When using Microsoft Outlook or similar on a computer, and wanting to use a
Handheld, Pocket PC or Smartphone when away, there can be a couple conflicts
with Gmail. This seems to work fine...

1. Set up the Gmail account in nPOPuk on the smaller device, using the template
if desired with version 2.12.

2. Put "recent:" in front of the POP username, without the quotes, so
username@... would become recent:username@... to access the last 30
days of email.

3. Be sure to check-mark "Disable 'RETR' command".

4. Check account and wait until mail starts coming in, then tap the X to stop
the process.

5. Notice the number of emails on the server. If you don't want them all to be
retrieved, go to File > Mailbox > Initialise and choose the number to start
with, then Check account again.

6. If you notice your own sent mail coming through, go the the account filter
option in nPOPuk and set a filter to reject all mail from your email address.
Asterix may be needed before and after the address, but not sure.

Now nPOPuk should show the same messages as Outlook, from the message number
chosen when initializing. New mail is still available to retrieve through
Outlook after first retrieving with nPOPuk on the smaller device, and visa
versa.

If anyone tries this, and finds something different, it would be good to know.

-Craig

Here is a page relating to settings found in the nPOPuk.ini file,
should you wish to edit behaviors there:
http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopukini.htm

But the items relating to loading mailboxes on launch and contacts are
to be found in the Global Options tabs. For mailbox loading behavior,
go to File | Global Options | Advanced and use the menu there to
select your preference. For speed I choose 'Automatically as needed' -
if 'All at startup' is set in yours now this would explain something
about slow loading time.

For contacts loading you need first decide what behavior works best
for your use. In my experience, loading the Contacts database on my WM
phone is the single biggest difficulty relating to startup delay,
taking well over 10 seconds to scan for and load a few hundred email
addresses from my 800+ contacts. If you wish to change this, loading
nPOPuk without loading freshly scanned contacts, then you will need to
manually edit the nPOPuk.ini file in your text editor of preference.
Search for the line there called LoadPOOMAtStart= and change the value
to LoadPOOMAtStart=0 - this will load the previously created
Address.lst file at startup, rather than creating a brand new one on
every launch. When you need to update your address list, you will need
to open Address book from the File menu within nPOPuk while running
and then select Get Contacts and wait for that to load, then OK.

If you do not have Use Pocket Contacts address book selected under
File | Global Options | Other, then this does not apply, as you will
be using a manually created list of email addresses.

There are other user defined options which may affect memory use and
loading speed. You should examine the commented INI from the support
site to see which of these might apply to your particular use for the
program.
http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopuk-ini.txt


    Gerard Ivan Samija
    http://www.luthier.ca/



asd <asdsia@...> wrote:
(08/06/2009 21:54)

> Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> freshly loaded on every launch?
>
> **   Wasn't aware of this settings. Where will I find this ?
>
> Thanks for your other sugggestions. Will also try a new stick type.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Gerard Ivan Samija <gerard@...> wrote:
> (07/08/2009 01:39)
>
> > Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> > freshly loaded on every launch? Have you set nPOPuk to load all
> > mailboxes and saveboxes at launch? This sort of thing can dramatically
> > slow nPOPuk opening. Further, have you recently installed nPOPuk to a
> > slow memory card, such as a Class 2 SD or SDHC card? Class 2, and even
> > Class 4 cards can be frightfully slow in both read and write speeds. I
> > recommend an 'ultra' or Class 6 type card, whether it's microSD,
> > miniSD, of full size SD. Or perhaps you have changed the storage
> > location to flash memory in your device, such as with a WM5 or later
> > phone? Built-in flash memory is often as slow as a slow memory card,
> > sometimes even slower.
> >
> > If you set nPOPuk to load contacts only when requested manually, this
> > speeds opening a lot when you have a large contacts database. You may
> > also choose to load only the mailboxes needed, as they are opened.
> > Both save time in operation.
> >
> >
> >
> >    Gerard Ivan Samija
> >    http://www.luthier.ca/
> >
> >
> >
> > asdsia@... (peter sauven) wrote:
> > (08/06/2009 14:51)
> >
> > > Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> > > peter sauven (asdsia@...) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 at 23:51:52
> > >
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: Performance degraded. Takes ages to load and ages to close.
Wasn't like this before.  What can be done to improve this.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is the first message I've seen from this list since May 23.  Is that
correct or has my mail been screwed up some how?  (It's not a matter of it
being tossed as spam; I keep a regular eye on those for all my addresses and
there aren't any npopsupport messages there.)


-----Original Message-----
From: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com [mailto:npopsupport@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gerard Ivan Samija
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:55 AM
To: asd
Cc: nPOP_Yahoo_group
Subject: [nPOPuk] re: incredibly slow

Here is a page relating to settings found in the nPOPuk.ini file, should you
wish to edit behaviors there:
http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopukini.htm

But the items relating to loading mailboxes on launch and contacts are to be
found in the Global Options tabs. For mailbox loading behavior, go to File |
Global Options | Advanced and use the menu there to select your preference.
For speed I choose 'Automatically as needed' - if 'All at startup' is set in
yours now this would explain something about slow loading time.

For contacts loading you need first decide what behavior works best for your
use. In my experience, loading the Contacts database on my WM phone is the
single biggest difficulty relating to startup delay, taking well over 10
seconds to scan for and load a few hundred email addresses from my 800+
contacts. If you wish to change this, loading nPOPuk without loading freshly
scanned contacts, then you will need to manually edit the nPOPuk.ini file in
your text editor of preference.
Search for the line there called LoadPOOMAtStart= and change the value to
LoadPOOMAtStart=0 - this will load the previously created Address.lst file
at startup, rather than creating a brand new one on every launch. When you
need to update your address list, you will need to open Address book from
the File menu within nPOPuk while running and then select Get Contacts and
wait for that to load, then OK.

If you do not have Use Pocket Contacts address book selected under File |
Global Options | Other, then this does not apply, as you will be using a
manually created list of email addresses.

There are other user defined options which may affect memory use and loading
speed. You should examine the commented INI from the support site to see
which of these might apply to your particular use for the program.
http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopuk-ini.txt


    Gerard Ivan Samija
    http://www.luthier.ca/



asd <asdsia@...> wrote:
(08/06/2009 21:54)

> Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> freshly loaded on every launch?
>
> **   Wasn't aware of this settings. Where will I find this ?
>
> Thanks for your other sugggestions. Will also try a new stick type.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Gerard Ivan Samija <gerard@...> wrote:
> (07/08/2009 01:39)
>
> > Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> > freshly loaded on every launch? Have you set nPOPuk to load all
> > mailboxes and saveboxes at launch? This sort of thing can
> > dramatically slow nPOPuk opening. Further, have you recently
> > installed nPOPuk to a slow memory card, such as a Class 2 SD or SDHC
> > card? Class 2, and even Class 4 cards can be frightfully slow in
> > both read and write speeds. I recommend an 'ultra' or Class 6 type
> > card, whether it's microSD, miniSD, of full size SD. Or perhaps you
> > have changed the storage location to flash memory in your device,
> > such as with a WM5 or later phone? Built-in flash memory is often as
> > slow as a slow memory card, sometimes even slower.
> >
> > If you set nPOPuk to load contacts only when requested manually,
> > this speeds opening a lot when you have a large contacts database.
> > You may also choose to load only the mailboxes needed, as they are
opened.
> > Both save time in operation.
> >
> >
> >
> >    Gerard Ivan Samija
> >    http://www.luthier.ca/
> >
> >
> >
> > asdsia@... (peter sauven) wrote:
> > (08/06/2009 14:51)
> >
> > > Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> > > peter sauven (asdsia@...) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 at
> > > 23:51:52
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ---------
> > >
> > > Message: Performance degraded. Takes ages to load and ages to close.
Wasn't like this before.  What can be done to improve this.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ---------



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Tim,

On 9 Aug 2009 at 20:04, tim spofford wrote:

> This is the first message I've seen from this list since May 23.  Is
> that correct or has my mail been screwed up some how?  (It's not a
> matter of it being tossed as spam; I keep a regular eye on those for
> all my addresses and there aren't any npopsupport messages there.)

there is a web interface at yahoo where you can find all messages saved.
It is easy to check if you are missing anything in the group's message area.

Werner



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lousy beautician.



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There have been other messages, including the one to which I was
responding with the one you quoted. Craig and Geoffrey have had a few
exchanges regarding external editor functionality and the INI. Other
stuff has cropped up. I'd guess something in your supply chain is
messing up, perhaps a server-based filter. I had that problem for a
time, where my email service was using SpamAssassin to expunge certain
emails without ever letting me know they existed. It took several
angry phone calls to get them to correct this misbehavior, so that
finally I receive all (I think) email including loads of spam, with
the supposed spam simply marked as such in the subject line. nPOPuk
has no trouble filtering that to mark for deletion. I guess they
figure most folks can't cope... but I was losing a lot of business
related email and some web forum notifications for reasons I can't
even guess at.



    Gerard Ivan Samija
    http://www.luthier.ca/



"tim spofford" <spof22@...> wrote:
(08/09/2009 19:04)

> [nPOPuk: text part complete but text/html is not; double-click to download]
>
> This is the first message I've seen from this list since May 23.  Is that
> correct or has my mail been screwed up some how?  (It's not a matter of it
> being tossed as spam; I keep a regular eye on those for all my addresses and
> there aren't any npopsupport messages there.)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com [mailto:npopsupport@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Gerard Ivan Samija
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:55 AM
> To: asd
> Cc: nPOP_Yahoo_group
> Subject: [nPOPuk] re: incredibly slow
>
> Here is a page relating to settings found in the nPOPuk.ini file, should you
> wish to edit behaviors there:
> http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopukini.htm
>
> But the items relating to loading mailboxes on launch and contacts are to be
> found in the Global Options tabs. For mailbox loading behavior, go to File |
> Global Options | Advanced and use the menu there to select your preference.
> For speed I choose 'Automatically as needed' - if 'All at startup' is set in
> yours now this would explain something about slow loading time.
>
> For contacts loading you need first decide what behavior works best for your
> use. In my experience, loading the Contacts database on my WM phone is the
> single biggest difficulty relating to startup delay, taking well over 10
> seconds to scan for and load a few hundred email addresses from my 800+
> contacts. If you wish to change this, loading nPOPuk without loading freshly
> scanned contacts, then you will need to manually edit the nPOPuk.ini file in
> your text editor of preference.
> Search for the line there called LoadPOOMAtStart= and change the value to
> LoadPOOMAtStart=0 - this will load the previously created Address.lst file
> at startup, rather than creating a brand new one on every launch. When you
> need to update your address list, you will need to open Address book from
> the File menu within nPOPuk while running and then select Get Contacts and
> wait for that to load, then OK.
>
> If you do not have Use Pocket Contacts address book selected under File |
> Global Options | Other, then this does not apply, as you will be using a
> manually created list of email addresses.
>
> There are other user defined options which may affect memory use and loading
> speed. You should examine the commented INI from the support site to see
> which of these might apply to your particular use for the program.
> http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopuk-ini.txt
>
>
>    Gerard Ivan Samija
>    http://www.luthier.ca/
>
>
>
> asd <asdsia@...> wrote:
> (08/06/2009 21:54)
>
> > Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> > freshly loaded on every launch?
> >
> > **   Wasn't aware of this settings. Where will I find this ?
> >
> > Thanks for your other sugggestions. Will also try a new stick type.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > Gerard Ivan Samija <gerard@...> wrote:
> > (07/08/2009 01:39)
> >
> > > Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> > > freshly loaded on every launch? Have you set nPOPuk to load all
> > > mailboxes and saveboxes at launch? This sort of thing can
> > > dramatically slow nPOPuk opening. Further, have you recently
> > > installed nPOPuk to a slow memory card, such as a Class 2 SD or SDHC
> > > card? Class 2, and even Class 4 cards can be frightfully slow in
> > > both read and write speeds. I recommend an 'ultra' or Class 6 type
> > > card, whether it's microSD, miniSD, of full size SD. Or perhaps you
> > > have changed the storage location to flash memory in your device,
> > > such as with a WM5 or later phone? Built-in flash memory is often as
> > > slow as a slow memory card, sometimes even slower.
> > >
> > > If you set nPOPuk to load contacts only when requested manually,
> > > this speeds opening a lot when you have a large contacts database.
> > > You may also choose to load only the mailboxes needed, as they are
> opened.
> > > Both save time in operation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    Gerard Ivan Samija
> > >    http://www.luthier.ca/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > asdsia@... (peter sauven) wrote:
> > > (08/06/2009 14:51)
> > >
> > > > Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> > > > peter sauven (asdsia@...) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 at
> > > > 23:51:52
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---------
> > > >
> > > > Message: Performance degraded. Takes ages to load and ages to close.
> Wasn't like this before.  What can be done to improve this.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---------
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

Gerard, did you notice this is the npopsupport board? Not much has happened
there lately.

----------------------------------------
From: Gerard Ivan Samija <gerard@...>
To: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:58:49 -0800
Subject: re: [nPOPuk] re: incredibly slow

There have been other messages, including the one to which I was
responding with the one you quoted. Craig and Geoffrey have had a few
exchanges regarding external editor functionality and the INI. Other
stuff has cropped up. I'd guess something in your supply chain is
messing up, perhaps a server-based filter. I had that problem for a
time, where my email service was using SpamAssassin to expunge certain
emails without ever letting me know they existed. It took several
angry phone calls to get them to correct this misbehavior, so that
finally I receive all (I think) email including loads of spam, with
the supposed spam simply marked as such in the subject line. nPOPuk
has no trouble filtering that to mark for deletion. I guess they
figure most folks can't cope... but I was losing a lot of business
related email and some web forum notifications for reasons I can't
even guess at.



    Gerard Ivan Samija
    http://www.luthier.ca/



"tim spofford" <spof22@...> wrote:
(08/09/2009 19:04)

> [nPOPuk: text part complete but text/html is not; double-click to download]
>
> This is the first message I've seen from this list since May 23.  Is that
> correct or has my mail been screwed up some how?  (It's not a matter of it
> being tossed as spam; I keep a regular eye on those for all my addresses and
> there aren't any npopsupport messages there.)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com [mailto:npopsupport@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Gerard Ivan Samija
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:55 AM
> To: asd
> Cc: nPOP_Yahoo_group
> Subject: [nPOPuk] re: incredibly slow
>
> Here is a page relating to settings found in the nPOPuk.ini file, should you
> wish to edit behaviors there:
> http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopukini.htm
>
> But the items relating to loading mailboxes on launch and contacts are to be
> found in the Global Options tabs. For mailbox loading behavior, go to File |
> Global Options | Advanced and use the menu there to select your preference.
> For speed I choose 'Automatically as needed' - if 'All at startup' is set in
> yours now this would explain something about slow loading time.
>
> For contacts loading you need first decide what behavior works best for your
> use. In my experience, loading the Contacts database on my WM phone is the
> single biggest difficulty relating to startup delay, taking well over 10
> seconds to scan for and load a few hundred email addresses from my 800+
> contacts. If you wish to change this, loading nPOPuk without loading freshly
> scanned contacts, then you will need to manually edit the nPOPuk.ini file in
> your text editor of preference.
> Search for the line there called LoadPOOMAtStart= and change the value to
> LoadPOOMAtStart=0 - this will load the previously created Address.lst file
> at startup, rather than creating a brand new one on every launch. When you
> need to update your address list, you will need to open Address book from
> the File menu within nPOPuk while running and then select Get Contacts and
> wait for that to load, then OK.
>
> If you do not have Use Pocket Contacts address book selected under File |
> Global Options | Other, then this does not apply, as you will be using a
> manually created list of email addresses.
>
> There are other user defined options which may affect memory use and loading
> speed. You should examine the commented INI from the support site to see
> which of these might apply to your particular use for the program.
> http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopuk-ini.txt
>
>
>    Gerard Ivan Samija
>    http://www.luthier.ca/
>
>
>
> asd <asdsia@...> wrote:
> (08/06/2009 21:54)
>
> > Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> > freshly loaded on every launch?
> >
> > **   Wasn't aware of this settings. Where will I find this ?
> >
> > Thanks for your other sugggestions. Will also try a new stick type.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > Gerard Ivan Samija <gerard@...> wrote:
> > (07/08/2009 01:39)
> >
> > > Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> > > freshly loaded on every launch? Have you set nPOPuk to load all
> > > mailboxes and saveboxes at launch? This sort of thing can
> > > dramatically slow nPOPuk opening. Further, have you recently
> > > installed nPOPuk to a slow memory card, such as a Class 2 SD or SDHC
> > > card? Class 2, and even Class 4 cards can be frightfully slow in
> > > both read and write speeds. I recommend an 'ultra' or Class 6 type
> > > card, whether it's microSD, miniSD, of full size SD. Or perhaps you
> > > have changed the storage location to flash memory in your device,
> > > such as with a WM5 or later phone? Built-in flash memory is often as
> > > slow as a slow memory card, sometimes even slower.
> > >
> > > If you set nPOPuk to load contacts only when requested manually,
> > > this speeds opening a lot when you have a large contacts database.
> > > You may also choose to load only the mailboxes needed, as they are
> opened.
> > > Both save time in operation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    Gerard Ivan Samija
> > >    http://www.luthier.ca/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > asdsia@... (peter sauven) wrote:
> > > (08/06/2009 14:51)
> > >
> > > > Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> > > > peter sauven (asdsia@...) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 at
> > > > 23:51:52
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---------
> > > >
> > > > Message: Performance degraded. Takes ages to load and ages to close.
> Wasn't like this before.  What can be done to improve this.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---------
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

Didn't notice, sorry. Werner already pointed this out privately, but
hey, I might as well suffer a bit of public humiliation for such an
oversight.

I included npopsupport@yahoogroups.com in my reply to that support
request because it seemed to belong there. Guess such support emails
don't get posted to Yahoo? Oh well, no harm, right?


    Gerard Ivan Samija
    http://www.luthier.ca/



<craigjacob@...> wrote:
(08/10/2009 13:42)

> [nPOPuk: text part complete but text/html is not; double-click to download]
>
> Gerard, did you notice this is the npopsupport board? Not much has happened
there lately.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> From: Gerard Ivan Samija <gerard@...>
> To: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:58:49 -0800
> Subject: re: [nPOPuk] re: incredibly slow
>
> There have been other messages, including the one to which I was
> responding with the one you quoted. Craig and Geoffrey have had a few
> exchanges regarding external editor functionality and the INI. Other
> stuff has cropped up. I'd guess something in your supply chain is
> messing up, perhaps a server-based filter. I had that problem for a
> time, where my email service was using SpamAssassin to expunge certain
> emails without ever letting me know they existed. It took several
> angry phone calls to get them to correct this misbehavior, so that
> finally I receive all (I think) email including loads of spam, with
> the supposed spam simply marked as such in the subject line. nPOPuk
> has no trouble filtering that to mark for deletion. I guess they
> figure most folks can't cope... but I was losing a lot of business
> related email and some web forum notifications for reasons I can't
> even guess at.
>
>
>
>    Gerard Ivan Samija
>    http://www.luthier.ca/
>
>
>
> "tim spofford" <spof22@...> wrote:
> (08/09/2009 19:04)
>
> > [nPOPuk: text part complete but text/html is not; double-click to download]
> >
> > This is the first message I've seen from this list since May 23.  Is that
> > correct or has my mail been screwed up some how?  (It's not a matter of it
> > being tossed as spam; I keep a regular eye on those for all my addresses and
> > there aren't any npopsupport messages there.)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com [mailto:npopsupport@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Gerard Ivan Samija
> > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:55 AM
> > To: asd
> > Cc: nPOP_Yahoo_group
> > Subject: [nPOPuk] re: incredibly slow
> >
> > Here is a page relating to settings found in the nPOPuk.ini file, should you
> > wish to edit behaviors there:
> > http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopukini.htm
> >
> > But the items relating to loading mailboxes on launch and contacts are to be
> > found in the Global Options tabs. For mailbox loading behavior, go to File |
> > Global Options | Advanced and use the menu there to select your preference.
> > For speed I choose 'Automatically as needed' - if 'All at startup' is set in
> > yours now this would explain something about slow loading time.
> >
> > For contacts loading you need first decide what behavior works best for your
> > use. In my experience, loading the Contacts database on my WM phone is the
> > single biggest difficulty relating to startup delay, taking well over 10
> > seconds to scan for and load a few hundred email addresses from my 800+
> > contacts. If you wish to change this, loading nPOPuk without loading freshly
> > scanned contacts, then you will need to manually edit the nPOPuk.ini file in
> > your text editor of preference.
> > Search for the line there called LoadPOOMAtStart= and change the value to
> > LoadPOOMAtStart=0 - this will load the previously created Address.lst file
> > at startup, rather than creating a brand new one on every launch. When you
> > need to update your address list, you will need to open Address book from
> > the File menu within nPOPuk while running and then select Get Contacts and
> > wait for that to load, then OK.
> >
> > If you do not have Use Pocket Contacts address book selected under File |
> > Global Options | Other, then this does not apply, as you will be using a
> > manually created list of email addresses.
> >
> > There are other user defined options which may affect memory use and loading
> > speed. You should examine the commented INI from the support site to see
> > which of these might apply to your particular use for the program.
> > http://www.npopuk.org.uk/npopuk-ini.txt
> >
> >
> >    Gerard Ivan Samija
> >    http://www.luthier.ca/
> >
> >
> >
> > asd <asdsia@...> wrote:
> > (08/06/2009 21:54)
> >
> > > Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> > > freshly loaded on every launch?
> > >
> > > **   Wasn't aware of this settings. Where will I find this ?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your other sugggestions. Will also try a new stick type.
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > Gerard Ivan Samija <gerard@...> wrote:
> > > (07/08/2009 01:39)
> > >
> > > > Have you changed the settings so that your Contacts database is
> > > > freshly loaded on every launch? Have you set nPOPuk to load all
> > > > mailboxes and saveboxes at launch? This sort of thing can
> > > > dramatically slow nPOPuk opening. Further, have you recently
> > > > installed nPOPuk to a slow memory card, such as a Class 2 SD or SDHC
> > > > card? Class 2, and even Class 4 cards can be frightfully slow in
> > > > both read and write speeds. I recommend an 'ultra' or Class 6 type
> > > > card, whether it's microSD, miniSD, of full size SD. Or perhaps you
> > > > have changed the storage location to flash memory in your device,
> > > > such as with a WM5 or later phone? Built-in flash memory is often as
> > > > slow as a slow memory card, sometimes even slower.
> > > >
> > > > If you set nPOPuk to load contacts only when requested manually,
> > > > this speeds opening a lot when you have a large contacts database.
> > > > You may also choose to load only the mailboxes needed, as they are
> > opened.
> > > > Both save time in operation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    Gerard Ivan Samija
> > > >    http://www.luthier.ca/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > asdsia@... (peter sauven) wrote:
> > > > (08/06/2009 14:51)
> > > >
> > > > > Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> > > > > peter sauven (asdsia@...) on Thursday, August 6, 2009 at
> > > > > 23:51:52
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > ---------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: Performance degraded. Takes ages to load and ages to close.
> > Wasn't like this before.  What can be done to improve this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > ---------
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links

Thanks, Werner.  I know that.  For others who may be curious, the answer to
my question is "yes, that's correct - no messages between late May and a few
days ago."

-
----Original Message-----
From: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com [mailto:npopsupport@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dr. Werner Furlan
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:57 AM
To: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [nPOPuk] re: incredibly slow

Tim,

On 9 Aug 2009 at 20:04, tim spofford wrote:

> This is the first message I've seen from this list since May 23.  Is
> that correct or has my mail been screwed up some how?  (It's not a
> matter of it being tossed as spam; I keep a regular eye on those for
> all my addresses and there aren't any npopsupport messages there.)

there is a web interface at yahoo where you can find all messages saved.
It is easy to check if you are missing anything in the group's message area.

Werner

all zip files win98/win32 unicode and regular versions are corrupted.

On 26 Aug 09 14:53 Brian Iglesias <jigs5169@...> said:
> all zip files win98/win32 unicode and regular versions are
> corrupted.

I have just tried a download from:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/npopsupport/files/nPOPuk2.12/

of the standard win32 version:


http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4D-VSj-7WUdr3XBlWoZdta0zcAvrF_1b0tC7xxdsgyfvXSZIRKJ\
-YRqVGMZC7mFX0gI6HgRRCKnc9tcyS2JY/nPOPuk2.12/npopuk212_win32.zip

and it appears fine.

Can only suggest you wait a while and try again. There may be server
issues somewhere out there on the Internet.

Greg Chapman
http://www.npopuk.org.uk
Supporting nPOPuk - the Portable E-Mail Client.

I'm finding corrupt files at this site also...

http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/downloads.htm

-Craig

> --------------------------------------------------
> Greg Chapman <greg@...> wrote:
> (26/08/2009 07:17)
>
>
> On 26 Aug 09 14:53 Brian Iglesias <jigs5169@...> said:
> > all zip files win98/win32 unicode and regular versions are
> > corrupted.
>
> I have just tried a download from:
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/npopsupport/files/nPOPuk2.12/
>
> of the standard win32 version:
>
>
>
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4D-VSj-7WUdr3XBlWoZdta0zcAvrF_1b0tC7xxdsgyfvXSZIRKJ\
-YRqVGMZC7mFX0gI6HgRRCKnc9tcyS2JY/nPOPuk2.12/npopuk212_win32.zip
>
> and it appears fine.
>
> Can only suggest you wait a while and try again. There may be server
> issues somewhere out there on the Internet.
>
> Greg Chapman
> http://www.npopuk.org.uk
> Supporting nPOPuk - the Portable E-Mail Client.

Hi,

On 26 Aug 09 15:29 Craig <craigjacob@...> said:
> I'm finding corrupt files at this site also...
>
> http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/downloads.htm

Ah!  From there, so am I!

I'm sure there'll be someone along in a minute to tell us they've put
it right.

As you'll have noticed I haven't officially made the announcement of
the formal public release of 2.12. However, I think my colleagues were
overlooking my lethargy rather than trying to pretend it wasn't
supposed to be available yet.

As you'll have worked out from the changing URLs, there's a lot been
going on behind the scenes at nPOPuk headquarters, with more of the
responsibilities being shared around the team. It looks as if we
haven't quite got the process seamless yet. Many apologies.

I will post my usual announcement through this and the announcement
list as soon as I'm next back at my computer and after I hear have the
problem sorted - hopefully within a few hours.

Greg Chapman
http://www.npopuk.org.uk
Supporting nPOPuk - the Portable E-Mail Client.

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Greg Chapman <greg@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 26 Aug 09 15:29 Craig <craigjacob@...>
> said:
> > I'm finding corrupt files at this site also...
> >
> > http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/downloads.htm
>
> Ah!  From there, so am I!
>


thanks for the new update. i apoligize for not reporting the source of the
corrupted files earlier. i totally forgot that this group also hosts them.

i'm testing the win32u version now. thanks again.

Uploading new files now ... I think I forgot to set binary mode for
FTP.

-Geoffrey



On 08/26/2009 10:57, Greg Chapman <greg@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 26 Aug 09 15:29 Craig <craigjacob@...> said:
> > I'm finding corrupt files at this site also...
> >
> > http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/downloads.htm
>
> Ah!  From there, so am I!
>
> I'm sure there'll be someone along in a minute to tell us they've
> put
> it right.
>
> As you'll have noticed I haven't officially made the announcement of
> the formal public release of 2.12. However, I think my colleagues
> were
> overlooking my lethargy rather than trying to pretend it wasn't
> supposed to be available yet.
>
> As you'll have worked out from the changing URLs, there's a lot been
> going on behind the scenes at nPOPuk headquarters, with more of the
> responsibilities being shared around the team. It looks as if we
> haven't quite got the process seamless yet. Many apologies.
>
> I will post my usual announcement through this and the announcement
> list as soon as I'm next back at my computer and after I hear have
> the
> problem sorted - hopefully within a few hours.
>
> Greg Chapman
> http://www.npopuk.org.uk
> Supporting nPOPuk - the Portable E-Mail Client.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hello,

It's been almost a year since the release of nPOPuk 2.11. On 24 August
the nPOPuk Team released 2.12.

There is a raft of subtle but useful features in this release which
are listed at:
http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/features.htm

You may download the new version for all supported platforms from:
http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/downloads.htm

The home page for the site is given in my signature. This address will
redirect you to the documentation for this new version. However, now
that some suppliers are bundling nPOPuk with with hardware products,
it is now planned to keep the documentation of recent older releases
available for those users who have not upgraded their software. The
documentation for 2.11 remains online at:
http://npopuk.org.uk/2.11/index.htm

As ever, if you have questions about nPOPuk, subscribers may post
their queries to the "npopsupport" mail list and others through the
feedback form at:
http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/feedback.htm#form

My thanks go to the whole nPOPuk team for producing this new version.
Domestic difficulties meant I relied heavily on the beta testers as
well as the programmers for virtually all the work in updating the
site. Hosting for the site has also changed. This should mean a
smoother updating process is possible for the next release. (You'll
notice that a first Release Candidate of 2.13 for some platforms is
already available on the downloads page.)

We all hope you find this new release a worthwhile development. Enjoy!

Greg Chapman
http://npopuk.org.uk
Supporting nPOPuk - the Portable E-Mail Client.

I'm consolidating some requests that I made on a forum elsewhere, so that other
nPOPuk users may see them and/or comment on them. First, a feature request for
the upcoming 2.13 version with built-in SSL:

SSLv3 supports compressing its stream with zlib. The compression happens
automatically if both ends have zlib support. Since 2.13 is having OpenSSL
support built-in, it would be great to have zlib support compiled in as well.

And, finally, my last accumulated post... I'm getting a connection freeze when
using OpenSSL on HPC, whether with 2.12 and separate DLL's or 2.13 with the
built-in SSL support. It seems to successfully retrieve a message, but then the
connection hangs, so that message is still marked with a connection failure.
Here is a sample log:

[Alpaxo] Connecting...
[Alpaxo] SSL connect...
[Alpaxo] verify: unable to get local issuer certificate (20)
[Alpaxo] +OK Hello there.
[Alpaxo] USER [user]@[domain]
[Alpaxo] +OK Password required.
[Alpaxo] PASS ****
[Alpaxo] +OK logged in.
[Alpaxo] RETR 1
[Alpaxo] Receiving...
[Alpaxo] Recv done.
Connection timed-out

The next command would've been another RETR. I can't reproduce this problem on
the desktop, so it seems to be related to the HPC. The interesting thing is
using the same OpenSSL DLL with stunnel doesn't exhibit the problem... So
perhaps it's something unique to Windows CE socket support or SSL?

I'm happy to provide other logs, if there is a way to enable them.

I'm using nPOPuk on handheld devices (HPC) sometimes. I noticed that the main
window hides when I view a message or compose new mail. It isn't consistent
though, as it remains e.g. when I reply to a message (rather than compose).

I noticed that this seems to be intentional in the source code, guarded by
#ifdef _WIN32_WCE. I can see this being useful on Pocket PC, where each
application only has one window. But HPC uses normal desktop-like task
switching, so I wonder if it would be better to guard these with #ifdef
_WIN32_WCE_PPC?

I'm happy to make the changes in the source code myself, but I'm wondering if
there is any documentation of exactly which instances of SW_HIDE and SW_SHOW I
should change. (Is there a version of nPOPuk that did not have this behavior,
that I could refer to?)

Thanks!

>
> --------------------------------------------------
> "kirk_meyer" <is0therm@...> wrote:
> (08/09/2009 20:11)
>
> And, finally, my last accumulated post... I'm getting a connection freeze when
using OpenSSL on HPC, whether with 2.12 and separate DLL's or 2.13 with the
built-in SSL support. It seems to successfully retrieve a message, but then the
connection hangs, so that message is still marked with a connection failure.
Here is a sample log:
>
> [Alpaxo] Connecting...
> [Alpaxo] SSL connect...
> [Alpaxo] verify: unable to get local issuer certificate (20)
> [Alpaxo] +OK Hello there.
> [Alpaxo] USER [user]@[domain]
> [Alpaxo] +OK Password required.
> [Alpaxo] PASS ****
> [Alpaxo] +OK logged in.
> [Alpaxo] RETR 1
> [Alpaxo] Receiving...
> [Alpaxo] Recv done.
> Connection timed-out
>
> The next command would've been another RETR. I can't reproduce this problem on
the desktop, so it seems to be related to the HPC. The interesting thing is
using the same OpenSSL DLL with stunnel doesn't exhibit the problem... So
perhaps it's something unique to Windows CE socket support or SSL?
>
> I'm happy to provide other logs, if there is a way to enable them.


With 2.13, Shift+ File > Global Options will open a text editor to edit the ini.

SocLog=1 generates log files as shown here...

http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/npopukini.htm

UseWindowsSSL=0 forces nPOPuk to use the SSL built-in to the exe file on 2.13.
This line is not in the Win32 version, and I don't know if it is in the HPC
version. Earlier versions had a different wording to this ini line, but still
the SSL letters, so can be found in a serch.

I had hang-ups with SSL on the PPC/SP devices untill forcing nPOPuk to use the
SSL files provided in this manner. Haven't tried this with the HPC.

-Craig

Part of this is that on WINCE (PPC or not), there can only be one edit
window; if you allow the main window to be visible, then someone might
try to start another message.


On 09/08/2009 22:46, "kirk_meyer" <is0therm@...> wrote:
>
> I'm using nPOPuk on handheld devices (HPC) sometimes. I noticed that
> the main window hides when I view a message or compose new mail. It
> isn't consistent though, as it remains e.g. when I reply to a
> message (rather than compose).
>
> I noticed that this seems to be intentional in the source code,
> guarded by #ifdef _WIN32_WCE. I can see this being useful on Pocket
> PC, where each application only has one window. But HPC uses normal
> desktop-like task switching, so I wonder if it would be better to
> guard these with #ifdef _WIN32_WCE_PPC?
>
> I'm happy to make the changes in the source code myself, but I'm
> wondering if there is any documentation of exactly which instances
> of SW_HIDE and SW_SHOW I should change. (Is there a version of
> nPOPuk that did not have this behavior, that I could refer to?)
>
> Thanks!

--- In npopsupport@yahoogroups.com, Craig <craigjacob@...> wrote:
> With 2.13, Shift+ File > Global Options will open a text editor to edit the
ini.
>
> SocLog=1 generates log files as shown here...
>
> http://npopuk.org.uk/2.12/npopukini.htm
>
> UseWindowsSSL=0 forces nPOPuk to use the SSL built-in to the exe file on 2.13.
This line is not in the Win32 version, and I don't know if it is in the HPC
version. Earlier versions had a different wording to this ini line, but still
the SSL letters, so can be found in a serch.
>
> I had hang-ups with SSL on the PPC/SP devices untill forcing nPOPuk to use the
SSL files provided in this manner. Haven't tried this with the HPC.
>
> -Craig
>

Hmm... I tried adding higher numbers (SocLog=9 etc.) but I didn't get any more
detailed log.

I did try adding the UseWindowsSSL tag to the configuration file, but it gets
removed when nPOPuk rewrites the INI file. From looking at the source, it looks
like it is only for PPC/SP.

Further testing shows that it *is* using OpenSSL when having this issue... I'm
not sure how to proceed. Just use stunnel, I guess.

--- In npopsupport@yahoogroups.com, Geoffrey Coram <gjcoram@...> wrote:
>
> Part of this is that on WINCE (PPC or not), there can only be one edit
> window; if you allow the main window to be visible, then someone might
> try to start another message.

Thanks for this explanation. I didn't know there was a reason not to show
multiple edit windows on CE... I guess it must be a design decision?

In that case, it might be good to fix the case where, when replying to a
message, one can still access the main window on CE.

On 09/14/2009 00:11, "kirk_meyer" <is0therm@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for this explanation. I didn't know there was a reason not to
> show multiple edit windows on CE... I guess it must be a design
> decision?

One from the original nPOP that I haven't seen fit to try to mess
with.

> In that case, it might be good to fix the case where, when replying
> to a message, one can still access the main window on CE.

Yes.

----- Original Message -----
From: Geoffrey Coram
To: npopsupport@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:39:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [nPOPuk] Windows hide on HPC


Geoffrey,

How do I go about getting off the nPop mailing list?

thanks.

Jim Kimes
















                   On 09/14/2009 00:11, "kirk_meyer" <is0therm@...>
wrote:

>

> Thanks for this explanation. I didn't know there was a reason not to

> show multiple edit windows on CE... I guess it must be a design

> decision?



One from the original nPOP that I haven't seen fit to try to mess

with.



> In that case, it might be good to fix the case where, when replying

> to a message, one can still access the main window on CE.



Yes.

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 14 Sep 09 13:23 James Kimes <jdkimes@...> said:
> How do I go about getting off the nPop mailing list?

Do what it says at the bottom of every message:

>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
     npopsupport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

(Of course, to see this you have set your Yahoogroups mail to
"Traditional". I'm not sure what you get if you have it set for "Fully
Featured" - probably a load of colourful graphic adverts!)

Greg Chapman
http://npopuk.org.uk
Supporting nPOPuk - the Portable E-Mail Client.

On 09/14/2009 00:11, "kirk_meyer" <is0therm@...> wrote:
>
> --- In npopsupport@yahoogroups.com, Geoffrey Coram <gjcoram@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Part of this is that on WINCE (PPC or not), there can only be one
> > edit window; if you allow the main window to be visible, then
> > someone might try to start another message.
>
> Thanks for this explanation. I didn't know there was a reason not to
> show multiple edit windows on CE... I guess it must be a design
> decision?
>
> In that case, it might be good to fix the case where, when replying
> to a message, one can still access the main window on CE.

I tried this a couple different ways on my Jornada 720, and I can't
seem to get it to happen.  Are you starting the reply from the main
window, or the view window?  Through Ctrl+R or a pull-down menu?  Is
it only while the "Property" dialog is up, or after the edit window
appears?

nPOPuk 2.13, with built-in SSL, can be downloaded from

http://npopuk.org.uk/2.13/downloads.htm

hi Geoffrey and co-workers,

gjcoram schrieb am 16 Oct 2009 um 10:02:

> nPOPuk 2.13, with built-in SSL, can be downloaded from
>
> http://npopuk.org.uk/2.13/downloads.htm

thank you very much. You did a lot of work for us.

cheers,
Werner


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On the PPC/SmartPhone, with the 2.13 version, File > About > WM Help brings up
simplified help pages for easy viewing on the smaller device. There are several
pages available as links.

If you find something needing changed or added, feel free to post a suggestion
to this npopsupport group.

> --------------------------------------------------
> "gjcoram" <gjcoram@...> wrote:
> (Friday, 10/16/09 3:02 AM)
>
> nPOPuk 2.13, with built-in SSL, can be downloaded from
>
> http://npopuk.org.uk/2.13/downloads.htm

At the bottom of this page is the new "Offline Web Site Files" section, which
offers a download of the web site for offline browsing on a PC, HPC, PPC or
SmartPhone.

http://npopuk.org.uk/2.13/downloads.htm

-Craig

> --------------------------------------------------
> "gjcoram" <gjcoram@...> wrote:
> (Friday, 10/16/09 3:02 AM)
>
> nPOPuk 2.13, with built-in SSL, can be downloaded from
>
> http://npopuk.org.uk/2.13/downloads.htm