composite or compositing is probably yet towards new in Linux.

And since Ubuntu likes to advance on the latest, I'd put money on it
that Ubuntu has composite enabled by default.

Not that it is your problem for I do not know.  But some specific video
hardwares/video drivers do not get along so well with compositing.  And,
thus, some people turn off the compositing which in these cases
sometimes gives them better video than, say, "just a bit of an
accident/oops" which is what they had for video before they turned off
the compositing.

Use at your own risk.

http://www.google.com/webhp#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=linux+disab\
le+compositing&pbx=1&oq=linux+disable+compositing&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=\
4874l20296l0l21249l25l25l0l7l7l0l297l2707l4.10.4l18l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=\
f8762d46b80ffe5d&biw=1272&bih=829

--
Alan.

>   Just to repeat my info for this problem.
>
>   I've got notetab installed on two different machines.  My desktop, and
> by laptop.  Both machines are running ubuntu, both updated.  The desktop
> works fine, but the laptop shows this highly annoying black border.
> This has persisted across ubuntu upgrades.  Last time I commented on
> this both the desktop and laptop were on Ubuntu 10.0, now I'm running 11.04
>
> =========================================
> Desktop that has no black border:
>
> Date: August 11, 2011
> Hardware: HP Pavillion a1600n (desktop)
> Processor: i686 athlon i386
> RAM: 936MB
> Operating System: Linux 2.6.38-10-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28
> 15:05:41 UTC 2011
> Distribution: Ubuntu Ubuntu 11.04
>
> Window Manager: Gnome
> Type: NTP
> Name: NoteTab Pro 6.2
> Wine: wine-1.2.2
>
> Wine Thinks This is:
> Platform: Win32_NT
> Version: WinXP
>
> =========================================
> Laptop that HAS an ugly and frustrating black border:
>
> Hardware: HP G60-441 laptop
> Processor: x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
> RAM: 2950MB
> Operating System: Linux 2.6.38-10-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28
> 15:07:17 UTC 2011
> Distribution: Ubuntu Ubuntu 11.04
>
> Window Manager: Gnome
> Type: NTP
> Name: NoteTab Pro 6.2
> Wine: wine-1.2.2
>
> Wine Thinks This is:
> Platform: Win32_NT
> Version: WinXP
>
> =========================================
>
> Wish I had a clue as to what was causing this, because it makes notetab
> almost unusable on the laptop.
>
> Donald

Thanks, Alan.

Is anyone else having a problem with Yahoo Groups this morning? It is acting
like I am not a member of my groups. I am the administrator of ntb-linux, and it
asks if I want to join.

ARG!

 
Larry Hamilton


________________________________
From: Al <acummingsus@...>
To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Re: black border interfering with edit area

composite or compositing is probably yet towards new in Linux.

And since Ubuntu likes to advance on the latest, I'd put money on it
that Ubuntu has composite enabled by default.

Not that it is your problem for I do not know.  But some specific video
hardwares/video drivers do not get along so well with compositing.  And,
thus, some people turn off the compositing which in these cases
sometimes gives them better video than, say, "just a bit of an
accident/oops" which is what they had for video before they turned off
the compositing.

Use at your own risk.

http://www.google.com/webhp#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=linux+disab\
le+compositing&pbx=1&oq=linux+disable+compositing&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=\
4874l20296l0l21249l25l25l0l7l7l0l297l2707l4.10.4l18l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=\
f8762d46b80ffe5d&biw=1272&bih=829

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The ntb-linux Clip Library I mentioned for gathering information is in File
Area.

It is called:

ntb-linux.zip
ntb-linux Clip Library Version 1.0.1

Put this in your NoteTab Libraries under Wine.

The clip "Get Wine & *nix Info" is what we need. I need to update it to capture
information on Monitors and Video drivers, if possible. Until then, you will
need to gather that information manually, as suggested by Alan's posts.

It also has a clip for getting Windows information, that will work in both Wine
and Windows.

It has a few other clips that you might find helpful.

If there are suggestions for additions or improvements, please let me know.

~ Larry

Odd, my work laptop using FireFox my Yahoo Groups don't work right, but they are
fine with Internet Explorer. I was worried for a minute, but now have a new
mystery to solve.

Curioser and curioser.

~ Larry

--- In ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com, Larry Hamilton <lm_hamilton@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Alan.
>
> Is anyone else having a problem with Yahoo Groups this morning? It is acting
like I am not a member of my groups. I am the administrator of ntb-linux, and it
asks if I want to join.
>
> ARG!

Well, since it was all my Yahoo Groups, but only on Firefox, I deleted my login
for Yahoo from Firefox.

It still somehow remembered me as logged in in Yahoo Groups. I had to log out.

I found when I modded my router to go to DD-WRT last month, the how-to mentioned
Firefox would pull an old password out of the ether, and recommended using IE if
on Windows. Now I have seen it, in case anyone else runs into it.

~ Larry

--- In ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence" <lm_hamilton@...> wrote:
>
> Odd, my work laptop using FireFox my Yahoo Groups don't work right, but they
are fine with Internet Explorer. I was worried for a minute, but now have a new
mystery to solve.
>
> Curioser and curioser.
>
> ~ Larry

Larry Hamilton wrote:
> Is anyone else having a problem with Yahoo Groups this morning? It is acting
like I am not a member of my groups. I am the administrator of ntb-linux, and it
asks if I want to join.
>
> ARG!

An older Firefox on Slackware 12.2 it took me 15 minutes late last night
to get logged on to my yahoogroups.

it rejected my correct user and correct password as invalid

it then brought up graphic with alpha numeric string for me to enter

repeat times 6

Then clicked on lost my password whereby it told me I incorrectly
entered the alpha numeric string is the problem not my password (after
it rejected that password times 6 or more).

Finally it took and logged me on.  But I'd changed nothing.

Power flickers, motherboard conductivity problems, overloaded, glitch in
the sql of its database records, hard drive didn't write correctly to
one spot on disk -- IOW it looks to me like yahoo's server(s) were
having reality alteration things going on.  Otherwise known as whacko

--
Alan.

No problems on my home PC using Firefox on Ubuntu.

When I have weird unexplained problems helping clients with the various software
I support in my day job (accounting & payroll) I call it a "Twighlight Zone
Issue". I like to have answers and clients often demand them, but if you can't
find the circumstances that led to the cause, then the answer is, "I don't
know".

I hate that answer.

I spent 6 hours on an "issue" over several days because totals were changing for
a client. Pulled in a copy of their data so I could play with it, and finally
narrowed it down to they changed the way they had some things configured, but
did not change their process to match how it now works. I like how "nothing has
changed", leads to something wrong with the software. They can keep their old
procedure if they don't change their configuration, or keep the configuration if
they change their procedures.

Now if I could just make that border thing appear to help those affected, but it
seems to be a display/video related issue.

I like puzzles, but need all the pieces to hope to figure out this one.

~ Larry

--- In ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com, Al <acummingsus@...> wrote:
>
> An older Firefox on Slackware 12.2 it took me 15 minutes late last night
> to get logged on to my yahoogroups.
>
> it rejected my correct user and correct password as invalid
>
> it then brought up graphic with alpha numeric string for me to enter
>
> repeat times 6
>
> Then clicked on lost my password whereby it told me I incorrectly
> entered the alpha numeric string is the problem not my password (after
> it rejected that password times 6 or more).
>
> Finally it took and logged me on.  But I'd changed nothing.
>
> Power flickers, motherboard conductivity problems, overloaded, glitch in
> the sql of its database records, hard drive didn't write correctly to
> one spot on disk -- IOW it looks to me like yahoo's server(s) were
> having reality alteration things going on.  Otherwise known as whacko
>
> --
> Alan.

Lawrence wrote:
> Now if I could just make that border thing appear to help those affected, but
it seems to be a display/video related issue.
>

Since his desktop machine does not have the issue whilst his laptop
does.  And, any video in Wine has to access down through (or on top of)
the Linux video driver.

If it were mine I'd check any and all to do with Linux video ie what
hardware, which driver being used by the kernel, the refresh rates being
used, the dpi

sometimes you have to blacklist a driver in your udev config (it
sometimes auto thinks it needs a driver too many)

When all that known to be fully up to needed spec. and if still the
prob. then I'd try disable composite

If still the prob then I'd leave composite off then begin further as
formerly above but perhaps (I would do so) try an older version and/or a
newer version/edition of the correct Linux video driver needed.

Linux chrome vid driver (hardly anybody has that vid hardware anymore)
doesn't fully auto detect in Slackware -- you have to manually enter in
some ie the refresh rates and some others then you get real nice video
otherwise you will be stuck with very grainy and not pretty 800 x 600 or
even 600 x 450 resolution (yuck).

The all of video is like a unit that all of its various pieces must be
correct or else the whole thing is thrown off even if just only very
slightly so due to, for example, a slightly off refresh rate (config.
problem).

--
Alan.

I still have black border issue too.

Clip reports:

Date: August 12, 2011
Hardware: Generic
Processor: i686 unknown unknown
RAM: 1219MB
Operating System: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:34:50 UTC
2010
Distribution: Ubuntu Linux Mint 10 Julia \n \l

Window Manager: Gnome
Type: NTP
Name: NoteTab Pro 6.2
Wine: wine-1.2.2

Wine Thinks This is:
Platform: Win32_NT
Version: WinXP

Regards,
Mark

as requested, here is my lspci info

desktop WITHOUT the problem:
lspci
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150
LE] (rev a2)
00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
00:0a.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a3)
00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev a1)
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller
(rev a1)
00:0f.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller
(rev a1)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio
(rev a2)
00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Miscellaneous Control
03:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW322/323 (rev 70)
03:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros
AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
03:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k
Data/Fax Modem
$




laptop WITH the black border problem:
lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory
Controller Hub (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #6 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI
Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express
Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express
Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI
Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller
(rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI
Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller
(rev 03)
00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9
Family) Thermal Subsystem (rev 03)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless
Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
$


I can see that my desktop is using nVidia and my laptop is using Intel
drivers, but if that is the problem it seems like it should be a LOT
more common, shouldn't it?

Donald

al@P5Q:/var/log$ pwd
/var/log
al@P5Q:/var/log$ ls | grep Xorg
Xorg.0.log
Xorg.0.log.old
al@P5Q:/var/log$

You need to look at your X server's log file, Xorg.0.log it resides
under /var/log on Slackware.

BTW the video drivers are loaded by the X server (vid drivers do not
show with the lsmod command - at least it's this way on slackware).
Above log file tells you which vid driver(s) loaded successfully or not.

BTW, FWIW, in the slackware forum (I regularly follow this forum for
years and years) at linuxquestions.org for longer than the last 7 or 8
months, many (unhappy) posts about Intel video driver.  Such driver been
under heavy development (generally impacts stability ie covers many
models Intel vid hardware - the challenge to not break other Intel
hardware models while improving for some models).  Some those posts,
they get it to working alright.

if that is the problem it seems like it should be a LOT
more common, shouldn't it?

How many people are using Notetab in Wine on your version of Ubuntu with
the same Intel vid hardw as yours?

How many members are there on this ntb-linux emailing list?

If that other poster who is also with the same prob could do lspci as
you did and then post the results.
>   as requested, here is my lspci info
>
>
> laptop WITH the black border problem:
> lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory
> Controller Hub (rev 09)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
> Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset
> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
>
>
> I can see that my desktop is using nVidia and my laptop is using Intel
> drivers, but if that is the problem it seems like it should be a LOT
> more common, shouldn't it?
>
> Donald

(I know it's been a while since anyone posted so I hope someone is still there
...)

I have just installed Ubuntu 10.4 on a new hard drive. I then installed Wine v
1.2.3, and NoteTab Pro 6.0. I then copied over the NoteTab Pro directory from
the previous drive so that I would have the same set-up, etc. All seems to work
fine except for one problem:

When NTP starts, the cursor has focus on the page; however, when I switch to
another program and back it loses focus (except for the first time I do it). I
then have to click the cursor on the page to regain focus or press "ESC". Also,
when I switch back to NTP the "File" menu is highlighted (pressing "ESC" takes
the focus off it and back to the cursor as mentioned above), however the title
bar in the program itself shows as if the program does not have focus (it is
grayed-out). In fact, I am typing this in NTP right now and it is still
grayed-out, as if it didn't have focus. Yet I can click on the title bar and it
then shows the color.

I thought someone had a problem like this a while back but I checked my mailing
list files and couldn't find anything. Anyone have any ideas?

Hardware:
     Processor: Dual Intel, Premium
     RAM: 3.2 GB (4 GB actually)
     Other Info:
Operating System:
     Linux: Ubuntu 10.4, Kernel: 2.6.32-40-generic
     NoteTab: NoteTab Pro 6.0
Wine:
     Version: 1.2.3

Lee

I'd get a more up-to-date version of wine from www.winehq.org, I got 1.4 from
there and it has sorted a lot of the niggles I was experiencing.
fw

--- On Wed, 4/18/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:

From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
Subject: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
To: "NoteTab Linux Groups" <ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2012, 12:00 AM
















 









       (I know it's been a while since anyone posted so I hope someone is still
there ...)



I have just installed Ubuntu 10.4 on a new hard drive. I then installed Wine v
1.2.3, and NoteTab Pro 6.0. I then copied over the NoteTab Pro directory from
the previous drive so that I would have the same set-up, etc. All seems to work
fine except for one problem:



When NTP starts, the cursor has focus on the page; however, when I switch to
another program and back it loses focus (except for the first time I do it). I
then have to click the cursor on the page to regain focus or press "ESC". Also,
when I switch back to NTP the "File" menu is highlighted (pressing "ESC" takes
the focus off it and back to the cursor as mentioned above), however the title
bar in the program itself shows as if the program does not have focus (it is
grayed-out). In fact, I am typing this in NTP right now and it is still
grayed-out, as if it didn't have focus. Yet I can click on the title bar and it
then shows the color.



I thought someone had a problem like this a while back but I checked my mailing
list files and couldn't find anything. Anyone have any ideas?



Hardware:

     Processor: Dual Intel, Premium

     RAM: 3.2 GB (4 GB actually)

     Other Info:

Operating System:

     Linux: Ubuntu 10.4, Kernel: 2.6.32-40-generic

     NoteTab: NoteTab Pro 6.0

Wine:

     Version: 1.2.3



Lee

























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I should have advised going to Wine 1.4, which is the new stable release.


I have not posted for awhile as I am getting my house ready to sell, on top of
other projects.

~ Larry



________________________________
  From: fw7oaks <fw7oaks@...>
To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus

I'd get a more up-to-date version of wine from www.winehq.org, I got 1.4 from
there and it has sorted a lot of the niggles I was experiencing.
fw

--- On Wed, 4/18/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:

From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
Subject: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
To: "NoteTab Linux Groups" <ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2012, 12:00 AM
















 



 


   
     
     
      (I know it's been a while since anyone posted so I hope someone is still
there ...)



I have just installed Ubuntu 10.4 on a new hard drive. I then installed Wine v
1.2.3, and NoteTab Pro 6.0. I then copied over the NoteTab Pro directory from
the previous drive so that I would have the same set-up, etc. All seems to work
fine except for one problem:



When NTP starts, the cursor has focus on the page; however, when I switch to
another program and back it loses focus (except for the first time I do it). I
then have to click the cursor on the page to regain focus or press "ESC". Also,
when I switch back to NTP the "File" menu is highlighted (pressing "ESC" takes
the focus off it and back to the cursor as mentioned above), however the title
bar in the program itself shows as if the program does not have focus (it is
grayed-out). In fact, I am typing this in NTP right now and it is still
grayed-out, as if it didn't have focus. Yet I can click on the title bar and it
then shows the color.



I thought someone had a problem like this a while back but I checked my mailing
list files and couldn't find anything. Anyone have any ideas?



Hardware:

    Processor: Dual Intel, Premium

    RAM: 3.2 GB (4 GB actually)

    Other Info:

Operating System:

    Linux: Ubuntu 10.4, Kernel: 2.6.32-40-generic

    NoteTab: NoteTab Pro 6.0

Wine:

    Version: 1.2.3



Lee



   
   

   
   






 










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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks to both of you. I'll give that a try. (I forgot that Ubuntu is several
versions of Wine behind, although I don't know why.)

I'll let you know what happens.

Lee


> I should have advised going to Wine 1.4, which is the new stable release.
>
>
> I have not posted for awhile as I am getting my house ready to sell, on top of
other projects.
>
> ~ Larry
>
> > ________________________________
>  From: fw7oaks <fw7oaks@...>
> To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
>
> I'd get a more up-to-date version of wine from www.winehq.org, I got 1.4 from
there and it has sorted a lot of the niggles I was experiencing.
> fw
>

It does not make aense that Ubuntu updates fior the beta 5x series is hard to
find. I have not been able to test to see if there is anything new to report. I
may have to find time to compile from source.
It isn't hard, but takes more atrention to detail than just installing an
update.

Larry

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Well, that didn't go well. The program was s-----l-----o-----w I had to revert
back to Wine v 1.2.2. I'll just live with this minor inconvenience for now.
(Actually, v.1.0 worked much better. I just might switch back to that.)

Thanks anyway.

Lee


> Thanks to both of you. I'll give that a try. (I forgot that Ubuntu is several
versions of Wine behind, although I don't know why.)
>
> I'll let you know what happens.
>
> Lee
>
>
> > I should have advised going to Wine 1.4, which is the new stable release.
> >
> >
> > I have not posted for awhile as I am getting my house ready to sell, on top
of other projects.
> >
> > ~ Larry
> >
> > > ________________________________
> >  From: fw7oaks <fw7oaks@...>
> > To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
> >
> > I'd get a more up-to-date version of wine from www.winehq.org, I got 1.4
from there and it has sorted a lot of the niggles I was experiencing.
> > fw
> >

I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)

--- On Wed, 4/25/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:

> From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
> Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
> To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 7:30 PM
> Well, that didn't go well. The
> program was s-----l-----o-----w I had to revert back to Wine
> v 1.2.2. I'll just live with this minor inconvenience for
> now. (Actually, v.1.0 worked much better. I just might
> switch back to that.)
>
> Thanks anyway.
>
> Lee
>
>
> > Thanks to both of you. I'll give that a try. (I forgot
> that Ubuntu is several versions of Wine behind, although I
> don't know why.)
> >
> > I'll let you know what happens.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> > > I should have advised going to Wine 1.4, which is
> the new stable release.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have not posted for awhile as I am getting my
> house ready to sell, on top of other projects.
> > >
> > > ~ Larry
> > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > >  From: fw7oaks <fw7oaks@...>
> > > To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor
> focus
> > > 
> > > I'd get a more up-to-date version of wine from
> www.winehq.org, I got 1.4 from there and it has sorted a lot
> of the niggles I was experiencing.
> > > fw
> > >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     ntb-linux-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>
>

You know I was just thinking of you the other day and that you probably are
still using v 1.0. I just might revert back to that so I don't have these other,
new problems. If something works, why change?

Thanks,

Lee


> I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)
>
> --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
> > Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
> > To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 7:30 PM
> > Well, that didn't go well. The
> > program was s-----l-----o-----w I had to revert back to Wine
> > v 1.2.2. I'll just live with this minor inconvenience for
> > now. (Actually, v.1.0 worked much better. I just might
> > switch back to that.)
> >
> > Thanks anyway.
> >
> > Lee
> >

Any idea where I can get a binary copy of v.1 so i don't have to figure out how
to "build" one?

With the current version, I am also having a problem with losing NoteTab Pro
when I switch to other programs and then switch back, I can't see it in the
alt-tab window or on the toolbar with the other programs. Any one else have this
problem?

Lee


> I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)
>

I thought I might have an old .deb stashed but no luck.  I upgraded to Squeeze
about a year ago but can't remember how I got wine installed.  Once I did, I
just dropped my old .wane folder into Home and was good to go.  Try here for
older versions:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/wine/files/Source/


--- On Sun, 4/29/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:

> From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
> Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
> To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:22 PM
> You know I was just thinking of you
> the other day and that you probably are still using v 1.0. I
> just might revert back to that so I don't have these other,
> new problems. If something works, why change?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lee
>
>
> > I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
> > > Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor
> focus
> > > To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 7:30 PM
> > > Well, that didn't go well. The
> > > program was s-----l-----o-----w I had to revert
> back to Wine
> > > v 1.2.2. I'll just live with this minor
> inconvenience for
> > > now. (Actually, v.1.0 worked much better. I just
> might
> > > switch back to that.)
> > >
> > > Thanks anyway.
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     ntb-linux-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>
>

Thanks but I already tried there. Those have to be "built" and I'm not sure how
to do it, plus the Wine site talks about "installing build dependencies"  and I
have no idea what that means. Think I'll just stick with what I have until I can
find an old .deb file or work out the current problem.

BTW, the problem I mention in my last e-mail ("losing NoteTab Pro when I switch
to other programs and then switch back") only happens intermittently. I'll see
how it works.

Lee


> I thought I might have an old .deb stashed but no luck.  I upgraded to Squeeze
about a year ago but can't remember how I got wine installed.  Once I did, I
just dropped my old .wane folder into Home and was good to go.  Try here for
older versions:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wine/files/Source/
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/29/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
> > Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
> > To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:22 PM
> > You know I was just thinking of you
> > the other day and that you probably are still using v 1.0. I
> > just might revert back to that so I don't have these other,
> > new problems. If something works, why change?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> > > I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)
> > >

Does anyone know how to restore access to NoteTab once it does get "dropped"
from the program panel and the ALT-TAB switcher? It's really getting old now
having to keep killing NoteTab and then re-start it.


> BTW, the problem I mention in my last e-mail ("losing NoteTab Pro when I
switch to other programs and then switch back") only happens intermittently.
I'll see how it works.

Do you mean current version of Ubuntu or Wine?

With Ubuntu 11.x and up, the new interface makes alt+tab a little off for me. I
have to try a couple of times to get it to go to the program I want. This is
whether I have a program running in Wine or not.

 
Larry Hamilton


________________________________
  From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus

Any idea where I can get a binary copy of v.1 so i don't have to figure out how
to "build" one?

With the current version, I am also having a problem with losing NoteTab Pro
when I switch to other programs and then switch back, I can't see it in the
alt-tab window or on the toolbar with the other programs. Any one else have this
problem?

Lee


> I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)
>


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It doesn't happen to any program not running under Wine so it must be related to
Wine (v.1.2.2), although it could be a combination of both (I'm running Ubuntu
10.04 - I like the LTS versions) because it didn't happen when I was running
Ubuntu 8.04 and an earlier version of Wine. I am "trying" to see what makes it
happen but I usually am working away and (sometimes) ... poof ... it's gone. It
doesn't happen all the time but it is frustrating when it does. I don't know if
it makes a difference but when I ran NoteTab Pro 6.2 using the terminal I got
the follow errors (there not dups, it printed out all three errors):

fixme:font:load_VDMX No suitable ratio found
fixme:font:load_VDMX No suitable ratio found
fixme:font:load_VDMX No suitable ratio found

I can't seem to find what this means and if it is related to the "missing
program" problem (although I doubt it seeing as it mentions the font). As was
previously mentioned, it ran fine (with the known problems of the cursor) under
Wine v.1.

BTW, does anyone know who to "bring the program back" so I can switch to it?
It's still running -- I can see it in the System Monitor.

Lee


> Do you mean current version of Ubuntu or Wine?
>
> With Ubuntu 11.x and up, the new interface makes alt+tab a little off for me.
I have to try a couple of times to get it to go to the program I want. This is
whether I have a program running in Wine or not.
>
>  
> Larry Hamilton
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
> To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
>
> With the current version, I am also having a problem with losing NoteTab Pro
when I switch to other programs and then switch back, I can't see it in the
alt-tab window or on the toolbar with the other programs. Any one else have this
problem?
>

--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:

[snip]

> BTW, does anyone know who to "bring the program back" so I can switch to
> it? It's still running -- I can see it in the System Monitor.


Hi Lee

Perhaps this will point you in the right direction

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/56942

Since I can't lose my NoteTab I don't know if it will work but it works on a
background NoteTab using Gnome 2.30 on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS from a command prompt
type

wmctrl -R Notetab

HTH

fw

Thanks, I'll give it a try and let you know.

Lee

> --- On Mon, 4/30/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > BTW, does anyone know who to "bring the program back" so I can switch to
> > it? It's still running -- I can see it in the System Monitor.
>
>
> Hi Lee
>
> Perhaps this will point you in the right direction
>
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/56942
>
> Since I can't lose my NoteTab I don't know if it will work but it works on a
background NoteTab using Gnome 2.30 on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS from a command prompt
type
>
> wmctrl -R Notetab
>
> HTH
>
> fw

Just had a thought . . . have you tried to force the version back to 1.0?

--- On Sun, 4/29/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:

> From: Lee Underwood <leeu@...>
> Subject: Re: [ntb-linux] Problem with cursor focus
> To: ntb-linux@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 12:54 PM
> Any idea where I can get a binary
> copy of v.1 so i don't have to figure out how to "build"
> one?
>
> With the current version, I am also having a problem with
> losing NoteTab Pro when I switch to other programs and then
> switch back, I can't see it in the alt-tab window or on the
> toolbar with the other programs. Any one else have this
> problem?
>
> Lee
>
>
> > I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     ntb-linux-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>
>

Ah, I hadn't thought of that. I could give it a try and see. Thanks.



> Just had a thought . . . have you tried to force the version back to 1.0?
>
> --- On Sun, 4/29/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:
>
> > Any idea where I can get a binary
> > copy of v.1 so i don't have to figure out how to "build"
> > one?
> >
> >
> >
> > > I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >

Well, that was a bust. It will only allow me to use either v.1.2.2 or v.1.1.42.
Anyone have any other suggestions? Meanwhile, I'm going to try the Wine site and
the Ubuntu forum.

Lee


> Ah, I hadn't thought of that. I could give it a try and see. Thanks.
>
>
>
> > Just had a thought . . . have you tried to force the version back to 1.0?
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/29/12, Lee Underwood <leeu@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Any idea where I can get a binary
> > > copy of v.1 so i don't have to figure out how to "build"
> > > one?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I still use Wine 1.0 because it works.  :)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>