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#13746 From: Brad Lufkin <bradley.lufkin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:57 am
Subject: Re: Eclipse Formatter
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I've searched high and low within the formatter and have found nothing. Can you be more specific? And thanks for the pointer to Jalopy.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:14 AM, <lhsamad@...> wrote:
 

You can go to preferences and set it up there, just search formatting. Or, you could install Jalopy to do it for you:

http://jalopy.sourceforge.net/

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Brad Lufkin <bradley.lufkin@...> wrote:
 

Is there any way to disable Eclipse formatting for a specific block of code? I like to align certain statements in my own way and the formatter overrides this. I have in mind something like this:

     foo.method(a,b,100);
     bar.method(c,d,     0);

For clarity, I want the "100" and the "0" to be right-justified, but the formatter removes the extra spaces (the cases I have in mind are far more complex). Ideas?
Brad





--
"Even if one does not attain everything, one does not abandon everything. And do not abandon what is easy because of what is difficult."

Luqman Samad (Luke)


#13745 From: "KeithB" <keithrbennett@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:56 am
Subject: Chantilly/Herndon Java Lunch Meeting
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All -

On Monday, November 16th, we will have an informal Java discussion
lunch meeting, from noon until about 1:00.

We do this on odd Mondays of the month (1st, 3rd, and 5th, if there is
a 5th).

Feel free to join us.

Here's the location:

Lotte Plaza Food Court
13955 Metrotech Dr
Chantilly, VA
(703) 488-6600

The food court is at the extreme right rear of the store. You need to
go to the extreme right of the store as soon after entering as you
can, then turn left.

There is varied and inexpensive Korean, Korean-Chinese, Japanese, and
Vietnamese food there, with some vegetarian options, and there is an
excellent ready-to-eat sushi take out concession in the supermarket
area. You can probably even bring your lunch if you like.

- Keith

#13744 From: lhsamad@...
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: Eclipse Formatter
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You can go to preferences and set it up there, just search formatting. Or, you could install Jalopy to do it for you:

http://jalopy.sourceforge.net/

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Brad Lufkin <bradley.lufkin@...> wrote:
 

Is there any way to disable Eclipse formatting for a specific block of code? I like to align certain statements in my own way and the formatter overrides this. I have in mind something like this:

     foo.method(a,b,100);
     bar.method(c,d,     0);

For clarity, I want the "100" and the "0" to be right-justified, but the formatter removes the extra spaces (the cases I have in mind are far more complex). Ideas?
Brad





--
"Even if one does not attain everything, one does not abandon everything. And do not abandon what is easy because of what is difficult."

Luqman Samad (Luke)

#13743 From: Raghuveer Rao <raghuveer_rao@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Grails with Passion
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I was glad to see the email on Grails with passion from David.
I remember we had a J2EE with Passion class in NovaJug in 2002 /2003.
Sang Shin had great material online and he was always prompt in answering emails and questions.
He even sent us a speaker for NovaJug.

I also wanted to give a shout out to David and flocks at FGM who had provided the room for the classes then.

For anyone out there planning to attend this class online I can assure you that it will be a positive learning experience.

Thanks

Raghu

 


#13742 From: David Bock <dbock@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:06 am
Subject: Groovy and Grails with Passion
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A long time ago our JUG ran several courses from Sang Shin - "Java
with Passion".

He's at it again, this time with "Groovy and Grails with Passion".
Its a free online course.  Here are the details:

---

The 1st session of "Groovy and Grails Programming (with
Passion!)" online course will start from Jan. 10th, 2010.

The course contents are still being worked on and will
be updated as we move along.
For more detailed information on the course, please see
the following

Course topics: http://www.javapassion.com/groovyandgrails/#Topics
Course website: http://www.javapassion.com/groovyandgrails
Course FAQ: http://www.javapassion.com/coursefaq.html

This course runs very much like a regular college course
in which the students are expected to do weekly homework
after studying the learning material and doing the hands-on
lab but it is free and can be taken online. There is also
class email alias where students can ask/answer questions.

Please feel free to forward this email out to anyone who
might be interested. Thanks much.

-Sang Shin

#13741 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: So, Google is evil -- Well, being evil benefited for M. Fleury
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For the record I liked Marc. And not just because bought my dinner once in
Antwerp at Javapolis. His presentation there was really good. He gave it while
wearing a mask because the conference sponsors forced the organizers to
dis-invite him.

Gray

--- In novajug@yahoogroups.com, "jawabean" <jawabean@...> wrote:
>
> --- In novajug@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. Bain" <paulbain@> wrote:
> >
> > Who says that wrong-doing does not
> > pay? If you think that wrong-doing does not pay, how can you explain
> > Fleury's fate?
>
> Fleury's "wrong"/"right" ratio is low. All his "wrong" was to flaming. It's
relatively innocent compared to what M$ did and got indicted for.
>
> His "right" was huge. Whether you like Fleury or not, jBoss changed the
landscape of app server market. I hate jBoss, btw :)
>
> On "Go" - my first reaction was "Oh, no, not another Ruby, please!"
> Then I found out that Rob Pike and Ken Thompson are its authors, and that
Inferno had a big influence on Go. These two facts are important for me, so I'm
going to look at Go some time later. If anything, this isn't "another Ruby",
this seems to be the real deal.
>

#13740 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: Next Meeting is Tuesday
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I apologize. I just posted the information.  You can see the registration page
here:

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/489061797

Gray

--- In novajug@yahoogroups.com, Radhakrishnan Kunnath <rkkunnath@...> wrote:
>
> Gray,
>
> I am new to this area. Can you please give me the exact locatation where the
meeting is scheduled ?
>
> -RK
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: gherter <gherter@...>
> To: novajug@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:32:59 PM
> Subject: [novajug] Next Meeting is Tuesday
>
>  
> Mark your calendar. The next meeting will be Tuesday night at FGM.
>
> Scott Leberknight on Polyglot Persistence
>
> I will try to post the registration, blog entries tonight.
>
> Gray
>
> --- In novajug@yahoogroups .com, "gherter" <gherter@ > wrote:
> >
> > FYI, we have a meeting for next week. I will post something the registration
when I find out one last detail (which day next week)!
> >
> > The speaker is Scott Leberknight on Polyglot Persistence, which is one of
his no fluff talks.
> >
> > After that, it looks like we have Erik Hatcher on Solr and Lucene (Dec
16th). Erik is doing that talk next week at Devoxx, so it should be a good one.
> >
> > We even have meetings set up for Jan, Feb and March making this a record for
planning ahead, even if I haven't got all of the info for next week, yet. ;^)
> >
> > Gray
> >
>

#13739 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:58 pm
Subject: Next Meeting Nov 17: Polyglot Persistence by Scott Leberknight
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Our next meeting will be on Nov 17th, and feature Scott Leberknight presenting
Polyglot Persistence.  Pizza and sodas will be provided by Scott's company, Near
Infinity.

Please register here:

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/489061797

Please note the 6:30 time. We have a training event during the day at FGM, and I
want to give them plenty of time to clear out so we can reset the room if we
have to.

Polyglot Persistence presented by Scott Leberknight

Polyglot persistence is all about considering your persistence requirements and
selecting a persistence mechanism that best mets those requirements, as opposed
to selecting an RDBMS as the default choice. In this session we'll look at some
of the persistence alternatives that are available like Amazon SimpleDB,
CouchDB, Google Bigtable, and more. In late 2006 Neal Ford wrote about Polyglot
Programming and predicted the wave of language choice we are now seeing in the
industry to use the right language for the specific job at hand. Instead of
assuming a "default" language like Java or C# and then warring over the many
different available frameworks, polyglot programming is all about using the
right language for the job rather than just the right framework(s). Paralleling
Neal's description of polyglot programming, a relational database is often the
accepted and default choice for persistence. Sometimes this is due to the fact
that organizations have standardized on RDBMS systems and there isn't even any
other choice. Other times it is simply what we're used to doing, and possibly we
don't even consider alternatives. But now, with things like Amazon SimpleDB,
Google Bigtable, Microsoft SQL Server Data Services (SSDS), CouchDB, and lots
more, we're now seeing the beginning of Polyglot Persistence in addition to
polyglot programming.

#13738 From: Brad Lufkin <bradley.lufkin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: Eclipse Formatter
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Ryan:
Yes, I see that. What I want to do, however, is run the formatter but have it ignore code blocks that I select. What I'm getting at is that I want selective formatting--right now, it's all or nothing.
Another issue is that the formatter doesn't seem to distinguish between unary operators (a = - b) and numeric literals or constants (a = -3.14).
Brad

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Ryan Morton <rjmorton@...> wrote:
 

There are a couple of ways this could happen - you likely want to look at 'Save Actions' within eclipse.

1. Window > Preferences
2. Java > Editor > Save Actions
3. You can turn off 'Format Source code' to tell Eclipse not to format it upon save.

Additionally, when you save a document Eclipse will obviously run the Save Actions. If you do a ctrl+z (undo), the code formatting will be reverted but any changes to the document will be preserved.

Ryan





On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Brad Lufkin <bradley.lufkin@...> wrote:
 

Is there any way to disable Eclipse formatting for a specific block of code? I like to align certain statements in my own way and the formatter overrides this. I have in mind something like this:

     foo.method(a,b,100);
     bar.method(c,d,     0);

For clarity, I want the "100" and the "0" to be right-justified, but the formatter removes the extra spaces (the cases I have in mind are far more complex). Ideas?
Brad





--
Ryan Morton
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703-939-7878


#13737 From: Ryan Morton <rjmorton@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Eclipse Formatter
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There are a couple of ways this could happen - you likely want to look at 'Save Actions' within eclipse.

1. Window > Preferences
2. Java > Editor > Save Actions
3. You can turn off 'Format Source code' to tell Eclipse not to format it upon save.

Additionally, when you save a document Eclipse will obviously run the Save Actions. If you do a ctrl+z (undo), the code formatting will be reverted but any changes to the document will be preserved.

Ryan



On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Brad Lufkin <bradley.lufkin@...> wrote:
 

Is there any way to disable Eclipse formatting for a specific block of code? I like to align certain statements in my own way and the formatter overrides this. I have in mind something like this:

     foo.method(a,b,100);
     bar.method(c,d,     0);

For clarity, I want the "100" and the "0" to be right-justified, but the formatter removes the extra spaces (the cases I have in mind are far more complex). Ideas?
Brad





--
Ryan Morton
rjmorton@...
703-939-7878

#13736 From: Radhakrishnan Kunnath <rkkunnath@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:31 am
Subject: Re: Next Meeting is Tuesday
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Gray,
 
I am new to this area. Can you please give me the exact locatation where the meeting is scheduled ?
 
-RK


From: gherter <gherter@...>
To: novajug@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:32:59 PM
Subject: [novajug] Next Meeting is Tuesday

 

Mark your calendar. The next meeting will be Tuesday night at FGM.

Scott Leberknight on Polyglot Persistence

I will try to post the registration, blog entries tonight.

Gray

--- In novajug@yahoogroups .com, "gherter" <gherter@... > wrote:
>
> FYI, we have a meeting for next week. I will post something the registration when I find out one last detail (which day next week)!
>
> The speaker is Scott Leberknight on Polyglot Persistence, which is one of his no fluff talks.
>
> After that, it looks like we have Erik Hatcher on Solr and Lucene (Dec 16th). Erik is doing that talk next week at Devoxx, so it should be a good one.
>
> We even have meetings set up for Jan, Feb and March making this a record for planning ahead, even if I haven't got all of the info for next week, yet. ;^)
>
> Gray
>



#13735 From: Brad Lufkin <bradley.lufkin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:10 am
Subject: Eclipse Formatter
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Is there any way to disable Eclipse formatting for a specific block of code? I like to align certain statements in my own way and the formatter overrides this. I have in mind something like this:

     foo.method(a,b,100);
     bar.method(c,d,     0);

For clarity, I want the "100" and the "0" to be right-justified, but the formatter removes the extra spaces (the cases I have in mind are far more complex). Ideas?
Brad



#13734 From: "jawabean" <jawabean@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:53 am
Subject: Re: So, Google is evil -- Well, being evil benefited for M. Fleury
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--- In novajug@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. Bain" <paulbain@...> wrote:
>
> Who says that wrong-doing does not
> pay? If you think that wrong-doing does not pay, how can you explain
> Fleury's fate?

Fleury's "wrong"/"right" ratio is low. All his "wrong" was to flaming. It's
relatively innocent compared to what M$ did and got indicted for.

His "right" was huge. Whether you like Fleury or not, jBoss changed the
landscape of app server market. I hate jBoss, btw :)

On "Go" - my first reaction was "Oh, no, not another Ruby, please!"
Then I found out that Rob Pike and Ken Thompson are its authors, and that
Inferno had a big influence on Go. These two facts are important for me, so I'm
going to look at Go some time later. If anything, this isn't "another Ruby",
this seems to be the real deal.

#13733 From: "Paul D. Bain" <paulbain@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:50 pm
Subject: Re: So, Google is evil -- Well, being evil benefited for M. Fleury
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gherter wrote:
> http://gigaom.com/2009/10/23/symbian-executives-rips-into-googles-android/
>
> I love this stuff.  It reminds me of old days of Marc Fluery.

Gray,

	 Yeah, Marc Fleury was a nutcase, a braggart, arrogant, and unfairly
critical of open source software -- other than his own, JBoss. But it
worked out well for Fleury, who retired young and rich after Red Hat
acquired his company for millions. Who says that wrong-doing does not
pay? If you think that wrong-doing does not pay, how can you explain
Fleury's fate? Or that of M$ in recent years?

-- Paul Bain

#13732 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:13 pm
Subject: So, Google is evil.
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http://gigaom.com/2009/10/23/symbian-executives-rips-into-googles-android/

I love this stuff.  It reminds me of old days of Marc Fluery.

Gray

#13731 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:36 pm
Subject: Some good advice in Deam Wampler's blog
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Among other things, "go to user groups".

http://blog.polyglotprogramming.com/2009/11/6/cultivateyourcareertoday

I met Dean recently at the Scala Lift Off.

Gray

#13730 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:32 pm
Subject: Next Meeting is Tuesday
gherter
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Mark your calendar. The next meeting will be Tuesday night at FGM.

Scott Leberknight on Polyglot Persistence

I will try to post the registration, blog entries tonight.

Gray

--- In novajug@yahoogroups.com, "gherter" <gherter@...> wrote:
>
> FYI, we have a meeting for next week.  I will post something the registration
when I find out one last detail (which day next week)!
>
> The speaker is Scott Leberknight on Polyglot Persistence, which is one of his
no fluff talks.
>
> After that, it looks like we have Erik Hatcher on Solr and Lucene (Dec 16th).
Erik is doing that talk next week at Devoxx, so it should be a good one.
>
> We even have meetings set up for Jan, Feb and March making this a record for
planning ahead, even if I haven't got all of the info for next week, yet. ;^)
>
> Gray
>

#13729 From: "Ramanand Singh" <rsingh@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:52 pm
Subject: RE: diff between portals
sramanand
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It seems that the selection of a portal server is already made for you.

 

Having a larger market share does not always translate directly to the quality of products or services. Look at Microsoft products.

 

Out of the pack, I would prefer to work with WebLogic Portal or LifeRay Portal if I have the choice.

 

Regards,

- ramanand


From: novajug@yahoogroups.com [mailto:novajug@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Han
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:27 PM
To: novajug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [novajug] diff between portals

 

 

Thanks for your response.  Actually, the reason I ask is because I recently joined a project working on WPS whereas most of my experience has been with Vignette Portal.  And in looking at Gartner, it seems that IBM is the market leader ...

http://www.gartner.com/technology/media-products/reprints/oracle/article95/article95.html

So, I just wanted to get a sense as to whether the products are very different.  Or if the products are pretty much commoditized and are relatively the same (ie. both have ways to manage pages, portlets, grids and styles; developing in JSR 168 and WSRP; personalization via LDAP authentication).

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Ramanand Singh <rsingh@nalandatech.com> wrote:


From: Ramanand Singh <rsingh@nalandatech.com>
Subject: RE: [novajug] diff between portals
To: novajug@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 9:57 PM

 

It is not very clear what you are trying to get answered here. There are so many features in a portal server/engine. It would be easier to provide answer if you had any particular aspect or concern about portal features. I am providing here my overall experience and preference.

 

I have used both commercial (I mean paid products) and open source products. I have architected and created some large portals in both public and private sectors. Based upon my experience with various portal engines/environment s as well as features and standards compliance, I would rank my preferences as follows:

 

Commercial: 1. WebLogic Portal, 2. Vignette Application Portal, 3. WebSphere Portal

 

Open-Source: 1. LifeRay Portal, 2. JBOSS Portal, 3. JetSpeed

 

If you would like to see some example portal applications in production environments, I can point you to a couple of them that are available in the public domain.

 

Regards,

- ramanand


From: novajug@yahoogroups .com [mailto:novajug@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Max Han
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:17 PM
To: novajug@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [novajug] diff between portals

 

 

Hello.

Just wondering if anyone has worked with two or more of the available commercial Portal packages out there?  That is, I am curious to find what are some of the differences between WebSphere Portal, WebLogic Portal, Vignette Portal, JBoss Portal and/or any other J2EE based Portal applications that may exist.  Thanks.

Regards,
Max

 

 

 


#13728 From: "kkalvar" <kkalvar@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:11 pm
Subject: LinkedIn: NoVAJUG
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Just a reminder there is a LinkedIn NoVAJUG Group available.
Group Page: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/1051047

#13727 From: "kkalvar" <kkalvar@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: diff between portals
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We just went through a portal selection process here (if you can call it that). 
I thought it was more of a cluster.  But it was for a government agency and we
just added to the confustion. :-)   I think the big questions here are dependent
on a couple of things:

1.  open source/commerical
2.  cost
3.  performance/features
4.  customer environment

The Oracle WebCenter Interaction we selected was based on plumtree which I
believe they bought sometime back.

They all support various standards such as JSR-168/LDAP integration but how they
do that is usually quite different and you'll probably spend a significant
amount of time (at least on the commercial products) getting everything up and
running.  They typically are a little more complex products.



--- In novajug@yahoogroups.com, Max Han <vpsmax@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your response.  Actually, the reason I ask is because I recently
joined a project working on WPS whereas most of my experience has been with
Vignette Portal.  And in looking at Gartner, it seems that IBM is the market
leader ...
>
>
http://www.gartner.com/technology/media-products/reprints/oracle/article95/artic\
le95.html
>
> So, I just wanted to get a sense as to whether the products are very
different.  Or if the products are pretty much commoditized and are relatively
the same (ie. both have ways to manage pages, portlets, grids and styles;
developing in JSR 168 and WSRP; personalization via LDAP authentication).
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Ramanand Singh <rsingh@...> wrote:
>
> From: Ramanand Singh <rsingh@...>
> Subject: RE: [novajug] diff between portals
> To: novajug@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 9:57 PM
>
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> It is not very clear what you are trying to
> get answered here. There are so many features in a portal server/engine. It
> would be easier to provide answer if you had any particular aspect or concern
> about portal features. I am providing here my overall experience and
> preference.
>
>   
>
> I have used both commercial (I mean paid
> products) and open source products. I have architected and created some large
> portals in both public and private sectors. Based upon my experience with
> various portal engines/environment s as well as features and standards
> compliance, I would rank my preferences as follows:
>
>   
>
> Commercial: 1. WebLogic Portal, 2. Vignette
> Application Portal, 3. WebSphere Portal
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>
> Open-Source: 1. LifeRay Portal, 2. JBOSS
> Portal, 3. JetSpeed
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>
> If you would like to see some example
> portal applications in production environments, I can point you to a couple of
> them that are available in the public domain.
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> Regards,
>
> - ramanand
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> From:
> novajug@yahoogroups .com [mailto:novajug@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Max
Han
>
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009
> 4:17 PM
>
> To: novajug@yahoogroups .com
>
> Subject: [novajug] diff between
> portals
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>   Hello.
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>
>   Just wondering if anyone has worked with two or more of the available
>   commercial Portal packages out there?  That is, I am curious to find
>   what are some of the differences between WebSphere Portal, WebLogic Portal,
>   Vignette Portal, JBoss Portal and/or any other J2EE based Portal
applications
>   that may exist.  Thanks.
>
>
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>   Regards,
>
>   Max
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#13726 From: Max Han <vpsmax@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:26 am
Subject: RE: diff between portals
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Thanks for your response.  Actually, the reason I ask is because I recently joined a project working on WPS whereas most of my experience has been with Vignette Portal.  And in looking at Gartner, it seems that IBM is the market leader ...

http://www.gartner.com/technology/media-products/reprints/oracle/article95/article95.html

So, I just wanted to get a sense as to whether the products are very different.  Or if the products are pretty much commoditized and are relatively the same (ie. both have ways to manage pages, portlets, grids and styles; developing in JSR 168 and WSRP; personalization via LDAP authentication).

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Ramanand Singh <rsingh@...> wrote:

From: Ramanand Singh <rsingh@...>
Subject: RE: [novajug] diff between portals
To: novajug@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 9:57 PM

 

It is not very clear what you are trying to get answered here. There are so many features in a portal server/engine. It would be easier to provide answer if you had any particular aspect or concern about portal features. I am providing here my overall experience and preference.

 

I have used both commercial (I mean paid products) and open source products. I have architected and created some large portals in both public and private sectors. Based upon my experience with various portal engines/environment s as well as features and standards compliance, I would rank my preferences as follows:

 

Commercial: 1. WebLogic Portal, 2. Vignette Application Portal, 3. WebSphere Portal

 

Open-Source: 1. LifeRay Portal, 2. JBOSS Portal, 3. JetSpeed

 

If you would like to see some example portal applications in production environments, I can point you to a couple of them that are available in the public domain.

 

Regards,

- ramanand


From: novajug@yahoogroups .com [mailto:novajug@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Max Han
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:17 PM
To: novajug@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [novajug] diff between portals

 

 

Hello.

Just wondering if anyone has worked with two or more of the available commercial Portal packages out there?  That is, I am curious to find what are some of the differences between WebSphere Portal, WebLogic Portal, Vignette Portal, JBoss Portal and/or any other J2EE based Portal applications that may exist.  Thanks.

Regards,
Max

 

 



#13725 From: "Ramanand Singh" <rsingh@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:57 am
Subject: RE: diff between portals
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It is not very clear what you are trying to get answered here. There are so many features in a portal server/engine. It would be easier to provide answer if you had any particular aspect or concern about portal features. I am providing here my overall experience and preference.

 

I have used both commercial (I mean paid products) and open source products. I have architected and created some large portals in both public and private sectors. Based upon my experience with various portal engines/environments as well as features and standards compliance, I would rank my preferences as follows:

 

Commercial: 1. WebLogic Portal, 2. Vignette Application Portal, 3. WebSphere Portal

 

Open-Source: 1. LifeRay Portal, 2. JBOSS Portal, 3. JetSpeed

 

If you would like to see some example portal applications in production environments, I can point you to a couple of them that are available in the public domain.

 

Regards,

- ramanand


From: novajug@yahoogroups.com [mailto:novajug@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Han
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:17 PM
To: novajug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [novajug] diff between portals

 

 

Hello.

Just wondering if anyone has worked with two or more of the available commercial Portal packages out there?  That is, I am curious to find what are some of the differences between WebSphere Portal, WebLogic Portal, Vignette Portal, JBoss Portal and/or any other J2EE based Portal applications that may exist.  Thanks.

Regards,
Max

 

 


#13724 From: Venkatesh Addanki <v_addanki@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:16 am
Subject: Re: Re: diff between portals
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Liferay is proven and good but JBoss+GateIN is worth consideration.
http://www.jboss.org/gatein

Regards.

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, gherter <gherter@...> wrote:

From: gherter <gherter@...>
Subject: [novajug] Re: diff between portals
To: novajug@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 4:15 PM

 

I have used Liferay before and found it to be a very useful. Basically, I have been on two projects and created a small portlet on both. At that time, they were jsr-168 porlets, but I believe the newest version supports the newer portlet spec. I doubt the commercial ones are much better than Liferay.

Gray

--- In novajug@yahoogroups .com, Max Han <vpsmax@...> wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> Just wondering if anyone has worked with two or more of the available commercial Portal packages out there?  That is, I am curious to find what are some of the differences between WebSphere Portal, WebLogic Portal, Vignette Portal, JBoss Portal and/or any other J2EE based Portal applications that may exist.  Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Max
>


#13723 From: "kembles4" <jeff.kemble@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:19 am
Subject: Getting Datasource password from external source
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Has anyone tried to retrieve the password for a jndi datasource (in JBOSS) from
an external source?  My company maintains many different web-based and
standalone java applications, and managing password changes has become
problematic.  We're looking at ways to  help simplify password updates (without
comprising security).  One idea is to move db passwords to a central database
(or possibly jndi server).  I'm not sure if it's possible to override the
default behaviour of jboss to fetch the password from an external store instead
of the jboss config file.  Has anyone tried this before?

Thanks.

#13722 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:23 pm
Subject: Upcoming Meetings
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FYI, we have a meeting for next week.  I will post something the registration
when I find out one last detail (which day next week)!

The speaker is Scott Leberknight on Polyglot Persistence, which is one of his no
fluff talks.

After that, it looks like we have Erik Hatcher on Solr and Lucene (Dec 16th).
Erik is doing that talk next week at Devoxx, so it should be a good one.

We even have meetings set up for Jan, Feb and March making this a record for
planning ahead, even if I haven't got all of the info for next week, yet. ;^)

Gray

#13721 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: diff between portals
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I have used Liferay before and found it to be a very useful.  Basically, I have
been on two projects and created a small portlet on both. At that time, they
were jsr-168 porlets, but I believe the newest version supports the newer
portlet spec. I doubt the commercial ones are much better than Liferay.

Gray

--- In novajug@yahoogroups.com, Max Han <vpsmax@...> wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> Just wondering if anyone has worked with two or more of the available
commercial Portal packages out there?  That is, I am curious to find what are
some of the differences between WebSphere Portal, WebLogic Portal, Vignette
Portal, JBoss Portal and/or any other J2EE based Portal applications that may
exist.  Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Max
>

#13720 From: lhsamad@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:39 pm
Subject: Java property file editor
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Spring sounds like a very good solution for this. :-)

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"Even if one does not attain everything, one does not abandon everything. And do not abandon what is easy because of what is difficult."

Luqman Samad (Luke)

#13719 From: "Joel Patterson" <joel_patterson@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:22 pm
Subject: Java property file editor
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I’m working with multiple Java property files and would like to create “views” of properties which cross several of the files.   Is there any property editor out there which would allow me to do this?

 

Thanks!


#13718 From: Max Han <vpsmax@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:16 pm
Subject: diff between portals
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Hello.

Just wondering if anyone has worked with two or more of the available commercial Portal packages out there?  That is, I am curious to find what are some of the differences between WebSphere Portal, WebLogic Portal, Vignette Portal, JBoss Portal and/or any other J2EE based Portal applications that may exist.  Thanks.

Regards,
Max



#13717 From: "gherter" <gherter@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 9:22 pm
Subject: TheServerSide Java Symposium discounts
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FYI;

Dear NovaJUG,

My name is Kait O'Neal and I am writing to extend a Java User Group discount to
you and your members for the 2010 TheServerSide Java Symposium in Las Vegas,
March 17-19, 2010. We hope you can participate – and as an added incentive -
would like to offer your members a special rate of $200 off the registration
fee.

Have you heard of our unique event?

TheServerSide Java Symposium (TSSJS) is hosted each year by TheServerSide.com to
explore new technologies driving enterprise Java today. Keynote speakers for
2010 include Bob Brewin, CTO of Sun Microsystems, and Dave Chappell, creator of
the ESB and Chief Technologist for SOA at Oracle Corporation.

Other speakers already confirmed to present include David Geary, Jeremy Deane,
Ryan Heaton, Reza Rahman, Eben Hewitt, Josh Long, Matt Raible and more key Java
experts.

New for 2010, we've introduced a track for Cloud Development in addition to
Frameworks, Architecture/SOA, Language, Tools & Techniques tracks, and our very
own mini-conference titled  TheServerSide presents TheClientSide - which will
offer sessions geared specifically towards client-side development, covering
Ajax, JSF, Flash/Flex, JavaFX and more to address the needs of advanced
developers.

As I mentioned above, your members can save an extra $200 off the registration
fee with the registration code JUG. We're expecting 300 developers, architects
and project managers to join us in Las Vegas this year, and many of our speakers
and attendees participate in user groups.

If you'd like to promote your group to TheServerSide.com community, send along
your contact information, a logo and URL and I will post it on the conference
site. Please also let me know if you are interested in other partnership
opportunities with TheServerSide.com—including exchanging emails, newsletter
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I hope you will pass this discount on to your members. I look forward to hearing
from you!

Best regards,

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