Clueless,

At 08:11 PM 2/29/2004, you wrote:
>I can't for the life of me remember how to move my quicklist over to
>the left side of the window.  I've looked everywhere.

Go to OPTIONS>CLIPBOOK and select dock right side. When the Clipbook moves to
the right side, the quick list moves to the left side.

>
>Isn't there a special list for newbies to ask dumb questions?

This is it.


Regards,

Jim

Thanks for all the helpful replies to my last couple of posts.
Here's one more:

I've got a "Save Document" button on my NTP toolbar -- it looks like
a little floppy disk -- and when I click it it saves my new files to
the NTP program folder.  Not what I had in mind.

Is there I way I can configure that button so it will ask me which
folder I want to save a new file in, and then show me a browsing
window of my D: drive (where I store all my data files) so I can
select the appropriate folder?

Lee:

The file that contains user defined words is:
C:\Program Files\NoteTab Pro\Dictionaries\Default.udt
or equivalent depending on how installed.

It appears to have a format like this:
[Added]
IGN_ListCount=597
IGN_0=16Mb
IGN_1=20th
IGN_2=2Gb
IGN_3=3d
IGN_4=500K
IGN_5=5MB
...
IGN_594=Y2K
IGN_595=yorgurt
IGN_596=ZipMagic

If its just a few hundred I might just spell-check the list of words you
want added and accept each one by one which should do the job.

If you want to automated it a bit you could ...
(1) Edit the default.udt file (copy it into another buffer)
(2) Use regex find replace to strip all the IGN_nn= at the beginning of each
line
(3) Append your new words list to the end of whatever you already have.
(4) Sort alphabetically ascending
(5) Use Perlscript Perl Num lines (in Sample clips) to number all lines in
your buffer
(6) Use regex find-replace to change the format back to what it was
originally
(7) Put this back in the default.udt file (having made a backup first !
:-) )
(8) Fix up the IGN_ListCount= line
(9) Save the file
(10) Test by spell checking your additions file
DONE!

or try to create a clip to do it more automagically and/or join the clips
list  for assistence http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ntb-clips/

good luck

Regards ... Alec
--

---- Original Message ----
From: "Lee Underwood" <tns@...>
To: "NoteTab-General" <notetab@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 00:29
Subject: [gla: [NTB] Adding to User Defined Dictionaries

> How can I add (or merge) a plain text file with a list of words,
> together with the user defined dictionary in NoteTab Pro? I am trying
> to combine a list of words (several hundred) into the spelling
> dictionary.

--- In notetab@yahoogroups.com, "Clueless in Seattle"
<clueless_seattle@y...> wrote:
> I've got a "Save Document" button on my NTP toolbar -- it looks
like
> a little floppy disk -- and when I click it it saves my new files
to
> the NTP program folder.  Not what I had in mind.
>
> Is there I way I can configure that button so it will ask me which
> folder I want to save a new file in, and then show me a browsing
> window of my D: drive (where I store all my data files) so I can
> select the appropriate folder?


You can go to VIEW/OPTIONS and then on the FILES tab, near the
bottom, set D:\ as your default save to directory.

Myself I prefer to enable the checkbox just above it called "Match
Directory".

You can do more sophisticated things with clips, but of course this
is the wrong forum to go into detail about them.

John

Hi Clueless,

I also use John's suggestion (enable the checkbox just above it called "Match
Directory").  That's quite handy.  Setting the D drive as default may be
useful too.

To get a browsable window every time, however, why not select "Save as"
instead of "Save".  You can invoke "Save as" by pressing Ctrl+Shift+S

HTH

Ray Shapp

Hi Clueless,

I should have added that you can invoke "Save as" another way by
right-clicking on the file's tab.

Ray Shapp

At 01:39 AM 3/2/04 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Clueless,
>
>I should have added that you can invoke "Save as" another way by
>right-clicking on the file's tab.
>
>Ray Shapp

I only use "Save as" when I want another copy of the file in a different
location from the original or under another name.  If you use "Save as" on
a new unsave file, I guess it is ok but if you forget and use it on a
previously saved file, you can end up with a bunch of copies of the same
file and lose track of some of them.  The original is not overwritten or
deleted unless you happen to select it in the "Save as" dialog or you
manually delete it.

Regards,

Larry
lrt@... e¿ê

At 02:35 AM 03/02/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>At 01:39 AM 3/2/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi Clueless,
> >
> >I should have added that you can invoke "Save as" another way by
> >right-clicking on the file's tab.
> >
> >Ray Shapp
>
>I only use "Save as" when I want another copy of the file in a different
>location from the original or under another name.  If you use "Save as" on
>a new unsave file, I guess it is ok but if you forget and use it on a
>previously saved file, you can end up with a bunch of copies of the same
>file and lose track of some of them.  The original is not overwritten or
>deleted unless you happen to select it in the "Save as" dialog or you
>manually delete it.
>
>Regards,
>
>Larry

That's SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) for every Windows program that I
am aware of - Mac and Linux, too. In fact, I know of none that don't do it
that way.

Cheers,
Tom

Hi,
How do I move Notetab Pro from one computer to another? I'd like to get it
off of my home computer, where I hardly ever use it, onto my work
computer, where I now have Notetab Light. If I remember correctly, I am
not allowed to have two copies running on separate computers.

Thanks.

Jim

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NoteTab has a 'Save As...' button. Add it to the toolbar and set your
working directory to 'd:\'.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clueless in Seattle" <clueless_seattle@...>
To: <notetab@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 17:05
Subject: [NTB] Make "Save" button ask where to put file?


> Thanks for all the helpful replies to my last couple of posts.
> Here's one more:
>
> I've got a "Save Document" button on my NTP toolbar -- it looks like
> a little floppy disk -- and when I click it it saves my new files to
> the NTP program folder.  Not what I had in mind.
>
> Is there I way I can configure that button so it will ask me which
> folder I want to save a new file in, and then show me a browsing
> window of my D: drive (where I store all my data files) so I can
> select the appropriate folder?

Does the trial version of Note Tab Pro allow outline creation
or just reading?

I noticed I can read Outlines but I cannot create them.

I tried the Free version first before I realized that
it only allowed reading of Outlines. Is it possible
the remnants of teh Free version corrupted the Pro
version?

It seems like a great program.

And what does, if I can piggy-back another question,
does 32k paragraph limitation in Pro really mean?

Does it mean if I have a 1 MB file without any
paragraphy breaks, the Pro version cannot load
this particular file? This is unlikely except
in the case of a quasi-binary file and one
or two files of text that just might not have
a paragraph break, as weird as that seems.

Thanks

At 05:42 PM 3/2/04 -0000, you wrote:
>Does the trial version of Note Tab Pro allow outline creation
>or just reading?
>
>I noticed I can read Outlines but I cannot create them.
>
>I tried the Free version first before I realized that
>it only allowed reading of Outlines. Is it possible
>the remnants of teh Free version corrupted the Pro
>version?
>
>It seems like a great program.

The trial version allows you to create outline files at least it did when I
had it four years ago.

>And what does, if I can piggy-back another question,
>does 32k paragraph limitation in Pro really mean?
>
>Does it mean if I have a 1 MB file without any
>paragraphy breaks, the Pro version cannot load
>this particular file? This is unlikely except
>in the case of a quasi-binary file and one
>or two files of text that just might not have
>a paragraph break, as weird as that seems.
>
>Thanks

NoteTab will automatically break up lines containing more than 32 k total
character by adding a hard break at that limit or there abouts.  It will
place the break based on the nearest punctuation to that size.  If you go
to the View/Options panel and select the advanced tab, NoteTab will allow
you to increase the default paragraph size beyond 32 k but you may find
yourself paying a price in the form of slower loads, searches, and other
text processing invoiving clips.

Regards,

Larry
lrt@... e¿ê

Hi Lee,

>How can I add (or merge) a plain text file with a list of words,
>together with the user defined dictionary in NoteTab Pro? I am
>trying to combine a list of words (several hundred) into the
>spelling dictionary.

In some versions back large .udt dictionaries slowed down the
opening or closing of the spelling checker tremendously, but I
have not run into the problem lately.

I have either a Library or Snatch-A-Clip called Edit.udt. If you
open your UDT file in NoteTab I believe you can just add your
list to the bottom of it (above [Auto Correct]) and then click on
the Edit udt Clip. It should reformat and renumber everything for
you. You can also delete lines of existing words that you no
longer want in the dictionary. In fact, that is what I originally
built it for. There is a Clip called "DeleteLine" that makes it
easy to just move your cursor to lines that you want deleted.
Once you delete the first line you can place your cursor on the
next line you want deleted and then press Ctrl+Spacebar to
execute the Deleteline Clip again.

If you need to discuss the Library, please write me in private
eMail. I will not reply to any mail on this list about it. I
don't mean to sound rude, but some people don't seem to
understand please don't reply on this list.
mailto:kjv-av1611@...

http://www.notetab.net/html/library.htm
Try: http://www.notetab.net/zip/editudt.zip


See ya in the funnies,
Jody Adair, Prov. 15:15

Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves
   for they shall never cease to be amused.
        http://www.clean-funnies.com

Hi Jim,

Please write me at: jody@... Thanks!

>How do I move Notetab Pro from one computer to another? I'd like
>to get it off of my home computer, where I hardly ever use it,
>onto my work computer, where I now have Notetab Light. If I
>remember correctly, I am not allowed to have two copies running
>on separate computers.


Sincerely,
Jody Adair

NoteTab Text and HTML Editors
MailBag Assistant; image software...
http://www.fookes.com/regnow.html?2448&item=home

Our CDs are loaded software and extra help!
http://www.notetab.net/html/cd-info.htm
http://www.notetab.net/html/onthiscd.htm

My NoteTabbers Assistant Page
Clips, Libraries, Outlines, and more...
http://www.notetab.net

A long, long time ago, when we were all young, Jody posted a list of
places where one could download tiny icons for free, for use of NT's
toolbar.  Does anyone have the list, or does anyone know where we can
find icons like that?

I can probably find it in the Help file, but what are the size
specifications for icons for the NTP toolbar?

Thanks.
David.

Hi, I'm new to notetab and one of the reasons I would like to use it
is as a log.  I would like to insert the current date and time each
time I copy something to the pasteboard.  I'm sure that must be
possible, but I'm not quite sure how.  Thank you for any assistance
you can offer.

Linda

Hi Linda,

At 01:10 PM 3/3/04 -0000, you wrote:
>Hi, I'm new to notetab and one of the reasons I would like to use it
>is as a log.  I would like to insert the current date and time each
>time I copy something to the pasteboard.  I'm sure that must be
>possible, but I'm not quite sure how.  Thank you for any assistance
>you can offer.
>
>Linda

Go to the menu bar and select Help/Help Topics.  Now go down the outline
list displayed and select How To/Keep a Log.

FROM THE HELP FILE:
===================
You can keep a log by using the same method as Notepad. Just add ".LOG" on
the first line (without the quotation marks) and every time you open such a
document, the editor will append the current date and time (as specified by
your computer's clock).There is an option that lets you configure the
format for the date and time text that is pasted with the corresponding
command. The Date and Time filters topic gives you all the codes you can
use to build a filter.

END OF HELP INFORMATION:
=======================

Regards,

Larry
lrt@... e¿ê

djust wrote:
> A long, long time ago, when we were all young, Jody posted a list of
> places where one could download tiny icons for free, for use of NT's
> toolbar.  Does anyone have the list, or does anyone know where we can
> find icons like that?


http://www.notetab.net/html/clipbar.htm#A04

18 x 18

--- In notetab@yahoogroups.com, "John Zeman" <john041650@y...> wrote:

> You can go to VIEW/OPTIONS and then on the FILES tab, near the
> bottom, set D:\ as your default save to directory.
>
> Myself I prefer to enable the checkbox just above it called "Match
> Directory".

What does "Match Directory" do?

If I create a new file, then which directory would the "Save" command
choose for a "match"?

> You can do more sophisticated things with clips, but of course this
> is the wrong forum to go into detail about them.

And we know what happens to those foolhardy enough to drift off-topic
here don't we?

--- In notetab@yahoogroups.com, "John Zeman" <john041650@y...> wrote:

> You can go to VIEW/OPTIONS and then on the FILES tab, near the
> bottom, set D:\ as your default save to directory.
>
> Myself I prefer to enable the checkbox just above it called "Match
> Directory".

Well, I changed to "Match Directory" and then created a file I wanted
to save in my "Politics, Religion and Philosophy" folder, after I
clicked the "Save" button on the toolbar, and then did a search, I
found the file in my "D:\Computers" directory.

So we're getting closer, but still no cigar.

Is there a way to get my toolbar "Save" button to invoke "Save As..."?

Or perhaps I'm going at this from the wrong direction.  When I click
on the "New Document" button is there a way to get it to ask me which
folder to put the file in?

Here's and easy one:

I set the background color for my Quicklist to what looks
like "cream" on my screen (top row, second from left on the color
chart).

But now when I add a filename to the Quicklist, the background color
for the filename only comes up as grey.  The rest of the blank area
on the Quicklist remains cream colored.

How do I get the background for the filenames in the Quicklist to
match the rest of the Quicklist background?

OK, scratch all of the above.  Let's start over.

I've monkeyed around with the "Save Document" and "Save as..."
buttons on my toolbar and it finally hit me how to describe what it
is I want:

      I want the "Save" button on my NTP toolbar to behave like
the "Save" button on my Word 97 toolbar, i.e., like this:

      1.  I click the "Save" button the first time after creating a
new file, it will open the browsing window allowing me to name the
file and select or create a folder to place it in.


      2.  Thereafter, each time I click the "Save" button, it will
automatically re-save the file under the previously selected filename
and folder name.

So, can I get the "Save" button in NTP to work like the "Save" button
in Word 97?

If not, on which list should I post a request to have this feature
added to the next release of NTP?

Jody,
Is this on your site or NoteTab's?
I am also editing my files to correct misspelled Sanskrit translations.  It
would be easier to use this utility than the importation I did into Excel.
Thanks,
Christine

-----Original Message-----
From: Jody [mailto:kjv-av1611@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 02.19 PM
To: notetab@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [NTB] Adding to User Defined Dictionaries

...
I have either a Library or Snatch-A-Clip called Edit.udt. If you
open your UDT file in NoteTab I believe you can just add your
list to the bottom of it (above [Auto Correct]) and then click on
the Edit udt Clip. It should reformat and renumber everything for
you. You can also delete lines of existing words that you no
longer want in the dictionary. In fact, that is what I originally
built it for. There is a Clip called "DeleteLine" that makes it
easy to just move your cursor to lines that you want deleted.
Once you delete the first line you can place your cursor on the
next line you want deleted and then press Ctrl+Spacebar to
execute the Deleteline Clip again.
...

clueless in seattle wrote:
>I set the background color for my Quicklist to what looks
>like "cream" on my screen (top row, second from left on the color
>chart).
>
>But now when I add a filename to the Quicklist, the background color
>for the filename only comes up as grey.  The rest of the blank area
>on the Quicklist remains cream colored.


Hi clueless,

Long time no see. Welcome back. :-)
What you describe only happens to me if I set my display to 256 colors. Could
that be it, or some other display problem?

Lotta

--- In notetab@yahoogroups.com, "clueless in seattle"
<clueless_seattle@y...> wrote:
>
>      I want the "Save" button on my NTP toolbar to behave like
> the "Save" button on my Word 97 toolbar, i.e., like this:
>
>      1.  I click the "Save" button the first time after creating a
> new file, it will open the browsing window allowing me to name the
> file and select or create a folder to place it in.
>
>
>      2.  Thereafter, each time I click the "Save" button, it will
> automatically re-save the file under the previously selected
filename
> and folder name.
>
> So, can I get the "Save" button in NTP to work like the "Save"
button
> in Word 97?


I must not be understanding you correctly clueless, for what you're
asking for IS the default behavior of the "Save" command (including
saving by way of the toolbar icon).

What are you seeing that I don't?

"Match Directory" just means NoteTab will use the directory of your
current active document, as the default directory for any additional
documents you want to open.  That is, if you have a file from
D:\Documents open and active in NoteTab, if you click Open again,
you'll be in the D:\Documents directory.  If you switch to another
open file in NoteTab that's in another directory, then that directory
becomes the default.  In other words, it kind of follows you around,
wherever your current active document is stored, will be the default
directory for opening other files.

John

--- In notetab@yahoogroups.com, loro <loro-spam01-@t...> wrote:

> Hi clueless,
>
> Long time no see. Welcome back. :-)

Thanks!  Nice to be back, and nice to find you still here!  I was
homeless for a year an a half and so had to use library computers for
all my work.  But after quite a struggle and even a lawsuit I'm
finally ensconced in a public housing apartment and on Social
Security disability benefits.  Still having trouble managing to
figure out how to make the small monthly check stretch to cover all
my expenses but I'm learning (First lesson:  never buy anything
unless you absolutely can't survive without it).

> What you describe only happens to me if I set my display to 256
colors. Could that be it, or some other display problem?

Bingo!  I'm running my old NTP 4.86c on a hand-me-down laptop, that
like me has good days and bad days, and I just changed the display to
High Color 16 bit and now the filenames display perfectly.

Thanks!

> >How do I move Notetab Pro from one computer to another? I'd like
> >to get it off of my home computer, where I hardly ever use it,
> >onto my work computer, where I now have Notetab Light. If I
> >remember correctly, I am not allowed to have two copies running
> >on separate computers.

Actually that's a pretty standard rule for most non-freeware programs.
Luckily I learned from my experience that NoteTab is pretty transportable
and if you copy the whole NoteTab directory from one location to another it
will most likely work. It's always worked for me.

Mind you, the best way is to just re-install it. You DID save the setup
program when you first unlocked the "wrapper" program, didn't you? But as I
said, the other way works almost as well.

-Sean

Hi Folks
Non comprendo!

I still struggle with wrd wrap (affects the display) and wrap to column
(adds CR/line feed for printer) and wrap to window, but can't seem to make
any sense of it!

1) I'm typing a doc and all is perfect on the display. After printing, I
get several normal paragraphs and then a one liner corresponding to a
truncated para. that goes out to a margin a mile or two to the right (a
wide window?) Ok, I may have typed in a few invisible ctl characters!!! How
do I get rid of 'em? I can't fix it as it looks ok on the screen. So I add
a hard return somewhere in the first line and get a normal line followed by
a short line and the rest of the para prints normally. Not pretty!

2) probably related to (1): I'm editing a para by adding a line or so and
the line I'm on grows out to the right to the margin of the window and
wraps to the next line, leaving a long line and a short one in the text.
(This is probably a CR added by wrap to col. in my earlier attempts to fix
it) I keep one eye on the col/line counter. The long line ends at 79/116,
80/116 (line 116) and continues on the short line 80/1, 80/2, 80/3 ....!!!!
(Odd numbering convention!)

Documents, properties says: Wrd wrap ON, Wrap to col. 92 OFF (92 is the
print width using Times Roman)
View, options, docs says: Wrd wrap ON, Wrap to col. 75 OFF (75 likely left
over from page width Courier New)
Presumably line 80 is the width of the window on screen? (close enough to
be true).

3) I'm typing, the screen is perfect. I print and every line is short a few
words (words missing at end of every line)  - too many words per line for
the printer! So I guess I set Wrap to col and the screen puts the overflow
on the next line, so I get a full line, short line, full line, short line
etc on screen. Then I guess I try Modify, lines, join lines and I get one
line per paragraph, each line a mile or so long! Some times it does
nothing, so I select the whole doc with Ctl A  and Modify... join lines
again. Looooong lines appear...I tend to give up at this point!

At the end of the day N_T_free does wonderful things that The Evil
Emperor's WP doesn't. It is a jewel! Keep up the good work!   Cheers,
Clueless.

This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or received
it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed
are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of
their organisation.

John:

If you are using Notetab Pro then View/Show nonprinting will display tabs
and hard <CR>'s so at least you can be sure what you are dealing with.

Regarding hard wrap vs. soft wrap - if you use empty lines to separate
paragraphs the easiest way I've found to handle it is to use select-ALL,
then JOIN lines as you said, followed by then using SPLIT lines (again with
whole "file" selected) which should wrap to the window width.

This will screw up lines that are deliberately short (eg. lists of items)
though.

Even if you're using notetab light and don't have "Show nonprinting"
available you can use a workaround ...
before doing the JOIN do a Replace with Regexp checked and
Find: [^#]$    <-- use any char that doesn't appear in the text for "#"
Replace: &#

this will put a "#" on the end of every line so you can see what you've got.
To get rid of them just:
Find: #$
Replace: <nothing>

If you do have deliberately short lines variations on the above can be used
to "protect" short lines. ie. put the "#",s on the end where required then
do the JOIN, then replace the "#"'s by ^P's (hard linebreaks) then do the
SPLIT

If this still doesn't help with printing, maybe its some bug with your
printer?

Regards ... Alec
--

---- Original Message ----
From: <john.crichton@...>
To: <notetab@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 01:01
Subject: [gla: [NTB] Re:Word wrapping & such

> Hi Folks
> Non comprendo!
>
> I still struggle with wrd wrap (affects the display) and wrap to
> column (adds CR/line feed for printer) and wrap to window, but can't
> seem to make any sense of it!
>
> 1) I'm typing a doc and all is perfect on the display. After
> printing, I get several normal paragraphs and then a one liner
> corresponding to a truncated para. that goes out to a margin a mile
> or two to the right (a wide window?) Ok, I may have typed in a few
> invisible ctl characters!!! How do I get rid of 'em? I can't fix it
> as it looks ok on the screen. So I add a hard return somewhere in the
> first line and get a normal line followed by a short line and the
> rest of the para prints normally. Not pretty!
>
> 2) probably related to (1): I'm editing a para by adding a line or so
> and the line I'm on grows out to the right to the margin of the
> window and wraps to the next line, leaving a long line and a short
> one in the text. (This is probably a CR added by wrap to col. in my
> earlier attempts to fix it) I keep one eye on the col/line counter.
> The long line ends at 79/116, 80/116 (line 116) and continues on the
> short line 80/1, 80/2, 80/3 ....!!!! (Odd numbering convention!)
>
> Documents, properties says: Wrd wrap ON, Wrap to col. 92 OFF (92 is
> the print width using Times Roman)
> View, options, docs says: Wrd wrap ON, Wrap to col. 75 OFF (75 likely
> left over from page width Courier New)
> Presumably line 80 is the width of the window on screen? (close
> enough to be true).
>
> 3) I'm typing, the screen is perfect. I print and every line is short
> a few words (words missing at end of every line)  - too many words
> per line for the printer! So I guess I set Wrap to col and the screen
> puts the overflow on the next line, so I get a full line, short line,
> full line, short line etc on screen. Then I guess I try Modify,
> lines, join lines and I get one line per paragraph, each line a mile
> or so long! Some times it does nothing, so I select the whole doc
> with Ctl A  and Modify... join lines again. Looooong lines appear...I
> tend to give up at this point!
>
> At the end of the day N_T_free does wonderful things that The Evil
> Emperor's WP doesn't. It is a jewel! Keep up the good work!   Cheers,
> Clueless.
>
> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
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> received it in error, please delete the message and notify sender.
> Views expressed are those of the individual sender and are not
> necessarily the views of their organisation.
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi John,

At 05:01 PM 3/4/04 +1100, you wrote:
>
>Hi Folks
>Non comprendo!
>
>I still struggle with wrd wrap (affects the display) and wrap to column
>(adds CR/line feed for printer) and wrap to window, but can't seem to make
>any sense of it!

I assume you are using NoteTab Light/Std.  This program appears to have a
bug in the Wrap to Column feature which works just fine in NoteTab Pro.  I
have Pro and rarely use Light/Std.  When I do, I leave the Wrap to Column
setting off and I leave the Column number blank and it seems to work ok.

>1) I'm typing a doc and all is perfect on the display. After printing, I
>get several normal paragraphs and then a one liner corresponding to a
>truncated para. that goes out to a margin a mile or two to the right (a
>wide window?) Ok, I may have typed in a few invisible ctl characters!!! How
>do I get rid of 'em? I can't fix it as it looks ok on the screen. So I add
>a hard return somewhere in the first line and get a normal line followed by
>a short line and the rest of the para prints normally. Not pretty!

As you have guessed, the word wrap is doing this.

>2) probably related to (1): I'm editing a para by adding a line or so and
>the line I'm on grows out to the right to the margin of the window and
>wraps to the next line, leaving a long line and a short one in the text.
>(This is probably a CR added by wrap to col. in my earlier attempts to fix
>it) I keep one eye on the col/line counter. The long line ends at 79/116,
>80/116 (line 116) and continues on the short line 80/1, 80/2, 80/3 ....!!!!
>(Odd numbering convention!)

The number convention is the line number followed by the column number.
You can tell this by placing your cursor at the beginning of a line and
then cursor down and up and watch the line number change on the left side
of the colon.  Then cursor left and right and watch the column number
change on the right side of the colon.  So 80:1 means the first character
position in line 80, 79:116 means the 116th character position in line 79,
etc.

>Documents, properties says: Wrd wrap ON, Wrap to col. 92 OFF (92 is the
>print width using Times Roman)
>View, options, docs says: Wrd wrap ON, Wrap to col. 75 OFF (75 likely left
>over from page width Courier New)
>Presumably line 80 is the width of the window on screen? (close enough to
>be true).

The normal width of the screen is generally 80 characters but it is
definitely affected by the font size.  You can see this by making yourself
a test document.  Copy text from another document to a new document and
then change the font size on the new document.  Larger sizes will fill the
screen with fewer characters than smaller font sizes.  The different font
styles also affect the number of characters per line.  In NoteTab Light/Std
unlike Pro, you can use variable width True Type fonts and the character
spacing is (of coarse!!) variable in width which again affects how many
characters are displayed on each line.  Some letters in this case such as
"i" or "l" take up less horizontal space than "m" or "w" so a line made up
of twenty l's will be shorter than a line made up of twenty w's.  You can
try it and see.  If you have a fixed width font though, the l's and w's in
their respective lines will take up the same space.  You can show yourself
this by typing a line of twenty l's and directly below that typing a line
of twenty w's and then changing the font to a fixed width font such as
"Courier New".  You will see the two lines are the same length.  Now change
the font to "Times Roman".  You can also see the effect of size changes
this way by changing them and observing.  That is why I general prefer to
use fixed width fonts and NoteTab Pro (which cannot use the variable width
fonts anyway).

>3) I'm typing, the screen is perfect. I print and every line is short a few
>words (words missing at end of every line)  - too many words per line for
>the printer! So I guess I set Wrap to col and the screen puts the overflow
>on the next line, so I get a full line, short line, full line, short line
>etc on screen. Then I guess I try Modify, lines, join lines and I get one
>line per paragraph, each line a mile or so long! Some times it does
>nothing, so I select the whole doc with Ctl A  and Modify... join lines
>again. Looooong lines appear...I tend to give up at this point!

Everything you describe here appears to be most likely due to the formatted
document except the place wher the long line is truncated on the left side.
  There, you should check your printers settings which appear on my system
when I select the File/Print menu item.  On the margin tab of that item I
have an item labeled "Word Wrap" and I have it checked.  If it is not
checked, then any long lines extending beyond the right margin will be
truncated and will not be printed.  This is the printer setting not
NoteTab's setting.

As for the Wrap to Column feature and the other features, You should be
aware that NoteTab handles these items in a general default setting for all
new documents and in a custom setting for specefic individual documents and
this can cause confusion when you want to make changes.

You should make your changes first to the View/Options menu item on the
Document tab.  Then you make changes to any individual document on the
Document/Properties menu item.

I have unchecked the Wrap to Column box and when that is done, the number
to the right of it no longer matters.  That number is only applicable if
the Wap to Column box is checked and then it determines where the word wrap
will take place.  The bug appears in that the word wrap will not reformat
if I have it set to -- say 45 and it is wrapped to column 45 then I change
it to 70.  It will not reformat to 70 unless I reload the document.  Eric
is not fixing bugs on NoteTab right now so Judy has told me to hold my
report until he starts beta testing version 5.  So I just don't use Wrap to
Column.  When Wrap to Colum of not checked that the normal feature of
wrapping to the visible screen works just fine - no problems.

I hope that this helps you figure it out.

Regards,

Larry
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