. xx-41-61-688-1686
Building 65 / 514 	 Fax:xx-41-61-688-7408
CH-4070 Basel 	 E-Mail:  Werner.Klaus.wk1@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Delaglio [SMTP:delaglio@...]
> Sent: Dienstag, 9. Februar 1999 22:51
> To: nmrpipe@onelist.com
> Subject: [nmrpipe] TALOS
>
> From: Frank Delaglio <delaglio@...>
>
>
>         Dear Colleagues,
>
>         We've just updated the usual NMRPipe installation files
>         to include the TALOS program for prediction of protein
>         phi and psi angles using chemical shifts.  So, by installing
>         the currently-posted versions of NMRPipe from our FTP site,
>         TALOS will be automatically installed as well.
>
>         Use your existing NMRPipe FTP password to access the FTP site.
>         See the file "pub/INSTALL" at the FTP site for installation
>         instructions.
>
>         Details of the use and performance of TALOS can be found
>         at this web site:
>
>            http://spin.niddk.nih.gov/bax/software/TALOS/info.html
>
>         Hope the new software is useful, looking forward to your
>         comments ...
>
>                 Best Regards,
>
>                 Frank
>
>  _____________________________________   _________________________
>
>  Frank Delaglio                          Tel:    301 496-1207
>  National Institutes of Health           Fax:    301 496-0825
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>  5 Center Drive MSC 0505
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From: Frank Delaglio <delaglio@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Feb 9, 1999 9:51 pm
Subject: TALOS

delaglio@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx.xxxx

Dear Colleagues,

         We've just updated the usual NMRPipe installation files
         to include the TALOS program for prediction of protein
         phi and psi angles using chemical shifts.  So, by installing
         the currently-posted versions of NMRPipe from our FTP site,
         TALOS will be automatically installed as well.

         Use your existing NMRPipe FTP password to access the FTP site.
         See the file "pub/INSTALL" at the FTP site for installation
         instructions.

         Details of the use and performance of TALOS can be found
         at this web site:

            http://spin.niddk.nih.gov/bax/software/TALOS/info.html

         Hope the new software is useful, looking forward to your
         comments ...

                 Best Regards,

                 Frank

  _____________________________________   _________________________

  Frank Delaglio                          Tel:    301 496-1207
  National Institutes of Health           Fax:    301 496-0825
  Laboratory of Chemical Physics, NIDDK   e-mail: delaglio@...
  5 Center Drive MSC 0505
  Bethesda MD 20892-0505 USA
  _____________________________________   _________________________

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From: Frank Delaglio <delaglio@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Feb 5, 1999 6:27 pm
Subject: Re: Varian,nmrPipe,spscan/xeasy on Linux/Slackware 3.5

delaglio@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx.xxxx

Dear Colleagues,

         The note from Joe regarding Linux/SGI most likely concerns
         the byte-ordering differences between PC hardware and most
         other UNIX hardware.  Some info that may be helpful follows.


                 Best Regards,

                 Frank
---
         Using the "-inSwap" flag will cause nmrPipe to convert
         (byte-swap) the input header before interpreting in.

         Using the "-outSwap" flag will cause nmrPipe to convert
         (byte-swap) the output header before writing it.

         The nmrPipe funcion "SHUF -bswap" can be used to byte-swap
         the data itself.

         Some examples:

         On a PC, to "export" to SGI:
            nmrPipe -in pc.ft2 -outSwap -fn SHUF -bswap -out sgi.ft2

         On an SGI, to "import" PC data:
            nmrPipe -in pc.ft2 -inSwap  -fn SHUF -bswap -out sgi.ft2

         Conversion can also be performed in-place, such as:
            nmrPipe -in test.ft2 -inSwap -fn SHUF -bswap -out test.ft2 -inPlace

From: "D. Joe Anderson" <adrs@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Feb 5, 1999 6:18 pm
Subject: Varian,nmrPipe,spscan/xeasy on Linux/Slackware 3.5

adrs@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx

Dear nmrPipe and XEASY users:

I'm trying to get 2D homonuclear Varian data processed and converted such
that I can use it in spscan/xeasy.  I've been using versions of the nmrPipe
suite, SPSCAN and Xeasy running on both an SGI Indy R5K under IRIX 6.2 and
on my home machine, an AMD k6-II-300 running Linux kernel 2.0.34 Slackware
3.5 distribution (I've also tried Debian 2.0 with older libraries installed,
but that's another story.

The Varian data is tnnoesy and tntocsy data.  On the SGI, I can get it
processed and read into SPSCAN, but I'm not sure I'm getting the folding
quite right--I think I need RSH in the directly detected dimension but not
in the indirect dimension.  Does that sound right?

(The first line from nmrPipe showhdr is:
FILE: temp.ft1 DIM: 2 QUAD: Complex 2DMODE: States         )

On the Linux box, the SPSCAN I downloaded from the Wutrich lab ftp site
launches just fine, and by manually performing the commands from the
pipe2xeasy.spm macro, I can successfully (or so it seems) do the "access
pipe" command to read in the results from the nmrPipe "showhdr" command, but
then SPSCAN segfaults when I try the "trafo read" command on the resulting
*.param file.

I'd very much like to have a complete Linux solution to our NMR processing
and analysis needs, if for no other reason than the sub-$1000 Linux box
outperforms the SGI in most tasks.

I'd appreciate any advice or information offered on how to properly convert
my nmrPipe processed data to SPSCAN on our SGI (where SPSCAN works), and on
getting SPSCAN to work under Linux.

FYI, these are the libraries spscan uses:

ldd /opt/xeasy/spscan.1.0.62.linux
         libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4000a000)
         libg++.so.27 => /usr/ix86-linux/lib/libg++.so.27 (0x4009c000)
         libstdc++.so.27 => /usr/ix86-linux/lib/libstdc++.so.27 (0x400df000)
         libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40122000)
         libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4012b000)

--Joe
___________________________________________________________________________
D. Joe Anderson, Jr.            Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry
adrs@...         UCSC, Santa Cruz, CA  95064
831/459-3390                    http://elmo.ucsc.edu/~adrs/

From: Michael.Bernstein@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx
Date: Thu Jan 28, 1999 10:23 am
Subject: Crib notes?

Michael.Bernstein@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx

Hi,

	 We're infrequent nmrPipe users, and wondered if anyones gone to the
trouble of writing a "cookbook"/"cheat sheet"/"how to" for the software.  If
you would be prepared to share that with me (informally) I would be most
grateful.

Thanks,
	 Mike
___________________________________________________________________________
ASTRA CHARNWOOD
Physical & Metabolic Sciences, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH,
England
Tel: +44 (0)1509 644140   Fax: +44 (0)1509 645576
Michael.Bernstein@...