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OK, I'll try again:

Is there ANY evidence that increasing the "surface area" exposed to
light, without increasing the light, increases algae growth rates
compared to simple raceway mixing? You know, the way people are
always talking about with "going vertical" or using "fiber optics to
disperse the light"?

Since hundreds of millions of dollars are being invested on the
assumption that this is true, it would be nice to see SOME evidence.




Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:45 pm

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OK, I'll try again: Is there ANY evidence that increasing the "surface area" exposed to light, without increasing the light, increases algae growth rates ...
Jim Bowery
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Feb 28, 2009
2:45 pm

Jim, Patrick V from this group had done some work in Austin with algae in a closed system using a cave like system to keep the algae warm and fiber optics for...
lendlabs
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Feb 28, 2009
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... There's no question sophisticated light distribution systems work. But the question at hand is whether it works substantially better than simple mixing in...
David Miller
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Feb 28, 2009
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... Worked ok compared to what?...
Jim Bowery
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Feb 28, 2009
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Jim, Sorry about that..It meet the need for light by use of reflection of the light through the media about as well as a light on both sides...CO2 is the...
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Feb 28, 2009
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[alpha 1 system] alpha 1 system test for green in lab By: lendlabs <http://profiles.yahoo.com/lendlabs> File Name: n/a Posted: Apr 15, 2008...
lendlabs
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Feb 28, 2009
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Mirror is moved to the left to show test samples.. light is limited to late PM!! This is also a c [sample study] sample study several open...
lendlabs
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Feb 28, 2009
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Dear Bruce, I have been using baking soda as carbon source to go around the complexities of dissolving bubbled CO2 in waters of different salinities and...
Ramon Macaraig
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Mar 1, 2009
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RAMON, You said Nannochloropsis, that is great green algae. I had a friend 's friend in AZ that got Rotifers in his algae and took over. Rotifers have very...
lendlabs
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Mar 1, 2009
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This might be interesting if you want to try our advanced pyramid PBR.. with O2 valve... Production of eicosapentaenoic acid by Nannochloropsis sp. cultures in...
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Mar 2, 2009
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Ramon, Your set up sounds similar to ours. One thing I would caution is that adding NaHCO3 also increases salinity. Perhaps for the time frame that you're...
Ken Liberty
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Mar 2, 2009
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Ken, Two point you need to think about... CO2 forms an acid that will unite with the base to form a salt.. with a pH of 8.5 you will remove almost 100% of the...
lendlabs
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Mar 2, 2009
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Jim, A matter of semantics. The research is focussed on diluting the light intensity, to prevent photo inhibition. Wageningen University and Researchcentre...
Marcel Geers
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Mar 2, 2009
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... light intensity, to prevent photo inhibition. My impression is that it is a matter of differing hypotheses about light-phase vs dark-phase. ... That is an...
Jim Bowery
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Mar 2, 2009
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... How is this an hypothesis? I know of light memory for future light switches connected to fiber optics, but the only thing they can do there is to make the...
Marcel Geers
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Mar 3, 2009
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Marcel, Yes, light energy can be stored in the Form of ATP.. Take 60 cycle high energy pulses from the next generation Florescent bulbs or a single wave length...
lendlabs
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Mar 3, 2009
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Photosynthesis occurs in two stages. In the first stage, light-dependent reactions or light reactions capture the energy of light and use it to make the...
Jim Bowery
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Mar 3, 2009
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Erratum: After posting I realized that the below formulae, incorrectly, assumed that the chloroplasts would be "charged" in series rather than in parallel....
Jim Bowery
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Mar 3, 2009
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... Bruce, If you take a photobioreactor (note, this is often equalled to a closed system, but this is not per definition the case) in which the light is...
Marcel Geers
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Mar 4, 2009
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Marcel, There are ponds where then have grown in High Salt alga that produced beta carotene or lutin for years.. They also produce sea salt for France.. large...
lendlabs
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Mar 4, 2009
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Marcel, I think you misunderstood what was suggested. In a raceway pond, at any one moment, most of the algae cannot "see" the sun. The algae culture exhibits...
Bobby Yates Emory
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Mar 4, 2009
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... I think I was misunderstood actually. But that doesn't matter, I think we're all on the same line :) I wanted to clarify why the increase in surface area...
Marcel Geers
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