Hello,
If an emailaddress is in a spam list; it may be that the mail does
not come back?
Are there such (bad) systems?
--
Adrien

Hi
not sure what you mean ,but usually you have good list that your program
knows and also a bad list that it deletes without question, sometimes you
also point the emails not sure of to a another folder that can be checked
later. Spam does not usually come back because it comes from multiple
unknown servers ??
     THANKYOU DAVE M

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrien Verlee" <adrien.verlee@...>
To: <ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:42 AM
Subject: [NTO] The blessings of spam


> Hello,
> If an emailaddress is in a spam list; it may be that the mail does
> not come back?
> Are there such (bad) systems?
> --
> Adrien
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

To All,

I started this thread back in July of 2008. Axel tried to help me, but I never
did resolve the issue. (I only partially understood his advice.)

Restating the problem:

When I double click a multi-media file such as AVI, WMV, MP4 etc, or when I
right click on such a file and then click OPEN, Zoom Player launches but the
audio or video file does not play. If I click the PLAY icon in Zoom Player, I
get the "No media loaded" message. If I drag the AV file onto the Zoom Player
application window, the music or video plays normally. IOW, no further action
is required after dropping the file onto the Zoom Player application window.

I only recently discovered another symptom that might give you a clue as to
how to fix my problem. If I right-click the AV file then select SEND TO... and
click Zoom Player, the application launches and the file plays normally.

I doubt the problem is with missing or corrupt codecs, and file associations
point all AV file types to Zoom Player. I have the same version of Zoom Player
and the same codecs installed on two different PCs. The older PC (Dell 4550)
launches and plays all media files normally. The newer PC (home brew) has the
problem as described above.

Both PCs run WinXP Pro SP3.

Any advice or trouble-shooting ideas?

Thank you.

Ray Shapp

To All,

I just noticed that in Zoom Player Options > File Associations, the "Play"
checkbox was unmarked. After I inserted a checkmark, media files now play
immediately when Zoom Player launches.

Problem solved!

Ray Shapp

Hi
to behave the way you want it has to be set as the default player for  that
media ,it sounds as though the is another media player set as default, have
you installed another media player at all ??
     THANKYOU DAVE M

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Shapp" <ras45@...>
To: <ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NTO] Double-Click Opens But Doesn't Play File


> To All,
>
> I started this thread back in July of 2008. Axel tried to help me, but I
> never
> did resolve the issue. (I only partially understood his advice.)
>
> Restating the problem:
>
> When I double click a multi-media file such as AVI, WMV, MP4 etc, or when
> I
> right click on such a file and then click OPEN, Zoom Player launches but
> the
> audio or video file does not play. If I click the PLAY icon in Zoom
> Player, I
> get the "No media loaded" message. If I drag the AV file onto the Zoom
> Player
> application window, the music or video plays normally. IOW, no further
> action
> is required after dropping the file onto the Zoom Player application
> window.
>
> I only recently discovered another symptom that might give you a clue as
> to
> how to fix my problem. If I right-click the AV file then select SEND TO...
> and
> click Zoom Player, the application launches and the file plays normally.
>
> I doubt the problem is with missing or corrupt codecs, and file
> associations
> point all AV file types to Zoom Player. I have the same version of Zoom
> Player
> and the same codecs installed on two different PCs. The older PC (Dell
> 4550)
> launches and plays all media files normally. The newer PC (home brew) has
> the
> problem as described above.
>
> Both PCs run WinXP Pro SP3.
>
> Any advice or trouble-shooting ideas?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ray Shapp
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Greetings,
I am OCRing some material which needs the formatting preserved.
If I save it to a .doc file the formatting is preserved, in a .txt some
is saved, but not blank lines used as separators.

When I copy and paste from the .doc to  NoteTab, the blank lines and
other preserved formatting is stripped out.

Is there anyway to have NT preserve formatting?

Example:
This:

where
eyes of moss look up to
stars that don't exist
i watch


the light years burn up
the crumpled pages
tossed


Becomes this:
where
eyes of moss look up to
stars that don't exist
i watch
the light years burn up
the crumpled pages
tossed

Op 11-mrt-10, om 15:38 heeft Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV het
volgende geschreven:

> Is there anyway to have NT preserve formatting?


Try to create a macro in Word for each paragraph to add <p> and </p>.
--
Adrien

Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV wrote:
> When I copy and paste from the .doc to  NoteTab, the blank lines and
> other preserved formatting is stripped out.

Why do you do that? I presume you're using Microsoft Word, why not save
as text? With copying and pasting MS-Word does funny things, trying to
know better what it is you want, than you do yourself.

Or look for an option in your OCR software that saves all line ends when
saving as text and does not try to make paragraphs.

Axel

Adrien Verlee wrote:
>
>
> Op 11-mrt-10, om 15:38 heeft Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV het
> volgende geschreven:
>
>  > Is there anyway to have NT preserve formatting?
>
> Try to create a macro in Word for each paragraph to add <p> and </p>.

Hi Adrien,
I see acouple of problems with that.
First, I am using the <pre> tag to save formatting. No <p> tags.
see: http://gsuttonbreiding.net/2010/

Also, when reveal codes is turned on in Word there are not multiple
paragraph codes as you would expect.
Where there is white space between paragraphs there are no codes.

Thanks,
-Mike


> --
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>
>
>
>
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>
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Axel Berger wrote:
>
>
> Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV wrote:
>  > When I copy and paste from the .doc to NoteTab, the blank lines and
>  > other preserved formatting is stripped out.
>
> Why do you do that? I presume you're using Microsoft Word, why not save
> as text?

Tried that. MS Word strips all the formatting out.

> With copying and pasting MS-Word does funny things, trying to
> know better what it is you want, than you do yourself.
>
> Or look for an option in your OCR software that saves all line ends when
> saving as text and does not try to make paragraphs.

I can see no such option in either OCR I am using.
Thanks,
-Mike

>
> Axel
>
>
>
>
> avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com>: Inbound message clean.
>
> Virus Database (VPS): 100311-0, 03/11/2010
> Tested on: 3/11/2010 10:16:38 AM
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>
>

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>  Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV wrote:
> >  > When I copy and paste from the .doc to NoteTab, the blank lines and
> >  > other preserved formatting is stripped out.
> >
> > Why do you do that? I presume you're using Microsoft Word, why not save
> > as text?
>
>Tried that. MS Word strips all the formatting out.

Have you tried to print to PDF from Word (using one of those drivers
for that purpose) and then copy from the PDF?

Can you have your OCR software output another format than doc to begin with?

Lotta

Op 11-mrt-10, om 15:38 heeft Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV het
volgende geschreven:

> Is there anyway to have NT preserve formatting?


Try to create a macro in Word for each paragraph to add <p> and </p>.
--
Adrien

loro wrote:
>  > Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV wrote:
>  > > > When I copy and paste from the .doc to NoteTab, the blank lines and
>  > > > other preserved formatting is stripped out.
>  > >
>  > > Why do you do that? I presume you're using Microsoft Word, why not save
>  > > as text?
>  >
>  >Tried that. MS Word strips all the formatting out.

> Have you tried to print to PDF from Word (using one of those drivers
> for that purpose) and then copy from the PDF?

I just tried that and it has the same results.


> Can you have your OCR software output another format than doc to begin with?

Yes.
Currently I get the best results with Notepad. It saves the basic
formatting but not the extra lines.

If I output to NoteTab is keeps the line breaks, but that is all.
Thanks,
-Mike

Hi Dave,


Thanks for the reply.


<<to behave the way you want it has to be set as the default player for  that
media>>

Zoom Player is the "default" player in the sense that it is associated with
the file multimedia types such as AVI, MP4. WMV etc. That's why Zoom Player
always launches when I double click one of those types of file. After
launching the application, I was baffled as to why the video or audio clip
would not autostart.

Our emails must have crossed. As I said earlier, the solution was to mark the
"Play" checkbox within Zoom Player.

Regards,

Ray Shapp

Hi
If you are saving as doc would it not be easier to save as html file in word
first then open it in notetab if required .
     THANKYOU DAVE M

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV" <mike@...>
To: "NTB Off-topic" <ntb-OffTopic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:38 AM
Subject: [NTO] preserving white spaces in notetab


>
> Greetings,
> I am OCRing some material which needs the formatting preserved.
> If I save it to a .doc file the formatting is preserved, in a .txt some
> is saved, but not blank lines used as separators.
>
> When I copy and paste from the .doc to  NoteTab, the blank lines and
> other preserved formatting is stripped out.
>
> Is there anyway to have NT preserve formatting?
>
> Example:
> This:
>
> where
> eyes of moss look up to
> stars that don't exist
> i watch
>
>
> the light years burn up
> the crumpled pages
> tossed
>
>
> Becomes this:
> where
> eyes of moss look up to
> stars that don't exist
> i watch
> the light years burn up
> the crumpled pages
> tossed
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

On 12 Mar 10 13:28 "Dave" <dmc43959@...> said:
> If you are saving as doc would it not be easier to save as html file
> in word first then open it in notetab if required .

And then use HTMLTidy to strip out the rubbish that WORD inserts when
saving as HTML.

Greg

Dave wrote:
> Hi
> If you are saving as doc would it not be easier to save as html file in
> word
> first then open it in notetab if required .
> THANKYOU DAVE M

Hi Dave,
This works, but it would take longer to clean up the HTML than to
manually insert the extra lines.

-Mike

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV" <mike@WildWonderfulW V.us
> <mailto:mike%40WildWonderfulWV.us>>
> To: "NTB Off-topic" <ntb-OffTopic@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:ntb-OffTopic%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:38 AM
> Subject: [NTO] preserving white spaces in notetab
>
>  >
>  > Greetings,
>  > I am OCRing some material which needs the formatting preserved.
>  > If I save it to a .doc file the formatting is preserved, in a .txt some
>  > is saved, but not blank lines used as separators.
>  >
>  > When I copy and paste from the .doc to NoteTab, the blank lines and
>  > other preserved formatting is stripped out.
>  >
>  > Is there anyway to have NT preserve formatting?
>  >
>  > Example:
>  > This:
>  >
>  > where
>  > eyes of moss look up to
>  > stars that don't exist
>  > i watch
>  >
>  >
>  > the light years burn up
>  > the crumpled pages
>  > tossed
>  >
>  >
>  > Becomes this:
>  > where
>  > eyes of moss look up to
>  > stars that don't exist
>  > i watch
>  > the light years burn up
>  > the crumpled pages
>  > tossed

Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV wrote:
> This works, but it would take longer to clean up the HTML than to
> manually insert the extra lines.

I doubt that. After some fiddling and optimizing a clip can do the
cleaning all on its own. Finding the places where lines are to be
inserted has to be done manually every time.

As my late dad used to say:
"Progress is the work of lazy people. Every time something needs to be
done, the industrious people just go and do it. Lazy people sit down and
try to think of a way to avoid all that work."

Axel

Axel Berger wrote:
>
>
> Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV wrote:
>  > This works, but it would take longer to clean up the HTML than to
>  > manually insert the extra lines.
>
> I doubt that. After some fiddling and optimizing a clip can do the
> cleaning all on its own. Finding the places where lines are to be
> inserted has to be done manually every time.
>
> As my late dad used to say:
> "Progress is the work of lazy people. Every time something needs to be
> done, the industrious people just go and do it. Lazy people sit down and
> try to think of a way to avoid all that work."

Certainly applies here! ;)
-Mike

Anyone know of a discussion group for Google?
I have googled this, but can't find one.

I have some questions about spidering and URL submission.

-mb

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Mike Breiding wrote:

>Anyone know of a discussion group for Google?
>I have googled this, but can't find one.
>
>I have some questions about spidering and URL submission.

Google's own forums? You can forget about submitting your site. I
think the button is there for therapeutic reasons.

<http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters?hl=en>

Lotta

loro wrote:
> Mike Breiding wrote:
>
>  >Anyone know of a discussion group for Google?
>  >I have googled this, but can't find one.
>  >
>  >I have some questions about spidering and URL submission.
>
> Google's own forums? You can forget about submitting your site.I
> think the button is there for therapeutic reasons.

This button?
http://www.google.com/addurl/
You think it is ineffectual?

>
> <http://www.google. com/support/ forum/p/Webmaste rs?hl=en
> <http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters?hl=en>>

Not sure why I could not get to this link on my own...
Thanks,
-Mike

>
> Lotta
>
>
>
>
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Hi Mike,

On 15 Mar 10 10:44 Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV
<mike@...> said:
> http://www.google.com/addurl/
> You think it is ineffectual?

There's no point in using it if the page is already accessible to
Google. i.e. is linked to an existing page that Google has access to
and is not excluded by a robot file telling Google not to spider it.

In due course Google's spider will return to update its database and
then the page will be added to Google search engine.

The only reason for using that link is if it's a brand new site with
no link to it anywhere on the web that leads to it. In that case, and
that case only, Google needs to be told it's there as it won't find it
by spidering.

Greg

Greg Chapman wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> On 15 Mar 10 10:44 Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV
> <mike@WildWonderfulW V.us <mailto:mike%40WildWonderfulWV.us>> said:
>  > http://www.google. com/addurl/ <http://www.google.com/addurl/>
>  > You think it is ineffectual?
>
> There's no point in using it if the page is already accessible to
> Google. i.e. is linked to an existing page that Google has access to
> and is not excluded by a robot file telling Google not to spider it.
>
> In due course Google's spider will return to update its database and
> then the page will be added to Google search engine.
>
> The only reason for using that link is if it's a brand new site with
> no link to it anywhere on the web that leads to it. In that case, and
> that case only, Google needs to be told it's there as it won't find it
> by spidering.

Thanks , Greg.
It is a new site as you describe above.
When it is as complete as it will be for the immediate future I will
then submit it to Google.
Thanks,
-Mike


>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
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Mike wrote:
>This button?
>http://www.google.com/addurl/
>You think it is ineffectual?

I think it's something from old times that they keep around for
coziness. Surely there will be at least one link to your new page (or site)?

>>  <http://www.google. com/support/ forum/p/Webmaste rs?hl=en >
>> <http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters?hl=en>
>
>Not sure why I could not get to this link on my own...


It used to be easy, just a couple of clicks from the front page. For
a while it was hard to find, I landed on pages where they wanted me
to sign in all the time, so I started to do this.
http://www.google.com/search?q=google+webmasters
The first hit takes you to http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/
and then it IS easy.

But I notice that it's easy again now. Click the "About Google" link
on the front page, then look under "For Site Owners" and click
"Webmaster Central", then "Help Center". Then it's the first link under "

Help resources".

Lotta

Thanks, Lotta!
-Mike
================

loro wrote:
>
>
> Mike wrote:
>  >This button?
>  >http://www.google. com/addurl/ <http://www.google.com/addurl/>
>  >You think it is ineffectual?
>
> I think it's something from old times that they keep around for
> coziness. Surely there will be at least one link to your new page (or site)?
>
>  >> <http://www.google. com/support/ forum/p/Webmaste rs?hl=en >
>  >> <http://www.google. com/support/ forum/p/Webmaste rs?hl=en
> <http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters?hl=en>>
>  >
>  >Not sure why I could not get to this link on my own...
>
> It used to be easy, just a couple of clicks from the front page. For
> a while it was hard to find, I landed on pages where they wanted me
> to sign in all the time, so I started to do this.
> http://www.google. com/search? q=google+ webmasters
> <http://www.google.com/search?q=google+webmasters>
> The first hit takes you to http://www.google. com/support/ webmasters/
> <http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/>
> and then it IS easy.
>
> But I notice that it's easy again now. Click the "About Google" link
> on the front page, then look under "For Site Owners" and click
> "Webmaster Central", then "Help Center". Then it's the first link under "
>
> Help resources".
>
> Lotta

These files are in WP 10
http://epicroadtrips.com/WP/

Can anyone out there convert them to MS Word 2003 or earlier and and
email them to me?
Thanks,

-Mike

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You should get them shortly.

Mick

On 3/20/2010 2:45 PM, Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV wrote:
>
>
>
> These files are in WP 10
> http://epicroadtrips.com/WP/ <http://epicroadtrips.com/WP/>
>
> Can anyone out there convert them to MS Word 2003 or earlier and and
> email them to me?
> Thanks,
>
> -Mike
>
> --
>
> Morgantown WV
>
> www.EpicRoadTrips.us

Can robots.txt be used for multiple functions?

Such this:

Sitemap: http://gsuttonbreiding.net/sitemap.xml
User-Agent: *
Disallow: /dir/

I assume it can, but I could not find any example on the web.

TMike

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Mike wrote:
>Can robots.txt be used for multiple functions?
>
>Such this:
>
>Sitemap: http://gsuttonbreiding.net/sitemap.xml
>User-Agent: *
>Disallow: /dir/

Not sure what you mean with multiple functions. Do you mean lock out
different bots from different directories? Like disallow bot1, bot2
and bot3 from /dir/dir/ but only bot1 from /dir/. No, I don't think so.

Lotta