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#4048 From: "Larry Hamilton" <lmh@...>
Date: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:50 am
Subject: Re: [NH] colored HTML tagsin NoteTab Lite?
lm_hamilton
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Rudolf Horbas wrote:
> Larry Hamilton wrote:
>> NoteTab Pro has HTML syntax highlighting.
>
> Doesn't Lite have highlighting during the 30 day test period?

During the NoteTab Lite Trial period, it acts like Standard.

Of course, the Pro trial has syntax highlighting.

Larry

#4049 From: "Steve Pilgrim" <spilgrim@...>
Date: Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:16 pm
Subject: XML Declarations
spilgrim@...
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Here's a rookie's question:

When I launch a new XHTML web page in NTP, I'm
immediately faced with an ?xml version="...>
declaration at the top of the page.

I'm told the preferred declaration is in a meta tag.

Is there a way to configure NTP so that I don't have
to edit each new page right from the start?

Thanks,

SP


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#4050 From: "Mike Hopkins" <ironmike@...>
Date: Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:49 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] XML Declarations
ironmike52402
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Hello, Steve:

The contents of the (x)HTML header and footer that are placed on new HTML
pages is controlled from the "Internet" tab on the "View >> Options" menu.

On this tab you can type in the desired content of the footer, header, img
and href tags. You can have your basic meta tags, title tags, etc. in the
footer, and the </html> and </body> tags, along with any other standard
information you need in the footer. The img and href tags can also be
customized to include any standard attributes you wish. Way cool!

HTH

Mike Hopkins
ironmike@...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Pilgrim" <spilgrim@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:16 AM
Subject: [NH] XML Declarations


> Here's a rookie's question:
>
> When I launch a new XHTML web page in NTP, I'm
> immediately faced with an ?xml version="...>
> declaration at the top of the page.
>
> I'm told the preferred declaration is in a meta tag.
>
> Is there a way to configure NTP so that I don't have
> to edit each new page right from the start?
>
> Thanks,
>
> SP
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

#4051 From: "Mike Hopkins" <ironmike@...>
Date: Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] XML Declarations
ironmike52402
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Hopkins" <ironmike@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NH] XML Declarations


> Hello, Steve:

...and every body else. The rule is: READ the message before you push the
send button!

>
> The contents of the (x)HTML header and footer that are placed on new HTML
> pages is controlled from the "Internet" tab on the "View >> Options" menu.
>
  On this tab you can type in the desired content of the header, footer, img
and href tags. You can have your basic meta tags, title tags, etc. in the
  footer [ [ [ [ HEADER, darn it...HEADER, ] ] ] ] and the </html> and
</body> tags, along with any other standard information you need, in the
footer. The img and href tags can also be customized to include any standard
attributes you wish. Way cool!

#4052 From: R Shapp <ras45@...>
Date: Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:30 pm
Subject: Add Google Search to Website
rayshapp
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Hi Group,

How does one add a Google search window to one's website?  I don't mean adding
the Google tool bar to any particular browser.  Instead, I'd like to provide a
way for visitors to search one particular website for search terms of the
user's choosing.  A sample of HTML code would be most helpful.

Thank you for your help.

Ray Shapp

#4053 From: loro <loro-spam01-@...>
Date: Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] Add Google Search to Website
yastupidhoo
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R Shapp wrote:
>How does one add a Google search window to one's website?

Like so:
<http://www.google.com/searchcode.html>

Lotta

#4054 From: R Shapp <ras45@...>
Date: Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:00 am
Subject: Re: [NH] Add Google Search to Website
rayshapp
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<<http://www.google.com/searchcode.html>>

Thanks a bunch, Lotta!  That's exactly what I needed.

Ray Shapp

#4055 From: hsavage <hsavage@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] Browsers.dat Settings for Mozilla Family
hrs62930
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Jody wrote:

  > Hi Alec
  >
  >> Jody - is your situation like mine (saved files only work) or like hrs'
  >> (nothing works)?
  >
  > I cannot get saved or unsaved to open.  I finally got rid of it
trying to launch the folder by opening with about:blank though.
  >
  > I can only get Custom Launch to work which means a new window everytime.

Jody, Alec and interested parties,

I've done a bit more testing with Firebird and Browsers.dat.  I've found
a method to View In Browser.

The result won't be like a normal browser window, it is a window without
dropdown menues or other controls, very much like a 'view page source',
but, it is a html window in which to view the file with Firebird.

Mozilla also, will load a file into the same type window when using the
same command line parameter.

This is the Firebird section of my Browsers.dat file.  Remember the view
is a little different but it is html and any page links will work.

[fb]
Command=C:\MozillaFirebird\MozillaFirebird.exe -browser
UseDDE=0
Application=MozillaFirebird
DdeCommand=
DdeExec="%1",,%2,0,,,,
Topic=WWW_OpenURL
Application_New=
DdeExec_New=
Topic_New=

hrs

#4056 From: "j.sb2" <j.sb2@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:07 am
Subject: RE: photo editor
j.sb2@...
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Group,

I use notetab as my web page editor and I have had a continually unsettling
experience with image transfer.

Is there a replacement program for Microsoft Photo Editor?

  I have had several images sent up to the web site and not execute properly
only to find out that those same images cannot be seen in the editor.

  Come to think of it would the editor be corrupted -- Naw!

  Let me know,

  Joe

#4057 From: "Fay" <feigh@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:28 am
Subject: Re: [NH] RE: photo editor
feigh@...
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Start with Irfan View
http://download.com.com/3000-2192-10021962.html
If that's too simple, there are heaps more.
I've listed some on this page
http://fay.iniminimo.com/free_graphics.html
but that's nothing like all that're available.
Fay

#4058 From: loro <loro-spam01-@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:30 am
Subject: Re: [NH] RE: photo editor
yastupidhoo
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.sb2 wrote:
>I use notetab as my web page editor and I have had a continually unsettling
>experience with image transfer.
>
>Is there a replacement program for Microsoft Photo Editor?
>
> I have had several images sent up to the web site and not execute properly
>only to find out that those same images cannot be seen in the editor.

Not sure what Microsoft Photo Editor is. It's probably hiding somewhere on my
HD. How do you transfer the images? FTP? I wonder of you maybe send them in Text
Mode instead of Binary?

Lotta

#4059 From: "Don Passenger" <dpasseng@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] RE: photo editor
dpasseng
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There are many good options.  The program you mention isn't one of them in
my opinion.

Working with images is an art form in its own right.  You first need to make
and prepare your images.  Just using an image as is, generally is less than
ideal.  When working on the web you want your image to be in .gif, .jpg, or
png in most cases.  MicroSoft products often work with .bmp images which
should not be used on the web because they are not universally acceptable to
browsers and the file size is usually large.

Use a program of your choosing and resave your image being sure to put it in
one of the formats I indicate.  Most image programs allow you to compress
your image using one of several methods.  At the same time you should crop
any excess parts etc.

There are some good free programs, but it is worth it in my opinion to also
buy a program.  Good free programs that will help you:

the gimp
http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/
ezthumbnails
http://www.notetab.com
irfanview
http://www.irfanview.com

I would also consider buying Paint Shop Pro (around $100)
http://www.jasc.com/

Once you get your image in final form, then you upload it with ftp software.
Make sure it uploads in binary format to the server.

Last, add an image link to your html.  All image links should have height,
width and alt tags included.

--

Don Passenger

If you need an html fix visit
http://www.htmlfixit.com

html/perl/php/xhtml/javascript presented
in easy tutorials with live help and forums
to fix your problems
----- Original Message -----
From: "j.sb2" <j.sb2@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: [NH] RE: photo editor


> Group,
>
> I use notetab as my web page editor and I have had a continually
unsettling
> experience with image transfer.
>
> Is there a replacement program for Microsoft Photo Editor?

#4060 From: "Brintnell, Jay" <jay.brintnell@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:01 pm
Subject: RE: [NH] RE: photo editor
lljbrintnell
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I agree with Don. I use Abode PhotoShop for all of my high end work, but
it's just that. High end, expensive, and not easy to learn.

I recommend Paint Shop Pro to all of my colleagues and students. There are
times when it even works better than Photoshop.


Jay Brintnell
Business Developer
London Life - Field Technology
(519) 435-4261


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Passenger [mailto:dpasseng@...]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 9:45 AM
To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [NH] RE: photo editor


There are many good options.  The program you mention isn't one of them in
my opinion.

Working with images is an art form in its own right.  You first need to make
and prepare your images.  Just using an image as is, generally is less than
ideal.  When working on the web you want your image to be in .gif, .jpg, or
png in most cases.  MicroSoft products often work with .bmp images which
should not be used on the web because they are not universally acceptable to
browsers and the file size is usually large.

Use a program of your choosing and resave your image being sure to put it in
one of the formats I indicate.  Most image programs allow you to compress
your image using one of several methods.  At the same time you should crop
any excess parts etc.

There are some good free programs, but it is worth it in my opinion to also
buy a program.  Good free programs that will help you:

the gimp
http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/ <http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/>
ezthumbnails
http://www.notetab.com <http://www.notetab.com>
irfanview
http://www.irfanview.com <http://www.irfanview.com>

I would also consider buying Paint Shop Pro (around $100)
http://www.jasc.com/ <http://www.jasc.com/>

Once you get your image in final form, then you upload it with ftp software.
Make sure it uploads in binary format to the server.

Last, add an image link to your html.  All image links should have height,
width and alt tags included.

--

Don Passenger

If you need an html fix visit
http://www.htmlfixit.com <http://www.htmlfixit.com>

html/perl/php/xhtml/javascript presented
in easy tutorials with live help and forums
to fix your problems
----- Original Message -----
From: "j.sb2" <j.sb2@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: [NH] RE: photo editor


> Group,
>
> I use notetab as my web page editor and I have had a continually
unsettling
> experience with image transfer.
>
> Is there a replacement program for Microsoft Photo Editor?



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#4061 From: "Don Passenger" <dpasseng@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] RE: photo editor
dpasseng
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There is a light version of PhotoShop by the way, PhotoShop Elements which
is price point comparible to Paint Shop Pro.  In my opinion, having used
both, I would either get Paint Shop Pro (by the way you can get a steal on
version 7 of that these days and it is very good -- now that they have gone
to version 8) or spring for the big money one ... PhotoShop.

One thing that Photoshop Elements does well is make panarama shots
(combining multiple photos).  For Paint Shop Pro you need another program to
do that.  Each has advantages, so compare.

Also, for what it is worth, Consumer Reports Magazine rated image editors
within the last year, however they seemed to favor ease of use over power.
Still it is helpful info if you want to make a trip to the library.

--

Don Passenger

#4062 From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:19 pm
Subject: RE: [NH] RE: photo editor
gregchapmanuk
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Hi Lotta,

> Not sure what Microsoft Photo Editor is. It's probably hiding
> somewhere on my HD. How do you transfer the images? FTP? I wonder
> of you maybe send them in Text Mode instead of Binary?

It's part of an MS Office installation, which normally resides in the
"Microsoft Office Tools" branch of the Start menu.  It seems to vary with
the version of Office that you have as to whether it installs by default.

Greg

#4063 From: "Christine" <Christine@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:35 pm
Subject: OT: Mail Failures & Woes (x-Post)
CF_Muehling
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Hi all!

I was wondering if anyone kept the digests?

I have had a very weird "bug" happen.  I choose the word "bug" carefully,
since no one, anywhere, has ever heard of this.  Even I would tell you it's
your imagination.  Uninstalling software seems to delete my profile, which
contains Outlook and Outlook Express, mail files, Favorites, Temporary
Internet Files, settings for FTP programs, NT Back-up catalogues, and many
more important items.

So I lost that.  I rebuilt from back-up and was working on my computer
again.  Evidently, since I mapped the drives to the back-ups, the next time
I uninstalled something -- 2 weeks later -- it searched through all my
drives and deleted my back-ups.  My tale of woe.  I find myself strangely
grieving!

My 5 year calendar, contacts, receipts, registrations, invoices, genealogy
contacts, etc., are gone.  Ironically, I have become a back-up fanatic.
I've been backing up daily, refreshing every hour if I'm working.  I just
had to reboot because of stupid satellite issues, and an uninstall deleted
the profile again.  At least I have the last 3 days' work in back-up!  I'm
losing my mind on this one.  But that's another rant.  (Any suggestions or
ideas?)

Anyway, I'm looking for my lists' digests back to August 2 of 2002.  If you
happen to be an anal collector as I am, please email me privately?
Christine@....

I appreciate anyone's time and help.  Thank you in advance!

Christine

#4064 From: "Christine" <Christine@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:24 pm
Subject: OT: Mail Failures & Woes (x-Post)
CF_Muehling
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Hi all!

I was wondering if anyone kept the digests?

I have had a very weird "bug" happen.  I choose the word "bug" carefully,
since no one, anywhere, has ever heard of this.  Even I would tell you it's
your imagination.  Uninstalling software seems to delete my profile, which
contains Outlook and Outlook Express, mail files, Favorites, Temporary
Internet Files, settings for FTP programs, NT Back-up catalogues, and many
more important items.

So I lost that.  I rebuilt from back-up and was working on my computer
again.  Evidently, since I mapped the drives to the back-ups, the next time
I uninstalled something -- 2 weeks later -- it searched through all my
drives and deleted my back-ups.  My tale of woe.  I find myself strangely
grieving!

My 5 year calendar, contacts, receipts, registrations, invoices, genealogy
contacts, etc., are gone.  Ironically, I have become a back-up fanatic.
I've been backing up daily, refreshing every hour if I'm working.  I just
had to reboot because of stupid satellite issues, and an uninstall deleted
the profile again.  At least I have the last 3 days' work in back-up!  I'm
losing my mind on this one.  But that's another rant.  (Any suggestions or
ideas?)

Anyway, I'm looking for my lists' digests back to August 2 of 2002.  If you
happen to be an anal collector as I am, please email me privately?
Christine@....

I appreciate anyone's time and help.  Thank you in advance!

Christine

#4065 From: "Albert" <albert@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:40 pm
Subject: RE: [NH] OT: Mail Failures & Woes (x-Post)
albert@...
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Wow that is indeed a new one to me. I would do a search on the MS
Knowledgebase to determine whether there is a remedy to this.

Albert
Atlanta GA

-----Original Message-----
From: Christine [mailto:Christine@...]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 12:24 PM
To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NH] OT: Mail Failures & Woes (x-Post)

Hi all!

I was wondering if anyone kept the digests?

I have had a very weird "bug" happen.  I choose the word "bug" carefully,
since no one, anywhere, has ever heard of this.  Even I would tell you it's
your imagination.  Uninstalling software seems to delete my profile, which
contains Outlook and Outlook Express, mail files, Favorites, Temporary
Internet Files, settings for FTP programs, NT Back-up catalogues, and many
more important items.

So I lost that.  I rebuilt from back-up and was working on my computer
again.  Evidently, since I mapped the drives to the back-ups, the next time
I uninstalled something -- 2 weeks later -- it searched through all my
drives and deleted my back-ups.  My tale of woe.  I find myself strangely
grieving!

My 5 year calendar, contacts, receipts, registrations, invoices, genealogy
contacts, etc., are gone.  Ironically, I have become a back-up fanatic.
I've been backing up daily, refreshing every hour if I'm working.  I just
had to reboot because of stupid satellite issues, and an uninstall deleted
the profile again.  At least I have the last 3 days' work in back-up!  I'm
losing my mind on this one.  But that's another rant.  (Any suggestions or
ideas?)

Anyway, I'm looking for my lists' digests back to August 2 of 2002.  If you
happen to be an anal collector as I am, please email me privately?
Christine@....

I appreciate anyone's time and help.  Thank you in advance!

Christine




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#4066 From: "Christine" <Christine@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 5:06 pm
Subject: RE: [NH] OT: Mail Failures & Woes (x-Post)
CF_Muehling
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Trust me, Dah'link.
I've been all over there, and every tech support board, group, hardware
component, software manufacturer, and place I can think of to figure this
out.  No one has ever heard of such a thing -- and most have the attitude
*I* would have taken:  Probably Newbie who must obviously be mistaken.  But
I'm not.

Every uninstall deletes the profile.  I'm backing up like crazy, but going
back into back-ups is causing some corruption in the mail back-up files, and
I'm having trouble sending.  I'm trying not to have to face a system rebuild
again, but I might just have to.

<sigh>
Thanks for the thought, though.
Christine

-----Original Message-----
From: Albert [mailto:albert@...]
Sent: 29 September, 2003 12.41 PM
To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [NH] OT: Mail Failures & Woes (x-Post)


Wow that is indeed a new one to me. I would do a search on the MS
Knowledgebase to determine whether there is a remedy to this.

Albert
Atlanta GA

#4067 From: "Christopher Wilson" <chris@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] RE: photo editor
confesschrist
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Don Passenger Wrote:
>There are some good free programs, but it is worth it in my opinion to also
>buy a program.  Good free programs that will help you:

>the gimp
>http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/

I would highly recommend looking into the GIMP as far as free image tools
go! There is a slight learning curve, but there is with Photoshop and Paint
Shop Pro as well. The GIMP is a very capable tool! ;0)
-Chris

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#4068 From: Adrian/ Rosemary Worsfold <change@...>
Date: Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] RE: photo editor
change@...
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Irfan View is fine but XNView does the cropping much better, because you can
move the crop lines at leisure. I'm happy to take photoeditors put on magazine
CDs when they become "old". At one time this Paint Shop Pro 5 was oh so
fantastic and is yet now available for the price of a computer magazine. I'm
sure it is better now in version whatever, but it has not got worse. But I still
prefer the Micrographx Picture Publisher, and have not changed it for years.
And it was free then.

Adrian Worsfold

http://www.pluralist.co.uk

#4069 From: Jody <av1611@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2003 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] Browsers.dat Settings for Mozilla Family
notetabber
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Hi hrs,

Thanks, I finally got to test it - got bored silly. :)  It is
definitely a trimmed window. <bg>  I cannot get any links to work
though, so it isn't practical for me, but thanks for trying.  I'm
most happy with NetCaptor and then Mozilla, but have a dozen or
so for playing with. :)

>Jody, Alec and interested parties,
>
>I've done a bit more testing with Firebird and Browsers.dat.  I've found
>a method to View In Browser.
>
>The result won't be like a normal browser window, it is a window without
>dropdown menues or other controls, very much like a 'view page source',
>but, it is a html window in which to view the file with Firebird.
>
>Mozilla also, will load a file into the same type window when using the
>same command line parameter.
>
>This is the Firebird section of my Browsers.dat file.  Remember the view
>is a little different but it is html and any page links will work.
>
>[fb]
>Command=C:\MozillaFirebird\MozillaFirebird.exe -browser
>UseDDE=0
>Application=MozillaFirebird
>DdeCommand=
>DdeExec="%1",,%2,0,,,,
>Topic=WWW_OpenURL
>Application_New=
>DdeExec_New=
>Topic_New=


Happy html'n!
Jody

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#4070 From: John Altmeyer <j.altmeyer@...>
Date: Sat Oct 4, 2003 5:22 pm
Subject: Beginner Needs Help
john_altmeyer
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I'm visually impaired, nearly blind.  I recently registered Notetab Pro,
for the express purpose of publishing web sites.  I selected Notetab
because I was told it is "speech friendly, as I use a voice synthesizer in
conjunction with screen-reading software.
So, how do I go about publishing a web site with Notetab?  I may need a
little HTML assistance, too, but my primary concern is notetab.
For example, how is the Outline feature used for a web site?  Should I
begin my coding using the template?
I have read most of the documentation, but I'm just not certain where to
start.  Being basically blind, I am hoping that Notetab will present the
finished product in a visually acceptable format.  Otherwise, I would
simply code by hand.
Lastly, in case it is relevant to your suggestions and advice, I want my
site to load quickly.  Therefore, the site doesn't need to be eye catching
or "pretty".  I just want it to look neat, and be easy to read and navigate.
Being a former SYSOP of 7 years, I am more accustom to giving technical
advice than asking for it.  However, we all have to start out knowing
nothing, and I, in this case, know NOTHING!
Any and all help is sincerely Appreciated.

#4071 From: "Don Passenger" <dpasseng@...>
Date: Sat Oct 4, 2003 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] Beginner Needs Help
dpasseng
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Hi John and welcome.  There are several how to make web pages with notetab
sites.  You might try one that Jody and I made a while back for starts:

http://www.bestfoot.com/notetab/html/

If you ever need help try finding me in http://htmlfixit.com in the live
chat.  I am often there and happy to try helping you.
--

Don Passenger

#4072 From: John Altmeyer <j.altmeyer@...>
Date: Sat Oct 4, 2003 11:49 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] Beginner Needs Help
john_altmeyer
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At 03:18 PM 10/4/03 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi John and welcome.  There are several how to make web pages with notetab
>sites.  You might try one that Jody and I made a while back for starts:
>
><http://www.bestfoot.com/notetab/html/>http://www.bestfoot.com/notetab/html/
>
>Thank you, Don!  I just briefly visited the site, and I got REAL
>happy!  It appears to be just what I need to get started.  I'll check it
>out more thoroughly before football, tomorrow. <G>

>If you ever need help try finding me in
><http://htmlfixit.com>http://htmlfixit.com in the live
>chat.  I am often there and happy to try helping you.
>--
>
>Don Passenger

I may give that a try, once I have studied the other site you
recommended.  However, plese make note of my name, as live chat may be
problematic with my speech system.  I simply don't know, as I have never
attempted live chat via Windows and the Internet.  When I was a SYSOP, I
chated with my callers on the BBS without difficulty, but I help to design
the BBS software, and it was MS-DOS based.  Nevertheless, I look forward to
trying the live chat thing with you.
Should there be a problem, I'll probably just leave the site.  I'm not
rude, so just understand a problem occured.  Now, if the chat is not
problematic, that will give me a golden opportunity to ask really stupid
questions live! <G>


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#4073 From: Jody <av1611@...>
Date: Tue Oct 7, 2003 7:53 am
Subject: Re: [NH] Beginner Needs Help
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Hi John,

I may be a day late and a buck short, but we have a group for the
visually impaired and others that may have accessibility issues.
It is not very active, but I think that is only due to nobody
asks any questions. :-)  You can sign up for it and give it a
shot though by clicking on the mail to link below and send it
empty.  (Being from the old BBS days you are some sort of
dinosaur you know. ;)

mailto:fs-Accessibility-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

>I'm visually impaired, nearly blind.  I recently registered Notetab Pro,
>for the express purpose of publishing web sites.  I selected Notetab
>because I was told it is "speech friendly, as I use a voice synthesizer in
>conjunction with screen-reading software.
>So, how do I go about publishing a web site with Notetab?


Happy html'n!
Jody

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#4074 From: John Altmeyer <j.altmeyer@...>
Date: Tue Oct 7, 2003 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] Beginner Needs Help
john_altmeyer
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Hello, Mr. Date Late,
Dinosaur?  Who you calling dinosaur?  Well, never mind.  Trust me, I've
been called MUCH worse. <G>
The BBS was something in its day, particularly Fidonet.  Fidonet was the
Internet, before the Internet, as we know it to day.
Oops!  I'm getting off topic, and could be sanctioned by the moderator. <G>
I'm big on manners, so I'll assume Don is tuned in, as both of you touched
on the same point.
I did not know about the FS/accessibility group thingy.  Thanks for the
info.  However, your "mailto" link isn't a link for me.  I entered the
address you provided manually, and am waiting for something, like an
automated message, when I check my mail again.
Anyway, I'll explain the link thing, as it has me curious.  When I arrow or
tab to a link, my speech says "link" and reads the text on the line.
With your mailto, my screen reader didn't say "link".  Is that because of
the capital "A" in Accessibility"?
In short, does case matter in HTML for the mailto, ETC?
The first few messages I read here pertained to browser accessibility and
such.  I MUST publish my site by the week end.  Long story, but I need
funds yesterday.
What is the best code, if any, to include for general all-around browser
accessibility?
As a traffic magnet, I'm offering a free dog-training Ecourse.  I am
currently writing the course, which will be about 12 files, for
autoresponder purposes.
Since I only have one file completed, any advice for rapidly changing all
12 to HTML documents?
Also, is it feasible to concatenate all 12 files into one, and use the
Outline feature for online reading?
Of course, the site isn't "available" yet, but I have registered
lazy-pup.com  For the name sake, where might I grab a good doggy pic for my
main page?
Due to necessity, I must make the Internet my primary source of
income.  Therefore, I plan to construct about 20 sites in two years.  If I
am "very" successful, I will build a site and direct deposit all revenue to
a charity account.
Yes, there is a point to the digression. <G> I train dogs, but I am also a
gourmet cook, which is my next project.  I want to build a recipe/cooking
site, which will be much more complex than the lazy-pup.com project, as it
will involve converting a database into web pages, ETC.  My point is that
I'll have many questions in the future.
I'm definitely a nobody, and will make inquiries at the address you
provided.  I just hope it isn't "dead", from lack of traffic.  If so, and
for other reasons, "I'll be back!"
Thanks to any and all who are willing to address my sometimes mundane
questions.

At 02:53 AM 10/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi John,
>
>I may be a day late and a buck short, but we have a group for the
>visually impaired and others that may have accessibility issues.
>It is not very active, but I think that is only due to nobody
>asks any questions. :-)  You can sign up for it and give it a
>shot though by clicking on the mail to link below and send it
>empty.  (Being from the old BBS days you are some sort of
>dinosaur you know. ;)
>
>mailto:fs-Accessibility-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> >I'm visually impaired, nearly blind.  I recently registered Notetab Pro,
> >for the express purpose of publishing web sites.  I selected Notetab
> >because I was told it is "speech friendly, as I use a voice synthesizer in
> >conjunction with screen-reading software.
> >So, how do I go about publishing a web site with Notetab?
>
>
>Happy html'n!
>Jody
>
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#4075 From: Lewlinkous@...
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2003 1:26 am
Subject: Re: [NH] Beginner Needs Help
Lewlinkous@...
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In a message dated 10/7/2003 13:26:46 Central Daylight Time,
j.altmeyer@... writes:
> where might I grab a good doggy pic for my
> main page?
I have several pictures of my two dogs that I am willing to share.
However, I will be away from my computer until next Wednesday.
If you don't find a source sooner, look for them in your mailbox
Thursday-a-week.
Lew


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#4076 From: Jody <av1611@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2003 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] Beginner Needs Help
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Hi John,

>Dinosaur?  Who you calling dinosaur?
>The BBS was something in its day, particularly Fidonet.

I remember Fidonet. :)  Actually, I came in at the tail
end of BBS days a few years before I found out what ISP
meant. <g>

>Oops!  I'm getting off topic, and could be sanctioned by the moderator. <G>

That be me. <bg>

> I'm big on manners,

Me 2, but don't mind a little when mixed in with the actual
topic.  Actually, I like for people to add a tiny bit.  It breaks
the monotony up and makes for a freindly discussion list.

>I did not know about the FS/accessibility group thingy.  Thanks for the
>info.  However, your "mailto" link isn't a link for me.  I entered the
>address you provided manually, and am waiting for something, like an
>automated message, when I check my mail again.

When you send in this format: LISTNAME-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
you should get a confirmation message.  I then moderate (mostly
done by Julie G. for me now-a-days which I am very grateful for) first
time posters as SPAM prevention so it may take awhile for messages to
get posted the first time or two.

>Anyway, I'll explain the link thing, as it has me curious.  When I arrow or
>tab to a link, my speech says "link" and reads the text on the line.
>With your mailto, my screen reader didn't say "link".  Is that because of
>the capital "A" in Accessibility"?

You'd have to ask the folk on the "Accessibility" list about
that.  I know they have the screen reading software.  It has been
discussed; the software that is.  The "mailto:" is actually an
HTML command / tag or should I say used in HTML and eMail.  Not
all eMail programs recognize it I imagine.  Anyway, when the
"mailto:" is followed with an eMail address (no spaces) it is hot
(can be clicked on) and will open a new message to the eMail
address specified.  Here is another one for you to try:
mailto:Merry-Heart@...  Double click on that and
see if it opens a new message.  It works the same way as it does
in a browser, the only difference is in a browser it opens the
default mail program or if already open just opens the new
message.

>In short, does case matter in HTML for the mailto, ETC?

Yes in some cases.  I notice NoteTab must have the "mailto:" section in
lowercase or at least it use to be like that when using it in a Clip.
The eMail address itself is not case dependent/sensitive.

>What is the best code, if any, to include for general all-around
>browser accessibility?

Most, or a lot of people are going with "xhtml" now because that
supposedly will be the standard in the future. Personally, I
would not hold my breath about it, but that is neither here nor
there.  I think lowercase is the safest bet for now.  NoteTab can
convert to xml and/or xhtml if you want to in the future.  Look
in Options under the HTML Files tab and at the bottom there are
some boxes to check to make the code you use (when using
NoteTab's Libraries and HTML features the format you want. FWIW, I
have "Highlight HTML" tags (NoteTab Pro) and "Create Lowercase
URLs" checked.  Leaving "Create Uppercase Tags" unchecked makes it
so the tags are in Lowercase.

You want to use an HTML validator such as CSE Validator or use the
free service online at: http://www.w3.org

>As a traffic magnet, I'm offering a free dog-training Ecourse.  I am
>currently writing the course, which will be about 12 files, for
>autoresponder purposes.
>Since I only have one file completed, any advice for rapidly changing all
>12 to HTML documents?

Use NoteTab's Document to HTML | No Character Conversion under
the Modify menu. (You can put it on the Toolbar or Shortcut menu
both found in Options under those tab names.)

>Also, is it feasible to concatenate all 12 files into one, and use the
>Outline feature for online reading?

You can make a NoteTab Outline; see Help under that topic or go
to File | New Outline... in registered versions.  Once you have
the 12 topics in the Outline use the Document to HTML feature I
mentioned above.  It makes life real easy. ;)

>I will build a site and direct deposit all revenue to a charity account.

I'll send you my bank details in a private eMail or call me at 850-626-0993.
haha

Happy Fookes'n~
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#4077 From: John Altmeyer <j.altmeyer@...>
Date: Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:08 am
Subject: Re: [NH] Beginner Needs Help
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