Ray,
 
If you are willing to spend some money, you might look at an older
version of InfoSelect. The current version is expensive, but the older versions
will do a lot of what you want and don't cost too much.  You can see the
prices for older versions here:
 
http://www.miclog.com/ordering/old_products.shtml
 
Another place to look is at Jot Plus Notes from King Stairs Software. I don't
have URL but a search will find it. It is like InfoSelect but not quite as good.
It is less expensive, too.
 
Bruce Meyers

--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Ray Shapp <ras45@...> wrote:

From: Ray Shapp <ras45@...>
Subject: Re: [NTO] Need Efficient File Catalog
To: ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 1:07 AM

Hi Lotta,

Thanks for the reply.

<<What abut this?
http://arachnoid.com/dbedit/
>>

dbEdit looks promising. It's definitely fast. I'm not using Vista, so
that's
not an issue (yet). Directory print from Karen's Power tools or the DIR
command in DOS will get all 8,000 entries (records) into dbEdit. I'm still
looking to see how to preserve hierarchy. Maybe append file names to the fully
qualified folder and sub-folder names. That will create some very long lines
for each record. To search on several terms, it is necessary to conduct
separate searches, and combine the results. The other problem is the ease with
which dbEdit will permanently modify the contents of the DB I'm working on.

Until I firmly ingrain the habit of saving, I am sure I will destroy the bulk
of my DB just by doing a sort or a search.

dbEdit is worth having as a quick substitute for Excel when all that's
needed
is a reordering or deletion or addition of columns in tabular data.

I'm still looking for a catalog that can handle hierarchical data in a
graphical tree-like form as Windows Explorer does.

Ray Shapp



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links








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Sheri wrote:
>If you want to try doing it with a collapsible outline, try Ecco. Its
>been free for many years. You used to be able to download the app from
>the NetManage FTP. But NetManage was bought by Micro Focus and the FTP
>server doesn't seem to be working any more.

I was able to download it with a FTP program. Clicking the link at
their site doesn't work for me either. No idea why that is.
http://supportweb.netmanage.com/ts_viewnow/downloads/patchesUnsupported/ecco.asp

ftp.netmanage.com
navigate to
support/pub/utilities/EC401/Ecco32/Setup32.exe

Thanks! I had forgotten about this program. Do you know what
EccoMagic is? Their site is very confusing. Is it a program that
builds on Ecco? Several programs maybe?
http://eccomagic.com/

Lotta

Hello Hugo,

<<I just downloaded FolderTree, an Excel Add-in>>

Thanks for that. The Add-in processed my astronomy folder in about two
seconds. It took three seconds to create indented spreadsheet of a second
folder containing 4000 sub-folders and files holding 5gigs of data. This is
really slick and will do the job nicely. Many thanks to you and all who
responded.

Ray Shapp

There is a great program called DirPrint which will gather the data in a
text file

http://www.galcott.com/



Or to actually catalog files with all info etc, Where Is It is a FANTASTIC
program, it will even pull DVD and CD info from the internet, I've been a
registered user for Y E A R S ..

http://www.whereisit-soft.com/





And there is also Insight, if you wish to create a collapsible outline like
the outline format in NoteTab... this is a FANTASTIC OTL file application,
but the end result is a *.cat file.. You can use Fine and replace on the
resulting Dir Print text file (if you wanted to run the shareware version)
and then create the Outline in Insight.

www.dataomega.com/insight



That's a few suggestions...



Hope this helps... there's also a freebie cataloger   EZ-Cat  and another
one that I can't think of right now that I use at work because its free but
its not near as awesome as Where is it for cataloging disks, its PRIMO!!



Laurie







From: ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ray Shapp
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:14 PM
To: ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NTO] Need Efficient File Catalog



To All,

I need an efficient file catalog similar to the hierarchical system in
Windows
Explorer. In fact, I am using Explorer in exactly that role now, but I may
be
causing a slowdown in the normal functioning of the Windows file system
because I may be overusing Explorer. Windows remembers the state of up to
about 2000 folders. I have modified the entry in the Registry to allow
remembering the state of 10,000 folders. Windows is remembering the state,
but
I am beginning to see the hourglass symbol when I do normal operations in
Explorer.

I have examined some of the cataloging applications designed for tracking
music or video libraries, but they are much too elaborate and cumbersome for

my needs.

Every day, I get 50 to 100 files related to actual or planned observations
from some of the members of an astronomy club. In most cases, I need only to

record the name of the file, size, type, and date modified. In a small
percentage of cases, I retain the actual contents of the file. File types
can
be TXT, some kind of video or still image, DOC, PDF, or rarely XLS.

Most files come into a temporary folder in my mail client. Then I save the
attachment(s) into the appropriate sub-folder(s) within Windows Explorer,
and
create a sub-folder with the same name as the file. I usually then delete
the
contents of the file leaving only the file name, type ("File Folder"), size
(empty in most cases), and date modified. In 1 or 2 percent of cases, I
retain
the original contents of the file. For example, I have about 8500 folders
created from file names, and I have only 10 megabytes of contents in those
folders. About 98 percent of folders are empty.

The members who send these files use a standard file-naming convention that
dictates where these files get stored in the hierarchy. I use the built-in
searching and sorting functions of Windows Explorer to check for duplicate
observations and to append an accession number when multiple observations
come
in for a single object.

Simply stated, I need the hierarchical structure of Windows Explorer in an
application that doesn't use the Windows File Allocation Table. If the
Outline
structure in NoteTab had say 8 or 10 levels of sub-outlines, it would be a
good tool for this job.

I am asking for suggested utilities here rather than in the Clip Programming

group because I'm guessing that a fast, slim, efficient application like
this
already exists.

Thanks for the help.

Ray Shapp
WinXP Pro SP3
NoteTab Pro v5.7b





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com, loro <loro-spam01-@...> wrote:
>
> Sheri wrote:
> >If you want to try doing it with a collapsible outline, try Ecco. Its
> >been free for many years. You used to be able to download the app from
> >the NetManage FTP. But NetManage was bought by Micro Focus and the FTP
> >server doesn't seem to be working any more.
>
> I was able to download it with a FTP program. Clicking the link at
> their site doesn't work for me either. No idea why that is.
>
http://supportweb.netmanage.com/ts_viewnow/downloads/patchesUnsupported/ecco.asp
>
> ftp.netmanage.com
> navigate to
> support/pub/utilities/EC401/Ecco32/Setup32.exe
>
> Thanks! I had forgotten about this program. Do you know what
> EccoMagic is? Their site is very confusing. Is it a program that
> builds on Ecco? Several programs maybe?
> http://eccomagic.com/
>
> Lotta
>

Not familiar with those, thanks for pointing them out. I haven't kept
up these new developements. Seems there's also another Ecco Yahoo
group now at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro (which I
didn't know about either.

FWIW, I've managed to keep tons of info in Ecco and convert data in
and out of it forever without any add-ins.

Regards,
Sheri

Sheri (silvermoonwoman@...) wrote (in part)  (on 2008-10-23 at
18:04):
>  > Thanks! I had forgotten about this program. Do you know what
>  > EccoMagic is? Their site is very confusing. Is it a program that
>  > builds on Ecco? Several programs maybe?
>  > http://eccomagic.com/
>  >
>  > Lotta
>  >
>
>  Not familiar with those, thanks for pointing them out. I haven't kept
>  up these new developements. Seems there's also another Ecco Yahoo
>  group now at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro (which I
>  didn't know about either.
>
>  FWIW, I've managed to keep tons of info in Ecco and convert data in
>  and out of it forever without any add-ins.

The new group features an enhancement to Ecco called eccoext
(EccoExtension) that add some nice functionality to the Ecco -
scriptable LUA, regular expressions, powerful filters, fix for Y2K bug.
see here: http://eccoextdoc.wikispaces.com/

EccoMagic is a set of enhancement programs that can be run with Ecco and
also a discussion forum associated with the ecco_pro yahoo group. see
here: http://www.eccomagic.com/forum/YaBB.pl

If interested in Ecco also worth checking out SQLNotes (recently renamed
to InfoQube)
start here: www.*sqlnotes*.net/ *
*Its in free beta right now but definitely usable in its current state.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Not related to Notetab at all. Just think it's fun - and interesting.

<http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/monkey/reading_test.jpg>

Lotta

Get any strange responses from the list? :D

I showed this to some friends a while back and 100% of them could
read it, several who spoke English as a second language. I think that
statistic is skewed.

Julie

At 10/27/2008 08:20 PM, loro wrote:
>Not related to Notetab at all. Just think it's fun - and interesting.
>
><http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/monkey/reading_test.jpg>
>
>Lotta
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

LOL. Lotta this is fantastic. I can read this better than normal writing
LOL. hehehehhee


Thanks for sharing J



Laurie



From: ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of loro
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:21 PM
To: ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NTO] [FUN] Can you read this?



Not related to Notetab at all. Just think it's fun - and interesting.

<http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/monkey/reading_test.jpg>

Lotta



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Julie wrote:
>I showed this to some friends a while back and 100% of them could
>read it, several who spoke English as a second language. I think that
>statistic is skewed.

Yeah, I can read it too. Except I get stuck on one word. Maybe you
guys can help me. What's my mind supposed to be, "sgtrane"?

Lotta

LOL... strange... but I think that's moi!

Julie

At 10/27/2008 08:58 PM, loro wrote:
>Julie wrote:
> >I showed this to some friends a while back and 100% of them could
> >read it, several who spoke English as a second language. I think that
> >statistic is skewed.
>
>Yeah, I can read it too. Except I get stuck on one word. Maybe you
>guys can help me. What's my mind supposed to be, "sgtrane"?
>
>Lotta

Julie wrote:
>>What's my mind supposed to be, "sgtrane"?
>LOL... strange... but I think that's moi!

Oh! Thanks.  I actually still don't "see" it. Probably an ESL thing. :-P

Lotta

Not so off-topic.  Several years ago a NoteTabber (forget who) gave me this
scramble clip:

H="Scramble Multi"
;_ Modified-Updated~Created_20060107
;_ hrs ø hsavage·pobox·com_11:09:29p
^!ClearVariables
; -place cursor in line where scrambling to start
^!Select LINE
^!Select 0
^!Set %rowCol%=^$GetRow$:^$GetCol$
^!Set %letters%=[a-zA-Z’]
^!Set %letters4%=^%letters%^%letters%^%letters%^%letters%
^!SetScreenUpdate 0
;
:LOOP
^!Find "^%letters4%+" RS
^!IfError END_LOOP
;
:BASEDUP
^!Set %baseDup%=^$GetSelection$
^!Set %baseWord%=^$GetSelection$
^!Set %baseLen%=^$StrSize(^%baseWord%)$
; checks for 4 character words and handles accordingly.
^!If ^%baseLen% = 4 NEXT ELSE SCRAMBLE
^!If ^$StrCopy("^%baseWord%";2;1)$ <> ^$StrCopy("^%baseWord%";3;1)$ SCRAMBLE
;
:REWORD
; if scrambling is passed sets newWord = baseWord
^!Set %newWord%=^%baseWord%
^!Goto PASS
;
:SCRAMBLE
^!Set %firstChar%=^$StrIndex(^%baseWord%;1)$
^!Set %lastChar%=^$StrIndex(^%baseWord%;^%baseLen%)$
^!Set %newLen%=^$Calc(^%baseLen%-2)$
^!Set %baseWord%=^$StrCopy(^%baseWord%;2;^%newLen%)$
^!Set %randSort%=^%empty%
;
:BUILD_LOOP
^!if ^%baseWord%=^%empty% END_BUILD_LOOP
^!Set %randSort%=^%randSort%< ^$StrRandom(9;01)$>^$StrIndex(^%baseWord%;1)$^%nl%
^!Set %baseWord%=^$StrCopy(^%baseWord%;2;100)$
^!Goto BUILD_LOOP
;
:END_BUILD_LOOP
^!Set %sortedBlock%=^$StrSort(^%randSort%;0;1;0)$
^!Set %randWord%=^$StrStripHTML(^%sortedBlock%;0)$
^!Set %newWord%=^%firstChar%^$StrReplace("
";^%empty%;^%randWord%;1;0)$^%lastChar%
;
; if newWord = baseWord, jumps
^!IfSame "^%newWord%" "^%baseDup%" BASEDUP
;
:PASS
^%newWord%
^!Jump SELECT_END
^!Goto LOOP
;
:END_LOOP
^!SetScreenUpdate 1
^!SetCursor ^%rowCol%




--- On Mon, 10/27/08, loro <loro-spam01-@...> wrote:

> From: loro <loro-spam01-@...>
> Subject: [NTO] [FUN] Can you read this?
> To: ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 7:20 PM
> Not related to Notetab at all. Just think it's fun - and
> interesting.
>
> <http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/monkey/reading_test.jpg>
>
> Lotta
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

loro wrote:
> Not related to Notetab at all. Just think it's fun - and interesting.
> <http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/monkey/reading_test.jpg>

Thanks Lotta. I had only seen that in German until now. Nice to know I
can do it nearly as easily in English as in my mother tongue.

Axel

--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@...> wrote:

> I had only seen that in German until now.

Hi Axel,

Could you point me in the direction of a German version.

Danke !

fw

loro wrote:
>
>
> Not related to Notetab at all. Just think it's fun - and interesting.
>
> <http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/monkey/reading_test.jpg
> <http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/monkey/reading_test.jpg>>
>
> Lotta


Nice one, Lotta.
I wonder what would happen if you first told people that this was the
English as it was spoken in, say, the time of King Alfred. :-)

That *does* look very weird too ...

Cheers, Gerard


--
Gerard (E.G.P.) Huijing
2312 ZD Leiden
Netherlands
inboxgen@...

Gerard Huijing wrote:
>I wonder what would happen if you first told people that this was the
>English as it was spoken in, say, the time of King Alfred. :-)

That reminds me of something strange that happened to both me and a
friend of mine. Here in Sweden foreign movies normally get subtitles,
the exception being films for young children that are dubbed for
obvious reasons.

My friend and I both liked Michael Ende's "Die Unendliche
Geschichte", a fantasy novel of sorts. When the American screen
adaption The Neverending Story, came, we went to see it.

So there we were, two adults and 200 kids. The movie began and we
couldn't hear a word they were saying, sounded like a drunken
murmur.  Realized there were no subtitles either. Both the sound and
the subs were botched up and we really wanted to enjoy the movie -
outrageous! After 10 minutes or se we started to get upset. The kids
seemed to enjoy it anyway, but we didn't. We were about to hunt a
responsible person down and demand things would be fixed when it
dawned on us. Yeah, you guessed it. The movie was dubbed to Swedish
and we didn't hear a words they were saying because we expected them
to talk English. Oops!

Still don't think it's a children's book. Grmpff.
Lotta

loro wrote:
>
>
> Gerard Huijing wrote:
>  >I wonder what would happen if you first told people that this was the
>  >English as it was spoken in, say, the time of King Alfred. :-)
>
> That reminds me of something strange that happened to both me and a
> friend of mine. Here in Sweden foreign movies normally get subtitles,
> the exception being films for young children that are dubbed for
> obvious reasons.
>
> My friend and I both liked Michael Ende's "Die Unendliche
> Geschichte", a fantasy novel of sorts. When the American screen
> adaption The Neverending Story, came, we went to see it.
>
> So there we were, two adults and 200 kids. The movie began and we
> couldn't hear a word they were saying, sounded like a drunken
> murmur. Realized there were no subtitles either. Both the sound and
> the subs were botched up and we really wanted to enjoy the movie -
> outrageous! After 10 minutes or se we started to get upset. The kids
> seemed to enjoy it anyway, but we didn't. We were about to hunt a
> responsible person down and demand things would be fixed when it
> dawned on us. Yeah, you guessed it. The movie was dubbed to Swedish
> and we didn't hear a words they were saying because we expected them
> to talk English. Oops!
>
> Still don't think it's a children's book. Grmpff.
> Lotta

I can sympathize. I once stood beside a young woman at a party, who
speaks completely fluent Dutch without any foreign accent whatsoever (I
think she was raised in Holland but I do not know if she was born
there), and she was having a conversation with some older people. It
sounded so weird that I thought she was was paralytically drunk, until I
realized that she was speaking Armenian to her parents!

But to return to the spelling stuff. I found it very strange to read
that the Cambridge study revealed that no less than 55% did *not*
understand it.
I myself spotted what was wrong without detecting and describing the
algorithm, so to speak.
I bet others (programmers? mathematicians?) work exactly the other way
round.
How on earth does this all work in the brain?
I bet my boots Wittgenstein has something about that, somewhere.

Cheers,
Gerard

--
Gerard (E.G.P.) Huijing
2312 ZD Leiden
Netherlands
inboxgen@...

loro wrote:
> and we didn't hear a words they were saying because we expected them
> to talk English.

That's one I know well, You have no clue while your mind tries to parse
the wrong language. I once heard physics lectures by a Chinese professor
with, for one reason or another, a Dutch accent. Whenever a word eluded
him he seamlessly switched from German with a Dutch accent into English
with a Dutch accent. It was absolutely perfect English and quite easy to
understand, but until I caught on it was pure gobbledegook to me.
Happened every time and hardly got better during the semester.

Axel

CC'd this also to ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com (ntb-offtopic yahoogroups
list) Please, if anyone reply to this post, verify that your reply only goes
to ntb-offtopic and *not* to here/clips.

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Robin & Blaine <lighthouse101@...>wrote:

[ Linux curious . . . ]

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ntb-linux/

Notetab runs in wine on Linux

I run Slackware 12.1 (but, though Slack *is* popular amongst a certain
crowd, this distro is not everyone's choice of distro). The appeal: huge
community support; simple and easy; many programmers contributions as
sizeable portion of said community; lends itself well to customization; I
have *full* control (over the what where how of what's on my sys [apps,
etc.] and how it's configured).

con: simple and easy [roll up your sleeves, edit some config files manually
with an editor] and ditto with customization and ditto with my *full*
control.  (sometimes [though likely niot often, if at all] the auto-config
thingy in other distro not always does perfect -- but it does do it their
way.

I have Win 2K SP4 runs in the Qemu virtual machine on top of Slackware
(Slack is the host, Win 2K is the guest OS -- Notetab works superbly in said
Win 2K (Win 2K is Win 2K whether it is on real hardware or on virtualized
[software container that emulates/fakes] hardware.

I've recently now an Intel dual core with Slack 12.1 on it -- next is to try
Win XP in some of the virtual that target this CPU such as Xen, KVM kernel
virtual machine -- oop, perhaps I already goofed as maybe the [for dual core
Intel optimization] virtual layer goes onto the HD first and then/next on
with the operating systems.

It's so much fun to run two operating systems simultaneously on one hardware
box . . .
--
Alan.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I used SuSE happily for many years, but I switched over to
Ubuntu about two years ago and have been very impressed with
it. I too have had good results running Notetab Pro in Wine.

I second the suggestion of taking a peek at distrowatch.com,
although to be honest, there are so many Linux distributions
out there that you might find it a bit overwhelming.

FWIW, I would just go ahead and get Ubuntu or openSuSE and be
done with it. Both work really well and are easy to install.
Linux has come a long way over the years in terms of ease of
use and hardware detection and support. I give Ubuntu the
edge because I like the package management tools better, and
because SuSE puts some stuff in nonstandard places, which can
be a bit of a bother in some cases. That said, I can't speak
for openSuSE 11.0, which might be different than 10.2 in
these regards. Also note that you want openSuSE now, which is
free, rather than Enterprise SuSE from Novell, which costs.

     - http://www.ubuntu.com/
     - http://www.opensuse.org/en/

Hope this helps,

Scott

Alan C wrote:
>
>
> CC'd this also to ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:ntb-OffTopic%40yahoogroups.com> (ntb-offtopic yahoogroups
> list) Please, if anyone reply to this post, verify that your reply only goes
> to ntb-offtopic and *not* to here/clips.
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Robin & Blaine
> <lighthouse101@... <mailto:lighthouse101%40verizon.net>>wrote:
>
> [ Linux curious . . . ]
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ntb-linux/
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ntb-linux/>
>
> Notetab runs in wine on Linux
>
> I run Slackware 12.1 (but, though Slack *is* popular amongst a certain
> crowd, this distro is not everyone's choice of distro). The appeal: huge
> community support; simple and easy; many programmers contributions as
> sizeable portion of said community; lends itself well to customization; I
> have *full* control (over the what where how of what's on my sys [apps,
> etc.] and how it's configured).
>
> con: simple and easy [roll up your sleeves, edit some config files manually
> with an editor] and ditto with customization and ditto with my *full*
> control. (sometimes [though likely niot often, if at all] the auto-config
> thingy in other distro not always does perfect -- but it does do it their
> way.
>
> I have Win 2K SP4 runs in the Qemu virtual machine on top of Slackware
> (Slack is the host, Win 2K is the guest OS -- Notetab works superbly in said
> Win 2K (Win 2K is Win 2K whether it is on real hardware or on virtualized
> [software container that emulates/fakes] hardware.
>
> I've recently now an Intel dual core with Slack 12.1 on it -- next is to try
> Win XP in some of the virtual that target this CPU such as Xen, KVM kernel
> virtual machine -- oop, perhaps I already goofed as maybe the [for dual core
> Intel optimization] virtual layer goes onto the HD first and then/next on
> with the operating systems.
>
> It's so much fun to run two operating systems simultaneously on one hardware
> box . . .
> --
> Alan.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Do you need a texteditor? :-)
http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EditorIndex
--
adrien

--- In ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com, Adrien Verlee <adrien.verlee@...>
wrote:
>
> Do you need a texteditor? :-)
> http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EditorIndex
> --
> adrien
>

His assessment of NoteTab is ridiculous, says:

"* Weird clipbook/library features which I always disable after
installing."

LOL

Adrien Verlee wrote:
> Do you need a texteditor? :-)

NoteTab
  Author:   Fookes Software
Features:
      Some simple but handy file/selection manipulations:
Negatives
      Weird clipbook/library features which I always disable after
installing.

Hmm, interesting. Worth a look perhaps?

Axel

Axel Berger wrote:
>Adrien Verlee wrote:
> > Do you need a texteditor? :-)
>
>
>Negatives
>      Weird clipbook/library features which I always disable after
>installing.
>
>Hmm, interesting. Worth a look perhaps?

Nah. I wouldn't bother. ;-)

Great list though! Thanks for that, Adrien.

Lotta

Axel Berger wrote:
> Adrien Verlee wrote:
>
>> Do you need a texteditor? :-)
>>
>
> NoteTab
>  Author:   Fookes Software
> Features:
>      Some simple but handy file/selection manipulations:
> Negatives
>      Weird clipbook/library features which I always disable after
> installing.
>
> Hmm, interesting. Worth a look perhaps?
>
> Axel
Hmm. Just like buying a 4WD and throwing away the Tranny.

Jeff

Jeff Scism wrote:
> Hmm. Just like buying a 4WD and throwing away the Tranny.

Aren't quite a few current SUFFs (Suff, German, propensity for drinking
in excess, a fitting name for that kind of vehicle) made and sold
without 4WD?

Looks are everything, aren't they, so who cares about function?

Axel

Hi,

----- on 06.11.2008 16:33 loro wrote:
> Great list though! Thanks for that, Adrien.

This reminds me to recommend 'wikidPad' to all interested in outliners.
(no, I'm not affiliated..)

It's not exactly an outliner but can be used as such.

Unicode, HTML-export, regexp-search and mor smart features...

http://wikidpad.sourceforge.net/
http://wikidpad.sourceforge.net/screens/screen1.gif
http://wikidpad.sourceforge.net/help/


Regards,
Melchior
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weighing what to do with a new site ...

I have always used wordpress, but I have the following choices easily
available:
Blogs
b2evolution
Nucleus
WordPress

Content Management
Drupal
Geeklog
Joomla
Mambo
PHP-Nuke
phpWCMS
phpWebSite
Post-Nuke
Siteframe
TYPO3
Xoops

Any input appreciated.  I want to basically run a small corporate site
that would have the ability to have a brochure and some detailed pages
about the company's abilities.  Later I may want to run a few smaller
parts of the site that are available only to a particular client so that
the client can review documents or lists that are particular to them
after they are logged in.

Thanks,

Don

FWIW, I've grown fond of Drupal, after banging around a
bit with Joomla, Mambo, phpWebSite, and Post-Nuke. That
said, I can't claim to be an expert at any of these, but
after looking at those others, I've chosen to immerse
myself in Drupal. I have three Drupal-based sites under
development right now, and in all, Drupal is pretty easy
to use. If you go the Drupal route, you'll find a number
of plug-in modules for blogging. Keep in mind that you'll
need MySQL on your hosting site. I believe there are ways
to use Drupal with other databases, but I'm not sure.
MySQL is the default, and it works very well.

Here's some good press about Drupal:

     http://www.packtpub.com/award

YMMV. Hope this helps,

Scott

Don - HtmlFixIt.com wrote:
>
>
> weighing what to do with a new site ...
>
> I have always used wordpress, but I have the following choices easily
> available:
> Blogs
> b2evolution
> Nucleus
> WordPress
>
> Content Management
> Drupal
> Geeklog
> Joomla
> Mambo
> PHP-Nuke
> phpWCMS
> phpWebSite
> Post-Nuke
> Siteframe
> TYPO3
> Xoops
>
> Any input appreciated. I want to basically run a small corporate site
> that would have the ability to have a brochure and some detailed pages
> about the company's abilities. Later I may want to run a few smaller
> parts of the site that are available only to a particular client so that
> the client can review documents or lists that are particular to them
> after they are logged in.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Don
>
>