Yes, they should work just fine. We also support languages like Japanese
and Chinese.

>Does NSBasic support unicode characters Greek for example;
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Does NSBasic support unicode characters Greek for example;
Thanks in advance

Hi,

We would like to let more people know what is being done with NS Basic/
Symbian OS. While the product is still very new, we know that there are
a number of apps are already out there.

We would appreciate if you could share with us

- comments on what NS Basic/Symbian OS is like to work with

- downloadable programs you may have

You will get some publicity for your work, and help us grow the product.

Thanks!

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

These items are all on the roadmap, but no date has been announced for them.

>Are there functions/commands allowing access to the internal GPS in
>some of the supported phones?  Does anyone know if the bluetooth
>profile in some/all of the supported phones support a bluetooth serial
>port?  Would there be commands allowing basic data to be passed back
>and forth, such as texting access?
>
>Thanks
>
>g_plumlee@...
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Are there functions/commands allowing access to the internal GPS in
some of the supported phones?  Does anyone know if the bluetooth
profile in some/all of the supported phones support a bluetooth serial
port?  Would there be commands allowing basic data to be passed back
and forth, such as texting access?

Thanks

g_plumlee@...

hi,

is there anyone with experience in using webservices with NsBasic-
Symbian?
Any comments or samples are highly apreciated.

regards. Henk

Sorry about the N95 error.  I knew that, but just edited it to the
wrong group.  Oh well, the numbers are accurate otherwise.

I know phone prices on eBay are risky, but I've purchased four phones
off of eBay without problems.  So, that's a lot of money saved for me.
  You are right to point out the risks to others though, as they may
not be aware of watching out for scams.  I may get burned some day,
but I will have saved plenty of money getting there.

As for the different flavors of Symbian (S60 3rd ed vs UIQ3), I think
I stuck with devices that were listed as being supported in NSBasic
docs ( http://www.nsbasic.com/symbian/info/faq.html ).


--- In nsbasic-symbian@yahoogroups.com, "Laurent THALER" <lthaler@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> the N95 is made by Nokia
>
> be carefull about 2 things with Symbian and eBay
>
> 1) Symbian = Nokia, devices made by SonyEricsson or Samsung are not
> made by Nokia and the OS is slightly different, at least enougth
> different to have a lot of applications not working, so be sure
> NSBasic and StyleTap are certified for it
>
> 2) these prices are too low to be honnest, what would you do with a
> cellular if it's simlocked or worse if the unlocking process has
> failed and the device is definitively locked ?

Hi,

the N95 is made by Nokia

be carefull about 2 things with Symbian and eBay

1) Symbian = Nokia, devices made by SonyEricsson or Samsung are not
made by Nokia and the OS is slightly different, at least enougth
different to have a lot of applications not working, so be sure
NSBasic and StyleTap are certified for it

2) these prices are too low to be honnest, what would you do with a
cellular if it's simlocked or worse if the unlocking process has
failed and the device is definitively locked ?

--- In nsbasic-symbian@yahoogroups.com, "handygenedoc" <junkmail@...>
wrote:
>
> I've been tracking Symbian device values over the past week or two
so
> I could buy one as a test platform.  It's help make sure I didn't
> spend too much.  I thought I'd share the device values with everyone
> in case others want to get a Symbian device off eBay.
>
> Sony Ericsson
> M600    - N= 2; mean $132+/-$58; median $132
> P990    - N=13; mean $157+/-$34; median $155
> P1      - N= 9; mean $242+/-$36; median $249
> N95 4gb - N= 1; $330
> N95 8gb - N= 3; mean $540+/-$37; median $550
>
> Nokia
> E62     - N=29; mean $ 86+/-$30; median $80
> E61     - N= 8; mean $131+/-$36; median $131
> E61i    - N= 4; mean $187+/-$54; median $188
> E71     - N= 1; $400
>
> There are significantly more Nokias on eBay than Sonys, as I started
> collecting Nokia data at least a week after I started collecting
Sony
> data.  Please note I only included devices initially listing less
than
> $150, so the prices I list above are falsely low, especially for the
> expensive devices.
>
>
> --- In nsbasic-symbian@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@> wrote:
> >
> > One of the problems with Series 60 (S60) is the sheer number of
devices
> > that have been released and that are upcoming. Knowing which ones
do
> > what and matching them up to your needs is a tricky task. Which is
why
> > I've set out to help you, below. Hope you find it useful!
> >
> > <http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/s60history.htm>
> >
> > Apps created using NS Basic/Symbian OS will run on S60 3rd Edition
> devices.
> >
> > George Henne
> > NS BASIC Corporation
> > http://www.nsbasic.com
> >
>

I've been tracking Symbian device values over the past week or two so
I could buy one as a test platform.  It's help make sure I didn't
spend too much.  I thought I'd share the device values with everyone
in case others want to get a Symbian device off eBay.

Sony Ericsson
M600    - N= 2; mean $132+/-$58; median $132
P990    - N=13; mean $157+/-$34; median $155
P1      - N= 9; mean $242+/-$36; median $249
N95 4gb - N= 1; $330
N95 8gb - N= 3; mean $540+/-$37; median $550

Nokia
E62     - N=29; mean $ 86+/-$30; median $80
E61     - N= 8; mean $131+/-$36; median $131
E61i    - N= 4; mean $187+/-$54; median $188
E71     - N= 1; $400

There are significantly more Nokias on eBay than Sonys, as I started
collecting Nokia data at least a week after I started collecting Sony
data.  Please note I only included devices initially listing less than
$150, so the prices I list above are falsely low, especially for the
expensive devices.


--- In nsbasic-symbian@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@...> wrote:
>
> One of the problems with Series 60 (S60) is the sheer number of devices
> that have been released and that are upcoming. Knowing which ones do
> what and matching them up to your needs is a tricky task. Which is why
> I've set out to help you, below. Hope you find it useful!
>
> <http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/s60history.htm>
>
> Apps created using NS Basic/Symbian OS will run on S60 3rd Edition
devices.
>
> George Henne
> NS BASIC Corporation
> http://www.nsbasic.com
>

If the firmware on your device is not up to date, you may run into problems.

On most devices, dialing *#0000# on the phone will bring up the firmware
version which is installed on your device. This website will help you
determine the current version on Nokia devices:
http://hunajatehdas.net/nokia/firmware/en/

We've seen this fix problems on E61 devices a few times - others are
probably also affected.

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

Here's a good (and free) utility to make screenshots of Symbian devices:

<http://www.antonypranata.com/screenshot>



George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

One of the problems with Series 60 (S60) is the sheer number of devices
that have been released and that are upcoming. Knowing which ones do
what and matching them up to your needs is a tricky task. Which is why
I've set out to help you, below. Hope you find it useful!

<http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/s60history.htm>

Apps created using NS Basic/Symbian OS will run on S60 3rd Edition devices.

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

NS Basic/Symbian OS 1.0.1 is available. It features a number of
enhancements and bug fixes.

Download instructions have been sent to all licensed users. If you're
using the demo, download it again to get the new version.

What's new in 1.0.1

  1. Samples: Stock Quote added.
  2. Runtime: Grid.TextMatrix fixed.
  3. Runtime: Localization preferences (dates, etc.) should work now.
  4. Runtime: StyleTap updated to 0.9.012
  5. Samples: Controls no longer hangs
  6. Installer: Files are now installed into c:\NSBasic_Symbian
  7. Installer: Option added to start IDE or HelloWorld on completion
  8. Installer: step added to register controls
  9. Compiler: Output files renamed for more clarity
10. Compiler: Error 70 fixed.
11. Compiler: S60 and UIQ installers can both be made in one run.

Documentation Notes for 1.0.1

The default Files Directory, which is used to store projects,
installers, samples and libraries has been changed from c:\NSBasic to c:
\NSBasic_Symbian. This will avoid the confusion with NS Basic/Palm
projects, which used the same directory. If you are using the default
folder, you will need to move your projects from \NSBasic\Projects to
\NSBasic_Symbian\Projects.

Unfortunately, there is no debugger. Since the IDE runs on one computer
and the executable is on another, it's tough to communicate back and
forth well enough to make a reasonable debugger.

On the other hand, it's relatively easy to put in some MsgBox statements
and recompile.


>Hi
>
>inside windows IDE, Is there a debug ? ( row by row, watchpoint.. )
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Not yet!

Our objective in release 1.0 is to make something that is solid and
useful. We'll be adding more features that make use of the Symbian OS as
we go along.

>http://www.themesheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/nokia-nseries-
>theme-for-symbian-s60.jpg

hi

Are there any native symbian components ?

like this :

http://tinyurl.com/5wgn4u

Hi

inside windows IDE, Is there a debug ? ( row by row, watchpoint.. )

Hi

Is NOKIA N73 ( one of the best-selling phones ) Supported ?

i can't see in :
http://www.nsbasic.com/symbian/info/technotes/TN01.htm

congrats for achievng this project, nice to see PalmOS UI again with
NSBasic on symbian but I got some troubles

tested on Windows XP SP3 and E65, compiling of some samples...

Controls or Listbox fails with "run-time error '70' permission denied"
and NSBAsic crashes but the sisx file is generated, same with listbox,
but HelloWorld and DigClck2 are ok

installation on my E65: HelloWorld and DigClck2 are ok, Controls runs
well but unable to exit and close the app


found this in the error.log
C:\\Symbian\\Carbide\\workspace\\StyleTapLauncherS60\\data\\StyleTapLauncherS60.\
rss(48)
: Warning: (047) the STRUCT that this resource is based on contains a
STRUCT[] data member which has not been used in this resource, the
missing element is: 'view_list'
C:\\Symbian\\Carbide\\workspace\\StyleTapLauncherS60\\data\\StyleTapLauncherS60_\
reg.rss(32)
: Warning: (047) the STRUCT that this resource is based on contains a
STRUCT[] data member which has not been used in this resource, the
missing element is: 'file_ownership_list'
C:\\Symbian\\Carbide\\workspace\\StyleTapLauncherS60\\data\\StyleTapLauncherS60_\
reg.rss(32)
: Warning: (047) the STRUCT that this resource is based on contains a
STRUCT[] data member which has not been used in this resource, the
missing element is: 'service_list'
Le fichier de commandes est introuvable.

Now that NS Basic/Symbian OS 1.0 has been released, we have opened up
this board for posting. You'll need to become a member of the board
(quick and easy to do) before you can post messages.

You have the choice of looking at the messages on the website, getting a
digest by email, or getting all individual postings by email (what I
do). A nice thing is that you can send message to the board by email as well.

Just a reminder: Valid uses of this forum include discussion on:

- Questions about how to do things in NS Basic
- Programming tips, techniques and info on NSBasic
- Posting of sample code.
- Announcement of cool apps developed with NS Basic
- Jobs or projects, available or wanted

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

We're thrilled to announce that NS Basic/Symbian OS 1.0 has been released.

The web site will be updated with more information throughout the day.
Orders can be placed here:
<http://www.nsbasic.com/order.shtml>

You will be able to download right away.

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

We're ready to start beta testing NS Basic/Symbian OS with a limited
number of beta testers. The product is looking pretty good for a first beta.

Requirements are:

1. A Symbian OS device, running UIQ 3 or S60 3rd Edition.
2. Time to do testing. Be honest - we only have a limited number of slots.

If you already have an NS Basic/Palm app, you can start by bring that over.

People who are interested should send an email to beta@.... Be
sure to include what device you have in your email.

Thanks!

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

There is now a FAQ which has some more information:
<http://www.nsbasic.com/iphone/info/faq.html>

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

>Hi George,
>when can I buy it? :-))
>Seriously, I'd be very interested if NSBasic was available for iPhone
>development. I've tried to take the first steps using the iPhone SDK,
>but it is really rather intimidating. Admittedly it is still in beta,
>but I don't expect it to get any easier once it's completed, except for
>the user interface designer which doesn't work yet but might help. So if
>NSBasic in a form similar to the one we're used to for CE and Desktop
>would be very welcome, to allow a quick entry into iPhone development.
>
>There are a few things I'd like to see, and in fact think are essential
>to a development system for the iPhone:
>for the completed application
>- look and feel of the completed application should be in iPhone style,
>which means that most controls should be available (no idea how you
>would simulate some of them in the development environment)
>- access to the builtin SQLite database
>- access to calendar, contacts, and notes (not so essential), possibly email
>
>for the IDE:
>- reasonable simulation of the controls in the IDE
>- development on PC ( Mac???? )
>
>- option to test on emulator (I think that's only possible on Macs?)
>
>If I can think of other things I''ll let you know.
>Kind regards
>Thomas
>
>Am 30.05.2008 um 21:03PM schrieb George Henne:
>
>We've just put up a preview of a Technology Demonstration of NS Basic
>running on an iPhone. See it here:
>
><http://nsbasic.smugmug.com>
>
>Important: NS BASIC Corporation is not promising or implying that it
>will ship a product for iPhone.
>
>Feel free to send your comments to support@..., both on the
>product and the video itself.
>
>Have fun!
>
>George Henne 
>NS BASIC Corporation
>http://www.nsbasic.com 
>
>
>
>

We've just put up a preview of a Technology Demonstration of NS Basic
running on an iPhone. See it here:

<http://nsbasic.smugmug.com>

Important: NS BASIC Corporation is not promising or implying that it
will ship a product for iPhone.

Feel free to send your comments to support@..., both on the
product and the video itself.

Have fun!


George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

We've just uploaded the first set of Tech Notes for NS Basic/Symbian OS.

You can check them out here:
<http://www.nsbasic.com/symbian/info/technotes/index.htm>

If you have questions or spot problems, please let us know at support @
nsbasic.com.

Thanks!

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

We're in London, England today showing NS Basic/Symbian OS at the
Symbian Partner event.

We had a number of meetings with people from Symbian, Nokia, Samsung,
Motorola, S60 and UIQ. There are a few agreements that need to be signed
before we can release the beta: I got verbal reassurances that the
approvals would come quickly.

I also got to make a 5 minute "Fast Pitch" on NS Basic/Symbian OS to top
executives of many of the companies and carriers that were present. We
were one of just a dozen or so companies selected to do so. It got a
good response, and a number of people came up for more information
afterwards. We're getting great support from the Symbian Community.

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

We've just posted some tutorials for NS Basic/Symbian OS:

<http://www.nsbasic.com/symbian/info/technotes/TT.index.htm>



George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com

We're working on the FAQ for NS Basic/Symbian OS.

If you have questions you think should be in the FAQ, please send them to NS
Basic support
at support@....

You can see the current FAQ here:
http://www.nsbasic.com/symbian/info/faq.html

In the interests of keeping the information in this forum relevant, posting to
this group will
not be turned on until the product is actually released.

Our policy of not commenting on new products until they are released means that
we could
not really say much until that date.

We''ll be in London on Tuesday for a Symbian Partner Event.

We are planning to announce news of NS Basic/Symbian OS there!