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#1819

From: Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@...>
Date: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:23 am
Subject: Poni?

Saluto!

Ob on ne deve usa "ponie" por li mikri kavale?

Amikim

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#1820

From: James Chandler <idojc@...>
Date: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:59 am
Subject: RE: Poni?

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In Novial, non omni substantive mus fina per -e !


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> To: novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
> From: cellus@...
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:23:26 +0200
> Subject: [novial-discussion] Poni?
>
> Saluto!
>
> Ob on ne deve usa "ponie" por li mikri kavale?
>
> Amikim
>
> Kjell R
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#1821

From: Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@...>
Date: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:24 am
Subject: Re: Poni?

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James Chandler skrev:
> In Novial, non omni substantive mus fina per -e !
>
Evidentim! Me non ha esplora altri vordes kel internationalim fina per
y/i. Poni es klar ek men komprensione.

Kjell R

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#1822

From: Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@...>
Date: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:06 pm
Subject: praline

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Saluto!

praline es falsi amike por nus. Li angli traduktione de svedum "pralin"
es "chokolate"! Ma novialim "praline" es "grilati mandeles"! Tand on
pove parla pri falsi amikes!

Kjell R

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#1823

From: James Chandler <idojc@...>
Date: Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:01 pm
Subject: RE: praline

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In Anglia "praline" es sorte de sukraje fat ek nutes, probablim mandeles.

Disi sukraje bli usa kom li internaje de chokolates, o bli mixa kun li chokolate
self.

Famosi exemple es li chokolates "Guylian", keles have li forme de konkes maral.

http://www.guylian.be/en/home/


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#1824

From: Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@...>
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:32 am
Subject: Re: praline

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James Chandler skrev:
> In Anglia "praline" es sorte de sukraje fat ek nutes, probablim mandeles.
>
> Disi sukraje bli usa kom li internaje de chokolates, o bli mixa kun li
chokolate self.
>
> Famosi exemple es li chokolates "Guylian", keles have li forme de konkes
maral.
>
> http://www.guylian.be/en/home/
>
>
Tum es interesant. Nus parla ofte pri chokolati pralines svedim. Me non
es spesialim ravisat pri li chokolati pralines, ma in li komprension de
Jespersen ke "praline" es "burnt almonds" es plus proximi a men guste.
Omni formes de nutes me interesa.

Seterim, quel es li generali vorde por anglum "nut"? "nute"?

Kjell R

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#1825

From: James Chandler <idojc@...>
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:52 am
Subject: RE: praline

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"praline" in anglum non pove es mandeles.  Nun me kreda ke lu bli fa ek
*avelanes ("hazelnuts" in anglum).


> Seterim, quel es li generali vorde por anglum "nut"? "nute"?

Segun Novial Lexike, nute o nutete.


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#1826

From: "Bruce R. Gilson" <brg1942@...>
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:23 am
Subject: Re: praline

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2010/7/25 Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@...>

Saluto!

praline es falsi amike por nus. Li angli traduktione de svedum "pralin"
es "chokolate"! Ma novialim "praline" es "grilati mandeles"! Tand on
pove parla pri falsi amikes!

Kjell R

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Li vorde have multi signifikationes in diferenti landes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praline
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#1827

From: Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@...>
Date: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:57 am
Subject: pufe

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Li vorde "pufe"! Sembla ke li fransi signifo es li akurati, segun men
vordaros. Quum pensa vus?

Kjell R

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#1828

From: "Bruce R. Gilson" <brg1942@...>
Date: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: pufe

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2010/8/15 Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@...>

Li vorde "pufe"! Sembla ke li fransi signifo es li akurati, segun men
vordaros. Quum pensa vus?

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According to Google Translate, the French "pouf, coussin" brings up "ottoman cushion." So together with the English already, it means "ottoman." (Apparently "ottoman" is used in Swedish, too. Don't you know the word?)�

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#1829

From: Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@...>
Date: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:09 am
Subject: Re: pufe

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Bruce R. Gilson skrev:
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>
>
> 2010/8/15 Kjell Rehnstr?�m <cellus@... <mailto:cellus@...>>
>
>     Li vorde "pufe"! Sembla ke li fransi signifo es li akurati, segun men
>     vordaros. Quum pensa vus?
>
>
> According to Google Translate, the French "pouf, coussin" brings up
> "ottoman cushion." So together with the English already, it means
> "ottoman." (Apparently "ottoman" is used in Swedish, too. Don't you
> know the word?)
Well yes, we have got it in Swedish as well, just that it is a somewhat
other piece of furniture. But with cushion it works, I guess.

One should put up a warning flag for Google translate. It seams to work
via English. The Swedish "v�l" which sometimes does mean "well" is often
translated into well that you can get water from! Even if the Swedish
for that kind of well is "brunn"!

But back to the matter. I went with the French translation.

Kjell R

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#1830

From: Kjell Rehnström <cellus@...>
Date: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:42 am
Subject: quadratisa?

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Li questione konserne li vorde
"quadratisa", ob tum es "tu square"
anglim?

Kjell R

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#1831

From: James Chandler <idojc@...>
Date: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: quadratisa?

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> Li questione konserne li vorde
> "quadratisa", ob tum es "tu square"
> anglim?
>
> Kjell R

Yes, anglim "to square"

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#1832

From: Kjell Rehnström <cellus@...>
Date: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:29 am
Subject: quaternari

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Saluto!

Me komprenda ke "quaternari"
signifika "kun relatione al geologi
aje. In tal kasu, ob li nome del
geologikal periode self es
"quaternare"?

Kjell R

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#1833

From: Kjell Rehnström <cellus@...>
Date: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:31 am
Subject: quaternari

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Ob li parole por li aje es
"quaternarum"? Nus ya have
"kenosoikum, paleosoikum" e tande
"quaternarum" vud es posibli, no?

Kjell R

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#1834

From: Kjell Rehnström <cellus@...>
Date: Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:27 pm
Subject: quinari

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Ob quinari es romiani monete?

Kjell R

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#1835

From: Kjell Rehnström <cellus@...>
Date: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:56 pm
Subject: raptasi

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Quum es kun li vorde "raptasi" pove
tum es animal quel manja altri
animales?

Kjell R

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#1836

From: Donald Gasper <don_gasper@...>
Date: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:11 pm
Subject: RE: raptasi

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"Raptasi" koresponda al anglesi "rapacious".

Kjell skripted:

> Quum es kun li vorde "raptasi" pove
> tum es animal quel manja altri
> animales?
>

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#1837

From: Kjell Rehnstr�m <cellus38@...>
Date: Fri Jul 6, 2012 3:01 pm
Subject: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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Aftre un altri labore me nn denove (?) pove okupa me kun novial. Li interesanti vorde es "dona" ma on ha "sirkumda", e me komprende ke deve es "sirkumdona" sekun germanumen "Umgeben". Ob tum es korekti, o ob mi vordaro non es ye justum?

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#1838

From: "Rosto" <rostislav-levchenko@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 5:00 am
Subject: Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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"Geben" in germanun no es nur "dona" ma anke "akte" e "exista"
http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/geben
ob no?
Pro quum es "sirkumda"? - anke me no komprenda. Forsan in Vokablaro es erore.
Forsan lum es simplim "sirkuma"?

Rosto.

--- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, Kjell Rehnstr�m <cellus38@...>
skripted:
>
> Aftre un altri labore me nn denove (?) pove okupa me kun novial. Li
> interesanti vorde es "dona" ma on ha "sirkumda", e me komprende ke deve es
> "sirkumdona" sekun germanumen "Umgeben". Ob tum es korekti, o ob mi vordaro
> non es ye justum?
>

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#1839

From: "Hermann" <hphilipps@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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Kari Novialistes

Li vorte "umgeben" in germanum nur es ansieni traduktione del latini vorte
"circumdare" (< "circum = around" e "dare = to give") de kel li radike es
"circumda-".

Novial anke have li vorte "sirkumstantie", ma nuli vorte "stantie" exista in
Novial.

Dunke ti du vortes es non-dependanti, non-kompositi vortes in Novial, e
"sirkumda" es totim korekti.

Hermann

--- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" <rostislav-levchenko@...>
wrote:
>
> "Geben" in germanun no es nur "dona" ma anke "akte" e "exista"
> http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/geben
> ob no?
> Pro quum es "sirkumda"? - anke me no komprenda. Forsan in Vokablaro es erore.
Forsan lum es simplim "sirkuma"?
>
> Rosto.
>
> --- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, Kjell Rehnstr�m <cellus38@>
skripted:
> >
> > Aftre un altri labore me nn denove (?) pove okupa me kun novial. Li
> > interesanti vorde es "dona" ma on ha "sirkumda", e me komprende ke deve es
> > "sirkumdona" sekun germanumen "Umgeben". Ob tum es korekti, o ob mi vordaro
> > non es ye justum?
> >
>

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#1840

From: James Chandler <idojc@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:50 pm
Subject: RE: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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Kar Kjell

On mus lerna tu lekte li Novial Lexike. Li vorde SIRKUMDA non bli deriva fro li vorde DONA. Jespersen listisa li equivalentes in anglum, fransum e germanum por helpa vu.

In anglum li vorde "surround" nulim relate li vorde "give". Dunke me non komprenda vun questione.

Kordialim
JC

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From: cellus38@...
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:01:30 +0200
Subject: [novial-discussion] Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

Aftre un altri labore me nn denove (?) pove okupa me kun novial. Li interesanti vorde es "dona" ma on ha "sirkumda", e me komprende ke deve es "sirkumdona" sekun germanumen "Umgeben". Ob tum es korekti, o ob mi vordaro non es ye justum?

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#1841

From: "Rosto" <rostislav-levchenko@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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Sertim, vus es justi, Hemann e James.

Anke, men latini vokablaro deskripte 28(!) signifikationes del latini verbe "do,
dare".
Ya, in novial "dona" habe nur un signifikation.
Anke in rusum, qualim in anglum, un analoge de suposit "sirkum-dona" no bli
uzat.

Lum es "sirkumda", fro latini "sirkumdare", sin analiso, me komprenda nun.

Rosto.



--- In novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler <idojc@...> skripted:
>
>
> Kar Kjell
>
> On mus lerna tu lekte li Novial Lexike.  Li vorde SIRKUMDA non bli deriva fro
li vorde DONA.  Jespersen listisa li equivalentes in anglum, fransum e germanum
por helpa vu.
>
> In anglum li vorde "surround" nulim relate li vorde "give".  Dunke me non
komprenda vun questione.
>
> Kordialim
> JC
>
>
>
>
> To: novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
> From: cellus38@...
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:01:30 +0200
> Subject: [novial-discussion] Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Aftre un altri labore me nn denove (?) pove okupa me kun novial. Li
interesanti vorde es "dona" ma on ha "sirkumda", e me komprende ke deve es
"sirkumdona" sekun germanumen "Umgeben". Ob tum es korekti, o ob mi vordaro non
es ye justum?
>

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#1842

From: Kjell Rehnstr�m <cellus38@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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Me pensa ke germanum "umgeben" es li fonte. Si tum es korekti, me krede ke "sirkumdona" es li sol posibleso, den existe nur un exemple kun li vorde morfeme "da" e tum es justim in "sirkumda". Poves es solim un tipografi erore.

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#1843

From: Donald Gasper <don_gasper@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 11:21 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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Anke in li italianum on have li vorde 'circondare'.

Donald

> To: novial-discussion@yahoogroups.com
> From: hphilipps@...
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 12:30:14 +0000
> Subject: [novial-discussion] Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes
>
>
> Kari Novialistes
>
> Li vorte "umgeben" in germanum nur es ansieni traduktione del latini vorte "circumdare" (< "circum = around" e "dare = to give") de kel li radike es "circumda-".
>
> Novial anke have li vorte "sirkumstantie", ma nuli vorte "stantie" exista in Novial.
>
> Dunke ti du vortes es non-dependanti, non-kompositi vortes in Novial, e "sirkumda" es totim korekti.
>
> Hermann
>
>
>

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#1844

From: Donald Gasper <don_gasper@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 11:44 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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No, li fonte del vordes in Novial e li germanum es latini 'circumdare', qualim Hermann ha indika.

Donald

Kjell skripted:

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#1845

From: Kjell Rehnstr�m <cellus38@...>
Date: Sun Jul 8, 2012 5:38 am
Subject: Re: Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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Nus have dunke kvalim in esperanto un sekundari forme *da kel non es produktivi.

Kjell R

2012/7/8 Donald Gasper <don_gasper@...>

�

No, li fonte del vordes in Novial e li germanum es latini 'circumdare', qualim Hermann ha indika.

Donald

Kjell skripted:�

Me pensa ke germanum "umgeben" es li fonte. Si tum es korekti, me krede ke "sirkumdona" es li sol posibleso, den existe nur un exemple kun li vorde morfeme "da" e tum es justim in "sirkumda". Poves es solim un tipografi erore.

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#1846

From: James Chandler <idojc@...>
Date: Sun Jul 8, 2012 9:28 am
Subject: RE: Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

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Kar Kjell

Li probleme es ke vu pensa pri Novial kom si lum vud es Interlingua. Faktim li -a non es parte del radike, lu indika un verbe in Novial.

Li radike es SIRKUMD- selektet da Jespersen segun li romanali lingues e latinum.

Kordialim
JC

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Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 07:38:25 +0200
Subject: Re: [novial-discussion] Re: Li verbe "dona" e sen komposajes

Nus have dunke kvalim in esperanto un sekundari forme *da kel non es produktivi.

Kjell R

2012/7/8 Donald Gasper <don_gasper@...>

No, li fonte del vordes in Novial e li germanum es latini 'circumdare', qualim Hermann ha indika.

Donald

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#1847

From: Kjell Rehnstr�m <cellus38@...>
Date: Sun Jul 8, 2012 3:19 pm
Subject: paga t.

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In mi editione del novial-fransi, angli, germani vordaro es skripti note che "tributa = paga t":� e� "editor's note: pagat?" Es tre probabli ke li korekti es paga tribute, den ti expresione exista anke in li skandinavi lingues.

Kjell R.

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#1848

From: James Chandler <idojc@...>
Date: Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: paga t.

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Yes, disum es exemple de direkti derivatione in Novial. tribute; tributa = paga tribute

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From: cellus38@...
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 17:19:23 +0200
Subject: [novial-discussion] paga t.

In mi editione del novial-fransi, angli, germani vordaro es skripti note che "tributa = paga t": e "editor's note: pagat?" Es tre probabli ke li korekti es paga tribute, den ti expresione exista anke in li skandinavi lingues.

Kjell R.

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