Lotta,

I am not a programmer. Can you tell me what abSee would be used for?

Bob Pigors, Kaneohe Hawaii (UTC -10)

====================================================

abSee100 v1.00 [82k] W9x/NT/2k FREE

http://www.blueheronmoon.com/software/installs/abSee_In.exe
http://www.blueheronmoon.com/software/abSee.htm
http://screenshot.lockergnome.com/absee.png

{Font viewer with perks} Another digital seer? Yeah, but this one is
different. How much would you pay for a font viewer with a drag-
and-drop interface that lets you change both the background and
foreground colors (including Web-safe shades)? What if it could also
view fonts that you haven't installed yet? But wait -- there's more!
Saving the preview as a bitmap (BMP) image is a snap. I bet you'd also
like a live link to more fonts on the Web, too. That's included, kids.
Now how much would you pay? Yeah, I'd rather save the dime, too...
that's why this is free. Better call Mr. Popeil -- I'm in trouble.

Hello Bob,

>Lotta,
>I am not a programmer. Can you tell me what abSee would be used for?

Neither am I. There must be some mixup here. I have never heard of abSee.
Must be someone else that have mentioned it. It seems nice thought, so I'm
downloading it right now. Thanks!

A font viewer is a tool that lets you view  all the fonts that may be
available on your computer to make it easier to choose which you want. Many
of them only shows installed fonts, but abSee seems to handle not installed
too. Meaning you can download fonts from  the Internet and keep them in any
folder, view them with a tool like this and install only when and if you
want to. Something like that.

Bye,
Lotta



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Sorry Lotta,

I thought you used NTP to program/develop web pages. In any event it
appears that abSee seemed interesting to you.  If it turns out to be
useful please let me know.


Mahalo - Bob Pigors, Kaneohe Hawaii (UTC -10)

Hello Bob,

>I thought you used NTP to program/develop web pages. In any event it
>appears that abSee seemed interesting to you.

Seems like the mistake was mine. I thought some earlier post had mentioned
abSee.

In HTML land you are basically limited to the fonts available on the user's
system. That may vary, so the only fonts that are safe to use are the very
common ones like Courier New, Arial and a few more. I've noticed that the
fonts shipped with MS seems to vary depending on where in the world you
live, which limits the choice even more.

To use an unusual font for short "snips" like a link or some other short
text one can always use the preferred font in a graphic editor and create
an image of the text.  Then a font viewer can come in handy so you don't
have to keep all fonts on your machine installed.

Hope I got it right this time :-)
Lotta

Lotta,

You got it right. Thanks for the enlightenment. - Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lotta" <loro@...>
To: <ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 10:21
Subject: Re: [NTO] unreal font viewer


> Hello Bob,
>
> >I thought you used NTP to program/develop web pages. In any event it
> >appears that abSee seemed interesting to you.
>
> Seems like the mistake was mine. I thought some earlier post had
mentioned
> abSee.
>
> In HTML land you are basically limited to the fonts available on the
user's
> system. That may vary, so the only fonts that are safe to use are the
very
> common ones like Courier New, Arial and a few more. I've noticed that
the
> fonts shipped with MS seems to vary depending on where in the world
you
> live, which limits the choice even more.
>
> To use an unusual font for short "snips" like a link or some other
short
> text one can always use the preferred font in a graphic editor and
create
> an image of the text.  Then a font viewer can come in handy so you
don't
> have to keep all fonts on your machine installed.
>
> Hope I got it right this time :-)
> Lotta

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Alle 21.21 Friday 02/02/2001 +0100, Lotta ha mandato a Marco questo messaggio:

>In HTML land you are basically limited to the fonts available on the user's
>system. That may vary, so the only fonts that are safe to use are the very
>common ones like Courier New, Arial and a few more.

And don't forget Mac fonts: Helvetica for Arial and so on.
This page is very interesting:
http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-font-970721

BTW, less font you install more fast run your Windows!
Just put less used fonts into a separate folder and install them just when
you need them.

Bye!

Marco Bernardini

Hi Marco

>BTW, less font you install more fast run your Windows! Just put
>less used fonts into a separate folder and install them just when
>you need them.

I learned of that trick a long time ago.  I wonder if programs
will do with them like it does .dll files as far as if I put them
in the folder of the programs I use them with then they will be
seen?

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>I learned of that trick a long time ago.  I wonder if programs
>will do with them like it does .dll files as far as if I put them
>in the folder of the programs I use them with then they will be
>seen?

"Usually" programs can see only installed fonts.
But, in the same way font viewers are able to open a ttf file, I bet a
program can use an uninstalled font...
Must try, one of these days.

Bye!

Marco Bernardini

Hi Marco

>"Usually" programs can see only installed fonts. But, in the same
>way font viewers are able to open a ttf file, I bet a program can
>use an uninstalled font... Must try, one of these days.

Yes, one of these days... ;)  Say, when's the espresso beans
gonna get here?  I got me a new espresso machine for Christmas! :-)

Happy Test'n,
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Hi Beret, Harvey, and Others,

We need to take this to private eMail now or the Off-Topic list.
See below for the sign-up and my comments.  I'm sending the two
post from Beret and Harvey, plus this one over there.

>> I set up an update page for you.  There are notes on the page:
>> http://www.notetab.net/html/win95.htm
>
>Some of the links are dead:
>
>-KERNEL32 Update
>-Win95 OLE32 Update
>-System Updates
>
>cannot find a kernel update via microsoft-windows' main update
>page either.


You should have all the updates in IE5, but maybe that is what
broke it?  Did it start happening when you installed or upgraded
IE?  (Off-Topic list please:)

They were good the other day - I'll check, they might be those
kind that expire so people cannot use direct download links or MS
already changed the links.  That's why I gave the WinMag site who
is forever checking MS who is forever changing their links.  There
was a separate link for some of the files.

You might try this link and scroll through till you find kernal32:

Choose Windows 95 and Windows 95 in both fields searching by Product:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?PR=CHS&FR=0&M=S&

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?releaseid=12742
English Update, try replacing the EN-US with the German pages ;)
Or change the pages to your country when first starting?
http://download.microsoft.com/download/win95upg/whitepap/1/W95/EN-US/Kernel.exe

Thanks for the info Harvey. Sometimes the updates MS used on the
Win95 would not do anything if it already saw a current or newer
on the drive though and I suspect doing it through the online is
an automatic type thing.  WinMag has the same kind of Active Update
Center thing.

You might get the Kernal PowerToys and/or regular PowerToys.  One
of them lets you read .cab files off a CD if you do not already
have a means.  I think WinZip supports it now.  Anyway, I don't
know the cabs, but since a reformat seems to fix the problem,
then that would indicate the files on the CD should fix it if you
can get the right files.  I don't think DECOM95 (which is the
main one you want) is on the 95 CD.  In fact, read this from
WinMag on CAB files:

http://www.winmag.com/windows/win95/tips.htm

PowerToys (Has the cab file thing)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/contents/wutoys/w95pwrtoysset/defau\
lt.asp

List of OS' for Tips
http://tips.winmag.com/?ls=wmnavtips

Hot Fixes Page
http://www.winmag.com/fixes/default.htm

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beret wrote:
>
> Jody,
> > I set up an update page for you.  There are notes on the page:
> > http://www.notetab.net/html/win95.htm
>
> Some of the links are dead:
>
> -KERNEL32 Update
> -Win95 OLE32 Update
> -System Updates
>
> bert.
>
Hi,

Bert and Jody,

I don't know if this will be of any help but I use both sites
below to try to keep my computer software updated.

Both links work pretty well.  They both scan your hard drive to
check for needed updates and the both come up with somewhat
different results.

The only thing you may not like is, the cnet site has to download
and install a small program on your hard drive.  I've had it for
several months and it is, apparently, safe.

Just pay attention to the term of the found updates, some are
updates while others are upgrades.  The upgrades are either
time-limited or will cost for purchase of software.

If you've already tried these with no help, sorry, but thay are
handy to have around for a quick check.

http://catchup.cnet.com/

http://updates.zdnet.com/

hrs

Jody,
> I set up an update page for you.  There are notes on the page:
> http://www.notetab.net/html/win95.htm

Some of the links are dead:

-KERNEL32 Update
-Win95 OLE32 Update
-System Updates

cannot find a kernel update via microsoft-windows' main update page
either.

bert.

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Jody wrote:

> I set up an update page for you.  There are notes on the page:
> http://www.notetab.net/html/win95.htm

The ghost is back in the bottle, for a while ;-).
installing DCOM95 did it :-).
After saving some 50 file under various conditions today I think I can
make this statement without the need of knocking on wood.

Perhaps a recent re-install of a prety old version of Norton Systemworkd
has been causing the problem. Found a much older version of DCOM95
somehwere in nortons' program-directories. Some DLL's must hav gone out
of sync.
Next time I know what suspucious things are to look at.

My personal notetab-supportpage is in my personal archives, so you may
delete it as far as I'm concerned.

Jody Thanks again,
And as soon as I can find Notetab Pro on the shelf of some computerstore
in this village called the Netherlands, I will very seriously consider
bying it.:-)

> Happy NoteTab'n,


for once, "yes indeed".

bert.

Hello All,

Grant, I noticed your post in XnView newsgroup re french msgs. I
discovered a handy web utility that may be helpful.

(posting here for the benefit of NoteTab users...explained below)

http://www.alis.com:5050/cgi-bin/tempdemo.pl

I pasted in the following:

-----
Bonjour,

Je cherche une personne sur Uzes dans le Gard sachant me
paramétrer
une
connexion pour un pc (celui de ma fille) moi je ne peux pas me
déplacer pour
quelques jours encore =(((((((
rien de bien sorcier  sys : windaube98 (connexion internet).....
merci de me répondre

A Pluches

Bernard
-----

hit the button and quickly generated this return:

-----
Hello,

I seek a person on Uzes in Gard knowing to parameterize me
a connection for a PC (that of my daughter) me I cannot still move
for a few days =(((((((
nothing good wizard sys: windaube98 (connection internet)...
thank you to answer me

In Pluches

Bernard
-----

While the returned translation is not *Oklahoma-Speak* (my
preference) it is somewhat understandable. :)

Why I posted this here (the *below* part referred to above): If one
of our usergroup members here whose first language is not english, to
maybe get a better idea of what is said here, or for our english-
speaking (debatable, in my case...) members to quickly translate a
native language post from a member who may not be confident of
entirely making their point in english, and can submit their more
eloquent native language post along with their best english effort.

The free online demo service includes English, French, German,
Spanish, Italian, Japanese, and Portugese, translating from any one
language to any other (I suppose the *payme* versions do even more).

While I am personally very glad most Note Tab List members post in
English, this utility may be helpful in certain occasional cases...

regards,

tf

ps:
BigHappyBirthday(belated) Jody. Tnx for all your help.

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Alle 00.28 Monday 05/02/2001 +0000, thefrank ha mandato a Marco questo
messaggio:

>http://www.alis.com:5050/cgi-bin/tempdemo.pl

I try to translate "rami secchi" (dead branches): it wrote "coppers buckets"...
Well, it's a hard thing to translate, because "rami" is the Italian plural
for both "ramo" (branch) and "rame" (copper), but almost never used in
Italian for "coppers", and "secchi" match "secco" (dry, or dead) and
"secchio" (bucket).
As usual there is a lot of words that can't be translated correctly out of
their contest, but if I speak of copper buckets on my pruning page it
becomes as famous as the Larry Bird page when translated in Italian!

Bye!

Marco Bernardini

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I hope this site is a hoax: www.bonsaikitten.com

THESE GUYS MAKE BONSAI WITH KITTEN!

Here is an abstract from their intro page:
"By physically constraining the growth of a developing living thing, it can
be directed to take the shape of the vessel that constrains it. Just as a
topiary gardener produces bushes that take the forms of animals or any
other thing, you no longer need be satisfied with a housepet having the
same mundane shape as all other members of its species. With Bonsai Kitten, a
world of variation awaits you, limited only by your own imagination."

And here is the address (from http://swhois.net)
Dr. Michael Wong Chang
PO Box 94976E
New York, NY 10027
US
212-662-7544

For a guy like this one, tar and feathers aren't enough...

Please distribute this message to all your feline lovers friends.

Bye

Marco Bernardini
webmaster@...

Hi Marco,

I forwarded your message to the New York SPCA.  The site looked real to me.
I hope they can put a stop to this!

DA

> I hope this site is a hoax: www.bonsaikitten.com
>
> THESE GUYS MAKE BONSAI WITH KITTEN!
>
> Here is an abstract from their intro page:
> "By physically constraining the growth of a developing living thing, it can
> be directed to take the shape of the vessel that constrains it. Just as a
> topiary gardener produces bushes that take the forms of animals or any
> other thing, you no longer need be satisfied with a housepet having the
> same mundane shape as all other members of its species. With Bonsai Kitten, a
> world of variation awaits you, limited only by your own imagination."
>
> And here is the address (from http://swhois.net)
> Dr. Michael Wong Chang
> PO Box 94976E
> New York, NY 10027
> US
> 212-662-7544
>
> For a guy like this one, tar and feathers aren't enough...
>
> Please distribute this message to all your feline lovers friends.

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Alle 15.03 Monday 05/02/2001 -0800, DA ha mandato a Marco questo messaggio:


>I forwarded your message to the New York SPCA.  The site looked real to me.
>I hope they can put a stop to this!
>
>DA

Even if it's not real, it's like to speak of ovens into a synagogue... true
bad taste!

BTW, what's the SPCA?

Bye!

Marco Bernardini

Marco Bernardini wrote:
>
>
BTW, what's the / Society for the Prevemtion of Cruelty to
Animals?
>
> Bye!
>
> Marco Bernardini
>
hrs

I am truly appalled!  Even if this isn't for real, the sick mind who would
put this together is ... ( I can't even think of an apt description for this
less than human sewage).  Perhaps we should find a large bottle, encase him,
and then force feed him with lots of fattening foods so he "grows" as a fat,
contorted tree!

Nancy

Nancy Bernardine-Widmer
Bernardine Fine Art Jewelry
http://www.bernardine.com
nancy@...

Um, I think this was intended as a joke. If you read it, especially the
"quotes" by people on the guestbook page it's obviously all made up. I knew
it was fake for sure when I read the part about the super glue. The guys
sense of humor can certianly be called into question, but all you cat lovers
can rest assured that this is just a joke and that no cats were harmed in
the making of the site. That was obvious from the pictures. It might have
been more believeable if the guy had done some photoshop work to make it
look like they were actually shaped differently or something.

This is pure speculation on my part, but the author may have been trying to
make a point, rather than just a bad joke. A "point out absurdity by being
absurd" kind of thing. We geneticly modify plants and animals already, and
it's getting to the point where people can decide the personality of their
children, color of hair, etc. with the DNA modification work they're doing.
If people have no problem with that, why not decide you want your pet to be
shaped differently than the way God made it?

But then again, the guy may just have a twisted sense of humor. Who knows.
One thing's for sure: there's no lack of strange things to be found on the
web!

Emmett Hawkins

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>
> I hope this site is a hoax: www.bonsaikitten.com
>
> THESE GUYS MAKE BONSAI WITH KITTEN!
>
> Here is an abstract from their intro page:
> "By physically constraining the growth of a developing living thing, it
can
> be directed to take the shape of the vessel that constrains it. Just as a
> topiary gardener produces bushes that take the forms of animals or any
> other thing, you no longer need be satisfied with a housepet having the
> same mundane shape as all other members of its species. With Bonsai
Kitten, a
> world of variation awaits you, limited only by your own imagination."
>
> And here is the address (from http://swhois.net)
> Dr. Michael Wong Chang
> PO Box 94976E
> New York, NY 10027
> US
> 212-662-7544
>
> For a guy like this one, tar and feathers aren't enough...
>
> Please distribute this message to all your feline lovers friends.
>
> Bye
>
> Marco Bernardini
> webmaster@...
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi All,

I took another look at the site.  Emmett might be right.  Too many of the things
on the site seem to go too far to be real.  If it is a hoax, I vote
for Emmett's twisted sense of humor theory rather than some obscure point
the author is making.  What a lot of work for just a private laugh!

DA

ceh wrote:
>
> Um, I think this was intended as a joke. If you read it, especially the
> "quotes" by people on the guestbook page it's obviously all made up. I knew
> it was fake for sure when I read the part about the super glue. The guys
> sense of humor can certianly be called into question, but all you cat lovers
> can rest assured that this is just a joke and that no cats were harmed in
> the making of the site. That was obvious from the pictures. It might have
> been more believeable if the guy had done some photoshop work to make it
> look like they were actually shaped differently or something.
>
> This is pure speculation on my part, but the author may have been trying to
> make a point, rather than just a bad joke. A "point out absurdity by being
> absurd" kind of thing. We geneticly modify plants and animals already, and
> it's getting to the point where people can decide the personality of their
> children, color of hair, etc. with the DNA modification work they're doing.
> If people have no problem with that, why not decide you want your pet to be
> shaped differently than the way God made it?
>
> But then again, the guy may just have a twisted sense of humor. Who knows.
> One thing's for sure: there's no lack of strange things to be found on the
> web!

Hi,

Me thinks the author has read some H.G . Wells. Specifically (I may
remember the original title wrong) "The First Men In The Moon". Mildly
paraphrasing what we humans do to ourselves and our fellow species perhaps.
Am I the only one who finds the page amusing? I've ordered two black &
white moulded in "antagonistic animal shapes".

Lotta & Smirre
(Smirre is a normally shaped black & white cat)


> > I hope this site is a hoax: www.bonsaikitten.com



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Lotta wrote:
> Me thinks the author has read some H.G . Wells. Specifically (I may
> remember the original title wrong) "The First Men In The Moon". Mildly
> paraphrasing what we humans do to ourselves and our fellow species
perhaps.
> Am I the only one who finds the page amusing? I've ordered two black &
> white moulded in "antagonistic animal shapes".

Either that one or "The Island of Dr. Morrue". And no, you're not the only
one. Some of the stuff on there was rather amusing.

Emmett

Hi Lotta,

> Am I the only one who finds the page amusing?

Actually I found it funny also ...

Favorite guest book quote:

From: Puss <puss@...> Date:
Tue, 19 Dec 2000
Extremely funny!! I did the same thing to my
cat except I used a full size house! What a dummy I was!
 
Dear Puss,
Surely you jest, where could you possibly
have obtained such a large kitten? Thank you for your letter
anyway.

Hi Lotta:

You are not alone. I though it funny at first visit, although I
can see how it might offend serious cat lovers as ethnic
humor offends members ethnic communities.

The site is another demonstration of how difficult it is to
bring off humor and irony in print. It's why we use emoticons
and <g> to convey connotation when we write email. If the
content were spoken, instead of written, facial expressions
and vocal inflections would tell us when the speaker is
making a "funny."

Humor in print comes through immediately only when it is
written by a recognized comic. When we pick up a volume
by James Thurber, we expect to snort and guffaw. And we
never expect Dave Barry to be serious.

Humor also is personal. My joke may not tickle your funny
no matter how hard I try. I know Marco has a good sense of
humor, but I can appreciate how a kitty in a jar upset him.

Paul K.

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Alle 10.01 Tuesday 06/02/2001 -0600, ceh ha mandato a Marco questo messaggio:

>Either that one or "The Island of Dr. Morrue".

It was "Dr. Moreau". Nice story!
Free online at
http://www139.pair.com/read/H_G_Herbert_George_Wells/The_Island_of_Doctor_Moreau\
/index.html

The problem is there is always somebody curious to practice what he find on
the Net: some months ago 2 boys were killed, here in Italy, trying to make
explosives. Good candidates for Darwin Award...

Bye!

Marco Bernardini

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Alle 09.12 Tuesday 06/02/2001 -0800, Paul King ha mandato a Marco questo
messaggio:


>Humor also is personal. My joke may not tickle your funny
>no matter how hard I try. I know Marco has a good sense of
>humor, but I can appreciate how a kitty in a jar upset him.

Hi Paul!

Usually my jokes has the same bad taste (often worst) of that site, but I
tell them just to people I know can appreciate them, not on 8 PM TV news...

Is not funny when you tell a joke to people who can't appreciate it!

Bye!

Marco Bernardini

Sorry, I don't know how else to test this.  My ISP tells me I am getting all
messages and I can see from the eGroups (oops yahoo) that I have not received
some of them that were sent on Sun, Mon and Tues, although I have received some
of them that were sent on these days.

Their mail server went down late Fri and they tell me there were over 400,000
emails that they are still trying to get distributed.  And, that they are
distributing them based on email size.  Anything over 1KB may still not be
distributed since they are doing this by email size.  Something seems
inaccurate in their response and I just wanted to see how long this one will
take to show up.

Unfortunately there are reasons I need to stay with these people ......

Aaaarrrgh!  If anyone does read this despite the "please ignore" warning and
you have any suggestions where I can learn more about mail server problems  I
would appreciate *any* suggestions.

Nancy

Hi Nancy,

>Sorry, I don't know how else to test this.  My ISP tells me I am getting all
>messages and I can see from the eGroups (oops yahoo) that I have not received
>some of them that were sent on Sun, Mon and Tues, although I have received some
>of them that were sent on these days.

It is probably due to the change and a bug set in.  I'll see if I can release
the posts if they are waiting for my approval and I did not get notified.

Happy Topics,
Jody

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