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#15353 From: "Leslie R. Pastor" <lrpastor@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 2:26 pm
Subject: Necessity & Reverse Engineering: Pioneering New Techologies
richard_pastor
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Have you ever heard the phrase: “Necessity is the mother of invention?”  How about ‘reverse engineering?’  Could it be that we can ‘reverse’ our pollution problem?  Think about it!

 

It gets better; methanol is easier than you think, even better than hydrogen.  Any ‘system’ that purports to be a ‘good’ system, should ostensibly be ‘reversible’ and thus applicable to ‘interchangeability.’ http://www.technologyreview.com/BizTech/wtr_16466,296,p1.html

 

George Olah http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/faculty/faculty1003584.html winner of the 1994 Nobel Prize in chemistry discovered the process whereby this can be accomplished.  According to Olah, we can solve our polution problem by a very simple process of ‘reversal’ of our nasty emmisions and create a dynamic ‘fuel’ to run our ‘fuel cell’ powered cars.  He can accomplish this because he has developed a methanol fuel cell.

 

The problem with most ‘novelty of fact’ systems, is that they require ‘creating an infrastructure.’

And thus they would fit the classic ‘control paradigm’ methodology.  What is needed is a ‘technology’ that will enable the usage of ‘pre-existing’ infrastructures that will not hinder a rapid changeover from an already stable economic environment that is already inplace globally.

 

We already have a cacophany (or if you will a cornupopia) of preexisting and dynamic possible alternative methodologies that are both ‘novelty of fact’ and ‘standard’ technologies.  What is needed is the appropriate ‘management’ to ‘integrate and merge’ these technologies into a seemless fabric maintaining the integrity of our technological base and thus enabling all of us to weather ALL possible assaults to our  individual ‘sovereignty’ as ‘nation-states’ and ‘individuality.’  A rapid changeover is untenable and a revolutionary changeover would significantly unsettle the preexisting ‘dynamics’ that are already functioning.

 

With the recent ‘creation’ of Modern China, this would not be a ‘problem,’ because they are only now establishing their primary ‘infrastructure.’  They can now develop and incorporate both ‘standard’ and ‘novelty of fact’ systems side by side, with negligible impact upon the Chinese people.  They are the future, for all intent and purpose, because of their relative ‘newness’ and ‘mass market’ dynamics in an already established world economic system.  The ‘world’ is beating a path to their doorstep for an opportunity to participate in China’s groundbreaking.  This oppportunity only comes once, if ever.  For China is the single most important ‘monolith’ to have awakened from its ‘deep’ hibernation since the time of Marco Polo.

 

All the Best,

Leslie R. Pastor

New Energy Congress

http://peswiki.com/energy/New_Energy_Congress

 

RESEARCH:

 

George Olah

http://nobelprize.org/chemistry/laureates/1994/

http://nobelprize.org/chemistry/laureates/1994/olah-autobio.html

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/faculty/faculty1003584.html

http://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/events.taf?function=show&cat=allconf&EventID=GC05&SPID=1622&level1=speakers&level2=bio&ID=145

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Olah

http://www.greenjobs.com/Public/newsitems/news_00235.aspx

 

Nanotechnology Now

http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=13209

http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/FuelCellToday/IndustryInformation/IndustryInformationExternal/NewsDisplayArticle/0,1602,7037,00.html

 

The Hungary Page: Nobel Laureates

http://hipcat.hungary.org/nobel.htm

 

What is Methanol?

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-methanol.htm

http://www.ethanol-gec.org/clean/cf05.htm

 

The Methanol Economy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol_economy

http://www.feasta.org/documents/wells/contents.html?two/panel2.html

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/NATURE/08/24/australia.trees.enn/

http://www.wiley-vch.de/publish/en/books/forthcomingTitles/CH00/3-527-31275-7/?sID=d05b

http://www.wiley-vch.de/publish/en/company/news/6026/?sID=d05b

http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-3527312757.html

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_164305.htm

http://www.nanovip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=987

http://www.dotynmr.com/PDF/Doty_Practical_Energy_Brief.pdf

 

Sources of Methanol

http://www.iags.org/methanolsources.htm

 

Methanol From Coal

http://www.iags.org/n071204t2.htm

http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage735.html

http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/FuelCellToday/FCTFiles/FCTArticleFiles/Article_821_Methanol%20from%20Coal.pdf

http://www.batteriesdigest.com/id307.htm

http://www.michigan.gov/deq/0,1607,7-135-3585_4127_4172-11312--,00.html

 

Hydrogen

http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/hydrogen.html

http://www.eyeforfuelcells.com/ReportDisplay.asp?ReportID=1360

 

Stan Ovshinsky

http://web.mit.edu/invent/iow/ovshinsky.html 

http://www.ovonic.com/our_company/1_3_people/people.htm 

http://www.time.com/time/reports/environment/heroes/heroesgallery/0,2967,ovshinsky,00.html

http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=article&storyid=820

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#15354 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" <bap@...>
Date: Fri Mar 3, 2006 4:31 pm
Subject: Wind powered electric car?
nuenergy_sci...
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#15355 From: "Doctor Whodini" <doctor_whodini01@...>
Date: Sat Mar 4, 2006 3:04 am
Subject: OSEN TV, AAG TV
doctor_whodini
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Hello all,

Just a reminder to tune in to the Energetic Garage internet tv show this
Saturday night starting at 6pm pacific, 8pm central.

http://stream.osen.org/eg

Bill

---
William S. Alek
Exploring Gravitational and Inertial Mass fluctuations,
Radiant Energy, and Temporal Anomalies
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/intalek

   INTALEK, INC.           PHONE/FAX: 219.924.2742
   3506-43rd. Place            EMAIL: mailto:wsalek01@...
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#15356 From: MessiahTwain <yonibluestar@...>
Date: Sun Mar 5, 2006 1:58 am
Subject: the fascist control of 'physics' visavis Planck, Maxwell, Dirac, etc. etc.
yonibluestar
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~~
~~~~

this, from 1997!

re-discovered on the internet ...



Millennium

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AenertialAether/

~~~~
~~~~~


Over the past 24 or so hours I have received several items of
email from one "Millennium Twain" (who usually mails from the
-- invalid -- address of none@...).  These
messages have been about free energy, the "aenertial aether", the
conspiracy to suppress such science and various similar topics.

The text of these messages is presented below.

  -- acb

   Message-ID: <33A46FDF.3D70@...>
   Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:42:52 -0800
   From: "M.Twain" <none@...>
   X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
   MIME-Version: 1.0

   To: mmalovic@...

   Subject: Ether Drift Experiments.

   Hello Miodrag,

   Yeah, "The Michelson-Morley-Miller experiments ALL showed ether drift."
   The problem is that none of the experiments were sensitive enough to
   detect the small measurements required.  [And the results were in random
   directions, as you say.]  That is, the error bars were greater than the
   measurements needed and predicted.

   Worse, all the results of the experiments were politically slanted -- in
   order to discredit the aether, to control the emerging knowledge of the
   structure of the atom, and to build up Germany's Einstein.

   Worse yet, none of the players (Michelson, Morley, Miller, Poincare,
   Einstein, etc.) had an existing theory or model of the aether!  Thus the
   experiments, even if they had sensitivity, could produce no results as
   there were no predictions which had any objective meaning.

   Basically, the problem was political.  An aether theory would be by
   definition a theory of the continuum (ref Mach).  This would overturn
   the fascist control of knowledge visavis Planck, Maxwell, Dirac, etc.
   which required that knowledge of electromagnetism absolutely must not be
   integrated with knowledge of the structure of the atom!

   Even today, with the world in revolution/renaissance, the covert
   government/industry machine refuses to relinquish this paradigm.  They
   are prepared to admit that Einstein and everyone was wrong, but only if
   we agree that the lie of mathematical ZPF is the new ruling paradigm --
   promoted by Bernie Haisch of Lockheed Missiles and Space Company, and
   Harold Puthoff (CIA-sponsored research scientist formerly of Stanford
   Research Institute).

   Only government-controlled large corporations will be allowed to
   research and build cold-fusion, free-energy, superluminal-communication
   and other technologies -- if we agree to their counter-intelligence.

   When (the Frenchman) Sagnac built the world's first laser
   interferometer, and thus proved the existance of the inertial aether
   continuum (if not its structure) -- this technology was acquired and
   controlled by the world's aerospace industries.  It resulted in little
   public or theoretical discussion, and no aether theory modeling.

   The French have always known about the German-sponsored American
   counter-intelligence operation of Quantum Mechanics and Relativity
   Theory built up by Planck, Einstein, Sommerfeld, Schrodinger, Dirac, and
   everyone.  Poincare was quite clear about it at first -- SRT was
   nonsense he said.  But the French were out-voted, and came along.  If
   you read the 1905 to 1910 discussions (and later book) of
   superluminality by Sommerfeld (translated from the German) and Brillouin
   (translated from the French) -- they stated, not publicly or loudly, that
   obviously the speed of light limitation of SRT was nonsense (and they
   showed exactly where and when nature violated it) -- but said that they
   thought that the Planck/Einstein political dogma was important and they
   would not contest its rise!

   That, of course, didn't stop the French from continuing R&D specifically
   into those areas barred by the counter-intelligence, nor the Germans
   (and others) who were the first to conduct and publish superluminal
   tunnelling experiments.


   Millennium Twain

..

.

#15358 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" <bap@...>
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 4:06 pm
Subject: Scientists unplug tabletop fusion
nuenergy_sci...
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#15359 From: "The Doctor" <doctor_whodini01@...>
Date: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:39 am
Subject: Bill Alek Interview for Broadband
doctor_whodini
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Welcome to the NUCLEAR VILLAGE project:
http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/461/1/Bill-Alek-Interview-for-Broadb\
and

TRAVELING THRU SPACE AND TIME: "The idea here is that you don't directly
manipulate the space between two points, but rather the time it takes to
traverse space. You simply shorten the time." -- Doctor Whodini, 2004.

Bill

---
William S. Alek
FREE ENERGY, Antigravitational and Time Travel Technologies
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/intalek>

   INTALEK, INC.               PHONE/FAX: 219.924.2742
   3506-43rd. Place                EMAIL: <mailto:wsalek01@...>
   Highland, IN 46322-3129 USA HOME PAGE: <http://www.intalek.com/>

#15360 From: "Doctor Whodini" <doctor_whodini01@...>
Date: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:13 am
Subject: OSEN TV AAG TV - tonight!
doctor_whodini
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Hello all,

Tim and Matthew will be hosting another "classic" Energetic Garage show
tonight!

From Tim Ventura's desk:
News, Interviews, and More

Interested in learning more about alt-science on the web? Check out "The
Energetic Garage", airing live from 6pm to 9pm PST. This is our 4th show,
and we're still ironing out bugs in our technical equipment, but we'll be
taking audience calls, doing interviews, and chatting about the latest
trends in breakthrough technology. Requires Windows Media Player & a
broadband connection...

Watch it Live: http://stream.osen.org/eg> TEG Live Webcast
Call-In Numbers (Canada): 604-628-3486

Bill

---
William S. Alek
Exploring Gravitational and Inertial Mass fluctuations,
Radiant Energy, and Temporal Anomalies
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/intalek

   INTALEK, INC.           PHONE/FAX: 219.924.2742
   3506-43rd. Place            EMAIL: mailto:wsalek01@...
   Highland, IN 46322 USA  HOME PAGE: http://www.intalek.com/

#15361 From: "Leslie R. Pastor" <lrpastor@...>
Date: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:33 pm
Subject: James Clerk Maxwell''s 1873 Edition of Treatise on Electricity And Magnetism
richard_pastor
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This was just posted on ZPEnergy [Vlad] and also on the Free Energy Updates Newsletter by Sterling D. Allan.  It is a significant documentation regarding James Clerk Maxwell's Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism.  I suggest that this information become a part of every serious 'researcher's' 'database,' who is interested in 'overunity' physics.  Understanding Maxwell is a significant precursor to achieving the proper 'knowledgebox' and thus avoiding the pitfalls of 'cognitive dissonance.'
 
All the Best,
Leslie R. Pastor
New Energy Congress
 
Ps: A 'knowledgebase' is only as good as the model and references contained within one's 'knowledge box.'
 
Research:
 
James Clerk Maxwell's 1873 Edition of His Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism
James Clerk Maxwell's Original EM Work and Theory
Tom Bearden's Explanation [as explained to me] Regarding Maxwell
Directory: MEG: [New Energy Congress]
The MEG
Brilliant Disguise: Light, Matter and the Zero-Point Field
http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1669 
References:
Physical Space As A Quaternion Structure
 
James Clerk Maxwell
 
Oliver W. Heaviside
"Despite this hatred of rigour, Heaviside was able to greatly simplify Maxwell's 20 equations in 20 variables, replacing them by two equations in two variables. Today we call these 'Maxwell's equations' forgetting that they are in fact 'Heaviside's equations'. Similar work was done by Hertz who actually got the credit for that. But in the fine print Hertz admits his ideas came from Heaviside. FitzGerald wrote: "Maxwell's treatise is cumbered with the debris of his brilliant lines of assault, of his entrenched camps, of his battles. Oliver Heaviside has cleared these away, has opened up a direct route, has made a broad road, and has explored a considerable trace of country."
 
Explanation Regarding Heaviside/Gibbs 'obfuscation' and extremely 'limited' [printed] version of Maxwell's Equations
Precursor Engineering: Directly Altering Physical Reality
The Importance of Leyton's Hierarchies of Symmetry
 
 
 
 
 
 

#15362 From: "Marsha" <Mofmars3@...>
Date: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:10 pm
Subject: Please, for the sake of our children and their future, this takes just one minut
mofmars3
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Please, for the sake of our children and their future, this takes just
one minute. We need 10, 000 signatures and we're almost halfway there
in one week.

911 Truth, as well as all other truth needs to come out, now

Scholars Call for Release of 9/11 Information
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172?ltl=1141667399

Please forward everywhere

#15363 From: "waynegage2000" <waynegage@...>
Date: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: Please, for the sake of our children and their future, this takes just one minut
waynegage2000
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If you are searching for a conspiracy, please have your head examined.
The terrorist Muslims who are responsible for 911 indorse your efforts.


--- In nuenergy@yahoogroups.com, "Marsha" <Mofmars3@...> wrote:
>
> Please, for the sake of our children and their future, this takes
just
> one minute. We need 10, 000 signatures and we're almost halfway there
> in one week.
>
> 911 Truth, as well as all other truth needs to come out, now
>
> Scholars Call for Release of 9/11 Information
> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172?ltl=1141667399
>
> Please forward everywhere
>

#15364 From: "Vencislav" <vencib@...>
Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:28 am
Subject: Re: Please, for the sake of our children and their future, this takes just one minut
vencib
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--- In nuenergy@yahoogroups.com, "waynegage2000" <waynegage@...>
wrote:
>
> If you are searching for a conspiracy, please have your head
> examined. The terrorist Muslims who are responsible for 911
> indorse your efforts.


The terrorist Muslims who are responsible for 911 terror attack?

Gee, I didn't know that Dick Cheney and his gang are muslims?!

I signed the petion, because I want to know the truth.
I want those who organized and excecuted 911 terror attack
to be in jail. I'm tired of lies comming from the
current government representatives...

I want to know what happend to America, and how,
why money is wasted on endless wars around the world,
instead on scientific research, health and medicine,
sport, space research and exploration?

Vencislav, proudly signed the petiton for 911 truth
information release demand.



> --- In nuenergy@yahoogroups.com, "Marsha" <Mofmars3@> wrote:
> >
> > Please, for the sake of our children and their future, this
takes
> just
> > one minute. We need 10, 000 signatures and we're almost halfway
there
> > in one week.
> >
> > 911 Truth, as well as all other truth needs to come out, now
> >
> > Scholars Call for Release of 9/11 Information
> > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172?
ltl=1141667399
> >
> > Please forward everywhere
> >
>

#15365 From: "Geoff Egel" <geoffegel_99@...>
Date: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:45 am
Subject: Experiments in non conventional energy CD now online free
geoffegel_99
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Experiments in non conventional energy  from energy 21 now free to view
online at
http://www.linux-host.org/energy/

If you find it interesting
and you like to help in my future research into practical hydrogen
production for everyone
Donations  of any  currency would be most welcome  and can be sent to

Geoff Egel
18 Sturt Street
Loxton  5333
South Australia
Australia
enjoy Geoff

#15366 From: "Leslie R. Pastor" <lrpastor@...>
Date: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:36 pm
Subject: The Suppression of a Book: As Easy as 'merger & acquisition'
richard_pastor
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It’s easy to suppress a book today, one simply organizes a ‘merger/acquisition’ of the ‘offending’ book company and then the book is pulled from further ‘publication.’  There is no fuss, not even a ‘plausible deniability’ is required.  Simply ‘merge’ the offending ‘book’ company into another company and retire the ‘publishing rights.’  Done!

 

How can this be accomplished within a ‘free’ society?   Simple.  The ‘operating’ system of every ‘country’ is its ‘monetary’ system.  This ‘monetary’ system is controlled by ‘private’ central banks, who, in turn ‘control’ all of the ‘corporations’ within its sphere of ‘influence.’  There is no regulation from ‘government’ and thus the ‘monetary’ rules and procedures are completely administered by the ‘private’ central bank.

 

You’ve heard of the Plunge Protection Team [initiated by former President Ronald Reagan.] and how they effectively ‘safeguard’ the New York Stock Exchange.  Well the Federal Reserve is enabled to intervene in all ‘markets’ and thus ‘safeguard’ each and every market.  Money is either generated by ‘monetized’ debt, which is essentially what the US Currency is, or it is ‘washed’ into a complex ‘system’ of ‘exchange’ rates encompassing the entire ‘global’ network of International ‘central’ Banks.  Anyone other than the ‘banking fraternity’ attempting to do the same thing would immediately be arrested and prosecuted for violating the ‘stringent’ monetary laws of their respective country.  In other words, ‘monetary’ policy is strictly a ‘control’ paradigm to regulate ‘commerce’ and thus ‘trade’ with respect to all ‘goods and services’ produced globally.

 

I mention all this to enable you to understand what I’m about to tell you.  A recent book edited by Jonathan Eisen, was essentially ‘retired’ when the book company that published it, was ‘merged’ into another book company and then ‘silently’ removed from the ‘radar’ screen.  You will begin to understand the possible ‘ramification’ of what transpired, when you recognize the nature of the book.  Plausible deniability is an effective tool in most instances, when attempting to control ‘information’ and the ‘ideas’ associated with that information.  When any ‘subject-matter’ that is ‘uncomfortable’ with the ‘control’ paradigm is allowed to ‘progress’ among the populace of ‘free’ societies, and if it is not checked and filtered, then it is ‘suppressed’ silently via a variety of ‘methodologies’ and ‘influences.’  Similarly the ‘converse’ is true as well, all ‘books’ deemed ‘appropriate’ and ‘readable,’ such as ‘textbooks,’ ‘technical’ books, and ‘science’ books, are given ‘carte blanche’ treatment.  No questions asked, because they fit within the ‘criteria’ established by the appropriate ‘protocols’ of the ‘control’ paradigm network.

 

Simply order a copy of the book: Suppressed Inventions & Other Discoveries by Jonathan Eisen, ISBN 0-89529-809-0, and you will understand, how the ‘contents’ of the book would become a ‘subject-matter’ conflict with the ‘control’ paradigm.  The book is breathtaking in its openness regarding actual suppression of ‘real-time’ inventors and innovators.

 

All the Best,

Leslie R. Pastor

New Energy Congress

http://peswiki.com/energy/Free_Energy_Congress

 


Order your copy immediately [knowledgebase material]

From Barnes & Noble, Borders, Amazon, etc.

http://www.nutech2000.com/prod12.htm

http://www.nutech2000.com/category3_1.htm

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0399527354/103-4299995-1506219?v=glance&n=283155 

ISBN 0-89529-809-0

Avery Publishing Group

120 Old Broadway

Garden City Park, NY 11040

1-800-548-5757

http://www.averypublishing.com


Rudy Shur began his work in publishing as a field representative for Charles E. Merrill Publishing Company and William C. Brown Publishing Company, and later founded Avery Publishing Group, where he was responsible for the acquisition of over 1,000 titles, many of which became bestsellers. Currently, Mr. Shur is the publisher of Square One Publishers in Garden City Park, New York.

How To Publish Your Nonfiction Book    Source: http://www.squareonepublishers.com/gen_authors.html 

 

 

 

 


#15367 From: Mark Bennett <blackice@...>
Date: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:27 am
Subject: Re: The Suppression of a Book: As Easy as 'merger & acquisition'
blackiceuk
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Hi

There's several as used books on amazon.com. Just secured one for 9$

As a journalist i see supression happening on a more subtle way. as
boroughs said 'we are the policemen'

M

#15368 From: "Dan Quale" <magnetodynamics@...>
Date: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:42 pm
Subject: New website http://www.overuntiybuilder.com
magnetomaniac
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Hi,

I have launched a much needed website called http://www.overunitybuilder.com/ ,
it is designed to provide the best
overunity designs, educate about overunity principles and eventually
provide detailed instructions and parts lists. As of now, almost all
designs are my own, however more will be added from myself and others.
I think you will agree that this site is not B.S. and you will find my
designs both clear, simple and practical. Although I have not attempted to
patent any of my designs, I will entertain that possibility for a period of one
year from the published date, and after that they will become public domain. I
have plenty of unpublished designs so don't worry about me giving away anything.
I have motors, generators, and an alternative to the m.e.g. called the E.R.T and
more, go and enjoy.

Dan Quale

#15369 From: "Nu Energy Research Laboratories" <bap@...>
Date: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:33 am
Subject: Re: New website http://www.overuntiybuilder.com
nuenergy_sci...
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Dan,
 
     Very nice site.
 
          -Bruce P.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Quale
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:42 PM
Subject: [nuenergy] New website http://www.overuntiybuilder.com

Hi,

I have launched a much needed website called http://www.overunitybuilder.com/ , it is designed to provide the best
overunity designs, educate about overunity principles and eventually
provide detailed instructions and parts lists. As of now, almost all
designs are my own, however more will be added from myself and others.
I think you will agree that this site is not B.S. and you will find my
designs both clear, simple and practical. Although I have not attempted to patent any of my designs, I will entertain that possibility for a period of one year from the published date, and after that they will become public domain. I have plenty of unpublished designs so don't worry about me giving away anything. I have motors, generators, and an alternative to the m.e.g. called the E.R.T and more, go and enjoy.

Dan Quale

#15370 From: Robin van Spaandonk <rvanspaa@...>
Date: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: New website http://www.overuntiybuilder.com
rvanspaa
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In reply to  Dan Quale's message of Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:42:51
-0000:
Hi,
[snip]
>designs both clear, simple and practical. Although I have not attempted to
patent any of my designs, I will entertain that possibility for a period of one
year from the published date, and after that they will become public domain. I
have plenty of unpublished designs so don't worry about me giving away anything.
I have motors, generators, and an alternative to the m.e.g. called the E.R.T and
more, go and enjoy.

You appear to be saying here that you will make designs public,
while reserving the right to patent them for one year.
That's not how patent law works. Once you have made them public,
they are unpatentable, because they already reside in the public
domain.
Therefore, you need to choose beforehand. Either publish or patent
- not both.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/

Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.

#15371 From: Robin van Spaandonk <rvanspaa@...>
Date: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: New website http://www.overuntiybuilder.com
rvanspaa
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In reply to  Nu Energy Research Laboratories's message of Sat, 25
Mar 2006 19:33:40 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>  I have launched a much needed website called http://www.overunitybuilder.com/
, it is designed to provide the best
[snip]
I have only one question: Have you built a working device
according to any of these designs?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/

Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.

#15372 From: "Dan Quale" <magnetodynamics@...>
Date: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:16 pm
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#15373 From: "biogasoline" <biogasoline@...>
Date: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:55 pm
Subject: Making Biogasoline at Home OR You could be driving in a CheeseMobile!
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You really Can Make Your Own Biomass Biogasoline!
Or
"As Strange As It Sounds, You Too Could Be Driving Around In A
CheeseMobile™"

No, I am not connected to David Ramey or his businesses (EEI or
ChemLac Corporation) in any way!
I am not affiliated with them, but they are certainly into something
really cool.

Everybody listen up!

David Ramey's companies and their patents, do not prevent anyone from
making Biogasoline now!
True, they have done some very good work in the field, and have been
rewarded and awarded under Article 1, Section 8 of the US
Constitution" A Grant Of Letters Patent" on a genetically altered
bacteria, and also a new patent, on a newer and even more efficient
fermentation process.
That does not mean that you are prevented by patent law from making
your own Butanol/other higher alcohols/Ethanol blend of Biogasoline
using anaerobic fermentation of biomass!
Indeed, that is just what the founding fathers (and mothers)
envisioned when they allowed  by a "Grant of Letters Patent, " (the
exclusive right to license to manufacture) for just 17years " (since
extended to just twenty years by the WTO treaty)
This short, exclusive right to use a new use a new innovation or
process, is the sole reward given to innovators and inventors…a
reward for agreeing to "give it to the world" at the end of the 17-20
year exclusive use period.
The "prior art,' that is to say "the basic processes" is as old as
Louis Pasteur and was used 100 years ago, to do this sort of
fermentation.
The use of anaerobes to make Biogasoline or a Butanol-Ethanol mixture
of 10-15% Ethanol is over a century old!
Those older patents expired when your grandpa was still in baby
diapers!

I believe that the commencement of a cottage Butanol-based biomass
Biogasoline industry, to parallel the fledgling BioDiesel industry is
way (or should I say whey) overdue!

It would create an interesting fleet of  CheeseMobiles to promote the
very concept of  biomass Biogasoline, in the  mind of the public at
large worldwide!

.It would create just the sort of media buzz and top-of-mind
awareness (especially at the gas pump) needed to force to politicians
to break ranks with the oligarchy(sic).

It would also give David Ramey's pioneering efforts to revive the
long-moribund biomass-Butanol fuel and solvent industry a sorely
needed shot in the arm.

The way I see it, the cottage BioDiesel industry really needs to
grow, and grow now, to encompass Biogasoline to get the wide
acceptance and funding biomass fuels really need.

Biogasoline needs more pioneers like Davis Ramey.

Are you one of them?

And David Ramey should welcome the formation, of an emerging cottage
biomass Biogasoline industry, because the need is so great, and the
payback so huge, for encouraging legions of disciples, working in
tandem, to innovate, and improvise,  to improve processes, and
process yields; and to develop new and innovative biomass feedstock
sources and resources.

I do not speak for David Ramey

That said, I do believe that David Ramey would encourage this
approach too.

Perhaps he would even allow the licensed use of his patented microbes
to assist such innovators, since it is in the interests of his
companies and it's shareholders to do so.

Having legions of supporters, actually already making, and using,
their own home-spun biomass Biogasoline, in all sorts of places, and
geographical locations, gives far more political clout, when lobbying
for funding, for pilot- plant DOE grant seed money.

  Ramey has been doing such lobbying for several years with only
limited success.

He has been trying desperately to raise a mere 3 million dollars of
seed grant money to build a pilot biomass Butanaol fermentation
plant, without much political support!

Clearly the Oiligarchy (sic) is obstructing David Ramey's efforts,
just to continue the status-quo, and protect, and to continue the
huge oil company's wind-fall profits, due to OPEC's price fixing and
the oil spot market's manipulation by sellers, posing as shill
futures-trading bidders.

Do you see any oil companies at all, actually funding David Ramey's
biomass Butanol gasoline substitutes, with any of those huge new
windfall profits that they now claim they need to keep, to "Reinvest,
to discover New Future Energy Supplies?"

Would you ever imagine, that THAT sort of funding could be a good
thing, should it ever materialize?

Would you really like to see the oil companies, become the ones to
provide that much needed funding?

Before you say "yes" and let THEM make David Ramey an offer he cant
refuse, and simply buy out/off Ramey and squelch the new Biogasoline
process, consider this;

David Ramey has been stoically resisting such offers!

I think that makes him a true patriot!

For all the reasons why, you need only to consider the fate of The
Off-Grid Solarex Solar Cell Breeder Plant founded in 1982, in
Frederick MD, by another couple of alternative energy visionaries,
who were also way ahead of their time, and could find no other viable
financial support.

To recoup their investment, they were forced to sell-out to the
Oiliarchy(sic), who then, let the likes of Enron pick their bones
clean, like the vultures they were.

  I have included that sordid "History of The Solarex Breeder Plant"
[1]  at the end of this article in the "Lessons Learned" section.

I would urge all readers to inspect the history of the Solarex Solar
Breeder and then ask yourselves "would a similar fate for BioDiesel
and Biogasoline be ok with me?

If the answer is no, then I would further urge to give your full
support to Biogasoline and BioDiesel as cottage industries, and in
particular I urge the development of the cottage Biogasoline from
cheese milk, and corn mash, and biomass, in support of David Ramey's
pioneering efforts to revive the moribund biomass biogasoine and
bioButanol industries.

There is only ONE logical reason that the US DOE does not even bother
to list Butanol as an alternative Biomass fuel option, despite the
long pre-petroleum age industrial production history!

Of course the American public has been deemed unworthy to know,
exactly what the American energy policy really is, since the official
records of that infamous March 2001 private meeting, with the
Oiligarchy(sic) has been declared private by a Federal Court, and
placed out of bounds for American's public realm of knowledge
(formerly known as "American History").

	 No, I do not speak for David Ramey, but I thank him for his
service to America, both as a submariner in the Cold War, and now as
a tireless advocate for non-tertiary  Butanol as a viable biomass
alternative to gasoline.

	 I believe that I am doing David Ramey a service, as a
detached and independent advocate.

Nobody likes a shameless self-promoter.

I get the feeling that David Ramey is admirably reluctant to promote
his own successes, and that could be holding back the full, and
widespread understanding of how important his work really is.

I would urge everyone, to jump onto David Ramey's Bandwagon, and
begin to explore how you can make your own biomass gasoline
replacement now!

You already are making a difference with your interest in BioDiesel.

Now you have an opportunity to help to liberate the 95%, or more, of
the people who are not now driving diesel powered vehicles!

The historical reason that the traditional biomass fermentation
Butanol production process was abandoned, was that, when the US CIA,
installed the Shah of Iran, in the early 1950's, oil prices got so
cheap that petroleum feed-stocks simply displaced, and thus
eventually replaced biomass Butanol production, for politically-
skewed economic reasons.
We ineptly destroyed some of our own valuable industries by altering
the world's oil economies, by simply installing a hand-picked
dictator.

That was hardly a shining example, of free-market economics.

The petroleum based version of Butanol is way different, with a large
portion of  Tert-Butanol (which does not ever even get produced by
biomass fermentation processes)!

The petroleum based Tert –Butanol isomer freezes easily (at room
temperature) and does not give good low temperature performance when
used as a gasoline fuel replacement.
So great care must be used when comparing petroleum-based Butanol's
characteristics to biomass fermentation-based Butanol, since that
fermentation lacks the needed enzymes and thus produces no Tert-
Butanol!

Modern texts now just assume low-grade petroleum-based Tert-Butanol
is in the mixture of Butanol isomers.

No matter, cheap petroleum based gasoline made the need for biomass
fuels go away…until now!

To see how old this technology really is go to:

http://Butanol.com/docs/AB%20Revisited.pdf
http://Butanol.com/docs/SciAm_7-27.doc



Two subjects almost merged in the last few discussions
on "wastewatts@yahoogroups.com, in March of 2006, but then failed to
quite congeal and converge.

They are "can rancid oil still be used to make BioDiesel fuel?,"
and  "is the fuel heating content of Ethanol equivalent to gasoline?"

I just cannot bear to let this discussion come so close, but then
diverge, because THIS STUFF is really important!

Speaking of "hot Flashes," here's one for you:

The very small carboxylic acids have a sharp odor. (Formic acid has
an odor that is even sharper than acetic acid.) By the time the
hydrocarbon chain has grown to a total of four carbon atoms, the odor
of these compounds has taken a significant turn for the worse.
(Butyric acid is the source of the characteristic odor of rancid
butter or spoiled meat.) (Get it Butyric acid ….Butter…. indeed the
very name!)
As the length of the hydrocarbon chain in the carbolic acids
increases further, the odor of the acid changes once again  this
time, becoming more pleasant
	 Rancidity is caused by the bacteria Clostridium
tyrobutyricum, the anaerobe that has for centuries, caused spoiled
cheese, and even occasionally causes Blow-Outs" in cheese wheels!,
You can feed that rancidity, which is really the smell of butyric
acid, the waste product of Clostridium tyrobutyricum  to an entirely
different bacteria as it's food!
That bacteria is bacterium Clostridium acetobutylicum, which has been
used for over a century to make acetone, an ingredient used to make
TNT and paints!
By first fermenting biomass with one bacteria to make bio-butyric
acid, and then feeding the bio-butyric acid to Clostdidium
Acetobuylticum youcan also get Biogasoline as an end product!
That is a natural process that has gone on for millions of years!
It is in the "prior art."
The butyric acid waste eventually builds up and  kills off the
Clostridium tyrobutyricum unless it gets removed somehow.
If it is somehow efficiently extracted and then fed to the second
anaerobe, then the process continues until the second  anaerobe is
becoming poisoned by acidic Ethanol and acetone metabolites.
  BUT THEN a truly amazing thing happens!.
  TO PROTECT ITSELF FROM ACIDIC DEMISE,  Clostridium acetobutylicum
actually ALTERS ITS VERY METABOLISM and raises the acidic broth PH!
Yes, to save itself from oblivion, the second anaerobe CHANGES its
metabolism completely and begins to produce Butanol or "Biogasoline"
If that Biogasoline Butanol is then also somehow extracted as fast as
it is produced, then Biogasoline production remains unimpeded by a
build-up of Butanol. This allows,  the Clostridium acetobutylicum to
continue to make more Biogasoline as long as  new butyric acid is fed
to the metabolically altered Clostridium acetoutyliceum anaerobic
bacteria..
So if you just keep feeding your various anaerobes, and automatically
remove theirwaste products, then they just keep making you
Biogasoline as you go about your daily business!
So, what constitutes an inexpensive anaerobe chow?
Recall the free French Fry grease behind the McDonalds that is the
folksy-lore underpinning of BioDiesel cottage-industry movement?
Well, here is the Biogasoline parallel!
Here also is where that CheeseMobile comes in!
Turns out that dry cheese whey has a value of 16-28 cents per pound
($16.00-$28.00 per hundred weight) at a cheese plant.
But it costs 18 cents or so depending on natural gas prices to dry
it. So the value to a cheese maker is as little as-2 cents a pound -
$2.00 to + $26.00 per hundred weight!
If you are willing to drive a truck with a tank of some kind, (bear
in mind that this absolutely  must be one of those Butanol Biogsoline
or cheese butter-fat BioDiesel-powered CheeseMobile trucks!) to a
cheese plant, and ask for the cheese milk, (which is the liquid left
from making cheese, that often still contains the butter-fat left
over from cheese making).
You can quite likely purchase that cheap, or even get it free,
depending on how much energy the plant uses to dry it, or how much it
pays the local sewer plant to dump it down the drain.
The butterfat-laden cheese milk can then be used to make both
BioDiesel and Biogasoline.
You just separate the butter-fat and use it to make BioDiesel.
The "defatted cheese-milk is normally dried at the cheese plant using
expensive natural gas and then sold, often at a loss as "No. 4  Dry
Whey Solids."
If you take the defatted cheese milk, you save the cheese plant the
cost of the natural gas used for whey drying prior to disposa!
Like I said…just keep on removing those waste products,  and then go
about your business…and get free Biogasoline!
  Perhaps they will give you that cheese-milk free if you just haul it
away, to make Biogasoline as the free feedstock for the Clostridium
tyrobutyricum to convert to butyric acid.
If you are lucky, they will be so delighted to get rid of the cheese-
milk that they will throw in the butterfat laden cheese milk before
de-fatting, as well, and let you have the cheese-milk without
removing the butterfat first. Then you have a mixture of future
BioDiesel and future Biogasoline.
(NOTE: Some cheese manufacturers re-use the butterfat they separate
from the cheese- milk by incorporating it into subsequent batches of
cheese. This gets rid of it, but yields inferior cheese more prone to
spoilage! Many cheese manufacturers including Kraft Foods claim to
never recycle cheese-milk butter-fat into subsequent batches of their
cheese. So beware, The issue of cheese-milk butterfat  re-use could
be a touchy subject with some less reputable cheese manufacturers.
This is especially true if they are asserting to dairy milk source
providers that they do not re-use the cheese-milk butterfat [for
financial milk-fat supplier pricing credits reasons] when in fact,
they really do re-use the cheese-milk butter-fat )
When you feed defatted (cooled and the butterfat skimmed off) cheese
milk (in other words, liquid whey solution) to Clostridium
tyrobutyricum, the anaerobe thinks it is seventh heaven!
To Clostridium tyrobutyricum, liquid  cheese whey broth, at a human's
body temperatures is absolutely the perfect food.
At 98.6 degrees F optimum temperature under anaerobic conditions,
Clostridium tyrobutyricum proceeds to efficiently churn cheese milk
into butyric acid.
If the butter fat comes with the cheese milk, you simply cool it to
make the fat solid, and then strain the fat out of the cheese-milk.
then use the butterfat thawed to make BioDiesel as usual.
The butterfat absolutely needs to be removed in any event because it
will poison the Biogasoline fermentation process for making butyric
acid, which neither needs nor wants any fats!
So there is a very natural, and very symbiotic synergy, between the
fat craving BioDiesel process and the fat-shunning Biogasoline
aerobic fermentation process.
 	 The synergy between cottage industry biodisel production and
cottage industry Biogasoline production becomes even more profound
when you realize what a great minor ingredient additive the
fermentation-produced Butalol  isomers are, for lowering the useful
operating temperature range for BioDiesel..
Unlike petroleum based Butanol isomers, fermentative Butanol isomers
always keep the BioDiesel thiner at lower temperatures without
severely lowering the lubricity as the lighter Ethanol  or mEthanol
will.
In fact, Butanol can replace some or all of the methyl alcohol
normally used in the trans-esterification process for making
BioDiesel. Chemically, BioDiesel comprises a mix of mono-alkyl-esters
of long chain fatty acids
The most common form of BioDiesel uses metanol to produce mono-methyl
esters as it is the cheapest alcohol available, though Ethanol can be
used to produce a mono ethyl-ester BioDiesel and higher alcohols such
as isopropanol and Butanol have also been used. Using alcohols of
higher molecular weights improves the cold flow properties of the
resulting ester, (at the cost of a less efficient transesterification
reaction).
So some fraction of BioDiesel made with mono-Butyl esters can be
added improve the cold flow characterisics of any BioDiesel fuels
made with either mEthanol or Ethanol for cold weather usage!
The two processes, BioDiesel and Biogasoline, share common biomass
feed-stocks, but always use the opposite fractions!
This holds true for corn, soybeans oil-palm fruit, ginko-fruit (which
like cheese milk is a rich feedstock for Biogasoline), canola seed,
sunflower seed,algae, or any other vegetable oil producing crop as
well as for animal by-product feed-stocks like cheese-milk.
In every case the oils go to BioDiesel and the left over mash or
water-soluble fraction goes to Biogasoline fermentation.
Additional water must usually be added to most vegetable or fruit
mashes, and in some cases to cheese milk; certainly to No 4 dry
cheese whey.
That means some of that that added water is actually being converted
to biofuels  in the fermentation process!
The Biogasoline fermentation will be poisoned by too much Butanol.
To  prevent this, excessive Butanol Biogasoline fuel buildup in the
fermentation mash, the Butanol must be some how, continuously removed
from the dilute water-based fermenttion broth and concentrated
elsewhere.
Much of the innovation required for producing Butanol as a
Biogasoline fuel is centered around how to do he extracting, and
concentration of the Butanol without using the brute force and energy
intensive traditional methods involving pure distillation.
Pure distillation alone simply requires too much fuel for heating and
boiling off the fermentation process water.
Far too much added energy is needed to boil off all that fermentation
process water just to concentrate the Butanol.
That gives rise to a real danger that there could be a net energy
loss, in that more energy is required to produce the fuel than the
fuel contains.
In fact almost all the so-called studies I have ever seen (generally
paid for and promoted and distriuted by paid oil company spokesmen)
just assume that all the biofuel's concentration and refining would
be done with extremely wasteful brute force distillation…just like an
oil company would do. Then the so called study goes on to claim that
all biomass fuels MUST be produced with a net energy loss!
To avoid this pitfall, we must become quite clever and use low energy
concentration methods until we have concentrated enough of a  higher
concentration of Butanol to allow some small amount to final product
drying by distillation, without needing too boil away much water at
all!
This can be accomplished by concentrating  the Butanol in an
adsorbent material like activated carbon, zeolites,  or molecular
sieve, or diatomaceous earth.
By simple absorption and concentration, much wasted distillation
energy use can be avoided!
Alternatively or in tandem with adsorption, a process called
pervaporation can be employed. This uses the fact that water is a
highly polar (ionic electrically charged) molecule while Butanol is
not polar.
Ever noticed how a polypropylene rope never really gets wet?
Water never even wets polypropylene, and instead, it just beads up…
and rolls right off it!
The reason is simple!
  Polypropylene  on a molecular level, is hydrophobic.
No, it does not have rabies!
By using a special hydrophobic(water-hating) membrane made of treated
polypropylene, we can allow the butranol to pass right through the
thin semi-permeable membrane , along with acetone, Ethanol and
hydrogen gas and other non-polar while the hygrophobic membrane
refuses to let the water from leave the fermentation bio-reactor.
By simply co-concentrating the non-polar fermentation waste products,
we can just leave the water-soluble mash components behind.
This separation  method is called pervaporation, because it combines
evaporation and permeation in a single low-energy process that avoids
the high energy input needed for  wasteful thermal distillation
If we can do this, then we can greatly ease the input energy needed
to separate them from the fermentation process water. This nearly
avoids the water distillation all together.
(Are you still paying attention, BioDieselers?
Pervaporation can also be used to efficiently extract moisture from
finished, washed  BioDiesel without using long (several weeks) drying
cycles or high energy consumption!
Pervaporation could also be used  in the BioDiesel process for excess
mEthanol or Ethanol recovery or impurity removal, without needing to
resort to heating the oil or glycerin by-product to a very high
temperature! It could also be used to remove the propylene glycol
fraction when converting the glycerin by-product to salable
antifreeze or for purifying and clarifying the glycerin to increase
the resale value )
Additional pervaporaton membranes can then be used to remove and
separate the pure hydrogen , and the liquid acetone and Ethanol from
each other to get separate. and pure Butanol, Ethanol, and acetone
(which is really "ethyl acetyl ketone"). Additional low energy
refining steps can then be employed to convert acetone back into
Ethanol by reacting the hydrogen gas with the acetone in a specially
designed fuel cell to make electricity and Ethanol from the hydrogen
and acetone fuels.
Finally, the newly-made fuel cell Ethanol and the previously
fermented Ethanol then be combined  and then can be catalytically and
molecularly stitched together by self-condensation, and made into
additional Butanol biogasolene.
So the ultimate result of the low energy post-fermentation refining
process  is (by combining, reacting and reforming  the various
fermentation process waste by-products)
1) The production of up to 100% pure biomass Butanol
Biogasoline,
2) The safe, immediate  disposal of the hydrogen reactor process
gas, without any need to store the hydrogen,
3) by immediate conversion to electricity the generation of some
electrical energy equivalent to about 80% of the heat content of the
hydrogen gas produced in the fermentation  processes, (a very useful
commodity frequently used to turn electric meters backwards for a
profit!)
4)  as well as some thermal waste heat that can be fed back into
the fermentation reactor to maintain the 98.6 degrees F process heat
needed to optimize the fermentation process reactor.
5) Near zero or up to a lesser and controllable amount of
acetone and/or Ethanol for solvent or fuel additive usage.
So it should be clear by now that the BioDiesel and Biogasoline
production methods are mutually synergistic.
Since they share such common complementary  feed-stock fractions, the
development of energy-efficient small scale manufacturing processes
and methodologies, could become richly rewarding and liberating to
many individuals by allowing them to create a viable biomass
alternative energy transportations fuels  technology that could be
integrated into personal energy independence strategy.
Other alternative energy sources such as wind and solar which are
inherently intermittent in nature, could be used to drive and
maintain both Biogasoline and BioDiesel biomass refining processes on
an as energy becomes available basis.
Meanwhile, the constant self-sustaining of the operation of the
biogas fermentation reactors could produce sufficient and steady-
state hydrogen production to allow the maintenance of process heat to
allow continuous fermentation process and vessel-heating to allow
those processes to continue around-the-clock even at night and on
windless days.
The actual energy intensive refining and minimal distillation
portions could then be done on an "as the wind blows" and "as the sun
shines" basis.
Mutual alternative energy resource and process energy synergy between
small scale BioDiesel and Biogassoline production could thereby be
achieved as well!





  Wikipedia
Butanol
Butanol is a higher alcohol with a 4 carbon atom structure and a
general formula of C4H10O. There are 4 different isomeric structures
for Butanol:
butan-1-ol         CH3-CH2-CH2-CH2-OH
(also n-Butanol)

butan-2-ol         CH3-CH2-CH(OH)-CH3
(also sec-Butanol)

isobutyl alcohol        CH3-CH-CH3
                             |
                             CH2OH

                             OH
                             |
tert-butyl alcohol      CH3-C-CH3
(also t-Butanol)            |
                             CH3
These Butanol isomers, due to their different structures, have
somewhat different melting and boiling points. All are moderately
miscible in water, less so than Ethanol, and more so than the higher
(longer carbon chain) alcohols. Like most alcohols, Butanol is
poisonous.
Uses
Butanol sees use as a solvent for a wide variety of chemical and
textile processes, as a paint thinner, as well as a component of
hydraulic and brake fluids. It is also used as a base for perfumes,
but on its own has a highly alcoholic aroma.
Butanol may also be used as a direct fuel in any standard internal
combustion engine engineered for gasoline usage (such as a modern
automobile). Butanol is reported to yield 36,000 kJ/kg (15,500
BTU/lb) when burned. This can be expressed volumetrically as 29,200
kJ/l (104,800 BTU/US gal).
Production
Butanol can be produced by fermentation of biomass with the bacterium
Clostridium acetobutylicum, also known as the Weizmann organism, as
it was Chaim Weizmann who first used this bacteria for the production
of acetone from starch to make TNT in 1916. The Butanol was a side
effect of this fermentation (twice as much Butanol was produced). The
process also creates a recoverable amount of H2.
Most Butanol consumed in the United States is currently produced
commercially by derivative from fossil fuels. However, a recent
advance in fermentation tecniques may change the feedstock of Butanol
in America from petrochemical to biomass in the coming years. David
Ramey of Ohio and his company, Environmental Energy, inc. have
developed a two stage fermentation process.
In this process, biomass feedstock is first fed to the bacteria
Clostridium tyrobutyricum, where a large percentage is converted into
butyric acid and hydrogen. In the second process, the butyric acid is
fed to the bacteria Clostridium acetobutylicum, where it is converted
into Butanol. Ramey has claimed a 42% Butanol yield from this process.
Comparatively, in Ramey's process, a bushel of corn (maize) produces
2.5 US gallons (370 l/Mg), as opposed to 1.3 US gallons per bushel
(190 l/Mg)in a traditional fermentive process. At 2.5 US gallons per
bushel, Ramey's anaerobic fermentation process produces a comparable
volume of Butanol as compared to the same volume of Ethanol produced
from a bushel of corn in the traditional fermentative process.
END OF WIKIPEDIA
Think of it like little anaerobes, hard at work for you, day in and
day out just stitching two Ethanol molecules into one giant, more
powerful Butanol molecule.
Biogasoline is a mixture of the three of Butanol's fopur common
isomers shown above. Luckily, the bacteria do not produce the Tert-
Butanol because its molectular structure is foreigh n to their enzyme
activities. That a good thing too, since the melting point of Tert-
Butanol is too high for cold weather driving.
BUTANOL'S ISOMERS
ISOMER         BP DRY POINT     FREEZING POINT
1 BUTANOL        PB 118.0 °C  DP  118.0 °C                Freezing
point      -89 °C
2-BUTANOL    BP  98.5 °C  DP   100.5 °C                Freezing
point   –115 °C
TERT-BUTANOL  BP  81.5°C   DP    83.0°C                 Freezing
point    + 25 °C
ISO-BUTANOL  BP 107.9°C  DP   107.9°C                 Freezing
point     -108°C


Butanol has a calorific value (heating value) higher than Ethanol,
which makes it a superior fuel. A gallon of Ethanol contains 84,800
BTU's, a gallon of gasoline contains 115,000 BTU"s, and a gallon od
mixed 1-Butanol,, 2-Butanol, and Iso-Butanol contains 104,500 BTU's.
However the Butanol burns far more completely and produces far less
CO or  unburned hydrocarbons than gasoline does, thus producing less
smog and equivalent power!
Most autos are designed for a lean burn to control emissions.
Gasoline is a highly variable product, that contains differing
amounts of the various  alkynes, and aromatic hydrocarbons known
as "petroleum distillates" at different times of the year.
For a very lean burn, an internal combustion engine running on
gasoline may need as much as 15 times as much air as fuel for the
oxygen sensor to read a complete optimum  burn for minimal air
pollution.
For some really high quality and very clean burning gasolines, the
clean fuel burn could require as a stoichiometric burn mixture of as
little as 12 times as much air as gasoline.
Butanol, Biogasoline has nearly the equivalent of gasoline's energy
content in terms of heat value (Butanol is a VERY CONSISTANT 104,000
BTU's per gallon heat value,  compared to gasoline's 115,000BTU's per
gallon AVERAGE heat value ie: could be 100,000-130,000btu's per
gallon)
Gasoline is far more volatile and thus evaporates almost as fast as
mEthanol with its high  Reid vapor pressure of  4.5. that means
gasoline often looses a lot of its heating value just sitting in the
gas tank! So it is certainly not uncommon to have gasoline with less
heating value than Butanol sitting in the tank.
Gas powered fuel injected vehicles must be designed to compensate for
such older gasoline they do so by allowing the air mixture to be
richer for older gas. With older gas in the tank, air-to-gas ratio
may drop below 10 units of gas for each unit of fuel. The oxygen
sensor and computer  detects the amount of extra gas needed to get
the desired RPMS and power curve and simply adjusts the mixture
accordingly, to burn ff the older gas.
So the gasoline fuel-injected vehicle is already designed to allow
operation at less that 10 part of air to one part of fuel, when lower
heating value fuel exists!
Since Butanol contains none of the aromatic hydrocarbons that require
the burning of at least six units of carbon per molecule, less air is
required for a cleaner burn than even the cleanest available gasoline
mixture!
Yet the heat content of Butanol Biogasoline  is very nearly the same
per gallon as for gasoline.
So Butanol Biogasoline, when burned just a little richer than
gasoline's low end air mixture range (of 12 units of air per unit
fuel ) actually burns much cleaner and "leaner" than gasoline ever
can.
With a stoichiometric optimum ratio of 11.1 parts of air per one part
of biomass produced Butanol Biogasoline, the mixture is only slightly
richer than with petroleum gasoline.
The richer mixture means extra power, and that  means you can
throttle back and get both better mileage and better performance from
a constant, and unchanging, and cleaner burn at a mixture ratio well
within the design range for the vehicle's computer and fuel injection
system..
There is far less mixture variation due to the complete lack of fuel
composition variations, with the seasons,  or with refinery petroleum
feed-stocks because biomass based Butanol Biogasoline burns so clean,
all year-round that there is no need to reformulate the Biogasoline
on a seasonal basis as is routinely done for dirty petroleum based
gasoline mixtures.

Butanol is also much less corrosive on metal parts, and unlike
Ethanol,can be distributed through existing pipelines. Butanol can be
used as a direct one-to-one replacement for gasoline with no
modifications to your car today.
At last a true Biogasoline that directly replaces  gasoline, has
equivalent energy content, and runs cleaner in your car with far less
smog, CO but better octane and equivalent pep!
With Best regards,
FREE ENERGY
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( 1 )    "LESSONS LEARNED"
1973-1984
Solarex Corporation is formed (1973)
In 1974 Dr. Lindmeyer & Dr. Varadi founded Solarex Corporation 1st
terrestrial PV company
Solarex constructs the Frederick, MD, USA manufacturing plant (1982) -
  still one of the largest installations of Building-Integrated
Photovoltaics in the world

In 1982, Solarex Corporation made a most significant commitment to PV-
in-Buildings by powering their new manufacturing plant with their own
solar modules. The facility, located in Frederick, MD, was designed
specifically to receive a 200 KW Photovoltaic  array as the entire
south roof. A large bank of storage batteries provides a UPS
capability for critical plant systems. The `Solarex Breeder', as the
plant became known, was the vision of Solarex founder Joseph
Lindemeyer.

Chip Mefford wrote at 09:23 AM 05/09/2005:

>~  How "green" are PVs?
>
>
>years ago, I was cruising through Fredrick Maryland when I saw this
>really really strange building going up. "Wuzzat?" I asked my
travelling
>companion. "Izza Solar Breeder" He said. "Wuzzat?" I asked
redundantly,
>"dunno" was the response.
>
>So we stopped and asked.
>
>~  Fellow on the job site said that the outfit called Solarex was
>building this building to be off-the-grid and powered up to build
>PV stuff, using PV power. Very cool, we thought.
>
>So, with that question answered, the question that has dogged me
>through the decades since has been. How green are PVs anyway?

PERPETUAL SOLAR: Solarex, a large photovoltaics company, has broken
ground for the world's first "solar breeder" in Frederick, Maryland.
The sun-powered facility will produce 200 kilowatts of electricity,
an amount sufficient to support a plant manufacturing photovoltaic
cells. Solarex claims the building will be the first large, self-
supported solar energy industrial site.


Solarex initiates Polycrystalline process (1983)

Amoco Oil Company purchases Solarex Corporation (1983)

Solarex purchases Exxon's Solar Power Corporation (1984)

1984-1995
· Solarex initiates Total Quality Management
· Solarex polycrystalline business becomes profitable (1994)
· Solarex introduces the "Mega" cell: 114 mm x 114 mm in 1987.
Results in a 30% increase in solar efficiency from the previous
industry standard of 100 mm x 100 mm
· Solarex initiates international distribution network
· Solarex becomes a business unit of Amoco/Enron Solar, a
partnership of Amoco Oil Corporation and Enron Corporation (1995)
1996-1999
· BP expands manufacturing capacity for 'Laser Grooved
Monocrystalline' line of solar modules
· BP introduces Plug in the Sun - an initiative to equip BP
gas/petrol stations around the world with solar systems
1999-present
· Plant expansion projected to increase capacity twofold to
around 200MW by 2006.
· BP Solar exits thin film technology to better focus on core
markets and current technologies
· BP Solar is integrated into BP's Gas, Power and Renewables
Business Stream (2001)
· BP Solarex changes name to BP Solar
· BP purchases Enrons remaining sharesin solarex
corporation,and BP Solar and Solarex merge to form BP Solarex
Solar Slump: How BP Amoco Bought Solarex and Betrayed the World's
Largest Solar Company
As part of its merger with Amoco, BP acquired half of Solarex, the
world's largest solar company.

Enron owned the remainder!

In 1999, BP Amoco bought Enron's half of Solarex and merged Solarex
with BP Solar. BP Amoco has made a big deal about its commitment to
solar power. But how strong is that commitment really? Here are some
basic facts.

BP Solarex's expansion rate ranks lowest of the top 6 PV
manufacturers in 1999 (Independent analyst , P. Maycock, 2000).

· For every $10,000 BP spent on oil exploration and development
in 1998, $16 was spent on solar energy. After the merger with Amoco,
the combined investment in solar dropped proportionally to only 0.01
percent of its over-all budget.
· BP Amoco bought-out Enron's half of the U.S. solar company
Solarex  in 1999 for about $45 million and trumpeted this as a major
investment in solar energy. In fact, however, BP Amoco is proposing
to spend about 588 times more for ARCO - or about $26.8 billion. The
legal fees alone that BP has incurred for the proposed ARCO merger so
far are already more than double what it paid for Solarex.
· After BP Amoco announced it was seeking a merger with ARCO,
the company also stated that it would spend another $5 billion on oil
exploration and development in Alaska alone.
· Far from increasing Solarex production rapidly as BP claims,
Solarex ranked dead last among the top six solar companies in 1999
production expansion. Both Kyocera and Sharp are likely to surpass
Solarex in actual production in 2000.
· After several years of "milking" Virginia's 5 million dollar
per year Solar Manufacturer's tax credit at a small Toano, VA Solar
Cell plant, that produced just enough cells to collect the yearly tax
credit, Solarex Corporation closed the plant and left town!
·  At this rate, BP will have slipped down to being only the
5th largest manufacturer by the end of 2002
· While BP solar still manufactures some solar cells, the
various oil and energy companies that killed the worlds first and
only solar cell breeder plant, have seen to the demise of  the
creators vision; of self-replicating solar cell manufacturing plants,
breeding more, multiple, breeder plants, growing geometrically in
production capacity with no further need EVER, for fossil fuels! That
dream was squelched and never realized. That technology was instead,
just suppressed, by big oil!
· Big oil continues to ignore solar cell breeder plants, and
meanwhile pays  PR spokesmen to falsely assert, that "it takes more
fossil fuel energy to make a solar cell than it will ever produce in
its lifetime", making the solar cell to seem to be, a net energy
looser, in the minds of the duped public. Meanwhile the oil companies
are never mentioning the active ongoing suppression of the solar
breeder plants by the oil companies themselves!

With Best regards
FREE ENERGY
Patrick Ward
Richmond VA
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#15374 From: "Leslie R. Pastor" <lrpastor@...>
Date: Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:38 am
Subject: As I View It:
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One of the most important discoveries of my life occurred when I stumbled upon
Dr. Antony C. Sutton's monumental works from the Hoover Institution.  His three
volume exposé regarding the deliberate transfer of western technology to the
newly created Soviet Union.  This was accomplished by, the newly created Federal
Reserve System, having been, established just four years prior.  With the
passage of the Federal Reserve Act http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/timeline3.htm
the mechanism for 'revolution' was created and key members of the Russell Trust
assumed significant roles in bringing about the actual Russian Revolution.

Dr. Sutton elaborates about this in his book
http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-fdr-ch11.html about Franklin Delano
Roosevelt.  Dr. Sutton's account
http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-bolshevik-ch11.html regarding the
participation of the Federal Reserve in the establishment of the fledgling
Soviet Union is breathtaking.  The people of the United States were forced to
participate in the creation of the establishment of a future enemy of their
republic.  They were forced to finance the destruction of the Romanov Empire as
well as the enslavement of over 100 million Russian people.  The Federal Reserve
played a crucial diplomatic and financial role in
http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-bolshevik-ch1.html establishing the ultimate
in 'communist' hegemony.  Why?  Was the ultimate question.  Why did the United
States do this?  This is why Antony C. Sutton spent the rest of his life
deciphering the rapacious enigma that catapulted him from the Hoover
Institution, and caused the FBI to conduct their own investigation regarding
these developments.  Dr. Sutton provided a rare glimpse into his mindset and
intent regarding his research, when he submitted to a rare interview with Dr.
Stan Monteith  http://www.robodoon.com/new_page_1.htm .

The role of the Federal Reserve is of significant importance, primarily because
it is the originator of the ultimate currency of the global community.  It is
virtually backed up by nothing of value, and yet it controls the resources of
the entire planet.  It is not subject to oversight except by the board members
of the Federal Reserve System.  And its policies govern the exchange rates and
commodities of every global market of value and trade.

Eustace Mullins gave an excellent exposé of the Federal Reserve System, as a
source of control, in his monumental http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
account of the true intent of the creators of the Federal Reserve System.  His
revelation regarding the collaborative intervention of the other worldwide
central banks provided an interesting interlock regarding the Federal Reserve,
the Bank of England and the Bank for International Settlements.  It appears that
'Bankers' have set the 'political' agenda for the entire planet since their
inception from the late 1800's to the present.  In brief, bankers, are a hazard
to both laissez-faire policies as well as economics.  They appear to have a
hidden agenda independent of supranational governments.  An agenda, I might add,
that is not at all coherent with the intent of most Americans or Europeans who
lend their savings and checkbooks and in most cases their credit histories to
the banking fraternity that oversees the financial fabric of the international
community of nations.

Under the guise of the American Red Cross, key directors of the Federal Reserve
System

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=Bolshevik05
entered Russia to make of it a captive technical colony, keeping it under the
thumb of some of Wall Street's favored businessmen and their associates.  Antony
C. Sutton's goal was to expose http://www.maxexchange.com/ybj/chapter11.htm the
reason for this by first [exhaustively] examining the actual extent of the
technology transfers from the West to the newly created Soviet government, and
then to examine the key individuals and groups who, were responsible for those
transfers.  Without these technology transfers, Soviet Russia would never have
survived, and could not have continued with their domination of Eastern Europe
and other key strategic influences.  Antony C. Sutton succeeded in discovering
why all of this was accomplished, and wrote about it extensively in his
published works regarding Wall Street, ultimately discovering that it was the
joint effort of the Russell Trust Association and key elements of the banking
fraternity that were responsible not only for the technological transfers, but
for maintaining and sustaining 'communist' influence worldwide.

During my academic years, while still attending Seton Hall University, I was fed
the standard rhetoric regarding revolutions and how such revolutions originate. 
But because of my voracious appetite to know the truth regarding the intent and
the actual intervention of revolutionaries, who, were being funded by bankers, I
quickly discovered the relevant historical documents pertaining to the
conspiratorial collaboration between revolutionaries and dictatorships.  I
followed Dr. Antony C. Sutton regarding this subject-matter for the rest of my
life, continuing my own research efforts at key Universities, causing, me to
provide my own documentation and thus an actual 'verification' of Sutton's
monumental discoveries.  I contacted him in 1999 first via emails and then over
the phone, after first listening to his voice [from a tape] at the Regent
University Library in Virginia Beach, Virginia.  He and I discussed the
possibility of him 'teaching' at Regent.  I even asked him for permission to
'copy' one of his books, 'Technological Treason' to be given to the library at
Regent, which he agreed to.  But when I queried the [then] librarian via email
regarding Dr. Sutton's potential 'gift,' I was rebuffed.  The librarian [at that
time] did not believe my query regarding the gifting of Dr. Sutton's book.  This
was a complete shock to me, for I considered it a significant insult, especially
since I had contributed a considerable amount of my hard earned money, into
helping to establish Regent University and its significant library.  Dr. Antony
C. Sutton had refused appointments to teach at several key California
universities, but was willing at my suggestion to entertain the possibility of
accepting a teaching assignment at Regent University in Virginia Beach.  Indeed,
it was Carl Hiteshew, who introduced me to Herb Titus, who was then the academic
Dean of the School of Law at Regent.  Both Dr. Titus and I sat down in his
office, where I explained my personal research verifying Antony C. Sutton's
monumental research, shortly thereafter several copies of Dr. Sutton's books
were ordered for the University Library.  Upon showing Dr. Sutton the emails
that I received from Regent questioning my proposal regarding the gifting of a
copy of his book, and subsequently, his response, indicated that he too
experienced significant 'subterfuge' during  his former academic teaching
career.

I suppose the question you are asking, is why I've brought all this to your
attention.  It is because the Russell Trust and their associates have continued
in their endeavors to provide the continuation of their Hegelian agenda.  They
have progressed into making China a modern version of their 'vision' of the
perfect 'government of control.'  And again they are using the people and the
technology of the 'corporations' of the United States to fulfill their goals
once again.  And they are succeeding unabated and on schedule to enslave the
entire planet.  In the past, the Russell Trust used the actual engraved printing
plates from the Treasury Department, they gave these to the Russian 'communists'
enabling them to print up as many 'dollars' as were necessary to purchase all of
the technologies that were necessary to effectively compete and ultimately
surpass the United States.  Today in modern China, they have given the Chinese
government, the actual 'credit' of the United States enabling them to finance
their 'novelty' state 'free of charge' practically bankrupting the American
people, while the Americans are being looted wholesale of their resources and
their 'corporate' companies, leaving us ultimately destitute and paupers within
our own borders.  At the same time a police state is being established within
the United States under the guise of Homeland Security as a result of an alleged
attack within our own borders.  If one does their due diligence, examining the
available documentation regarding the 911 incident in New York in 2001, they
will discover significant 'anomalous' activity that cannot be explained away so
easily.  The reason why a closer look is so important is because this is what
got us into Iraq in the first place.  The American people were so incensed about
the attacks on the Twin Towers in NYC that their response was to retaliate with
swift justice against the alleged attackers.  And rightfully so!  But who were
the actual attackers? We need the real story backed up by FACTS.



[As I View It]



Leslie R. Pastor

New Energy Congress

http://www.peswiki.com/energy/New_Energy_Congress


PS: Dr. Antony C. Sutton and I were supposed to begin research on certain
aspects of Nikola Tesla's Resource Data at the National Archives [Suitland] this
year, but unfortunately, he passed away on June 17, 2002.


Recently Dr. Martin Fleischmann and Dr. Russ George agreed to work together to
create the first home heating systems based on 'cold fusion.'
http://www.d2fusion.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=57





Research:

Antony C. Sutton: His Discovery of the Anomaly

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nuenergy/message/15274

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyingSaucerMachine/message/483

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Educate-Yourself_Forum/message/23419

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/energy2000/message/26418

The Skolnick Report

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/bigsec.html

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=114&contentid=539&page=2

Antony C. Sutton [Interview]
http://www.freedomdomain.com/secretsocieties/suttoninterview.html

http://www.rense.com/politics6/SKULL.htm

Antony C. Sutton [Video: Interview]

http://www.robodoon.com/new_page_1.htm

General Electric Funded Hitler

http://www.rense.com/general57/ge.htm

On-line books: by Antony C. Sutton  [Three variants of 'socialism' created by
bankers and the Russell Trust Association and their 'revolutionary' associate
companions].

Wall Street and FDR

http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-fdr.html

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=BolshevikRev

The Best Enemy Money Can Buy

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/best_enemy/

America's Secret Establishment [Antony C. Sutton's magnum opus]

http://www.ctrl.org/ase/sales/about.html

My Fellow American by Gary North

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north340.html

The World Order by Eustace Mullins

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=WorldCh02

The Historical Documentation Regarding Jewish Influence:  Germany & Russia

http://library.flawlesslogic.com/treason_5.htm

http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/slezkine.html

Ezra Pound

http://library.flawlesslogic.com/pound.htm

Skull & Bones fostered Russian Communism by G. Richard Arnold

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/3/commiebones.htm

Presidential Accomplishments

http://apusnotes.nfshost.com/timeline/presidents2

America's Great Depression

http://www.amatecon.com/gd/gdtimeline.html

Video Online: What is the New World Order?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2357448098911229950



Reference:

http://www.constitution.org/mil/cmt/brinkerhoff_nov01.htm

http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/doom/278/abolishprez.html

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/pages/materials.html

Law & Anti-Law: From Constitution to Emergency Law

http://www.constitution.org/mil/lawnanti.htm

Western Technology & Soviet Economic Development [Antony C. Sutton]

http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/sutton.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0817919015/102-8915503-0637723?v=glance&n=28315\
5

Impact of Technology Transfer on Military Balance

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1984/nov-dec/benson.ht\
ml

Book Review: Western Technology & Soviet Economic Development

http://www.jbs.org/artman/publish/article_212.shtml

Book Review: The Best Enemy Money Can Buy

http://www.jbs.org/artman/publish/article_215.shtml

The Communist-Capitalist Alliance by Harold Pease Ph.D.,

http://autarchic.tripod.com/files/alliance.html

My Personal Research:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/anthonycsutton13may02.shtml

The Hegelian Agenda

http://nord.twu.net/acl/dialectic.html#two

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2002/proctor/hegelian_dialectic.htm

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=57684

Stranger Than Fiction: An Independent Investigation of 911 [Albert D. Pastore]

http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm

  http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/stf1.html

Attack On America

http://users.bigpond.net.au/trt/attackonamerica.htm

Death by Government [ R. J. Rummel ]

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

http://www.bigeye.com/rummel.htm

The Avalon Project [Yale University]

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/avalon.htm

The American Constitution: A Documentary Record

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/constpap.htm

Regent University

http://www.regent.edu/

Seton Hall University

http://www.shu.edu/

#15375 From: "Leslie R. Pastor" <lrpastor@...>
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:04 pm
Subject: The NEC is attempting to make a difference - And it Shows
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Members of the New Energy Congress are taking a serious effort to a make a
difference in Energy Development. Information is the most important ingredient
with respect to gathering data on known energy alternatives other than BIG OIL.
With prices of fuel oil and gasoline climbing into the stratosphere and
literally draining the financial reserves of most Americans, people are
beginning to wonder why BIG GOVERNMENT has remained 'intransigent' with respect
to alternative sources of motive power. State, local and Federal taxes ARE a
significant 'cost' of purchasing fuel for our vehicles. But these agencies have
done absolutely NOTHING to provide for alternative energy 'methodologies.' We
wonder where their 'vested' interest truly lies? Are they a government of the
people, for the people, by the people or do they really represent SPECIAL
INTERESTS hidden from the public perspective?

Both Presidential candidates came from the same 'secret society,'  The Russell
Trust Association, and according to them, it was so secret, that they could not
reveal anything about it publicly. In short, the election was already rigged to
guaranty that the RTA would come to 'power,' short circuiting the electoral
process within the United States of America. Secret Societies should be
INVESTIGATED thoroughly by the people. Do they have a hidden agenda? Let's take
a good look at what they have accomplished since coming to power.

Since a member of their 'secret' organization has come to power, we have been
forced to send our sons and daughters into a foreign war, where they are
literally being slaughtered by our own WMD known as depleted uranium. Allegedly,
we are fighting an enemy, who brought down the Twin towers in NYC, but this is
already suspect by many Americans who are directly involved. We are considered
pariahs not liberators by the people of Iraq, who despise us. This is strange,
but not unusual if we are following an agenda based upon a lie.  Several
American Generals have openly complained about our involvement and about
Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld. This is very interesting, considering the
military usually present an open front of support.

Homeland Security [a police state: read the text of the law] has been stealthily
foisted upon the American people. We are supposed to be the 'inherent holders of
the political power,' but we are literally being merged into a 'one world
socialistic government,' unless you put a stop to it. Have the law repealed.
Exercise your power as one of the 'inherent holders of the political power.'

Electronic voting machines are being installed to co-opt the American voter by
stealth. Our agricultural industry is being 'terminated' by terminator seeds
that grow only one time, necessitating a continuous purchase from a 'monopoly'
supplier. Think about it! A 'seed' that does not enable itself to be replicated,
or reproduce after its own kind. [Monsanto].

We have a Federal Reserve System [our central bank] that is literally
squandering the last vestige of its 'monetary' powers. They are so brazen, that
they have decided to hide their actions by not posting M3 'fluctuations.' Could
it be that they have decided to deluge the planet with 'worthless' paper?  The
dollar use to be backed up by gold, then oil, our technologies, and finally our
military.

What on Earth is going on? Are they crazy? Hardly, they are right on schedule to
create the New Word Order. Unless of course you wake up and decide to take the
bull by the horns and not go silently and gently into the abyss that awaits us
all. Every American should take stock in what is taking place right now in our
country. They should remain calm and understand that they need to participate in
their own awareness of what is really taking place. The media is controlled by
the controllers, so you will not get any significant information from it. You
will need to think for yourselves, and make decisions on your own based upon
circumstances within your own life.

The methodology that the RTA uses is the Hegelian Dialectic, they are the
originators of 'managed and controlled conflict.' In essence they create 'wars
and revolutions.' [Look at the evidence]. They believe in total and absolute
control. [Again look at the evidence]. They are preparing the planet for a very
interesting future [unless you stop them from accomplishing their agenda].

Let us take a look back in time. William Boyce Thompson was a copper magnate,
who became a Class B director of the Federal Reserve System [around 1917] he
used his position and power to sustain and approve of the Russian Revolution by
giving aid and comfort to Lenin and Trotsky.  He helped fund it!  When he
'retired' he 'endowed' a genetic research facility to study plant life. [Look at
the evidence]. Nothing that the Federal Reserve has done, has benefited your
life. They are secretly conspiring to enslave you.

They control your food, poison your water [chlorine] and dull your senses
[fluoridation]. Wake up and study the evidence. And then do something about it
constructively, lawfully, and properly. Remember you are one of the 'inherent
holders of the political power.' You can do something about it right now. If you
are an inventor having a significant invention [free energy, overunity systems]
or if you have deep pockets and are able to finance a new emerging technology
that can provide an alternative solution to our existing difficulties, now is
the time to become involved. Communicate with us at the NEW Energy Congress. We
are interested in YOU!

Do a Google search of my statements: copy and paste into Google:
http://www.google.com and see what you find. Send this email message around the
world, by copying it to other groups far and near....our future depends upon its
dissemination.


All the Best,
Leslie R. Pastor
New Energy Congress
http://newenergycongress.org
http://www.peswiki.com/energy/Free_Energy_Congress
An interesting compilation of available energy alternatives
http://www.commutefaster.com/Energy.html

#15376 From: "Ethan X" <egenauer@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:05 pm
Subject: DC "Sustainable Post-Petroleum Living & Peak Oil" - MAY 6 CONFERENCE
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"The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil"

The sudden effects of perpetual oil shortage are likely to strike within the next three years. Are we prepared? Sponsored by Culture Change, the DC "Post-Petroleum Sustainable Living" Conference will present the facts behind the hype about Peak Oil, explore the root factors of our present "oil-addicted" condition, and envision the strategies that we need to bypass unhelpful institutional barriers and achieve post-Peak Oil economic sustainability.

Experts on peak oil and the geological depletion of oil reserves, and advocates for small-scale agriculture, alternative energy and local sustainable economics will discuss "petrocollapse," the imminent failure of the petroleum infrastructure to continue to provide the myriad goods and services that our consumer economy has grown accustomed to. Multimedia presentations and multiple films will demonstrate solutions to the audience.

CONFERENCE SPEAKERS INCLUDE
Albert Bates,
Global Ecovillage Network
Diana Leafe Christian, Communities Magazine
Richard Heinberg,
Powerdown: Options and
Actions for a Post-Carbon World
Jan Lundberg, CultureChange.org & Auto-Free Times
Mark Robinowitz, Permatopia & OilEmpire.US
Michael Kane, From the Wilderness publications
Joel Salatin, PolyFace Farms
& You Can Farm
Faith Morgan & Pat Murphy, Community Solution

John Darnell, PhD Energy Advisor
Jenna Orkin, Moderator
&
World Trade Center Environmental Organization

YOU ARE INVITED TO ATTEND!

Register online via PayPal at http://petrocollapse.org

Cost is "sliding scale" up to $100. Scholarships and work exchange arrangements are available for students, activists, and others. Everyone will be accomodated, and no one turned away! Send us an email with details of your situation, and/or what time or energy you may have for volunteer activity for the conference. Send to Ethan@....

Contact conference coordinator Ethan Genauer if you have any problems registering OR for more details at : Ethan@... AND (202) 966 2202

**************************************

At The Petrocollapse Conference we will ask
 

* What are we facing now as the economy prepares
to hit the wall
known as resource limits?
Will growth suddenly implode?

* What will be the effects of Peak Oil (a geological
 phenomenon caused by depletion or exhaustion of oil reserves)
and
petrocollapse (an economic and social phenomenon)
on food supply
and other services we depend on?
* What mitigation strategies are possible?
* What is the role of the market in determining 
how severe the
effect of shortage
stemming from geological depletion will be ?

* Upon upheaval, deprivation, and a restructuring of
social relations in a "new"
local economics system,
will we choose to create a sustainable culture?


** contact conference coordinator Ethan in DC **
ethan@... (202) 966 2202

For more info, see http://petrocollapse.org AND
DC PetroCollapse press release below


**************************************

MEDIA ALERT -- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

DC Petrocollapse Conference: May 6, 2006
All Souls Church, Unitarian 16th & Harvard,
Washington, D.C


A conference on the effects of peak oil and the growing global energy crisis will take place in Washington, DC on May 6th at the All Souls Church, Unitarian from 9 A.M. to 7 P.M. Speakers include peak-oil author Richard Heinberg.

Conference organizer and speaker Jan Lundberg is a former oil industry analyst who ran the market research firm Lundberg Survey. Lundberg, who quit serving the oil industry so he could put his knowledge to use to protect the environment, says "M. King Hubbert, who developed the theory of peak oil, observed that we do not have an energy crisis but rather a culture crisis. This fits with the theme of the Washington DC Petrocollapse Conference that there is no technofix for our energy dilemma. Society will have to reclaim a closer level of community and rediscover how local economics works."

The May 6th conference will feature Richard Heinberg, the most-read peak oil author (The Party's Over, and Powerdown). Films and music will be also offered as part of a varied program to stimulate discussion and action by attendees. Heinberg and Lundberg and others will perform music including oil-satire songs. Films will include premiers of "Our Synthetic Sea" (plastics pollution in oceans) and "The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil."

Lundberg says the Petrocollapse Conference asks, "What we can do in advance of the social upheaval and chaos that may produce a 'national New Orleans,' to prepare or mitigate? What will the future look like during and after a transition to non-petroleum living?"

#######################
Background briefing for:
Petrocollapse Conference: May 6, 2006 9 A.M. - 7 P.M.
All Souls Unitarian Church - 16th & Harvard Streets, NW
Washington D.C.

The New York Times calls Peak Oil "almost certainly correct." Fortune Magazine says, "An economic tsunami is about to hit the global economy as the world runs out of oil." As oil prices soar and supplies of crude oil and refined petroleum products strain to keep up with demand, as global warming fuels out-of-control hurricanes that wreak havoc on oil production infrastructure as well as upon devastated populations, the critical issue of Peak Oil is finally becoming acknowledged in the mainstream news.

But the complete story is still suppressed, misunderstandings abound, and the public remains in the dark about the vast array of consequences due to hit from this looming "permanent energy crisis." The sudden effects of perpetual oil shortage are likely to strike within the next three years. Are we prepared? Sponsored by Culture Change, the DC PetroCollapse Conference will present the facts behind the hype about Peak Oil, explore the root factors of our present "oil-addicted" condition, and envision the strategies that we need to bypass unhelpful institutional barriers and achieve post-Peak Oil economic sustainability.

The public is also not fully aware of the extent to which oil pervades our lives not simply as fuel for transportation but also in the form of pesticides, fertilizers and plastics. A decline in oil supplies will affect our ability to grow enough food for the current global population of six and a half billion people. Malnutrition and resulting illness can be expected to spread far beyond the 3.7 billion who are currently affected into the developed world.

Our economy also depends on indefinite growth that will not be sustainable once Peak Oil hits. Its arrival is likely to have a paralyzing affect on certain sectors of the economy which will in turn spread both nationally and globally.

Most independent oil experts agree that the peak in global oil extraction is occurring approximately now. The pressures of the market to distribute the fuels and materials made from petroleum are already creating intense competition for energy supplies around the world. As the gap between supply and demand widens and prices skyrocket, supply will tighten as never before due to hoarding. This will cause massive repercussions in daily living and the global economy. Not only will people have to adapt to an energy-poor world by concentrating on sustainably working with their regional ecosystems for all their needs, but will also have to cope with climate change which is rapidly accelerating. This scenario is referred to by oil expert and conference organizer Jan Lundberg as Petrocollapse.

As the conference brochure states, "the world's peak in oil extraction is about now -- although there is uncertainty and debate. The pressures of the Market to smoothly spread around the fuels and materials made from petroleum promise to create intense competition for energy supplies, as seen already today on the world stage. As the gap between supply and demand widens and prices skyrocket, supply will tighten as never before due to hoarding. This will cause massive repercussions in daily living and the global economy. Not only will people have to adapt to an energy-poor world by concentrating on sustainably working with their regional ecosystems for all their needs, climate change is accelerating."

** contact conference coordinator Ethan in DC **
Ethan@... * (202) 966 2202


#15377 From: "Leslie R. Pastor" <lrpastor@...>
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 5:44 pm
Subject: Research More Dangerous Than You Think
richard_pastor
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Research currently is probably one of the most dangerous of jobs.  When you read my sources you will begin to recognize the reality of my statement.  Those that use to regard research as a mere hobby, are either dead, having died under mysterious and significant circumstances, or are being monitored.  There appears to be a significant and determined effort to erase UFO research as we have known it from the past and recent thirty (30) years.  Those that use to consider microbiology a safe and staid profession should consider reexamining the current events of the recent past.

 

All the Best,

Leslie R. Pastor

 

Research:

 

Deaths of Scientists, UFO Researchers, and Microbiologists,

http://www.combat-diaries.co.uk/diary25/diary25chapter1.htm

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/weekly_019_fema.html

Deaths of Microbiologists

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/deadbiologists.html

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/timeline/AAanthrax.html

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/03_Disease/030805.mysterious.deaths.html

Their Deaths Do Tell Tales

http://www.stevequayle.com/dead.scientist.news.html

Death By Association

http://www.globalcomplexity.org/Death%20by%20Association.htm

The Real Truth

http://www.therealtruth.us/microbiologists.html

Is Someone Killing Our UFO Investigators?

http://www.karlaturner.org/articles/is_someone_killing.html

http://www.metatech.org/ufo_research_magazine_evidence.html

http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-and-aliens/html/other-mysterious-deaths.htm

Liquidation of UFO Investigators

http://www.rense.com/general64/liquid.htm

Mysterious Deaths of Scientists Associated with SDI

http://www.ufoarea.com/conspiracy_did_22_british_scientists.html

http://www.ufoarea.com/conspiracy_did_22_british_scientists2.html

http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/sdi-deaths.html

The Phil Schneider Story

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/phil.htm

http://www.greatdreams.com/uforprts.htm

Albert Einstein, Free Energy & The Strange Deaths of Morris K. Jessup & Stefan Marinov

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/jessup_marinov_einstein.htm

Through The Keyhole – Richard Dolan

http://keyholepublishing.com/index.html

James McDonald’s Fight For UFO Science

http://www.fatemag.com/issues/2000s/2005-11article3c.html

 

 

 

  


#15378 From: "Ethan X" <egenauer@...>
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 12:40 pm
Subject: DC Petrocollapse Conference schedule / Last Call to Register before MAY 6th!
livetrii
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*************************************************************
Last Call to Register for the May 6th Petrocollapse Conference in Washington DC!!

http://petrocollapse.org/register.html

With
Richard Heinberg, "Powerdown: Options and Actions for a
Post-Carbon World;" Joel Salatin, local Virginia organic farmer & featured on cover of May/June 2006 Mother Jones;
music, films & more...
A conference all people are invited to attend!

After Peak Oil:
Economic Doom or Transformation?

Culture Change and Sustainable Post-Petroleum Living
  Conference * Saturday May 6 * 9 am - 7 pm
All Souls Church, Unitarian * 16th & Harvard Streets, NW
Washington DC near Adams Morgan (Red) or
 Columbia Heights (Green) Metro Stations *  Directions   * Map


FEATURING DC PREMIERE OF NEW DOCUMENTARY FILM:
"The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil"

Schedule:
* Petrocollapse Conference from 9 am to 5 pm
* Feature Film from 11 am to noon
* Media Briefing from 1 to 1:45 pm
* Joel Salatin and Richard Heinberg speaking after 2 pm, followed by panel discussion with all speakers
*
"Party's Over" Concert with Live Music and Oil-Satire Songs by the Peak Oilers (Richard Heinberg, author of The Party's Over, playing violin; Jan Lundberg on guitar) from 5 to 7 pm
* Registration begins 8:30 am - conference starts promptly at 9!

Many independent oil experts agree that the world has hit or is fast approaching Peak Oil, the point at which half of the earth's petroleum reserves are exhausted, supply enters permanent decline, and prices begin to skyrocket. The sudden effects of perpetual oil shortage could strike at any time and would resonate throughout our economy and communities. Are we prepared?

Sponsored by Culture Change, the DC " Post-Petroleum Sustainable Living" Petrocollapse Conference will present the facts behind the hype about Peak Oil, explore the root factors of our present "oil-addicted" condition, and envision the strategies that we need to bypass unhelpful institutional barriers and achieve post-Peak Oil economic sustainability.


Experts on peak oil and the geological depletion of oil reserves, and advocates for alternative energy, community agriculture and local sustainable economics will discuss "petrocollapse," the imminent failure of the petroleum infrastructure to continue to provide the myriad goods and services that our consumer economy has grown accustomed to. Multimedia presentations and multiple films will demonstrate solutions to the audience.

CONFERENCE SPEAKERS INCLUDE
Albert Bates,
Global Ecovillage Network
Diana Leafe Christian, Communities Magazine
Richard Heinberg,
Powerdown: Options and
Actions for a Post-Carbon World
Jan Lundberg, CultureChange.org & Auto-Free Times
Mark Robinowitz, Permatopia & OilEmpire.US
Michael Kane, From the Wilderness publications
Joel Salatin, PolyFace Farms
& You Can Farm
Faith Morgan & Pat Murphy, Community Solution

John Darnell, PhD Energy Advisor
Jenna Orkin, Moderator
&
World Trade Center Environmental Organization

YOU ARE INVITED TO ATTEND!

Register online via PayPal at http://petrocollapse.org

Cost is "sliding scale," $10 - $100. Scholarships and work exchange arrangements are available for students, activists, and others. Everyone will be accomodated, and no one turned away! Send us an email with details of your situation, and/or what time or energy you may have for volunteer activity for the conference. Send to Ethan@....

Contact conference coordinator Ethan Genauer if you have any problems registering OR for more details at : Ethan@... AND (202) 966 2202

**************************************

At The Petrocollapse Conference we will ask
 

* What are we facing now as the economy prepares
to hit the wall
known as resource limits?
Will growth suddenly implode?

* What will be the effects of Peak Oil (a geological
 phenomenon caused by depletion or exhaustion of oil reserves) and
petrocollapse (an economic and social phenomenon) on food supply and other services we depend on?
* What mitigation strategies are possible?
* What is the role of the market in determining 
how severe the
effect of shortage
stemming from geological depletion will be ?

* Upon upheaval, deprivation, and a restructuring of
social relations in a "new"
local economics system,
will we choose to create a sustainable culture?


** contact conference coordinator Ethan in DC **
ethan@... (202) 966 2202

For more info, see http://petrocollapse.org AND
DC PetroCollapse press release below


**************************************

MEDIA ALERT -- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

DC Petrocollapse Conference: May 6, 2006
All Souls Church, Unitarian 16th & Harvard,
Washington, D.C


A conference on the effects of peak oil and the growing global energy crisis will take place in Washington, DC on May 6th at the All Souls Church, Unitarian from 9 A.M. to 7 P.M. Speakers include peak-oil author Richard Heinberg.

Conference organizer and speaker Jan Lundberg is a former oil industry analyst who ran the market research firm Lundberg Survey. Lundberg, who quit serving the oil industry so he could put his knowledge to use to protect the environment, says "M. King Hubbert, who developed the theory of peak oil, observed that we do not have an energy crisis but rather a culture crisis. This fits with the theme of the Washington DC Petrocollapse Conference that there is no technofix for our energy dilemma. Society will have to reclaim a closer level of community and rediscover how local economics works."

The May 6th conference will feature Richard Heinberg, the most-read peak oil author (The Party's Over, and Powerdown). Films and music will be also offered as part of a varied program to stimulate discussion and action by attendees. Heinberg and Lundberg and others will perform music including oil-satire songs. Films will include premiers of "Our Synthetic Sea" (plastics pollution in oceans) and "The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil."

Lundberg says the Petrocollapse Conference asks, "What we can do in advance of the social upheaval and chaos that may produce a 'national New Orleans,' to prepare or mitigate? What will the future look like during and after a transition to non-petroleum living?"

#######################
Background briefing for:
Petrocollapse Conference: May 6, 2006 9 A.M. - 7 P.M.
All Souls Unitarian Church - 16th & Harvard Streets, NW
Washington D.C.

The New York Times calls Peak Oil "almost certainly correct." Fortune Magazine says, "An economic tsunami is about to hit the global economy as the world runs out of oil." As oil prices soar and supplies of crude oil and refined petroleum products strain to keep up with demand, as global warming fuels out-of-control hurricanes that wreak havoc on oil production infrastructure as well as upon devastated populations, the critical issue of Peak Oil is finally becoming acknowledged in the mainstream news.

But the complete story is still suppressed, misunderstandings abound, and the public remains in the dark about the vast array of consequences due to hit from this looming "permanent energy crisis." The sudden effects of perpetual oil shortage are likely to strike within the next three years. Are we prepared? Sponsored by Culture Change, the DC PetroCollapse Conference will present the facts behind the hype about Peak Oil, explore the root factors of our present "oil-addicted" condition, and envision the strategies that we need to bypass unhelpful institutional barriers and achieve post-Peak Oil economic sustainability.

The public is also not fully aware of the extent to which oil pervades our lives not simply as fuel for transportation but also in the form of pesticides, fertilizers and plastics. A decline in oil supplies will affect our ability to grow enough food for the current global population of six and a half billion people. Malnutrition and resulting illness can be expected to spread far beyond the 3.7 billion who are currently affected into the developed world.

Our economy also depends on indefinite growth that will not be sustainable once Peak Oil hits. Its arrival is likely to have a paralyzing affect on certain sectors of the economy which will in turn spread both nationally and globally.

Most independent oil experts agree that the peak in global oil extraction is occurring approximately now. The pressures of the market to distribute the fuels and materials made from petroleum are already creating intense competition for energy supplies around the world. As the gap between supply and demand widens and prices skyrocket, supply will tighten as never before due to hoarding. This will cause massive repercussions in daily living and the global economy. Not only will people have to adapt to an energy-poor world by concentrating on sustainably working with their regional ecosystems for all their needs, but will also have to cope with climate change which is rapidly accelerating. This scenario is referred to by oil expert and conference organizer Jan Lundberg as Petrocollapse.

As the conference brochure states, "the world's peak in oil extraction is about now -- although there is uncertainty and debate. The pressures of the Market to smoothly spread around the fuels and materials made from petroleum promise to create intense competition for energy supplies, as seen already today on the world stage. As the gap between supply and demand widens and prices skyrocket, supply will tighten as never before due to hoarding. This will cause massive repercussions in daily living and the global economy. Not only will people have to adapt to an energy-poor world by concentrating on sustainably working with their regional ecosystems for all their needs, climate change is accelerating."

** contact conference coordinator Ethan in DC **
Ethan@... * (202) 966 2202

#15379 From: "Doctor Whodini" <doctor_whodini01@...>
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 1:13 am
Subject: Whats going down? The FIX is in...
doctor_whodini
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Hello all,

Alex Jones, down in the trenches in New York City, released an alarming
video of whats going down NOT in the future, but NOW:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/020506martiallaw.htm

This planet, this Earth, is literally being turned into a Prison Planet! If
you're NOT part of their system, you're part of the problem.

Bill

---
William S. Alek
Exploring Gravitational and Inertial Mass fluctuations,
Radiant Energy, and Temporal Anomalies
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#15380 From: "Ethan X" <egenauer@...>
Date: Sat May 6, 2006 9:39 am
Subject: Today! DC Petrocollapse Conference Unites Experts, Activists and Visionaries
livetrii
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DC Resistance Media Collective

Media Advisory
For immediate release

May 5, 2006

May 6th DC Petrocollapse Conference: Culture
Change and Sustainable Post-Petroleum Living

What: Experts Address Peak Oil and the Root Causes of Soaring Energy Costs

When: Saturday, May 6, 2006, 9am – 7pm

Where: All Souls Unitarian Church
at 16th & Harvard Streets NW,
Washington, DC
(near Columbia Heights and Adams Morgan Metros)

With gasoline prices soaring once again, natural gas supplies stretched drum-tight, and global conflict accelerating over diminishing  petroleum sources, public attention has turned increasingly toward energy supplies, costs and alternatives.

Many independent oil experts agree that the world has hit or is fast approaching Peak Oil, the point at which half of the Earth's oil reserves are exhausted, supply enters permanent decline, and prices begin to skyrocket. The sudden impacts of perpetual oil shortage could strike at any time and would resonate throughout our economy and communities. Are people and communities prepared? Can institutions and governments plan for mitigation?

Will oil supplies decline gradually or will we face "PetroCollapse," a massive failure of the global petroleum infrastructure to provide the goods and services on which our consumer economy depends? The DC Petrocollapse Conference will present the facts about Peak Oil, and envision strategies that communities need to achieve post-Peak Oil economic sustainability.

Who:

· Albert Bates: Global Ecovillage Network

· Diana Christian: Communities Magazine

· John Darnell: Ph.D. energy advisor

· Richard Heinberg: Author of The Party's Over and Powerdown

· Michael Kane: Alternative energy analyst, From The Wilderness pubs.

· Jan Lundberg: Petroleum industry analyst, founder of Culture Change

· Pat Murphy: The Community Solution

· Jenna Orkin: Moderator; World Trade Center Environmental Org.

· Mark Robinowitz: Author of Permatopia: A Graceful End To Cheap Oil

· Joel Salatin: Organic Agriculturalist, Author of You Can Farm

The DC Petrocollapse Conference will feature the DC premieres of two new documentary films: The Power of Community – How Cuba Survived Peak Oil and Our Synthetic Sea, about the planet-wide plastic pollution of the world's oceans. From 5 to 7 pm, the conference will conclude with music performed by the Peak Oilers (Richard Heinberg on violin, Jan Lundberg playing guitar).

Contact:

Jan Lundberg, Culture Change Founder
(703) 869-6465 (cell) / (215) 243-3144 (vm)

Ethan Genauer, Conference Coordinator
(202) 966-2202 / ethan (at) culturechange.org

Conference sponsored by Culture Change
Visit www.PetroCollapse.org
and www.CultureChange.org

#15381 From: "MarshaMcClelland" <mofmars3@...>
Date: Fri May 12, 2006 5:30 pm
Subject: ***SOS***Urgent message to all groups>Press Release & Open Letter to all People
marshamcclel...
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***SOS***Urgent message to all groups>Press Release & Open Letter to
all People

Time to speak up and take action everyone...The enemy is trying to
close in...If we are to save our freedom and future it's time now to
make the moves

Due to hackers and much outside interference I have lost 500 +
groups our groups networked with...I have rejoined approx. 10% of
what was terminated because of the powers that be

Please help me shortcut building the data base of groups back up by
inviting back to your group and forward this urgent communication
everywhere

If you need media or elected official contacts to make your much
needed voice be heard, let me know

If you are a group owner that would like your group links or website
added to ours, please send me your information at
mofmars3@...

>>> Click here: Website
http://www.wethepeopleunited.com/

For those who don't know me, I'm a human and civil rights activist
in the business of joining together and promoting productive groups,
organizations and individuals to help save America

Please join us at our main site and sign up post>>>

"We The People United Movement"
We are many Political and Patriot Groups joining together, to help
right the wrongs in America..."United We Will Stand"

WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Press Release & Open Letter to all People, including media & elected
officials

"We The People," the true majority, in understanding the dangerous
ground we stand, look forward to working with those intent on
righting the many wrongs in America.

With your help, together we can and will defeat this broken and
corrupt system we have allowed to flourish and exist for far too
long.

We must succeed to secure the future for the sake of all children on
this planet. Their very lives are at stake.

For far too long, too many have been looking the other way as
multitudes have suffered and died.

We look forward to the time when we can finally implement and share
with our neighbors, the many known alternatives to the oil saga
which is destroying our people and planet.

Many of us are thankful to those in media with integrity who are
speaking out, allowing truth to finally be told.

We are aware of those in elected positions who have our best
interests at heart, too.

Thank you all, on behalf of all our people everywhere.

We are especially thankful to Lou Dobbs from CNN News, whom the real
patriots appreciate and love.

As for the rest who don't have our best interests in mind, we are
watching, taking note and educating the masses.

We are giving some, one last chance to come over to the correct and
moral side of this war of corruption, we are all up against.

There is, now, so much truth out, shedding so much light everywhere,
that no conspiracy or corruption is safe or will be left uncovered.

The attack of truth is on. "We The People" are on the move and
corruption is on the run.

There should be no right or left to anything any more. Just right or
wrong.

So, please, someone tell Bill the shill O'Reilly from Fox News, to
get off that deceptive spin.

Tell him to stop the fake stereo type political agenda kick,
continuously labeling what's right as "the pinhead left."

And on the illegal immigration matter.

To those few compared to the masses throughout cyberworld and
uncyberworld, who are so very angry with Lou Dobbs and those of like
mind. Know the anger's for good reason and please try to pay close
attention to everything involved.

Please try to see the big picture before you judge what others have
to say. In fact, everyone needs see all sides of this whole picture,
cutting through all illusion and right to truth of the hard core
reality.

Truth can and does hurt sometimes but as individuals and as a whole,
we can get past the pain, then the healing can begin.

The lack of truth is always much more hurtful, especially in the
long run and very deadly for many.

Some say we don't need a wall at our border?

Most know we must close the borders "NOW" and everyone must
understand the need for the wall.

There's a stretch of fence that has proven to limit the crime in one
town that has been reported by main stream media. So we already know
the wall can work.

We have to stop the chaos and take care of the many wrongs on this
side of the border before we will be able to help others.

It's the only way.

We must fix America before we can help our neighbors effectively. As
we should have been doing all along.

We have to stop the flow over the border long enough to result in
fixing all that's broken here.

Stop the chaos long enough to get a grip on corruption here,
starting at the top in government and including all else involved.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

First, we need that wall and when the day comes to knock it down,
then we all can celebrate.

We need a plan for the recovery of our America and we need it now.

We need our elected leaders to work directly with "US" to create it.

A plan that will remedy all and save "US" as well as everyone else
in the world, too.

One that will take us off this road of destruction we are on.

A plan that will save all the good people from what could be fates
worse than death, as has been the case for many, for generations.

We now see where perpetual war has gotten us and who's benefited.

Those times are over and the rich and greedy are finished being able
to deceive the people as a whole.

Justly, the corrupt in government, their partners in crime and
(((criminal corporate america))) should foot the bill for our
recovery concerning the immigration situation as well as all else
they have helped to taint and destroy.

It will be sort of like taking from the greedy and evil rich and
giving to the poor and deserving.

Although here against the law, all non-citizens should be taken care
of on individual basis and according to their merits, or lack of
them.

They should be allowed to stay but no quick and hasty citizenship
should be given for those here illegally. Longer term citizenship
goals could be established. After proper channels have been met such
as backgrounds checks.

Everyone should at least be paid minimum wage, if not already and an
increase for all others, that is long over due should be awarded.

Please bear with me as I offer some suggestions from a layman's
point of view to use as food for thought in creating the needed plan
that will save us.

To help fund the needed programs for the fair treatment of non-
citizens, how about using the billions from the illegal immigrants
using fake social security numbers?

Then the controversial and illegal federal income tax could be
addressed as should have been done and remedied already.

>>>   http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

This unfair, extra and added tax on top of all the others that we
pay, could be replaced by a fair tax, non-citizens could be
responsible for. This could finally and justly relieve the over
taxed and over burdened middle class.

The "Truth" behind the federal reserve and all that goes with that,
to further clean up corruption needs be part of our
agenda>>>http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyown
ed.htm

Many committees of average citizens need and should be formed on
many fronts, including a desperately needed committee to oversee the
transition of downsizing DC.

Our friends at Downsize, DC could head up that department. Gladly
and efficiently, I'm sure>>>http://www.downsizedc.org/

We need to get a hold on the senseless spending, "NOW" and needless
jobs should be liquidated carefully and fairly.

Not to worry. "Not one person would be left behind." There would be
doors opening for all those that close. All would get what they have
worked for and deserve. Good and bad

We know the corrupt administration and the powers the be, that drive
them, have been very busy safeguarding for their own future needs.
Especially since they have such a big hand and hope in forcing the
worse to happen.

As for our future, they have readied many prison camps as we all
know as well as knowing their many locations.

Included at the end of this communication are many links for
information and research pertaining to these prison camps.

They have been planning and hoping to create martial law to round up
the dissidents. "The True Patriots" of America.

"We The People" know this is why the widespread wire tapping is
going on. It's our own people who are being targeted. The one's who
want truth and justice is who this administration is after.

This is because they know we know they're war criminals as well as
criminals of all sorts.

They know when this is all over, only one of "US" will be left
standing and they are very much hoping to save themselves.

We must not let that happen.

We are already many patriots in jails now.

The latest being one of our patriots incarcerated for hanging a
sign>>>http://tinyurl.com/pegu5

We worry for our friend who is a very old man named Irwin Schiff who
may in prison for telling the truth. A hero and pioneer in fighting
for us all for truth concerning the illegal income tax.

They abuse him and actually take his commissary money stating he
owes it to the government.

   Irwin A. Schiff, Inmate ID No. 08537014
   Florence Correctional Center
   1100 Bowling Road
   Florence, Arizona 85232
   520-868-9095
   fax - 520-868-9565

We are tired of living with injustice and in fear. Our people have
been preparing and busy educating law enforcement and military for
several years now>>>http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/vk2k.shtml

http://www.patriotamerica.com/

If the evil and corrupt empire initiates what they have been vying
for, civil war, many have taken careful precaution.

Including educating law enforcement and military so they will know
which way to point the guns, if and when it comes down to that.

"Lord" forbid that should happen.

Okay back to layman's ideas to brainstorm and hopefully help figure
how to help repair America.

Those prison camps could come in very handy, couldn't they? We hear
they are ready and already staffed.

We could make very good use of them for the criminal element as well
as safe haven for the displaced until their wanted & deserved
destinations are determined and followed through on with remedy.

These camps I speak of could be made pleasant and humane
environments.

Just a thought.

We must help everyone, including those who may or may not need
deported.

Deportation should be the very last consideration or move.

The bad seeds could be housed separately as we sort out the bad
elements.

All those who are not clearly bad news (real criminals) should be
given highest consideration and help to place them where they need
and want to be.

Unless otherwise proven guilty of crime, with no doubt left to
reason, everyone should qualify for non-citizen benefits with a fair
shot at citizenship at a later time.

Don't think it can't be done and order created out of this huge
mess. It has to be done.

Even the displaced Katrina people could gather at these many huge
camp sites in order to be placed where they could be helped in an
orderly and acceptable manner.

Maybe we could revamp the CIA to be the intake center for the
millions of applications that would need legitimate and timely
attention for the immigrants and Katrina victims?

The CIA is no good at spying and ruined in that department for now,
it seems, anyway.

The good guys and gals left standing after all the scandals play
out, would make great intake officers, wouldn't they?

The FBI, NSA, DEA, all those broken three letter organizations need
revamped.

No band aids will do, we need complete cures now.

"We The People" are the employers of those in government and we need
to play a big part in the plans and actions for recovery at this
point.

Many committees of citizens should be created to watch over all
government entities.

Until we learn who can be trusted, their every move needs watched
closely. This, until we'd feel safe enough to trust and leave them
operating on their own, again.

Then, after we figured out who the good people were, we could
promote the trustworthy from within and a new legitimate CIA could
be born.

Maybe all the other three letter agencies could have productive and
beneficial job description changes, too?

We could recreate all the agencies, promoting from within and from
outside too, for a better and trustworthy work force that would
truly safeguard America, for a change.

Our hopes and prayers are with you that stand with "US." To
pResident bush we say, "Bring it on"

We are ready, willing and able to defend ourselves for the sake of
our children and their bleak looking future.

Time to right the many wrongs in America...Then we will have the
right to be proud to be Americans, once again
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"We The People United Movement"
We are many Political and Patriot Groups joining together, to help
right the wrongs in America..."United We Will Stand"

We are a network of hundreds and hundreds of spiritual, political
and patriotic groups...Then we pyramid out to thousands upon
thousands and so on and so on

We have united all important issues for strength in numbers and
voice that "will" be heard

We are many & we mean business...

I give permission to anyone who wants to post or use anything I ever
write.

God Bless our Minutemen.

God Bless us All,
Marsha McClelland
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
XXX_XXX_XXXX

News from our alternative media:

911 "Truth" is out and busting loose

Upcoming International 911 Truth Conference,
Chicago, Illinois June 2-4, 2006
http://www.911revealingthetruth.org/

&

There's a major movement going on. It's the "New Super Third Party",
made up of all third parties and those who will come out of the
broken democrat and republican parties.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WE WANT TO TELL CONGRESS TO ASSERT THEIR AUTHORITY ON ANY
DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST IRAN

ACTION PAGE:
http://liberty.horneforcongress.com/petitions/pnum289.php
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERICA ~
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.3.htm

U.S. APPROVES USE OF MILITARY AGAINST CITIZENS

http://www.thewinds.org/1997/02/military_role.html

Locations and Executive Orders
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm

Hi-res Photos - Prison Camp in Mississippi Confirmed
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps_confirmed.htm

America's Prison Camps
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/prison_camps.htm

Army Document Jan. 2005
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/prison_camps.pdf  .pdf file

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/prison_camps.zip  zipped Word file 35mb

Mirrored from Illuminati-News
http://www.illuminati-news.com/pdf/prison_camps.pdf

	 Compound / Range 3
This is the site with the latest info & pictures concerning
the "Camp Grayling Range 3 area" speculated by some to be a citizen
detention camp located on a Michigan military reservation.

Surely, this is a very real place...But, what is this place exactly,
and does it serve as a sinister holding area for future government
dissidents through Rex '84, Operation Garden Plot, & FEMA programs?

Decide for yourself...
http://www.geocities.com/stealth_shadow2005/index.html

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15B.ashcr.camps.htm


Concentration camps in US by State index
http://www.rense.com/general17/statebystate.htm

Concentration camps in US
http://gulagamerika.homestead.com

MILITARY POLICE INTERNMENT/RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS
http://web.archive.org/web/20040202213118/http://www.adtdl.army.mil/c
gi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-19.40/toc.htm

Posted 8/19/01 PDF FORMAT:
http://www.apfn.org/pdf/camps.pdf

Concentration/Detention Camps
UN Equipment Said In Place Around US
http://www.rense.com/political/campsfound.htm


CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS UP FOR REVIEW
http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/archive/government/camp9-97.html

Concentration Camp Locations in Southern California
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/concentration.htm

www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html (site is down as of 08/19/01)

Archived:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001019053553/http://www.abovetopsecret.c
om/camps.html

300+ concentration camps" (98/4/17)
http://web.archive.org/web/20001210130900/www.guncontrolvictories.com
/k_campslist.html

INFO ON DETENTION CAMPS
http://www.myplanet.net/jeffhead/dadmisc/camps.htm

#15382 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" <bap@...>
Date: Sat May 13, 2006 8:14 pm
Subject: Alternative energy take spotlight at international science fair
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#15383 From: "MarshaMcClelland" <mofmars3@...>
Date: Sat May 13, 2006 8:22 pm
Subject: Follow up on feedbak: Press Release & Open Letter to all people, media & elected
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Follow up on feedbak: Press Release & Open Letter to all people,
media & elected officials

Please keep in mind this press release is only layman's way of
thinking, offering examples as food for thought.

This, in hope that those with integrity in elected official
positions will fight to come up with acceptable remedy for recovery
in America.

Some say that every immigrant who has entered this country since
1980, should be deported, because most did not go through the proper
channels to gain citizenship.

But.

It was because of "US" (corporate america and all who benefited from
exploiting others) that drew them here in the first place.

We can't ever blame someone for wanting to come here for survival.

Especially when they were purposely encouraged because of the greed
in others and at the same time condoned by government.

Due to the established past practice in policy of dealing with this
matter, or lack of, we are now legally and morally responsible for
the well being of most of these people.

Some are saying they don't like the idea of taking from anyone to
give to someone else.

As in, when I said corrupt government and their partners in crime as
well as criminal corporate america should foot the bill to correct
and right the wrongs done in the illegal immigration situation.

It would not be taking from others at all. It would be simple
justice.

Those responsible who have knowingly hired non-citizens in big
business and/or any business or home should be heavily fined on each
count.

Taking all into consideration, each business, individually.

Such as how many illegal people and for how long.

Fines should be stiffer for those who fueled their greed as in not
even paying one the minimum wage, too.

In other words the filthier rich one is because of greed, they need
give back in the same measure of all they took and oppressed.

I'm also saying, all these rats in government positions should help
foot the bill who are found guilty of any kind of corruption, from
now on.

Their well deserved fines should be put in a special fund that will
be controlled by citizens overseeing they are used where needed.

Some say they are against the idea of non-citizens being paid
minimum wage.

They need understand because of this, our own wages are depressed in
the first place.

From now on all immigrants who are allowed to stay, should make at
least minimum wage so the reason for the exploiting stops.

"Lord" forbid the rich get any richer from this past greedy, selfish
and criminal way of life.

We have been oppressed by their actions and made subject to this for
so very long.

I cannot understand why anyone can't see the need for the wall.

It would cut down on manpower needed there in the long run and it
would create jobs in the meantime, at the same time. I don't like
the idea of a wall either but I believe one is needed until the
chaos becomes order.

Some are saying people need to get out of, "The being taken care of
mentality, and learn to take care of themselves."

I agree. But due to circumstances and there are many in this case,
we need help them get to a point where they have a fair and decent
chance to help themselves, first.

Marsha
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Press Release & Open Letter to all People, including media & elected
officials

"We The People," the true majority, in understanding the dangerous
ground we stand, look forward to working with those intent on
righting the many wrongs in America.

With your help, together we can and will defeat this broken and
corrupt system we have allowed to flourish and exist for far too
long.

We must succeed to secure the future for the sake of all children on
this planet. Their very lives are at stake.

For far too long, too many have been looking the other way as
multitudes have suffered and died.

We look forward to the time when we can finally implement and share
with our neighbors, the many known alternatives to the oil saga
which is destroying our people and planet.

Many of us are thankful to those in media with integrity who are
speaking out, allowing truth to finally be told.

We are aware of those in elected positions who have our best
interests at heart, too.

Thank you all, on behalf of all our people everywhere.

We are especially thankful to Lou Dobbs from CNN News, whom the real
patriots appreciate and love.

As for the rest who don't have our best interests in mind, we are
watching, taking note and educating the masses.

We are giving some, one last chance to come over to the correct and
moral side of this war of corruption, we are all up against.

There is, now, so much truth out, shedding so much light everywhere,
that no conspiracy or corruption is safe or will be left uncovered.

The attack of truth is on. "We The People" are on the move and
corruption is on the run.

There should be no right or left to anything any more. Just right or
wrong.

So, please, someone tell Bill the shill O'Reilly from Fox News, to
get off that deceptive spin.

Tell him to stop the fake stereo type political agenda kick,
continuously labeling what's right as "the pinhead left."

And on the illegal immigration matter.

To those few compared to the masses throughout cyberworld and
uncyberworld, who are so very angry with Lou Dobbs and those of like
mind. Know the anger's for good reason and please try to pay close
attention to everything involved.

Please try to see the big picture before you judge what others have
to say. In fact, everyone needs see all sides of this whole picture,
cutting through all illusion and right to truth of the hard core
reality.

Truth can and does hurt sometimes but as individuals and as a whole,
we can get past the pain, then the healing can begin.

The lack of truth is always much more hurtful, especially in the
long run and very deadly for many.

Some say we don't need a wall at our border?

Most know we must close the borders "NOW" and everyone must
understand the need for the wall.

There's a stretch of fence that has proven to limit the crime in one
town that has been reported by main stream media. So we already know
the wall can work.

We have to stop the chaos and take care of the many wrongs on this
side of the border before we will be able to help others.

It's the only way.

We must fix America before we can help our neighbors effectively. As
we should have been doing all along.

We have to stop the flow over the border long enough to result in
fixing all that's broken here.

Stop the chaos long enough to get a grip on corruption here,
starting at the top in government and including all else involved.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

First, we need that wall and when the day comes to knock it down,
then we all can celebrate.

We need a plan for the recovery of our America and we need it now.

We need our elected leaders to work directly with "US" to create it.

A plan that will remedy all and save "US" as well as everyone else
in the world, too.

One that will take us off this road of destruction we are on.

A plan that will save all the good people from what could be fates
worse than death, as has been the case for many, for generations.

We now see where perpetual war has gotten us and who's benefited.

Those times are over and the rich and greedy are finished being able
to deceive the people as a whole.

Justly, the corrupt in government, their partners in crime and
(((criminal corporate america))) should foot the bill for our
recovery concerning the immigration situation as well as all else
they have helped to taint and destroy.

It will be sort of like taking from the greedy and evil rich and
giving to the poor and deserving.

Although here against the law, all non-citizens should be taken care
of on individual basis and according to their merits, or lack of
them.

They should be allowed to stay but no quick and hasty citizenship
should be given for those here illegally. Longer term citizenship
goals could be established. After proper channels have been met such
as backgrounds checks.

Everyone should at least be paid minimum wage, if not already and an
increase for all others, that is long over due should be awarded.

Please bear with me as I offer some suggestions from a layman's
point of view to use as food for thought in creating the needed plan
that will save us.

To help fund the needed programs for the fair treatment of non-
citizens, how about using the billions from the illegal immigrants
using fake social security numbers?

Then the controversial and illegal federal income tax could be
addressed as should have been done and remedied already.

>>>   http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

This unfair, extra and added tax on top of all the others that we
pay, could be replaced by a fair tax, non-citizens could be
responsible for. This could finally and justly relieve the over
taxed and over burdened middle class.

The "Truth" behind the federal reserve and all that goes with that,
to further clean up corruption needs be part of our
agenda>>>http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyown
ed.htm

Many committees of average citizens need and should be formed on
many fronts, including a desperately needed committee to oversee the
transition of downsizing DC.

Our friends at Downsize, DC could head up that department. Gladly
and efficiently, I'm sure>>>http://www.downsizedc.org/

We need to get a hold on the senseless spending, "NOW" and needless
jobs should be liquidated carefully and fairly.

Not to worry. "Not one person would be left behind." There would be
doors opening for all those that close. All would get what they have
worked for and deserve. Good and bad

We know the corrupt administration and the powers the be, that drive
them, have been very busy safeguarding for their own future needs.
Especially since they have such a big hand and hope in forcing the
worse to happen.

As for our future, they have readied many prison camps as we all
know as well as knowing their many locations.

Included at the end of this communication are many links for
information and research pertaining to these prison camps.

They have been planning and hoping to create martial law to round up
the dissidents. "The True Patriots" of America.

"We The People" know this is why the widespread wire tapping is
going on. It's our own people who are being targeted. The one's who
want truth and justice is who this administration is after.

This is because they know we know they're war criminals as well as
criminals of all sorts.

They know when this is all over, only one of "US" will be left
standing and they are very much hoping to save themselves.

We must not let that happen.

We are already many patriots in jails now.

The latest being one of our patriots incarcerated for hanging a
sign>>>http://tinyurl.com/pegu5

We worry for our friend who is a very old man named Irwin Schiff who
may in prison for telling the truth. A hero and pioneer in fighting
for us all for truth concerning the illegal income tax.

They abuse him and actually take his commissary money stating he
owes it to the government.

   Irwin A. Schiff, Inmate ID No. 08537014
   Florence Correctional Center
   1100 Bowling Road
   Florence, Arizona 85232
   520-868-9095
   fax - 520-868-9565

We are tired of living with injustice and in fear. Our people have
been preparing and busy educating law enforcement and military for
several years now>>>http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/vk2k.shtml

http://www.patriotamerica.com/

If the evil and corrupt empire initiates what they have been vying
for, civil war, many have taken careful precaution.

Including educating law enforcement and military so they will know
which way to point the guns, if and when it comes down to that.

"Lord" forbid that should happen.

Okay back to layman's ideas to brainstorm and hopefully help figure
how to help repair America.

Those prison camps could come in very handy, couldn't they? We hear
they are ready and already staffed.

We could make very good use of them for the criminal element as well
as safe haven for the displaced until their wanted & deserved
destinations are determined and followed through on with remedy.

These camps I speak of could be made pleasant and humane
environments.

Just a thought.

We must help everyone, including those who may or may not need
deported.

Deportation should be the very last consideration or move.

The bad seeds could be housed separately as we sort out the bad
elements.

All those who are not clearly bad news (real criminals) should be
given highest consideration and help to place them where they need
and want to be.

Unless otherwise proven guilty of crime, with no doubt left to
reason, everyone should qualify for non-citizen benefits with a fair
shot at citizenship at a later time.

Don't think it can't be done and order created out of this huge
mess. It has to be done.

Even the displaced Katrina people could gather at these many huge
camp sites in order to be placed where they could be helped in an
orderly and acceptable manner.

Maybe we could revamp the CIA to be the intake center for the
millions of applications that would need legitimate and timely
attention for the immigrants and Katrina victims?

The CIA is no good at spying and ruined in that department for now,
it seems, anyway.

The good guys and gals left standing after all the scandals play
out, would make great intake officers, wouldn't they?

The FBI, NSA, DEA, all those broken three letter organizations need
revamped.

No band aids will do, we need complete cures now.

"We The People" are the employers of those in government and we need
to play a big part in the plans and actions for recovery at this
point.

Many committees of citizens should be created to watch over all
government entities.

Until we learn who can be trusted, their every move needs watched
closely. This, until we'd feel safe enough to trust and leave them
operating on their own, again.

Then, after we figured out who the good people were, we could
promote the trustworthy from within and a new legitimate CIA could
be born.

Maybe all the other three letter agencies could have productive and
beneficial job description changes, too?

We could recreate all the agencies, promoting from within and from
outside too, for a better and trustworthy work force that would
truly safeguard America, for a change.

Our hopes and prayers are with you that stand with "US." To
pResident bush we say, "Bring it on"

We are ready, willing and able to defend ourselves for the sake of
our children and their bleak looking future.

Time to right the many wrongs in America...Then we will have the
right to be proud to be Americans, once again
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"We The People United Movement"
We are many Political and Patriot Groups joining together, to help
right the wrongs in America..."United We Will Stand"

We are a network of hundreds and hundreds of spiritual, political
and patriotic groups...Then we pyramid out to thousands upon
thousands and so on and so on

We have united all important issues for strength in numbers and
voice that "will" be heard

We are many & we mean business...

I give permission to anyone who wants to post or use anything I ever
write.

God Bless our Minutemen.

God Bless us All,
Marsha McClelland
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
330 926-1679

News from our alternative media:

911 "Truth" is out and busting loose

Upcoming International 911 Truth Conference,
Chicago, Illinois June 2-4, 2006
http://www.911revealingthetruth.org/

&

There's a major movement going on. It's the "New Super Third Party",
made up of all third parties and those who will come out of the
broken democrat and republican parties.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WE WANT TO TELL CONGRESS TO ASSERT THEIR AUTHORITY ON ANY
DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST IRAN

ACTION PAGE:
http://liberty.horneforcongress.com/petitions/pnum289.php
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERICA ~
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.3.htm

U.S. APPROVES USE OF MILITARY AGAINST CITIZENS

http://www.thewinds.org/1997/02/military_role.html

Locations and Executive Orders
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm

Hi-res Photos - Prison Camp in Mississippi Confirmed
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps_confirmed.htm

America's Prison Camps
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/prison_camps.htm

Army Document Jan. 2005
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/prison_camps.pdf  .pdf file

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/prison_camps.zip  zipped Word file 35mb

Mirrored from Illuminati-News
http://www.illuminati-news.com/pdf/prison_camps.pdf

	 Compound / Range 3
This is the site with the latest info & pictures concerning
the "Camp Grayling Range 3 area" speculated by some to be a citizen
detention camp located on a Michigan military reservation.

Surely, this is a very real place...But, what is this place exactly,
and does it serve as a sinister holding area for future government
dissidents through Rex '84, Operation Garden Plot, & FEMA programs?

Decide for yourself...
http://www.geocities.com/stealth_shadow2005/index.html

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15B.ashcr.camps.htm


Concentration camps in US by State index
http://www.rense.com/general17/statebystate.htm

Concentration camps in US
http://gulagamerika.homestead.com

MILITARY POLICE INTERNMENT/RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS
http://web.archive.org/web/20040202213118/http://www.adtdl.army.mil/c
gi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-19.40/toc.htm

Posted 8/19/01 PDF FORMAT:
http://www.apfn.org/pdf/camps.pdf

Concentration/Detention Camps
UN Equipment Said In Place Around US
http://www.rense.com/political/campsfound.htm


CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS UP FOR REVIEW
http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/archive/government/camp9-97.html

Concentration Camp Locations in Southern California
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/concentration.htm

www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html (site is down as of 08/19/01)

Archived:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001019053553/http://www.abovetopsecret.c
om/camps.html

300+ concentration camps" (98/4/17)
http://web.archive.org/web/20001210130900/www.guncontrolvictories.com
/k_campslist.html

INFO ON DETENTION CAMPS
http://www.myplanet.net/jeffhead/dadmisc/camps.htm

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