Hello ~

My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with 800X480
display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-AU1250,

Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my device.
However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running NSBASIC simple
application.

I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple application for
testing includes only one commandbutton.

After copying the application, when click the application, there is only error
message as follows.

Exception : 0x80000002
Address : 03FCA5FO

I hope to know how to ~

Any comment welcome,

Regards,

NS Basic/CE 7.0 is obsolete. Version 8 is the current version. It
greatly simplifies the whole process of installation. You can download
the CE 8 demo from the website.

Let me know if you have questions!

>Hello ~
>
>My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with
>800X480 display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-AU1250,
>
>Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my device.
>However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running
>NSBASIC simple application.
>
>I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple application
>for testing includes only one commandbutton.
>
>After copying the application, when click the application, there is only
>error message as follows.
>
>Exception : 0x80000002
>Address : 03FCA5FO
>
>I hope to know how to ~
>
>Any comment welcome,
>
>Regards,
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Thank you very much for quick reply.

I will try again with NSBASIC 8.0 demo.

However, I remember that NSBASIC 8.0 demo also was not operated with unknown
error.

After testing again, I will let you know the results.



--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@...> wrote:
>
> NS Basic/CE 7.0 is obsolete. Version 8 is the current version. It
> greatly simplifies the whole process of installation. You can download
> the CE 8 demo from the website.
>
> Let me know if you have questions!
>
> >Hello ~
> >
> >My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with
> >800X480 display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-AU1250,
> >
> >Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my device.
> >However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running
> >NSBASIC simple application.
> >
> >I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple application
> >for testing includes only one commandbutton.
> >
> >After copying the application, when click the application, there is only
> >error message as follows.
> >
> >Exception : 0x80000002
> >Address : 03FCA5FO
> >
> >I hope to know how to ~
> >
> >Any comment welcome,
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

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Test of NSBASIC 8.0 failed in CE device,

I guess there maybe some limitation in compatiblity to CE.

But WM and PPC successful.

Good luck.


--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@...> wrote:
>
> NS Basic/CE 7.0 is obsolete. Version 8 is the current version. It
> greatly simplifies the whole process of installation. You can download
> the CE 8 demo from the website.
>
> Let me know if you have questions!
>
> >Hello ~
> >
> >My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with
> >800X480 display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-AU1250,
> >
> >Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my device.
> >However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running
> >NSBASIC simple application.
> >
> >I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple application
> >for testing includes only one commandbutton.
> >
> >After copying the application, when click the application, there is only
> >error message as follows.
> >
> >Exception : 0x80000002
> >Address : 03FCA5FO
> >
> >I hope to know how to ~
> >
> >Any comment welcome,
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Did you set the platform properly in Options > installers?


On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "withjss" <6k2ecy@...> wrote:

> Test of NSBASIC 8.0 failed in CE device,
>
> I guess there maybe some limitation in compatiblity to CE.
>
> But WM and PPC successful.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> --- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@...> wrote:
>>
>> NS Basic/CE 7.0 is obsolete. Version 8 is the current version. It
>> greatly simplifies the whole process of installation. You can
>> download
>> the CE 8 demo from the website.
>>
>> Let me know if you have questions!
>>
>>> Hello ~
>>>
>>> My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with
>>> 800X480 display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-
>>> AU1250,
>>>
>>> Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my device.
>>> However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running
>>> NSBASIC simple application.
>>>
>>> I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple
>>> application
>>> for testing includes only one commandbutton.
>>>
>>> After copying the application, when click the application, there
>>> is only
>>> error message as follows.
>>>
>>> Exception : 0x80000002
>>> Address : 03FCA5FO
>>>
>>> I hope to know how to ~
>>>
>>> Any comment welcome,
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Yes, all the platforms, especially MIPSII was tested.

--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, George Henne <gh@...> wrote:
>
> Did you set the platform properly in Options > installers?
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "withjss" <6k2ecy@...> wrote:
>
> > Test of NSBASIC 8.0 failed in CE device,
> >
> > I guess there maybe some limitation in compatiblity to CE.
> >
> > But WM and PPC successful.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> > --- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@> wrote:
> >>
> >> NS Basic/CE 7.0 is obsolete. Version 8 is the current version. It
> >> greatly simplifies the whole process of installation. You can
> >> download
> >> the CE 8 demo from the website.
> >>
> >> Let me know if you have questions!
> >>
> >>> Hello ~
> >>>
> >>> My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with
> >>> 800X480 display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-
> >>> AU1250,
> >>>
> >>> Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my device.
> >>> However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running
> >>> NSBASIC simple application.
> >>>
> >>> I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple
> >>> application
> >>> for testing includes only one commandbutton.
> >>>
> >>> After copying the application, when click the application, there
> >>> is only
> >>> error message as follows.
> >>>
> >>> Exception : 0x80000002
> >>> Address : 03FCA5FO
> >>>
> >>> I hope to know how to ~
> >>>
> >>> Any comment welcome,
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

What device are you trying to use?



On Oct 30, 2009, at 6:31 PM, "withjss" <6k2ecy@...> wrote:

> Yes, all the platforms, especially MIPSII was tested.
>
> --- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, George Henne <gh@...> wrote:
>>
>> Did you set the platform properly in Options > installers?
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "withjss" <6k2ecy@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Test of NSBASIC 8.0 failed in CE device,
>>>
>>> I guess there maybe some limitation in compatiblity to CE.
>>>
>>> But WM and PPC successful.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> NS Basic/CE 7.0 is obsolete. Version 8 is the current version. It
>>>> greatly simplifies the whole process of installation. You can
>>>> download
>>>> the CE 8 demo from the website.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have questions!
>>>>
>>>>> Hello ~
>>>>>
>>>>> My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with
>>>>> 800X480 display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-
>>>>> AU1250,
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my
>>>>> device.
>>>>> However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running
>>>>> NSBASIC simple application.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple
>>>>> application
>>>>> for testing includes only one commandbutton.
>>>>>
>>>>> After copying the application, when click the application, there
>>>>> is only
>>>>> error message as follows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exception : 0x80000002
>>>>> Address : 03FCA5FO
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope to know how to ~
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comment welcome,
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I appreciate your interest.

Device : X5 VANT
OS : Windows CE 5.0 CORE
CPU: RMI Alchemy AU1250 700MHz
MEMORY : 256 DDR

Detailed Spec.:

http://www.myviliv.com/product/x5vant/product_x5vant_m01.asp

--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, George Henne <gh@...> wrote:
>
> What device are you trying to use?
>
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2009, at 6:31 PM, "withjss" <6k2ecy@...> wrote:
>
> > Yes, all the platforms, especially MIPSII was tested.
> >
> > --- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, George Henne <gh@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Did you set the platform properly in Options > installers?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "withjss" <6k2ecy@> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Test of NSBASIC 8.0 failed in CE device,
> >>>
> >>> I guess there maybe some limitation in compatiblity to CE.
> >>>
> >>> But WM and PPC successful.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> NS Basic/CE 7.0 is obsolete. Version 8 is the current version. It
> >>>> greatly simplifies the whole process of installation. You can
> >>>> download
> >>>> the CE 8 demo from the website.
> >>>>
> >>>> Let me know if you have questions!
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello ~
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with
> >>>>> 800X480 display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-
> >>>>> AU1250,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my
> >>>>> device.
> >>>>> However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running
> >>>>> NSBASIC simple application.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple
> >>>>> application
> >>>>> for testing includes only one commandbutton.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After copying the application, when click the application, there
> >>>>> is only
> >>>>> error message as follows.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Exception : 0x80000002
> >>>>> Address : 03FCA5FO
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope to know how to ~
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any comment welcome,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

For this device, MIPSII is the one most likely to work. The device
itself appears to be a heavily customized Windows CE device, so it is
possible the manufacturer has done something that makes it impossible
for NS Basic apps to run.

Did you hard reset the device (after backing up what you need) before
trying NS Basic/CE 8?

If that does not solve the problem, you would probably need to send us a
sample device to our lab to figure out what is going on.

>I appreciate your interest.
>
>Device : X5 VANT
>OS : Windows CE 5.0 CORE
>CPU: RMI Alchemy AU1250 700MHz
>MEMORY : 256 DDR
>
>Detailed Spec.:
>
>http://www.myviliv.com/product/x5vant/product_x5vant_m01.asp
>
>--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, George Henne <gh@...> wrote:
>>
>> What device are you trying to use?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2009, at 6:31 PM, "withjss" <6k2ecy@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, all the platforms, especially MIPSII was tested.
>> >
>> > --- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, George Henne <gh@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Did you set the platform properly in Options > installers?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "withjss" <6k2ecy@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Test of NSBASIC 8.0 failed in CE device,
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess there maybe some limitation in compatiblity to CE.
>> >>>
>> >>> But WM and PPC successful.
>> >>>
>> >>> Good luck.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> NS Basic/CE 7.0 is obsolete. Version 8 is the current version. It
>> >>>> greatly simplifies the whole process of installation. You can
>> >>>> download
>> >>>> the CE 8 demo from the website.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Let me know if you have questions!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hello ~
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My target device is operated under Windows CE 5.0 core along with
>> >>>>> 800X480 display resolution. Processore is AMD/Alchemu, MIPS32-
>> >>>>> AU1250,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Now, I'm testing whether NSBASIC 7.0 demo is running with my
>> >>>>> device.
>> >>>>> However, up to this morning, I have fail several times to running
>> >>>>> NSBASIC simple application.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I have installed RuntimeFat.Wince to the CE device. Simple
>> >>>>> application
>> >>>>> for testing includes only one commandbutton.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> After copying the application, when click the application, there
>> >>>>> is only
>> >>>>> error message as follows.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Exception : 0x80000002
>> >>>>> Address : 03FCA5FO
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I hope to know how to ~
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any comment welcome,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ------------------------------------
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I'm writing a proposal to create a custom application for a Symbol handheld
scanner running Win Mobile 6.0.  The Symbol distributor who called me would like
to charge his prospective customer some amount per scanner, expecting the
customer to start with a few scanners, then buy more later.  It's a licensing
issue.  I'd like your opinions and suggestions about how to lock my application
to just the scanners my distributor sells.
   The GetSerialNumber function in NSBasic seems a likely answer.  For multiple
scanners I can use an array of serial numbers, and recompile as needed to add
more approved numbers.  When the app starts, I check the approved list against
GetSerialNumber, and either continue or quit.
   This solves any problems with dead batteries (when a Symbol unit battery runs
down, the unit reverts back to factory installation, everything added since the
factory disappears).
   Thanks for your suggestions.

Wayne Graham

We have just started testing of NS Basic/CE 8.1 Beta 1. If you are a
registered user of NS Basic and would like to give it a try, send an
email to NS Basic support and we will add you to the list.

Thanks!

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

GetSerialNumber is probably good enough, but some other things you can check:

  * MAC address of wireless network card
  * NSBasic.win32.api.SystemParameters(5) - See this TechNote about api:
http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/technotes/TN16.htm

I think you will really like the API check, b/c on my device it returns 'SYMBOL
MC70'

--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "Wayne" <wkgraham7@...> wrote:
>
>   I'm writing a proposal to create a custom application for a Symbol handheld
scanner running Win Mobile 6.0.  The Symbol distributor who called me would like
to charge his prospective customer some amount per scanner, expecting the
customer to start with a few scanners, then buy more later.  It's a licensing
issue.  I'd like your opinions and suggestions about how to lock my application
to just the scanners my distributor sells.
>   The GetSerialNumber function in NSBasic seems a likely answer.  For multiple
scanners I can use an array of serial numbers, and recompile as needed to add
more approved numbers.  When the app starts, I check the approved list against
GetSerialNumber, and either continue or quit.
>   This solves any problems with dead batteries (when a Symbol unit battery
runs down, the unit reverts back to factory installation, everything added since
the factory disappears).
>   Thanks for your suggestions.
>
> Wayne Graham
>

After a hard disk failure on my Vista machine, I replaced the HD and installed
Windows 7. I was able to install the Mobile 6.5 sdk but the images will not let
me change the skin to a PPC nor browse for a shared folder (the buttons are
there but don't work). When I tried to install mobile 6 sdk (the one I had
before) it said I first had to have Visual Studio 2005 or later. VS 2005 is not
compatible with Windows 7 and the express edition of VS 2008 isn't either.
Anyone out there with Windows 7 who has had success with an emulator? I suppose
something will be available eventually but I could use it now. Thanks for any
help.

Jim Schuchert

I checked Microsoft's Device Emulator Forum:
<http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Search/en-US/?query=windows
%207&rq=meta:Search.MSForums.ForumID(161b0fc0-d41e-4f45-
b358-39ea72aa31bc)&rn=Microsoft+Device+Emulator+Forum>

There are several people using MDE on Windows 7 there. You might want to
post the question on that forum.

>After a hard disk failure on my Vista machine, I replaced the HD and
>installed Windows 7. I was able to install the Mobile 6.5 sdk but the
>images will not let me change the skin to a PPC nor browse for a shared
>folder (the buttons are there but don't work). When I tried to install
>mobile 6 sdk (the one I had before) it said I first had to have Visual
>Studio 2005 or later. VS 2005 is not compatible with Windows 7 and the
>express edition of VS 2008 isn't either. Anyone out there with Windows 7
>who has had success with an emulator? I suppose something will be
>available eventually but I could use it now. Thanks for any help.
>
>Jim Schuchert
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@...> wrote:
>
> Good point.
>
> I assumed when I read the original message that this error occurred when
> starting NS Basic. However, that isn't necessarily what the original
> message said.
>
> There was a problem with this message appearing on ending the program.
> Is this what you are seeing? If so, you need to try 8.0, where a fix was
> made for this.
>
> If that does not fix the problem, please let me know!

Thanks George, at least I know it has been addressed.  I started building an 8.0
installer using the Demo version, but I've got some work to do with the new
installer build process.

We have just uploaded NS Basic/CE 8.1.0.

It has several nice new features, as well as a number of fixes. The most
exciting addition is the HTMLview control, which lets you put display
html formatted text in a control. With its ability to process links and
get input from HTML controls, then do POST, it adds a lot of power to NS
Basic/CE. The Tech Note is here:
<http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/technotes/TN42.htm>

The new release has been tested and is ready for use with Windows 7 and
Windows Mobile 6.5 devices.

Here the complete list of what is new and has been fixed:

  1. New Control: HTMLView. See Tech Note 42.
  2. IDE: Project now has Hi Res Aware property - see below.
  3. IDE: Project now has Dir To Install property - see below.
  4. IDE: Code Window: Now shows 16 lines in dropdown instead of 8.
  5. IDE: Extra blank lines are not longer added on each save.
  6. IDE: Form did not save Picture property.
  7. IDE: Loop is now highlighted as a keyword.
  8. IDE: Error 6 when selecting system color for gradient button fixed.
  9. IDE: Pocket PC VGA added to Option > Design Screen sizes.
10. IDE: Bug when opening NS Basic/Desktop projects fixed.
11. IDE: Better messages when object names are rejected in Properties.
12. IDE: Error when pasting PictureBoxes and Gradient Buttons fixed.
13. eVB2nsb: a number of enhancements have been made.
14. Installer does not overwrite newer Basic.exe.
15. Installer was deleting all files ending in .DAT
16. New Function: SendMessageString - see below.
17. PictureBox: DrawText was not sized properly on some devices
(NSBCEPicturebox.ocx 1.3.2)
18. Runtime: Fat executable now produced - see below.
19. Runtime: Illegal character when loading program fixed.
20. Runtime and IDE: Icon cleaned up.
21. New Tech Note: 42 Using the HTMLview control
22. New Sample: HTMLview

Download and install password information has not changed - you can
install over your existing NS Basic/CE 8.0 installation.

Let me know if you have questions!

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

Hi Andrew,

Yes, that's correct. Hi Res is accomplished by inserting a special
resource. The desktop IDE does this - but it's a bit complex to do. If
you don't want to wait for us, you could probably accomplish it with
some DECLARE statements.

A stub running on the device could certainly call a program you have
written. If you using the CHAIN statement, it would remain in Hi Res mode.

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

>
>
>Hi,
> 
>I'd just like to say that these new html and hi-res features are
>excellent: thank you very much indeed :-)
> 
>There's now just one little thing I would like to ask of the NS Santa. I
>would very much like to be able to make apps hires aware from the
>windows mobile ide, as I do much of my programming on the device (which
>is the main reason I bought NSB in fact). Having looked through the
>project files, I have come to the conclusion that it is the exe file
>that has the hires resource inserted, probably as a resource. That seems
>to mean I can only make a high res app on the PC.
> 
>As the PC IDE compiled exe now includes the runtime and nsbasic code, it
>means I can't create a stub exe on the pc and then modify the NSB source
>code on the pocket pc, so it seems I am doomed not to be able to program
>hires on the device. However, maybe it would be possible to execute an
>external NSB app from a PC compiled one - if so, would the interpreter
>for that called app still be hires aware?
> 
>What would be really nice in the next version of NSB CE would be a
>device ide that allows resources to be compiled into an exe on the
>device, including hires. I would even be willing to pay extra for that.
>Sorry if it turns out that I'm wrong and you can set hires somehow in
>the device ide. Also, please don't let this request degrade from the
>excellent new features.
> 
>Many thanks,
> 
>Andrew.
> 
> 
>
>
>

Hi George,

Thank you very much for replying. It would be very nice to have it in the device
ide, and fiddling with declare might be difficult without knowing what special
resource NSB inserts. However, the chain idea sounds excellent. At least I now
have the option to play with those ideas, so thanks once again for some
wonderful improvements.

Best wishes,

Andrew.




-----Original Message-----
From: George Henne <gh@...>
Sent: 11 November 2009 20:23
To: nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com <nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re(2): [nsbasic-ce] NS Basic/CE 8.1 uploaded

Hi Andrew,

Yes, that's correct. Hi Res is accomplished by inserting a special
resource. The desktop IDE does this - but it's a bit complex to do. If
you don't want to wait for us, you could probably accomplish it with
some DECLARE statements.

A stub running on the device could certainly call a program you have
written. If you using the CHAIN statement, it would remain in Hi Res mode.

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

>
>
>Hi,
> 
>I'd just like to say that these new html and hi-res features are
>excellent: thank you very much indeed :-)
> 
>There's now just one little thing I would like to ask of the NS Santa. I
>would very much like to be able to make apps hires aware from the
>windows mobile ide, as I do much of my programming on the device (which
>is the main reason I bought NSB in fact). Having looked through the
>project files, I have come to the conclusion that it is the exe file
>that has the hires resource inserted, probably as a resource. That seems
>to mean I can only make a high res app on the PC.
> 
>As the PC IDE compiled exe now includes the runtime and nsbasic code, it
>means I can't create a stub exe on the pc and then modify the NSB source
>code on the pocket pc, so it seems I am doomed not to be able to program
>hires on the device. However, maybe it would be possible to execute an
>external NSB app from a PC compiled one - if so, would the interpreter
>for that called app still be hires aware?
> 
>What would be really nice in the next version of NSB CE would be a
>device ide that allows resources to be compiled into an exe on the
>device, including hires. I would even be willing to pay extra for that.
>Sorry if it turns out that I'm wrong and you can set hires somehow in
>the device ide. Also, please don't let this request degrade from the
>excellent new features.
> 
>Many thanks,
> 
>Andrew.
> 
> 
>
>
>

Thanks, Andrew - great post!

>
>
>Hi,
> 
>Thanks to George's excellent suggestion, I spent a couple of hours last
>night playing with how to program, or edit, NSB programs on the device
>to use HiRes. Basically, once I'd worked out that using a form in the
>stub exe was a no-no, I came up with the following which I've posted in
>case anyone else wants to do this:
> 
>1) In NSB CE 8.1 on the PC create a new FORMLESS project and set the
>hires aware property to true.
> 
>2) Enter the following lines of code (just three - don't you just love
>how simple NSB can be :-):
> 
>Dim nsbtorun
>nsbtorun = Left(CurrentPath, Len(CurrentPath)-3) & "nsb"
>
>Chain nsbtorun,False
>
>3) Click the triangle run button to create the ce exe file, and
>then copy it to your device. By the way, it doesn't work if you set the
>end parameter of chain to true.
>
>4) Put your nsb file in the same place as the exe file on the device,
>and rename one of the files so that they both have the same name, but
>one with an exe, and one with an nsb, file extension.
>
>5) Run the exe file to run the nsb code in hires, or run the nsb file to
>run in standard res.
>
>6) If you have more programs to run in hires, you can just copy and
>rename the stub exe on the device and it will still work perfectly. OK,
>you have to use up 200k for each stub, but on a memory card these days
>that's not much.
>
>7) You can now edit the nsb code as usual, but also test in hires when
>needed. Once a program is finished I plan then to compile it on the PC
>to remove the stub file and add resources, etc. However, when I'm
>developing programs, this method allows me to do so on the device and
>still have hires. Maybe most people don't use the device IDE much, but I
>find it invaluable for coding and making minor edits when away from a PC.
>
>8) As George has said, the width and height properties can be used to
>find out the screen size, so as to write the code to allow for different
>control layouts. I've found that I don't get just a scaled version of my
>controls, but have to change the fontsize of controls, and their
>spacing, for it to work OK in hires, but it isn't difficult to set the
>control sizes and positions at runtime dependent on screen size.
>
>Anyway, I hope that's useful to someone.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Andrew.
>
> 
>
>
>
>

We've just uploaded NS Basic/CE 8.1.0a.

It fixes a couple of problems. Under certain circumstances, View Code
could cause an Error 91, and application icons were not appearing on
certain devices.

Use the same URL to download it as you did for 8.1. The password is unchanged.

Thanks to those who helped us run down these problems!

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

We've just uploaded NS Basic/CE 8.1.1.

Here is what is new:

1. Support added for Windows Mobile 6.5 Start Screen png icons.
2. Tech Note 30 updated with information on WM 6.5 icons.
3. Installer: Start Screen update no longer requires a reset in most cases.
4. IDE: Error 91 when doing View Code fixed.
5. IDE: Problems with application icon fixed.

Use the same URL to download it as you did for 8.1. The password is also
unchanged.

Thanks to those who helped us with these changes!

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

Just tonight I bought, downloaded and installed 8.1. Every time I try to launch
it, I get this error, saying that file "SYSINFO.OCX" or one of it's dependencies
not correctly registered. That file IS in my windows/system32 folder. I'm on
Vista Home Premium.

    -Bob-

What is the version of that file on your system?

The version we have here is 6.0.81.69.

The next step would be to try registering it. From the cmd line, enter
regsvr32 sysinfo.ocx

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

>Just tonight I bought, downloaded and installed 8.1. Every time I try to
>launch it, I get this error, saying that file "SYSINFO.OCX" or one of
>it's dependencies not correctly registered. That file IS in my windows/
>system32 folder. I'm on Vista Home Premium.
>
>   -Bob-
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Thank you, George, that fixed it.

If I were a more experienced developer, I would've known what this was about,
but my experience with recent versions of VB (within last 10 years) is just
sparse scripting, with no use of custom controls.

When I ran regsvr32 with just "sysinfo.ocx", I got the successful completion
message, but still got the same error message when launching NSB, even after
restarting the computer.

What fixed it was... doing that procedure again but (1) running the command
prompt as administrator and (2) specifying the complete path name with the file
name.

Thanks again for this fix. I was all disappounted/frustrated when I got the
error last night, after having just purchased & installed NSB, and it appeared
as though there was something missing from the install!!!  Turns out, instead,
it was because that control was already in an unregistered state on my machine.

      ---Bob---


--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@...> wrote:
>
> What is the version of that file on your system?
>
> The version we have here is 6.0.81.69.
>
> The next step would be to try registering it. From the cmd line, enter
> regsvr32 sysinfo.ocx
>
> George Henne
> NS BASIC Corporation
> http://www.nsbasic.com
>
> >Just tonight I bought, downloaded and installed 8.1. Every time I try to
> >launch it, I get this error, saying that file "SYSINFO.OCX" or one of
> >it's dependencies not correctly registered. That file IS in my windows/
> >system32 folder. I'm on Vista Home Premium.
> >
> >   -Bob-
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Thanks for the goods news (and the detailed explanation.)

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

>Thank you, George, that fixed it.
>
>If I were a more experienced developer, I would've known what this was
>about, but my experience with recent versions of VB (within last 10
>years) is just sparse scripting, with no use of custom controls.
>
>When I ran regsvr32 with just "sysinfo.ocx", I got the successful
>completion message, but still got the same error message when launching
>NSB, even after restarting the computer.
>
>What fixed it was... doing that procedure again but (1) running the
>command prompt as administrator and (2) specifying the complete path
>name with the file name.
>
>Thanks again for this fix. I was all disappounted/frustrated when I got
>the error last night, after having just purchased & installed NSB, and
>it appeared as though there was something missing from the install!!!
>Turns out, instead, it was because that control was already in an
>unregistered state on my machine.
>
>     ---Bob---
>
>
>--- In nsbasic-ce@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@...> wrote:
>>
>> What is the version of that file on your system?
>>
>> The version we have here is 6.0.81.69.
>>
>> The next step would be to try registering it. From the cmd line, enter
>> regsvr32 sysinfo.ocx
>>
>> George Henne
>> NS BASIC Corporation
>> http://www.nsbasic.com
>>
>> >Just tonight I bought, downloaded and installed 8.1. Every time I try to
>> >launch it, I get this error, saying that file "SYSINFO.OCX" or one of
>> >it's dependencies not correctly registered. That file IS in my windows/
>> >system32 folder. I'm on Vista Home Premium.
>> >
>> >   -Bob-
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------------
>> >
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi, i'm very new to NSbasic, and i was wondering where is a full tutorial on the
usage of the language?  For example, where can i find some code examples to do
some very common functions ?

e.g.  -

Read/Write to a file
Get Mouse Coordinates
Draw Pixels to a  Drawing Canvas

I'm trying to write a Flashcard and Dictionary App for a Windows CE 5/6 device

There is a set of tutorials on under the Help menu.

There is one for reading and writing to a file. Have a look at the
PictureBox for the other things you are interested in.



>Hi, i'm very new to NSbasic, and i was wondering where is a full
>tutorial on the usage of the language?  For example, where can i find
>some code examples to do some very common functions ?
>
>e.g.  -
>
>Read/Write to a file
>Get Mouse Coordinates
>Draw Pixels to a  Drawing Canvas
>
>I'm trying to write a Flashcard and Dictionary App for a Windows CE 5/6
>device
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>