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#6083 From: Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators
absalom_nemini
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Mike Breiding wrote:
> I am not too crazy about Javascript because of the pop-up
> blocking issue.

I agree with you. But if that's the case, then maybe you should do the
same as me and forego slideshows. The only way to do them without having
something active running on your visitors' computers that I can think of
are those moving GIFs.

Axel

#6084 From: Scott Fordin <scott@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators
sfordin2
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I'm not sure about automation, but I know that OpenOffice can
create very nice HTML presentations. In the model I've used for
quite a number of presentations users simply click a nav bar to
move forward, backward, or to the slideshow index. Also free.

Photoshop and Photoshop Elements both also have slide show
scripts, but those programs cost real money. Finally, you may
want to consider a video editing program, either standalone,
like Vegas Studio, Ulead DVD Creator, Premiere Elements, or
the tools that come with burning packages like Roxio or Nero.

Scott

Axel Berger wrote:
>
>
> Mike Breiding wrote:
>  > I am not too crazy about Javascript because of the pop-up
>  > blocking issue.
>
> I agree with you. But if that's the case, then maybe you should do the
> same as me and forego slideshows. The only way to do them without having
> something active running on your visitors' computers that I can think of
> are those moving GIFs.
>
> Axel
>
>

#6085 From: Greg Chapman <gregchapmanuk@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators
gregchapmanuk
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Hi Mike,

On 18 Jun 07 12:37 Mike Breiding <mike@...> said:
> I have not looked at Irfanview's Slideshow yet. I am not too crazy
> about Javascript because of the pop-up blocking issue.

There is only one way you can achieve an automatically advancing
slideshow in pure HTML, and that involves the <meta
http-equiv="refresh"> tag.  This, of course, has no facility for the
user to control the show.

All other methods do require the use of plug-ins, external programs,
or scriping that users may have turned off or not have installed.

You appear to know what the issues are!

I'm afraid it's the old thing of "you pays your money and makes your
choice!

Greg

#6086 From: Marcelo de Castro Bastos <mcblista@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators
mcbastos
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On the last exciting episode, aired on 18/6/2007 10:50, Axel Berger
invited the wrath of the gods by saying:
> Mike Breiding wrote:
>
>> I am not too crazy about Javascript because of the pop-up
>> blocking issue.
>>
>
> I agree with you. But if that's the case, then maybe you should do the
> same as me and forego slideshows. The only way to do them without having
> something active running on your visitors' computers that I can think of
> are those moving GIFs.
>
>
Well... it is possible using meta redirects. You make a HTML page for
each picture, and use the "meta refresh" tag to load the next page (with
the next pic) after a set number of seconds. Only problem is, meta
redirects are annoying as hell -- and, like Javascript and plugins, are
frequently disabled by users.

Marcelo

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#6087 From: Mike Breiding <mike@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [NH] HTML slide show creators
mikebreiding
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Stu Nicholls' site is amazing and I may try to incorporate one of his CSS
layouts for slides.
Thanks for the ideas!

-Mike
============
At 04:43 PM 6/17/2007 , you wrote:
>Hi Mike,
>Your imagemap is simply a brilliant way of graphically organizing your
>trips, so I'm not being kind.
>
>As Flash soundslides are set to stream, but I really don't have a way to
>test how they'd play on a lower bandwidth internet connection. I make
>websites for CD-ROM so this is not an issue for me.
>
>Have you looked at all the CSS solutions for photo galleries offered by Stu
>Nicholls? I think he's achieved amazing results without JS. See the demos on
>the left http://cssplay.co.uk/menu/ I prefer CSS to JavaScript every time,
>due to security issues, and I'm not a programmer. The one you found was
>pretty nifty, but as you said it triggers the pop-up blocker.
>
>I hope you find something that works for you,
>Corl
>
>
>========
>Corl,
>Thanks for the kind words about my
><http://epicroadtrips.us/2006/winter/>image map.
>
>I loved theSan Jose Mercury News Soundslides but I am concerned about
>bandwidth and right now I am needing to keep it simple.
>
>This javascript slide show with captions:
>http://www.codelifter.com/main/javascript/slideshow3.html
>looks promising but it triggers the pop-up blocker in IE 6. This could be a
>roadblock to viewing by some.


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#6088 From: Mike Breiding <mike@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators
mikebreiding
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I considered <meta http-equiv="refresh"> tag as well but as others have
pointed out this can trigger pop-up alarms as well.
Pluss, it is rather cumbersome.

I am about ready to scrap this idea and just use what I normally use:
http://epicroadtrips.us/2006/spring/Southern_New_Jersey/
http://epicroadtrips.us/2006/summer/yough_river_cville2dawson/

Thanks,
-Mike
==========
At 10:10 AM 6/18/2007 , you wrote:
>Hi Mike,
>There is only one way you can achieve an automatically advancing
>slideshow in pure HTML, and that involves the <meta
>http-equiv="refresh"> tag.  This, of course, has no facility for the
>user to control the show.
>Greg


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#6089 From: "Corl DeLuna" <corl@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:05 pm
Subject: RE: [NH] HTML slide show creators
corl_deluna
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Hi Mike,

I had no idea you had so much more on your site. Woah! Tons of pictures with
a lots of interesting background info about each. I think most slide shows
would limit the amount of info you like to share. I'd like to point you to a
subsection of Stu's site related to image mapping that I think is right up
your alley.

http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/mapper.html
http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/balloons.html
  <http://cssplay.co.uk/menu/old_master.html>
http://cssplay.co.uk/menu/old_master.html and there is so much more.

Your site as it is, is very impressive, but I wouldn't have known about New
Jersy without the link in this email. May I suggest more work on your site
wide navigation, while keeping it simple like you are already. Maybe taking
your FL imagemap idea and showing  your whole route traced out for all 13
states?

Best to you on your HTML road trip,
Corl


   _____

From: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ntb-html@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Breiding
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:35 AM
To: ntb-html@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators



I considered <meta http-equiv="refresh"> tag as well but as others have
pointed out this can trigger pop-up alarms as well.
Pluss, it is rather cumbersome.

I am about ready to scrap this idea and just use what I normally use:
http://epicroadtrip
<http://epicroadtrips.us/2006/spring/Southern_New_Jersey/>
s.us/2006/spring/Southern_New_Jersey/
http://epicroadtrip
<http://epicroadtrips.us/2006/summer/yough_river_cville2dawson/>
s.us/2006/summer/yough_river_cville2dawson/

Thanks,
-Mike
==========
At 10:10 AM 6/18/2007 , you wrote:
>Hi Mike,
>There is only one way you can achieve an automatically advancing
>slideshow in pure HTML, and that involves the <meta
>http-equiv="refresh"> tag. This, of course, has no facility for the
>user to control the show.
>Greg

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#6090 From: "Alec Burgess" <buralex@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators
alecb3ca
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Hi Mike - this thread sure sparked a lot of replies. Just wanted to suggest
one of Eric Fookes own programs for this task.

Easy Imager <http://www.fookes.com/ezimager/index.php> One of many options
this program provides is generation of Slide shows. It DOES use a simple
javascript file scripts.js to handle the transitions from one picture to
next and selection of speed.

If you are at all handy with HTM, by tweaking the templates ( in Templates
folder within the Program Files folder) you can make the display look like
just about anything you like if non of the provided styles meets your needs.

Not free ($34.95) but has Fookes usual 30-day trial. If you're not convinced
its worth the price you COULD just generate a couple of samples, look at the
HTML that gets generated and then use some fairly simple clips to modify
your sample without even using Easy Imager again after the trial is over. If
you like what it generates you might want to get a licensed copy though :-)



> Anyone have suggestion for a simple on-line slide show creator?
> I need only the ability to build the slow, not storage, hosting or
> uploading abilities.
> My preference if for on which show thumbs in a row at the bottom and had
> both manual and automated shows with variable view times.
> I tried the MS PowerToys slide show but could not get it to work in
> advanced mode.
> There are quite a few out there so I hope some of you all have tried one
> or
> two and can let me know what you think.



--
Regards ... Alec
--


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#6091 From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:17 pm
Subject: http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
horsefly_38866
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If you can get the
  http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html

Please validate and see if you can see the two errors that w3c html validator is
showing me. I have looked and looked, evidently since I made them , I just
cannot see them.
http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html

Also if you will check the master.css at
http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/master.css
and see why I cannot get the colors right on my link at the bottom of
hello_world.html.


Ed

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#6092 From: Rudolf Horbas <rhorbas@...>
Date: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
rhorbas
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> http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html

Your problems are all around lines 24-26:
(x-es to prevent html filtering.)

<x div id="page-container">
<x p align="center"><x span style="font-family:Arial; font-size:12pt;
font-weight:strong; color:white;">
<x div id="page-container">


1. You can't use an ID twice, as you do with "page-container"
2. You're not closing the p tag
3. You're not closing the span tag

Rudi

#6093 From: "Cary Driscoll" <carydriscoll@...>
Date: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
eidirsceoil
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You have this styling:

html, body {
                          background:#F5F5DC;
                          margin:0;
                          padding:0;
                          font-family:arial;
                          font-size:12pt;
                          font-weight:strong;
                          link:#000080;
                          align:#FF0000;
                          vlink:#00FF00;
}

According to the W3C CSS Validator...

Line 7 - html, body
   Value Error : font-weight strong is not a font-weight value

Line 8 - html, body
   Property link doesn't exist

Line 9 - html, body
   Property align doesn't exist

Line 10 - html, body
   Property vlink doesn't exist

I'm not sure what you wished to achieve with "align:#FF0000", but the rest
can be rewritten using something like this:

html, body {
          background:#F5F5DC;
          margin:0;
          padding:0;
          font-family:arial;
          font-size:12pt;
          font-weight:bold;
}
a:link {
          color:#000080;
}
a:vlink {
          color:#00FF00;
}

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward"
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: [NH]
http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html


> Also if you will check the master.css at
> http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/master.css
> and see why I cannot get the colors right on my link at the bottom of
hello_world.html.

#6094 From: Marcelo de Castro Bastos <mcblista@...>
Date: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:52 am
Subject: Re: [NH] http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
mcbastos
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On the last exciting episode, aired on 27/6/2007 18:43, Rudolf Horbas
invited the wrath of the gods by saying:
>
> 2. You're not closing the p tag
> 3. You're not closing the span tag
>
>

Or, more accurately, you are trying to put divs inside a p and a span
(they ARE being closed below...)

- DIV is a block element;
- SPAN is a inline element;
- P is special case of a block element.

You see, you can't put block elements inside inline elements -- or
inside P elements, which are  block, but cannot contain other blocks.


Marcelo

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#6095 From: Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV <mike@...>
Date: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:29 pm
Subject: HTML slide show creators
mikebreiding
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About 10 day s ago I sent an email wanting info on slide shows.
I received a message back about voice over slide shows and a link to a new
paper site which showcased the history of a town in California.

I can't locate these emails.
Would whoever sent them be kind enough to resend?

Thanks,
-Mike


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www.EpicRoadTrips.us

~~~



~~~





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#6096 From: loro <loro-spam01-@...>
Date: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators
yastupidhoo
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Mike Breiding - Morgantown WV wrote:
>About 10 day s ago I sent an email wanting info on slide shows.
>I received a message back about voice over slide shows and a link to a new
>paper site which showcased the history of a town in California.

<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ntb-html/message/6071>

Lotta

#6097 From: Mike Breiding <mike@...>
Date: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] HTML slide show creators
mikebreiding
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At 02:51 PM 6/28/2007 , loro wrote:

><http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ntb-html/message/6071>
>
>Lotta


Thanks!
-Mike

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#6098 From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:29 am
Subject: Re: [NH] http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
horsefly_38866
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Thanks Rudy, I really appreciate your input on these pages.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rudolf Horbas" <rhorbas@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [NH]
http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html


>> http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
>
> Your problems are all around lines 24-26:
> (x-es to prevent html filtering.)
>
> <x div id="page-container">
> <x p align="center"><x span style="font-family:Arial; font-size:12pt;
> font-weight:strong; color:white;">
> <x div id="page-container">
>
>
> 1. You can't use an ID twice, as you do with "page-container"
> 2. You're not closing the p tag
> 3. You're not closing the span tag
>
> Rudi
>
>
> NoteTab site: http://www.notetab.com/
> Fookes Software site: http://www.fookes.com/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#6099 From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:28 am
Subject: Re: [NH] http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
horsefly_38866
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Thanks for looking. I have re written the whole thing and it is worse than
it was in the beginning, because I made too many changes in too much of a
hurry. Now I will get back to it in a day or so .  I am reading up on it a
little more.  Thanks again for your input, it was very valueable to me.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cary Driscoll" <carydriscoll@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NH]
http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html


> You have this styling:
>
> html, body {
>                         background:#F5F5DC;
>                         margin:0;
>                         padding:0;
>                         font-family:arial;
>                         font-size:12pt;
>                         font-weight:strong;
>                         link:#000080;
>                         align:#FF0000;
>                         vlink:#00FF00;
> }
>
> According to the W3C CSS Validator...
>
> Line 7 - html, body
>  Value Error : font-weight strong is not a font-weight value
>
> Line 8 - html, body
>  Property link doesn't exist
>
> Line 9 - html, body
>  Property align doesn't exist
>
> Line 10 - html, body
>  Property vlink doesn't exist
>
> I'm not sure what you wished to achieve with "align:#FF0000", but the rest
> can be rewritten using something like this:
>
> html, body {
>         background:#F5F5DC;
>         margin:0;
>         padding:0;
>         font-family:arial;
>         font-size:12pt;
>         font-weight:bold;
> }
> a:link {
>         color:#000080;
> }
> a:vlink {
>         color:#00FF00;
> }
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward"
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:17 PM
> Subject: [NH]
> http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
>
>
>> Also if you will check the master.css at
>> http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/master.css
>> and see why I cannot get the colors right on my link at the bottom of
> hello_world.html.
>
>
>
> NoteTab site: http://www.notetab.com/
> Fookes Software site: http://www.fookes.com/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#6100 From: "Cary Driscoll" <carydriscoll@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:38 am
Subject: Re: [NH] http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
eidirsceoil
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Oops. The visited link styling I gave below should be

a:visited {
         color:#00FF00;
}


----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NH]
http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html


> Thanks for looking. I have re written the whole thing and it is worse than
> it was in the beginning, because I made too many changes in too much of a
> hurry. Now I will get back to it in a day or so .  I am reading up on it a
> little more.  Thanks again for your input, it was very valueable to me.
> Ed

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cary Driscoll"
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [NH]
>
http://home.comcast.net/~ebrown1927/Weatherford/test-pages/hello_world.html
>
> > a:vlink {
> >         color:#00FF00;
> > }

#6101 From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:11 pm
Subject: What does this mean?
horsefly_38866
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Error Line 2, column 120: DTD did not contain element declaration for document
type name .

This is the top of the document.
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

What is lacking here?
Ed

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#6102 From: "Don - HtmlFixIt.com" <don@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] What does this mean?
dpasseng
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Delete the top line Edward.  It is unneccessary.  It will clear the
issue for you.  The very first line in a document needs to be the
Document Type Declaration (or DTD).  The xml line is not needed for your
purposes and was put there undoubtedly by notetab as they once had it in
their standard web page template.

Don

Edward wrote:
> Error Line 2, column 120: DTD did not contain element declaration for document
type name .
>
> This is the top of the document.
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
>
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
>
> What is lacking here?
> Ed
>

#6103 From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:16 pm
Subject: OK What does this mean
horsefly_38866
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I thought I remembered that and I did remove it before your answer. However,
there were some other errors which I have cleared up and now it looks like
this.
   1.. Error Line 1, column 120: DTD did not contain element declaration for
document type name .
...R/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">✉

   2.. Error Line 2, column 42: document type does not allow element "html"
here .
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">The element named above was found
in a context where it is not allowed. This could mean that you have
incorrectly nested elements -- such as a "style" element in the "body"
section instead of inside "head" -- or two elements that overlap (which is
not allowed).

   One common cause for this error is the use of XHTML syntax in HTML
documents. Due to HTML's rules of implicitly closed elements, this error can
create cascading effects. For instance, using XHTML's "self-closing" tags
for "meta" and "link" in the "head" section of a HTML document may cause the
parser to infer the end of the "head" section and the beginning of the
"body" section

and the top of the document looks like this.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">


I have one other error and it is on the last line, it says: error <html>
document has not been opened.  I think if I ever get the top one correct
then that will clear up.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don - HtmlFixIt.com" <don@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NH] What does this mean?


> Delete the top line Edward.  It is unneccessary.  It will clear the
> issue for you.  The very first line in a document needs to be the
> Document Type Declaration (or DTD).  The xml line is not needed for your
> purposes and was put there undoubtedly by notetab as they once had it in
> their standard web page template.
>
> Don
>
> Edward wrote:
>> Error Line 2, column 120: DTD did not contain element declaration for
>> document type name .
>>
>> This is the top of the document.
>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
>>
>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
>>
>> What is lacking here?
>> Ed
>>
>
>
> NoteTab site: http://www.notetab.com/
> Fookes Software site: http://www.fookes.com/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#6104 From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] What does this mean?
horsefly_38866
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For get the last message, I went to the htmlfixit.com and stole the heading
from that page and it works great. Thanks Franki
Ed
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From: "Don - HtmlFixIt.com" <don@...>
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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NH] What does this mean?

#6105 From: loro <loro-spam01-@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] What does this mean?
yastupidhoo
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Edward wrote:
>Error Line 2, column 120: DTD did not contain element declaration for
>document type name .
>
>This is the top of the document.
><?xml version="1.0"?>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC

<snip>


Doctypes are partly case sensitive. XHTML doctypes must have 'html' (in the
snip above) in lower case.

http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html

Lotta

#6106 From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:14 pm
Subject: css
horsefly_38866
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Hi Everyone,
I have a new css page up that goes with the index.html in the test-pages.  Don,
you and I know that only IE can read the top part of the css. So I would like to
have two css pages. One for IE which will not ever pass W3C  CSS Validator and
the other for all other browsers which sooner or later it will pass. I read some
of your messages concerning using more than one css but it did not all sink in,
the sink is stopped up.   :-))  This is what the IE only looks like:

body {
                          font-weight: bold;
                          font-size: 12pt;
                          font-family: arial, helvetica;
                          font-weight: bold; background: ccffff;
                          scrollbar-color: #FFFFF0;
                          scrollbar-highlight-color: #FFFFF0;
  scrollbar-shadow-color: #663300;
  scrollbar-3dlight-color: #FFFFFF0;
  scrollbar-arrow-color: #FF0000;
  scrollbar-track-color: #663300;
  scrollbar-darkshadow-color: #000080;
  scrollbar-face-color: #FCFBDC;
  bgcolor: #FCFBDC;
  background: #FCFBDC;
}
------------------------------------------tear from
mycss.css.-------------------------------------

Now I want to use this for all the other browsers:
body {
                          font-weight: bold;
                          font-size: 12pt;
                          font-family: arial, helvetica;
                          font-weight: bold; background: ccffff;

}

h1
{text-align: center;
color: #663300;
}
h2
{text-align: center;
color: #663300;
}

Thanks
Ed


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#6107 From: loro <loro-spam01-@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:28 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] OK What does this mean
yastupidhoo
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Edward wrote:
>I thought I remembered that and I did remove it before your answer. However,
>there were some other errors which I have cleared up and now it looks like
>this.

The XML declaration isn't an error. It's often not used because it, or
anything else, before the doctype puts IE6 in quirks mode. But it's
definitely kosher to use it.

Lotta

#6108 From: Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] css
absalom_nemini
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Edward wrote:
> body { font-size: 12pt;

One thing:
Never ever use font size except for small parts of your pages and then
only relative sizes. I know what my eyes and my screen are like and I
have chosen the font size I find most pleasant and easy to read. If you
want me to read your stuff, you had better accept that.
And anyway, in all those of my browsers that allow it, the minimum font
size allowed is set to 14 pt. If you haven't made other sizes on your
page relative to the font size this will mess up a lot more and also
lose suble font size differences that might actually make sense.

In HTML the reader is the arbiter over how stuff looks - it has been
designed that way from the start. And if you don't accept that and want
to force your readers to endure things the way you think fit you'll have
to pay them decent wages. It's not that there weren't other sites out
there to go to.

#6109 From: "Edward" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: [NH] What does this mean?
horsefly_38866
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That is great, I searched all over their website but never ran across that
page. I have it in my favorites now.  But I learned a long time ago that if
some one has an xhtml transistion web page that validates, grab what you
need and go with it. Worked for me.
Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "loro" <loro-spam01-@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [NH] What does this mean?


> Edward wrote:
>>Error Line 2, column 120: DTD did not contain element declaration for
>>document type name .
>>
>>This is the top of the document.
>><?xml version="1.0"?>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC
>
> <snip>
>
>
> Doctypes are partly case sensitive. XHTML doctypes must have 'html' (in
> the
> snip above) in lower case.
>
> http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html
>
> Lotta
>
>
>
> NoteTab site: http://www.notetab.com/
> Fookes Software site: http://www.fookes.com/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#6110 From: "Ed Brown" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:05 am
Subject: Re: [NH] css
horsefly_38866
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Thanks very much for your input and I will try to make the changes you
suggested.
Again thanks
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Axel Berger" <Axel-Berger@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NH] css


> Edward wrote:
>> body { font-size: 12pt;
>
> One thing:
> Never ever use font size except for small parts of your pages and then
> only relative sizes. I know what my eyes and my screen are like and I
> have chosen the font size I find most pleasant and easy to read. If you
> want me to read your stuff, you had better accept that.
> And anyway, in all those of my browsers that allow it, the minimum font
> size allowed is set to 14 pt. If you haven't made other sizes on your
> page relative to the font size this will mess up a lot more and also
> lose suble font size differences that might actually make sense.
>
> In HTML the reader is the arbiter over how stuff looks - it has been
> designed that way from the start. And if you don't accept that and want
> to force your readers to endure things the way you think fit you'll have
> to pay them decent wages. It's not that there weren't other sites out
> there to go to.
>
>
> NoteTab site: http://www.notetab.com/
> Fookes Software site: http://www.fookes.com/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#6111 From: "Ed Brown" <ebrown1927@...>
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:11 am
Subject: Re: [NH] OK What does this mean
horsefly_38866
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I have it ironed out now and it validates fine and it will become the
index.html page when I know it will work.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "loro" <loro-spam01-@...>
To: <ntb-html@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NH] OK What does this mean


> Edward wrote:
>>I thought I remembered that and I did remove it before your answer.
>>However,
>>there were some other errors which I have cleared up and now it looks like
>>this.
>
> The XML declaration isn't an error. It's often not used because it, or
> anything else, before the doctype puts IE6 in quirks mode. But it's
> definitely kosher to use it.
>
> Lotta
>
>
>
> NoteTab site: http://www.notetab.com/
> Fookes Software site: http://www.fookes.com/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#6112 From: Eric Fookes <egroups@...>
Date: Fri Jul 6, 2007 10:01 pm
Subject: NoteTab Pro 5.3 and NoteTab Std 5.3 released!
eric_fookes
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Hi everyone,

We're pleased to announce the release of NoteTab Pro 5.3 and NoteTab Std
5.3! This update is free for NoteTab 5.x customers.

You will find the upgrade information through NoteTab's "Check for
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Improvements since previous update:
-----------------------------------

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Feature not available under Windows Vista.

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* Many other minor improvements and bug fixes.

--
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