I'd like to preserve my existing Unslung installation and experiment with some
new packages that **might** screw things up. So I'd like to back up the entire
disk with a view to plugging in the old one if things go wrong. Simple eh?

Well - I have tried various different ways of cloning my disk with no success.
This is what I did. My source disk is a Western Digital 340GB and my target disk
is a Western Digital 2TB.

On UBUNTU
1) Ran fsck.ext3 on the source conf and data partition and fixed the errors.
2) Ensured I could still boot from my source disk and run my applications on the
NSLU2
3) Created 4 new partitions on my 2TB drive, the first 3 exactly the same size
as those in the 340GB drive and another (FAT32) to fill the drive.
4) I used dd to copy the first 2 partitions observing the correct block size. In
my case conf was 1024 and data was 4096. I also used the conv=sync,noerror to
ensure the process continued if there was an error.
5) Ran fsck.ext3 on both new conf and data partitions. This ran with no errors
and they mounted just fine.
6) I made the 3rd partition a Solaris swap partition (82H)
7) Moved the 2TB drive to the NSLU2

On NSLU2
1) Booted the NSLU2 with 2TB disk attached
2) Didn't run in unslung mode! So ....
3) Booted the NSLU2 without disk attached.
4) Plugged in the 2TB disk
5) Ran unsling /disk2. Followed instructions:
6) Deleted/Renamed /share/flash/data/.unslung
7) Booted the NSLU2 without disk attached.
8) Plugged in the 2TB disk
9) Ran unsling /disk2 (success!!!!)
10) Entered new password twice.
11) Ran passwd (maybe unnecessary, but I did it anyway)
12) Copied the password file to /etc/passwd (or as per instructions for
unslinging)
13) Rebooted

It still did not run in Unslung mode!!!!!

Please, please can somebody tell me what I am doing wrong. I am running out of
ideas!

All -

I have been running unslung for a couple of weeks, and I was following the
instructions on how to repair disk errors with fsck (boot times were 4-5 min)
and somewhere along the line my Ethernet port died - no Ethernet LED and no
access.

I have tried another cable and port on my switch (no lights there either), tried
booting with and without the external HD - it seems to go thru the motions
(blinking ready/status, HD access, beeps) - but no Ethernet.  It doesn't show up
in upslug either (I can get it into upgrade mode).

Any ideas?  Or is it time to get to the serial port?  Not sure it's worth the
cost to build the TTL/3v3 converter...

Steve

P.S. - I had written a bunch of PHP scripts and just backed them up when this
occurred - whew!

I recently accidently updated a router so that it would not respond to the
internet when configuring IPV6.   However, I had a set of start-up scripts that
it ran from USB.   So by modifying those scripts, I had it dump out various
information about its current state onto the USB stick.   It took lots of
swapping the USB stick back and forth between my computer and the router, but
eventually I managed to debug and correct the problem.

If your NSLU2 is still reading start-up files from an external disk, or USB
stick you can probably do the same to debug the problem.  It could be your
ethernet is simply dead, but having access to the syslog should tell you that
for certain.

Bill

--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "sdleander" <sleander@...> wrote:
>
> All -
>
> I have been running unslung for a couple of weeks, and I was following the
instructions on how to repair disk errors with fsck (boot times were 4-5 min)
and somewhere along the line my Ethernet port died - no Ethernet LED and no
access.
>
> I have tried another cable and port on my switch (no lights there either),
tried booting with and without the external HD - it seems to go thru the motions
(blinking ready/status, HD access, beeps) - but no Ethernet.  It doesn't show up
in upslug either (I can get it into upgrade mode).
>
> Any ideas?  Or is it time to get to the serial port?  Not sure it's worth the
cost to build the TTL/3v3 converter...
>
> Steve
>
> P.S. - I had written a bunch of PHP scripts and just backed them up when this
occurred - whew!
>

Nevermind.... It was just sleeping for 20min or so!  The Ethernet light came
back on, it forgot it's address (switched back to default 192.168.1.77), I was
able to get back in and it's up and running again...

Steve
--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "sdleander" <sleander@...> wrote:
>
> All -
>
> I have been running unslung for a couple of weeks, and I was following the
instructions on how to repair disk errors with fsck (boot times were 4-5 min)
and somewhere along the line my Ethernet port died - no Ethernet LED and no
access.
>
> I have tried another cable and port on my switch (no lights there either),
tried booting with and without the external HD - it seems to go thru the motions
(blinking ready/status, HD access, beeps) - but no Ethernet.  It doesn't show up
in upslug either (I can get it into upgrade mode).
>
> Any ideas?  Or is it time to get to the serial port?  Not sure it's worth the
cost to build the TTL/3v3 converter...
>
> Steve
>
> P.S. - I had written a bunch of PHP scripts and just backed them up when this
occurred - whew!
>

nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com schrieb:
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2a. Slug Ethernet dead, but slug appears functional
>     Posted by: "sdleander" sleander@... sdleander
>     Date: Tue Mar 1, 2011 7:08 pm ((PST))
>
> All -
>
> I have been running unslung for a couple of weeks, and I was following the
instructions on how to repair disk errors with fsck (boot times were 4-5 min)
and somewhere along the line my Ethernet port died - no Ethernet LED and no
access.
>
> I have tried another cable and port on my switch (no lights there either),
tried booting with and without the external HD - it seems to go thru the motions
(blinking ready/status, HD access, beeps) - but no Ethernet.  It doesn't show up
in upslug either (I can get it into upgrade mode).
>
> Any ideas?  Or is it time to get to the serial port?  Not sure it's worth the
cost to build the TTL/3v3 converter...
>
> Steve
>

I had _exactly_ the same around XMAS.
3 Times, each with nearly 2 weeks between.
Then I replaced the Power Supply.
It was gone weak after 3 years.

Mai Kee

Hi there - I just unslung my NSLU2 and had accidentally created a file foo.bar
larger than 2GB and got this error when listing the file:

ls: ./foo.bar: Value too large for defined data type

I wasn't able to ls or rm at that point.

The problem appears that ls was compiled with 32bit addressing.

The solution is to use perl (which is built using 64 bit addressing, downloaded
via ipkg)

   perl -e 'unlink("backup.tar");'

More info here:

http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#Value-too-large-for\
-defined-data-type

You can install the coreutils package. The commands of this package (including
ls and rm) are able to handle files >2GB.

Regards, Roland

--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "trulygilbert" <gil_tsang@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there - I just unslung my NSLU2 and had accidentally created a file foo.bar
larger than 2GB and got this error when listing the file:
>
> ls: ./foo.bar: Value too large for defined data type
>
> I wasn't able to ls or rm at that point.
>
> The problem appears that ls was compiled with 32bit addressing.
>
> The solution is to use perl (which is built using 64 bit addressing,
downloaded via ipkg)
>
>   perl -e 'unlink("backup.tar");'
>
> More info here:
>
>
http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#Value-too-large-for\
-defined-data-type
>

Just installed ipkg on a new pogoplug following the instructions from the
readme.txt at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/files/Plug%20Files/. In general
the instructions were quite good. I have two minor comments.

1. at the end of step 10, I think you need to check and make sure the mount_optX
file is executable.

2. somewhere after step 11 and before step 15, ipkg.conf needs to be edited to
add the line:

src cross http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/cross/stable

Today I'm using the "SheevaPlug" since exactly 6 months (aside of 3
original NSLU2, which are still running).

My recommendation for the alternative, in case anybody is interested in
this:

+ Sheeva pricing is 3 times the price of NSLU2, but 10 times better in
performance (meaning exactly 10x Samba/CIFS read & write speed).
+ Plus, you get external SATA + JTAG connectors.
+ Boot / Root Media is a SD Card
- You get also a serial port, but this is hard wired to a FTDI 232 (or
similiar IC), so the serial port can only be used to TTY in. Mostly used
for UBoot / setting up your 1st ssh user.
- There is only one USB, but since you won't need it for the Boot and
not need it for the HDD, this is not a limitation in my eyes. USB hubs
are cheap, too. (I'm using the USB with a cheap 512MB USB stick as swap
file device)
+ Eth0 is 100MBit, PSU is built in.
+ From NewIT corp., you can get a preconfigured Debian or Ubuntu for a
small amount of extra money, installed on the SD Card. 6 Month ago it
was Debian 5 "Lenny", but I configured APT to also allow Debian 6
"Squeeze" packets. Since some days, Squeeze is called "Stable", so I'll
step up to the next test version sooner or later.
+ Schematics, Bill of Material and all the stuff is included in the
documentation.
+ "x11vnc" and "icewm" is very easy to set up, but "nxp" is said to be
better in performance. Did not tried so far.
- DosBox is running, but default keyboard mapping is wrong, at least
when running DosBox in X11 via x11vnc. I did not fixed this so far,
because DosBox on the Sheeva was just used to impress some friends ;-)
+ The device is getting moderate warm with Debian Squeeze. When idle, it
is at ~39°C. When serving my AVOX Radio with music files (Samba) and an
EVA8000
with video (or dia show + music) (also Samba) the same time, it is at ~
47°C in a room with 24°C. I heard about some people added a 40mm slow
fan to it, but for my eyes, this is only required for the PogoPlug.
+ Finally, eSATA "idle spindown" and spinup on demand, works like a
charm (with ICYBOX housing and WD 10EACS Green 1TB disk).


I got mine at "NewIT" company, UK. They ship also to Germany
(VISA/Mastercard payment). This took up to 2 weeks,  but it was okay for
me. I think, I'll soon purchase 2 more units and wreck my remaining NSLU2s.


HTH,
Mai Kee

Hello Bruce,
Thanks for the heads up.  I added your changes to readme.txt and added the
repository information in plug.tar.gz.

--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "bruce" <bturrie@...> wrote:
>
> Just installed ipkg on a new pogoplug following the instructions from the
readme.txt at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/files/Plug%20Files/. In general
the instructions were quite good. I have two minor comments.
>
> 1. at the end of step 10, I think you need to check and make sure the
mount_optX file is executable.
>
> 2. somewhere after step 11 and before step 15, ipkg.conf needs to be edited to
add the line:
>
> src cross http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/cross/stable
>

Is the Chumby One another alternative? woot.com has this on sale,
today only, $49.99 + $5 shipping.

But I've decided to keep my NSLU2 until I can get a device with the following:

- 5 or 10 watts power consumption (excluding disk drives)
- two USB 3.0 ports OR high-speed external drive connection
- 1000 Mb/s Ethernet
- mainstream Linux so no extensive hacks needed

I'm a little surprised nobody is offering such a gizmotron but it is a
geeky device I suppose, not consumer oriented.


On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Mai Kee Reis
<maik_nospam_reiss@...> wrote:
> Today I'm using the "SheevaPlug" since exactly 6 months (aside of 3
> original NSLU2, which are still running).
>
> My recommendation for the alternative, in case anybody is interested in
> this:
>
> + Sheeva pricing is 3 times the price of NSLU2, but 10 times better in
> performance (meaning exactly 10x Samba/CIFS read & write speed).
> + Plus, you get external SATA + JTAG connectors.
> + Boot / Root Media is a SD Card
> - You get also a serial port, but this is hard wired to a FTDI 232 (or
> similiar IC), so the serial port can only be used to TTY in. Mostly used
> for UBoot / setting up your 1st ssh user.
> - There is only one USB, but since you won't need it for the Boot and
> not need it for the HDD, this is not a limitation in my eyes. USB hubs
> are cheap, too. (I'm using the USB with a cheap 512MB USB stick as swap
> file device)
> + Eth0 is 100MBit, PSU is built in.
> + From NewIT corp., you can get a preconfigured Debian or Ubuntu for a
> small amount of extra money, installed on the SD Card. 6 Month ago it
> was Debian 5 "Lenny", but I configured APT to also allow Debian 6
> "Squeeze" packets. Since some days, Squeeze is called "Stable", so I'll
> step up to the next test version sooner or later.
> + Schematics, Bill of Material and all the stuff is included in the
> documentation.
> + "x11vnc" and "icewm" is very easy to set up, but "nxp" is said to be
> better in performance. Did not tried so far.
> - DosBox is running, but default keyboard mapping is wrong, at least
> when running DosBox in X11 via x11vnc. I did not fixed this so far,
> because DosBox on the Sheeva was just used to impress some friends ;-)
> + The device is getting moderate warm with Debian Squeeze. When idle, it
> is at ~39°C. When serving my AVOX Radio with music files (Samba) and an
> EVA8000
> with video (or dia show + music) (also Samba) the same time, it is at ~
> 47°C in a room with 24°C. I heard about some people added a 40mm slow
> fan to it, but for my eyes, this is only required for the PogoPlug.
> + Finally, eSATA "idle spindown" and spinup on demand, works like a
> charm (with ICYBOX housing and WD 10EACS Green 1TB disk).
>
>
> I got mine at "NewIT" company, UK. They ship also to Germany
> (VISA/Mastercard payment). This took up to 2 weeks,  but it was okay for
> me. I think, I'll soon purchase 2 more units and wreck my remaining NSLU2s.
>
>
> HTH,
> Mai Kee
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

This is an interesting alternative.   It looks like you can even run debian on
it, but only in a chroot type environment.   The lack of a built-in Ethernet
port adds a bit to the overall costs, but definitely something worth considering
for anyone with a dead NSLU2 that needs replacing.



--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph&Maria Finch" <ralphmariafinch@...>
wrote:
>
> Is the Chumby One another alternative? woot.com has this on sale,
> today only, $49.99 + $5 shipping.
>
> But I've decided to keep my NSLU2 until I can get a device with the following:
>
> - 5 or 10 watts power consumption (excluding disk drives)
> - two USB 3.0 ports OR high-speed external drive connection
> - 1000 Mb/s Ethernet
> - mainstream Linux so no extensive hacks needed
>
> I'm a little surprised nobody is offering such a gizmotron but it is a
> geeky device I suppose, not consumer oriented.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Mai Kee Reis
> <maik_nospam_reiss@...> wrote:
> > Today I'm using the "SheevaPlug" since exactly 6 months (aside of 3
> > original NSLU2, which are still running).
> >
> > My recommendation for the alternative, in case anybody is interested in
> > this:
> >
> > + Sheeva pricing is 3 times the price of NSLU2, but 10 times better in
> > performance (meaning exactly 10x Samba/CIFS read & write speed).
> > + Plus, you get external SATA + JTAG connectors.
> > + Boot / Root Media is a SD Card
> > - You get also a serial port, but this is hard wired to a FTDI 232 (or
> > similiar IC), so the serial port can only be used to TTY in. Mostly used
> > for UBoot / setting up your 1st ssh user.
> > - There is only one USB, but since you won't need it for the Boot and
> > not need it for the HDD, this is not a limitation in my eyes. USB hubs
> > are cheap, too. (I'm using the USB with a cheap 512MB USB stick as swap
> > file device)
> > + Eth0 is 100MBit, PSU is built in.
> > + From NewIT corp., you can get a preconfigured Debian or Ubuntu for a
> > small amount of extra money, installed on the SD Card. 6 Month ago it
> > was Debian 5 "Lenny", but I configured APT to also allow Debian 6
> > "Squeeze" packets. Since some days, Squeeze is called "Stable", so I'll
> > step up to the next test version sooner or later.
> > + Schematics, Bill of Material and all the stuff is included in the
> > documentation.
> > + "x11vnc" and "icewm" is very easy to set up, but "nxp" is said to be
> > better in performance. Did not tried so far.
> > - DosBox is running, but default keyboard mapping is wrong, at least
> > when running DosBox in X11 via x11vnc. I did not fixed this so far,
> > because DosBox on the Sheeva was just used to impress some friends ;-)
> > + The device is getting moderate warm with Debian Squeeze. When idle, it
> > is at ~39�C. When serving my AVOX Radio with music files (Samba) and an
> > EVA8000
> > with video (or dia show + music) (also Samba) the same time, it is at ~
> > 47�C in a room with 24�C. I heard about some people added a 40mm slow
> > fan to it, but for my eyes, this is only required for the PogoPlug.
> > + Finally, eSATA "idle spindown" and spinup on demand, works like a
> > charm (with ICYBOX housing and WD 10EACS Green 1TB disk).
> >
> >
> > I got mine at "NewIT" company, UK. They ship also to Germany
> > (VISA/Mastercard payment). This took up to 2 weeks, �but it was okay for
> > me. I think, I'll soon purchase 2 more units and wreck my remaining NSLU2s.
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> > Mai Kee
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

> But I've decided to keep my NSLU2 until I can get a device with the following:
>
> - 5 or 10 watts power consumption (excluding disk drives)
> - two USB 3.0 ports OR high-speed external drive connection
> - 1000 Mb/s Ethernet
> - mainstream Linux so no extensive hacks needed
>
> I'm a little surprised nobody is offering such a gizmotron but it is a
> geeky device I suppose, not consumer oriented.

Apart from the USB 3.0 (is that even mainstream yet?), there are devices that
fit that bill although not necessarily cheap: for example, the fit-pc
(http://www.fit-pc.com) that I previously mentioned has 5-8W consumption, 6 USB
2.0 ports, 1000 Mb/s ethernet and the ability to boot from sd/usb or internal
sata HDD.  It is available without HDD, or with HDD and linux installed,
although of course you can install whatever OS you wish.  Mine is a great,
powerful, replacement for my nslu2.

Irregular Shed reports that when he did "ipkg install optware-devel", and
wget-ssl was installed, it was missing libidn which kinda knocks out wget. 
Luckily he was able to restore the old wget.  So please place libidn on the
dependency list of wget-ssl.
Thank you.

I guess if the Chumby One can be on the list so can the Sony Dash.  It has a
bigger screen.

--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <yahoo@...> wrote:
>
> This is an interesting alternative.   It looks like you can even run debian on
it, but only in a chroot type environment.   The lack of a built-in Ethernet
port adds a bit to the overall costs, but definitely something worth considering
for anyone with a dead NSLU2 that needs replacing.
>
>
>
> --- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph&Maria Finch" <ralphmariafinch@>
wrote:
> >
> > Is the Chumby One another alternative? woot.com has this on sale,
> > today only, $49.99 + $5 shipping.
> >
> > But I've decided to keep my NSLU2 until I can get a device with the
following:
> >
> > - 5 or 10 watts power consumption (excluding disk drives)
> > - two USB 3.0 ports OR high-speed external drive connection
> > - 1000 Mb/s Ethernet
> > - mainstream Linux so no extensive hacks needed
> >
> > I'm a little surprised nobody is offering such a gizmotron but it is a
> > geeky device I suppose, not consumer oriented.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Mai Kee Reis
> > <maik_nospam_reiss@> wrote:
> > > Today I'm using the "SheevaPlug" since exactly 6 months (aside of 3
> > > original NSLU2, which are still running).
> > >
> > > My recommendation for the alternative, in case anybody is interested in
> > > this:
> > >
> > > + Sheeva pricing is 3 times the price of NSLU2, but 10 times better in
> > > performance (meaning exactly 10x Samba/CIFS read & write speed).
> > > + Plus, you get external SATA + JTAG connectors.
> > > + Boot / Root Media is a SD Card
> > > - You get also a serial port, but this is hard wired to a FTDI 232 (or
> > > similiar IC), so the serial port can only be used to TTY in. Mostly used
> > > for UBoot / setting up your 1st ssh user.
> > > - There is only one USB, but since you won't need it for the Boot and
> > > not need it for the HDD, this is not a limitation in my eyes. USB hubs
> > > are cheap, too. (I'm using the USB with a cheap 512MB USB stick as swap
> > > file device)
> > > + Eth0 is 100MBit, PSU is built in.
> > > + From NewIT corp., you can get a preconfigured Debian or Ubuntu for a
> > > small amount of extra money, installed on the SD Card. 6 Month ago it
> > > was Debian 5 "Lenny", but I configured APT to also allow Debian 6
> > > "Squeeze" packets. Since some days, Squeeze is called "Stable", so I'll
> > > step up to the next test version sooner or later.
> > > + Schematics, Bill of Material and all the stuff is included in the
> > > documentation.
> > > + "x11vnc" and "icewm" is very easy to set up, but "nxp" is said to be
> > > better in performance. Did not tried so far.
> > > - DosBox is running, but default keyboard mapping is wrong, at least
> > > when running DosBox in X11 via x11vnc. I did not fixed this so far,
> > > because DosBox on the Sheeva was just used to impress some friends ;-)
> > > + The device is getting moderate warm with Debian Squeeze. When idle, it
> > > is at ~39�C. When serving my AVOX Radio with music files (Samba) and an
> > > EVA8000
> > > with video (or dia show + music) (also Samba) the same time, it is at ~
> > > 47�C in a room with 24�C. I heard about some people added a 40mm slow
> > > fan to it, but for my eyes, this is only required for the PogoPlug.
> > > + Finally, eSATA "idle spindown" and spinup on demand, works like a
> > > charm (with ICYBOX housing and WD 10EACS Green 1TB disk).
> > >
> > >
> > > I got mine at "NewIT" company, UK. They ship also to Germany
> > > (VISA/Mastercard payment). This took up to 2 weeks, �but it was okay for
> > > me. I think, I'll soon purchase 2 more units and wreck my remaining
NSLU2s.
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Mai Kee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

isn't the Dash a Chumby in different packaging?
________________________________________________________________________________\
___

Disclaimers: I have entered into no agreements regarding mails erroneously sent
to this address, and reserve the right to do as I wish with any such emails.

Yeah that's why I said if the Chumby One is on the list then so should Dash,
it's sometimes cheaper than the Chumby One on Amazon, same OS but better specs. 
It's basically the Chumby's
Semi-Illegitimate-Half-Stepbrother-on-it's-father's-side-but-mom-was-fooling-aro\
und-with the-mailman-but-could-not-get-on-springer-sibling.
http://www.tested.com/news/chumby-and-sony-dash-are-hackable-internet-appliances\
/219/

--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, Paul M <pmooney22@...> wrote:
>
> isn't the Dash a Chumby in different packaging?
>
________________________________________________________________________________\
___
>
> Disclaimers: I have entered into no agreements regarding mails erroneously
sent to this address, and reserve the right to do as I wish with any such
emails.
>

Just upscale to the Chumby and the Dash is the Insignia Infocast 8 which is
actually cheaper than either one at bestbuy.  Interesting that as the specs get
more advanced, the cheaper it gets.  Chalk it up to popularity.  So think of the
Dash as a Chubby Chumby and the Infocast as a Chunky Chumby.  Brings tears to my
eyes when it causes me to think of fat and obese slugs.

--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, Paul M <pmooney22@...> wrote:
>
> isn't the Dash a Chumby in different packaging?
>
________________________________________________________________________________\
___
>
> Disclaimers: I have entered into no agreements regarding mails erroneously
sent to this address, and reserve the right to do as I wish with any such
emails.
>

I was talking with a co-worker about these gizmotrons and we thought, why
not combine this with a wireless router?  Then the total specs would be:



.         Idle power consumption 5-10 watts

.         fanless

.         Wireless N protocol

.         1000 Mb/s Ethernet

.         two USB2.0 and two USB3.0 or eSATA ports

.         IP6 fully capable

.         2 SSIDs, one for owner use, one for guests (throttleable, turn
on/off separately, encrypt or not separately)

.         No proprietary OS changes (mainstream Linux)

.         Many options accessible via onboard website, remote command line
login via SSH or similar



The Fit-PC is an intriguing device to be sure. I think we're getting close
to an ideal.



From: nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of stripwax
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:50 PM
To: nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [nslu2-general] Re: Another alternative to the SLUG





> But I've decided to keep my NSLU2 until I can get a device with the
following:
>
> - 5 or 10 watts power consumption (excluding disk drives)
> - two USB 3.0 ports OR high-speed external drive connection
> - 1000 Mb/s Ethernet
> - mainstream Linux so no extensive hacks needed
>
> I'm a little surprised nobody is offering such a gizmotron but it is a
> geeky device I suppose, not consumer oriented.

Apart from the USB 3.0 (is that even mainstream yet?), there are devices
that fit that bill although not necessarily cheap: for example, the fit-pc
(http://www.fit-pc.com) that I previously mentioned has 5-8W consumption, 6
USB 2.0 ports, 1000 Mb/s ethernet and the ability to boot from sd/usb or
internal sata HDD. It is available without HDD, or with HDD and linux
installed, although of course you can install whatever OS you wish. Mine is
a great, powerful, replacement for my nslu2.





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--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <yahoo@...> wrote:
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> This is an interesting alternative.   It looks like you can even run
> debian on it, but only in a chroot type environment.   The lack of a
> built-in Ethernet port adds a bit to the overall costs, but definitely
> something worth considering for anyone with a dead NSLU2 that needs
> replacing.

I've got a Chumby One. Really like it. I've never really done much with it
beyond the out-the-box usage, though.

My favourite thing is an Easter Egg though - besides being able to start an SSH
daemon, as soon as you plug a USB keyboard in you get a working terminal on
screen. Tiny font, but actually quite usable.

Of course it looks like none of these alternatives are available in Canada at a
reasonable price.

Recently I have been migrating most of my services off my NSLU2's to my Asus
RT16.   With DD-WRT the usb support was too flaky to consider, but with
tomatoUSB those issues have been resolved.  As a router it is great.  As a NSLU2
replacement, it is not much of an upgrade.  You are not going to install debian
natively.  So you are limited to Optware, and possibly debian with a chroot
environment.  Some of the Optware packages, such as the one for Apache do not
appear to work.   Many others require minor tweaks in their configurations to
work.

Speed wise, the Asus RT16 has a 480 MHz CPU which can overclocked by about 10%. 
(Actually 480 MHz is the CPU being underclocked.)  Depending on how you measure
file transfers are about 30-50% faster.  Which for me is just enough so I can
stream 720P without stutters or skips on my media player.   The nicest thing
though is the 128MB of ram instead of 32MB found in the NSLU2.

Bill

--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "allthedecentnameshavegone"
<irregularshed@...> wrote:
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> --- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <yahoo@> wrote:
> >
> > This is an interesting alternative.   It looks like you can even run
> > debian on it, but only in a chroot type environment.   The lack of a
> > built-in Ethernet port adds a bit to the overall costs, but definitely
> > something worth considering for anyone with a dead NSLU2 that needs
> > replacing.
>
> I've got a Chumby One. Really like it. I've never really done much with it
beyond the out-the-box usage, though.
>
> My favourite thing is an Easter Egg though - besides being able to start an
SSH daemon, as soon as you plug a USB keyboard in you get a working terminal on
screen. Tiny font, but actually quite usable.
>

I'm considering fitting one of the more permanent auto-power-on mods described
at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ForcePowerAlwaysOn.

Once that's fitted, is it still possible to get the slug into upgrade mode (i.e.
paper clip in reset hole, apply power, wait 10secs/leds, release reset) or does
upgrade entry rely on starting with the power-on button?

I'm not planning on needing to use the upgrade mode, but it might be necessary
if a Debian re-install is needed or something. Hence the answer may dictate
using one of the easily removed external mods rather than the intern wire I'm
planning (option 6).

adflyer_09 wrote:
> I'm considering fitting one of the more permanent auto-power-on mods described
at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ForcePowerAlwaysOn.
>

Choose wisely. ;)

> Once that's fitted, is it still possible to get the slug into upgrade mode
(i.e. paper clip in reset hole, apply power, wait 10secs/leds, release reset) or
does upgrade entry rely on starting with the power-on button?
>
Certainly you can enter upgrade mode with the reset button -- it relies
on the approx 10 second period from power-up, regardless of the state of
the power button at power-up.

> I'm not planning on needing to use the upgrade mode, but it might be necessary
if a Debian re-install is needed or something. Hence the answer may dictate
using one of the easily removed external mods rather than the intern wire I'm
planning (option 6).
>
While it's open, you might like to ensure that you have
"de-underclocked" it as well.

-Mike (mwester)

I'm a newcomer to this list
I've designed  some hardware that might interest some of you:
http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-en.html
in french:
http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-fr.html
thanks to the nslu2-linux.org web site
--
Marc BERLIOUX





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Hey, thanks for your prompt answer. I'd previously replied but the post never
appeared, so here it is (roughly) again...

--- In nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com, Mike Westerhof <mwester@...> wrote:
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> adflyer_09 wrote:
> > I'm considering fitting one of the more permanent auto-power-on mods
described at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ForcePowerAlwaysOn.
> >
>
> Choose wisely. ;)

Why is there more to it than meets the eye? I was going to go for alternative 7
- the simple wire...

> >
> While it's open, you might like to ensure that you have
> "de-underclocked" it as well.

Oh that was done long ago!

Marc,

Thanks for sharing this!

Greg

On 3/28/2011 11:09 AM, Marc Berlioux wrote:
> I'm a newcomer to this list
> I've designed  some hardware that might interest some of you:
> http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-en.html
> in french:
> http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-fr.html
> thanks to the nslu2-linux.org web site
> --
> Marc BERLIOUX
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> Marc,

> Thanks for sharing this!
> Greg

It's 1 year of hard work but :
it's been made thanks to the free documentation from the nslu2-linux.org web
site
it's been made with free software
it runs with free software
it's been made on my free time

I'm currently working on making an OpenWRT package of the Web and command line
interfaces and separate the localisation layer from the actions layer IOT make
translations easier.

Maybe i'll put some Paypal buttons for those who might want to offer me a
coffee, a beer or a pizza.

Meanwhile, feel free to build your own !

http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-en.html
http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-fr.html

--
Marc BERLIOUX
"The planet is not under any threat by homo sapiens.
It will still be here long after we are extinguished."

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COOL!

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Marc Berlioux
<marcberlioux@...>wrote:

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> I'm a newcomer to this list
> I've designed some hardware that might interest some of you:
> http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-en.html
> in french:
> http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-fr.html
> thanks to the nslu2-linux.org web site
> --
> Marc BERLIOUX
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Thats nice! And a good inspiration, I might not build the whole card but
may use parts of it.

Regards Patrik

On 2011-03-30 18:49, Richard Hughes wrote:
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> COOL!
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> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Marc Berlioux
> <marcberlioux@... <mailto:marcberlioux%40rocketmail.com>>wrote:
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> > I'm a newcomer to this list
> > I've designed some hardware that might interest some of you:
> > http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-en.html
> > in french:
> > http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-fr.html
> > thanks to the nslu2-linux.org web site
> > --
> > Marc BERLIOUX
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Next one is for WRT54G
it's a bit off-topic, but not that much
http://berlioux.com/electronique/wrt-sim/wrt-sim.html

features: RS232, 1-wire, SD card
the documentation is in progress

I've put some Paypal buttons on my boomerang pages for philantropic guys who
want to support me
regards
--
Marc BERLIOUX
"Reality ? Isn't that where the pizza delivery guy comes from ? "



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From: Richard Hughes <richardhughes260@...>
To: nslu2-general@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 6:49:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nslu2-general] Home Automation board for NSLU2

COOL!

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Marc Berlioux
<marcberlioux@...>wrote:

>
>
> I'm a newcomer to this list
> I've designed some hardware that might interest some of you:
> http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-en.html
> in french:
> http://berlioux.com/electronique/boomerang/boomerang-fr.html
> thanks to the nslu2-linux.org web site
> --
> Marc BERLIOUX
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