How about , we all become leaders. We can post to this
group if anybody knows anything that would be of interests
to us all?

Cheers,
Sione.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Derricutt" <mark@...>
To: <nzjava@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nzjava] Hello


> So....  what you're saying is, you're not really leader material?
>
> Maybe Sione should take the reigns then :)
>
> --On Monday, July 28, 2003 22:11:38 +1200 Angela Brett
> <gazingfondly@...> wrote:
>
> > Which is, incidentally, another thing I don't have.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>

>So....  what you're saying is, you're not really leader material?

Actually I just said I'm uncoordinated.

I don't think we really need a leader just for ordinary meetings. If
we need a leader it's probably to organise talks and such, which
would be best handled by somebody who has more experience with Java,
or if that's not possible, at least some organisational skills. I
volunteer to pester the leader into organising things. I guess I
could play at being the dumb co-host if one is necessary. I took a
few semesters of first-year programming lectures at university, so I
know how to pretend to be stupid.
--
Angela Brett
gazingfondly@...
http://apronyms.com/angela

So....  what you're saying is, you're not really leader material?

Maybe Sione should take the reigns then :)

--On Monday, July 28, 2003 22:11:38 +1200 Angela Brett
<gazingfondly@...> wrote:

> Which is, incidentally, another thing I don't have.

>Never :)  Group organisation is all good, all it needs is co-ordination.

Which is, incidentally, another thing I don't have.

Yes, it was! On your instruction I went and found him, but he had to put
the meeting off for a while as his car was broken into.

S F Palu wrote:

>Richard,
>
>I talked to you about an Auckland Java group, at the last meeting at
>Borland, and I mentioned to you , that I thought it was you who ran
>this group and you said no. I think , the group is Lachlan's group.
>
>We should make that group merge with the group at the Borland (your
>Borland office).
>
>Cheers,
>Sione. Palu.
>
>
>
>

Never :)  Group organisation is all good, all it needs is co-ordination.

Speaking of the web page - does it have an RSS feed for the news items?

--On Sunday, July 27, 2003 20:56:25 +1200 Richard Vowles
<rvowles@...> wrote:

> moderator to approve stuff... Don't think of me as some organizational
> God...

Mark Derricutt wrote:

>And still she's organising :-) heh.
>
>--On Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:26:55 +1200 Angela Brett
><gazingfondly@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Well, Smalltalk - you can give a small talk on that then <g>.
>>
>>

Speaking of which, if you spot things that need to be announced, well, I
don't see the need to require just one person - if you want to organise
it - post it here and on the web page - I could do with another
moderator to approve stuff... Don't think of me as some organizational
God...

And still she's organising :-) heh.

--On Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:26:55 +1200 Angela Brett
<gazingfondly@...> wrote:

> Well, Smalltalk - you can give a small talk on that then <g>.

>
>Sounds like me going and doing a seminar on Smalltalk - I've done 5 lines
>of code :)

Well, Smalltalk - you can give a small talk on that then <g>.

I am keen on curry. As long there is substantial amount of meat in it.
If it is only a bowl with one or two cube of meat in it , then that would
not make me feel full. I eat tons of meat.

Cheers,
Sione.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Derricutt" <mark@...>
To: <nzjava@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nzjava] Hello


> On Saturday, July 26, 2003 03:44:46 +1200 S F Palu <sionep@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Since , you are becoming regular in posting for this list, I am going to
> > propose your name
>
> Two posts from Angela makes her regular?  Mind you - thats pretty much
more
> posts than ANY one has made here lately.  Other than myself and Richard.
>
> > to Richard to take over of running our Auckland group's details of
> > meetings, seminars,and so on. Richard would still be the grandmaster
> > of directing the Auckland group, but he can work with you to get us
> > moving forward.
>
> Running or organising?
>
> > organizing things. It sounds like, you are enthusiasts and passion about
> > our group.
>
> For what its worth - I could be tempted to do a small talk on Anthill and
> automated build servers, maybe.  I hate public speaking, but hey, I'll
just
> hide behind the laptop :)
>
> > for  organizing monthly meetings or seminars about Java technology and
> > stuff like that.
>
> Does it have to be anything "organised", I like the idea of the Java
Meetup
> crowd, you just turn up for coffee/beer or whatever and let the discussion
> take its own direction, unless someone has a topic specifically in mind to
> demo...
>
> > How about getting around once a month for a beer in Ponsonby?
> > I live in Ponsonby and there are lots of little cafes or restaurants for
a
> > Steinlager
>
> Sounds good, I'm in Mt Eden and work in Queen Street so Borders is handy
> for me,
>
> > I am keen on this beer end of the month  get together. Anyway, I get
> > wasted every
>
> On a related topic - every 2nd thursday we have a curry night, a bunch of
> coders and network admins, see http://thursdaynightcurry.com and
> http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com - if anyone is keen for a curry and
> java chat the more the merrier :)
>
> This weeks curry is at Simla on Mt Eden Road.
>
> > Friday and do Java during the  week, so anyone who wants to join me
every
>
> Fridays I'm often out pool'ing at Parnel ballroom...
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> nzjava-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

On Saturday, July 26, 2003 13:16:32 +1200 Angela Brett
<gazingfondly@...> wrote:

> Wow, I post a few messages and suddenly I'm nominated as an
> organiser? I'm flattered but I must warn you that my organisational
> skills don't extend much further than refactoring code.

Well, refactoring - you can give a talk on that then <g>.

> I am, as you say, enthusiastic, and I like to go to meetings of geeks
> (even if they're meetings of Java geeks and I haven't written more
> than 118 lines of Java in my life) so I can be counted on to suggest

Sounds like me going and doing a seminar on Smalltalk - I've done 5 lines
of code :)

> Unless of course we follow the Original Java Users Group and meet in
> Borders or Dymocks. Programming books *and* coffee, what could be
> better? [Books, coffee and a wireless network, that's what.]

Lachlan (sp?) is now working in Albany with Peter Harison doing java stuff
over there, so thers a java contingent on that side of the world, which
depending on albany-locality, could car pool over to any organised JUG
event here, get numbers, save parking, and a good time ( er, sounds like
something scratched on a public loo wall there ).

Mark

On Saturday, July 26, 2003 03:44:46 +1200 S F Palu <sionep@...>
wrote:

> Since , you are becoming regular in posting for this list, I am going to
> propose your name

Two posts from Angela makes her regular?  Mind you - thats pretty much more
posts than ANY one has made here lately.  Other than myself and Richard.

> to Richard to take over of running our Auckland group's details of
> meetings, seminars,and so on. Richard would still be the grandmaster
> of directing the Auckland group, but he can work with you to get us
> moving forward.

Running or organising?

> organizing things. It sounds like, you are enthusiasts and passion about
> our group.

For what its worth - I could be tempted to do a small talk on Anthill and
automated build servers, maybe.  I hate public speaking, but hey, I'll just
hide behind the laptop :)

> for  organizing monthly meetings or seminars about Java technology and
> stuff like that.

Does it have to be anything "organised", I like the idea of the Java Meetup
crowd, you just turn up for coffee/beer or whatever and let the discussion
take its own direction, unless someone has a topic specifically in mind to
demo...

> How about getting around once a month for a beer in Ponsonby?
> I live in Ponsonby and there are lots of little cafes or restaurants for a
> Steinlager

Sounds good, I'm in Mt Eden and work in Queen Street so Borders is handy
for me,

> I am keen on this beer end of the month  get together. Anyway, I get
> wasted every

On a related topic - every 2nd thursday we have a curry night, a bunch of
coders and network admins, see http://thursdaynightcurry.com and
http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com - if anyone is keen for a curry and
java chat the more the merrier :)

This weeks curry is at Simla on Mt Eden Road.

> Friday and do Java during the  week, so anyone who wants to join me every

Fridays I'm often out pool'ing at Parnel ballroom...

Mark

>
>You are the sort of person we need to get things in this list moving ,
>active, or
>organizing things. It sounds like, you are enthusiasts and passion about our
>group.

Wow, I post a few messages and suddenly I'm nominated as an
organiser? I'm flattered but I must warn you that my organisational
skills don't extend much further than refactoring code.

I am, as you say, enthusiastic, and I like to go to meetings of geeks
(even if they're meetings of Java geeks and I haven't written more
than 118 lines of Java in my life) so I can be counted on to suggest
times and places and nag other people into doing the actual
organising. Friday seems like a good idea. I work in Albany so
naturally I'll wield my authority as
person-who-sione-thinks-should-organise-things and suggest that for a
venue, but Ponsonby is probably more central.

Unless of course we follow the Original Java Users Group and meet in
Borders or Dymocks. Programming books *and* coffee, what could be
better? [Books, coffee and a wireless network, that's what.]
--
Angela Brett     gazingfondly@...      http://apronyms.com/angela
            How to become a sex object: self=[[Sex alloc] init];

Angela,

Since , you are becoming regular in posting for this list, I am going to
propose your name
to Richard to take over of running our Auckland group's details of meetings,
seminars,
and so on. Richard would still be the grandmaster of directing the Auckland
group, but he can
work with you to get us moving forward.

You are the sort of person we need to get things in this list moving ,
active, or
organizing things. It sounds like, you are enthusiasts and passion about our
group.

Richard, I believe that a person like Angela, should be given such a role,
may be a full time
for  organizing monthly meetings or seminars about Java technology and stuff
like that.

What do you think guys (Mark Derricut and every one) ?

I have my 100% vote?

How about getting around once a month for a beer in Ponsonby?
I live in Ponsonby and there are lots of little cafes or restaurants for a
Steinlager
after work on the last Friday of the month for all Java enthusiasts.

I am keen on this beer end of the month  get together. Anyway, I get wasted
every
Friday and do Java during the  week, so anyone who wants to join me every
Friday or
weekend for a Java blast weekend let me know.

Sorry, I am trying to make some fun for this group.


Cheers,
Sione.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Angela Brett" <gazingfondly@...>
To: <nzjava@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nzjava] Hello


> >
> >>  "other" Java user group? You're the "other" user group, Lachlan's
group is
> >>  *The* Auckland Java Users Group. :^P
> >
> >Time to make us all one LARGE Java User Group :P
>
> I feel I need to make an apronym for LARGE since you put it in capitals:
> Let's Amalgamate Region's Geek Establishments
> --
> Angela Brett            angela@...
http://apronyms.com/angela
> "[I] am rarely happier when spending an entire day programming my computer
to
> perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten
seconds
> to do by hand" -- Douglas Adams in 'Last Chance to See...'
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> nzjava-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

So whats the topic for this upcoming event?

--On Friday, July 25, 2003 20:33:51 +1200 Angela Brett
<gazingfondly@...> wrote:

> I feel I need to make an apronym for LARGE since you put it in capitals:
>  Let's Amalgamate Region's Geek Establishments

>
>>  "other" Java user group? You're the "other" user group, Lachlan's group is
>>  *The* Auckland Java Users Group. :^P
>
>Time to make us all one LARGE Java User Group :P

I feel I need to make an apronym for LARGE since you put it in capitals:
	 Let's Amalgamate Region's Geek Establishments
--
Angela Brett            angela@...            http://apronyms.com/angela
"[I] am rarely happier when spending an entire day programming my computer to
perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds
to do by hand" -- Douglas Adams in 'Last Chance to See...'

On Friday, July 25, 2003 15:29:41 +1200 Angela Brett
<gazingfondly@...> wrote:

> "other" Java user group? You're the "other" user group, Lachlan's group is
> *The* Auckland Java Users Group. :^P

Time to make us all one LARGE Java User Group :P

Richard,

I talked to you about an Auckland Java group, at the last meeting at
Borland, and I mentioned to you , that I thought it was you who ran
this group and you said no. I think , the group is Lachlan's group.

We should make that group merge with the group at the Borland (your
Borland office).

Cheers,
Sione. Palu.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Vowles" <rvowles@...>
To: <nzjava@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nzjava] Hello


>
>
> Angela Brett wrote:
>
> >>I haven't organised another Java usergroup meeting yet, I was working
> >>with the "other" Java user group in Auckland - I contacted them and we
> >>were going to meet up at their next meeting...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >"other" Java user group? You're the "other" user group, Lachlan's group
is
> >*The* Auckland Java Users Group. :^P
> >
> >
>
> This is the NZ java users group tho, it isn't supposed to represent
> Auckland. But yes, you are right, Lauchlan's group IS the Auckland Java
> group :-)
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> nzjava-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Angela Brett wrote:

>>I haven't organised another Java usergroup meeting yet, I was working
>>with the "other" Java user group in Auckland - I contacted them and we
>>were going to meet up at their next meeting...
>>
>>
>
>"other" Java user group? You're the "other" user group, Lachlan's group is
>*The* Auckland Java Users Group. :^P
>
>

This is the NZ java users group tho, it isn't supposed to represent
Auckland. But yes, you are right, Lauchlan's group IS the Auckland Java
group :-)

> I haven't organised another Java usergroup meeting yet, I was working
> with the "other" Java user group in Auckland - I contacted them and we
> were going to meet up at their next meeting...

"other" Java user group? You're the "other" user group, Lachlan's group is
*The* Auckland Java Users Group. :^P

Hi Mark,

I haven't organised another Java usergroup meeting yet, I was working
with the "other" Java user group in Auckland - I contacted them and we
were going to meet up at their next meeting...

Richard


>
>

Hi Richard Vowles ,

When is the the next Auckland Java Group meeting?

Cheers,
Sione.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Derricutt" <mark@...>
To: <nzjava@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nzjava] Hello


> How about another meetup guys ?   Although, its only Richard reading this
> ;-)
>
> Just joined java.meetup.com ( well, created an non-paying account ), seems
> like a neat idea,
>
> Richard - have you got your blog up and running?  If so, whats the URL?
>
> Mines running over on http://talios.blog-city.com, I should really setup a
> box at work where I can host some java apps online and run blogsom or
> something...
>
>
> --On Sunday, July 13, 2003 18:31:25 +1200 Richard Vowles
> <rvowles@...> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I wish the .net mailing list had a digest mode - it is a bit much
> > when I have to just delete 30-40 emails a day... I am having fun with it
> > tho. Murray got asked by IDG to publish an article in its upcoming
> > Developer magazine about Aspect Oriented Programming as it turns out :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> nzjava-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Well hey - most people seem to have trouble getting to one, let alone more
;p  Can't police it all :p

Anyway, you go back to your Objective-C and I'll go back to my Smalltalk.

--On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 22:00:08 +1200 Angela Brett
<gazingfondly@...> wrote:

> The site says 'Java Meetups can happen in up to 545 cities worldwide
> on the same day.' Is anyone going to be policing that limit or is
> there a physical law preventing more than 545 meetups? ;)

>mark@... wants you to know about
>International Java Meetup Day.
>
>See http://java.meetup.com/ for details!

The site says 'Java Meetups can happen in up to 545 cities worldwide
on the same day.' Is anyone going to be policing that limit or is
there a physical law preventing more than 545 meetups? ;)
--
Angela Brett
angela@...
http://apronyms.com/angela

How about another meetup guys ?   Although, its only Richard reading this
;-)

Just joined java.meetup.com ( well, created an non-paying account ), seems
like a neat idea,

Richard - have you got your blog up and running?  If so, whats the URL?

Mines running over on http://talios.blog-city.com, I should really setup a
box at work where I can host some java apps online and run blogsom or
something...


--On Sunday, July 13, 2003 18:31:25 +1200 Richard Vowles
<rvowles@...> wrote:

> Yes, I wish the .net mailing list had a digest mode - it is a bit much
> when I have to just delete 30-40 emails a day... I am having fun with it
> tho. Murray got asked by IDG to publish an article in its upcoming
> Developer magazine about Aspect Oriented Programming as it turns out :-)

mark@... wants you to know about
International Java Meetup Day.

See http://java.meetup.com/ for details!

----

mark@... says:
How about another java meet up guys?  Anyone got anything to
talk on?  I was thinking I could do something on Anthill and
automated builds...

Mark Derricutt wrote:

>Its a pity ( mmm, somehow I only just noticed your reply here too ).  I've
>even started looking at Smalltalk - they seem more active than the kiwi
>java folk ;-)
>
>Now if we could just shutup the .NETers :p
>
>

Maybe it is an indication of the difficulties with the platform? Nah,
thats just being nasty :-)

Yes, I wish the .net mailing list had a digest mode - it is a bit much
when I have to just delete 30-40 emails a day... I am having fun with it
tho. Murray got asked by IDG to publish an article in its upcoming
Developer magazine about Aspect Oriented Programming as it turns out :-)

Richard

Its a pity ( mmm, somehow I only just noticed your reply here too ).  I've
even started looking at Smalltalk - they seem more active than the kiwi
java folk ;-)

Now if we could just shutup the .NETers :p


--On Monday, June 30, 2003 11:37:01 +1200 Richard Vowles
<rvowles@...> wrote:

> Not active at all, which is why I think people are subscribed to it *g*

Mark Derricutt wrote:

>Hiya :)  How active is this list?
>
>Anything interesting going on anywhere?
>
>

Not active at all, which is why I think people are subscribed to it *g*

Hiya :)  How active is this list?

Anything interesting going on anywhere?

Mark