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Algae to ethanol for 2 bucks a gallon, no extraction required




Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:34 am

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six second extraction   http://www.biodieselmagazine.com/article.jsp?article_id=2381&q=&page=all Algae to ethanol for 2 bucks a gallon, no extraction required...
Tony Rusi
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Nov 30, 2008
9:34 am

Tony, I think that is six second conversion of oil to biodiesel. But as I was reading it, with the constant references to water not being a problem, it...
Bobby Yates Emory
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Dec 1, 2008
3:09 am

... I'd have to call it doubtful, unfortunately. I'm working on a supercritical processor myself at the moment, and I can tell you that strange things happen...
David Miller
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Dec 1, 2008
3:40 am

Very interesting comments David, does the transesterification process tip the balance in energy efficiency? Would it be better to use the oil straight? I'm...
Sam Crowe
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Dec 1, 2008
10:29 pm

... Not really. The way it's usually done takes a gallon of methanol for five of biodiesel, and throws away the energy value in the glycerin. One of the nice...
David Miller
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Dec 1, 2008
10:54 pm

David I talked to a single cylinder diesel engine producer  that told me they tested a diesel engine that run SVO by heating the oil with the waste heat.  He...
Carroll Lendrum
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Dec 1, 2008
11:47 pm

... It depends on the engine you want to fuel, the oil that you have to burn, and the conditions you have around you. Biodiesel will gel at a considerably...
David Miller
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Dec 2, 2008
2:30 am

David do you have a pic of your system online somewhere?   ... From: David Miller <riley_4_prez@...> Subject: Re: [oil_from_algae] evercat six second...
Tony Rusi
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Dec 2, 2008
2:38 am

... The supercritical system? Sorry, no. It's strictly research at this point. It follows the basics of any production supercritical reactor. I say...
David Miller
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Dec 2, 2008
2:51 am

David, The Elsbett kit that I helped install on a TDI was a single tank system. (Reality note - I was only giving minor help to a factory technician - mainly...
Bobby Yates Emory
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Dec 2, 2008
4:06 am

David, From my reading and research I believe that to safely run on SVO you need an older engine design with the precombustion chambers in the head. that way...
Bill Washington
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Dec 2, 2008
6:49 am

David, From the Lister Ad (Listernoid)...SVO with #1 diesel added to reduce viscosity aka kerosene I think this is from the 2005 ad... you can also use a...
lendlabs
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Dec 2, 2008
7:46 am

Hi guys, I do have a few questions regarding a mix of 20% and 80% WVO (well filtered and centrifuged, water free): Can I use this in my Toyota Prado 3L diesel,...
Gerhard Stemmler
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Dec 3, 2008
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Gerhard, Well it is hard to compare an older design direct injection one-cylinder Lister with a Toyota Prado.. The oil used to test was cotton seed oil..very...
lendlabs
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Dec 3, 2008
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... I've never gotten into blends so I can't really say. biodiesel.infopop.cc has a section on using veggie oil with and without blending. They're a terrific...
David Miller
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Dec 3, 2008
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... Hi Gerhard, Generally the rule of thumb would be that you would make a blend that would equal or beat the viscosity of diesel at -18 C (about zero F),...
Sam Crowe
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Dec 3, 2008
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Gerhadrd, If you have installed a conversion system to heat the WVO, no problem. Bobby ... -- Toward freedom, Bobby Yates Emory...
Bobby Yates Emory
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Dec 4, 2008
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Gentlepeople, Has anyone considered having separate Diesel and WVO tanks, separate filters and blending at the pump input - the pump and injector return lines...
Bill Washington
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Dec 11, 2008
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Bill, Once the engine is hot enough to heat the WVO (or SVO), there is no point in mixing diesel with it. In most scenarios, the WVO is significantly cheaper ...
Bobby Yates Emory
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Dec 11, 2008
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Gerhard, I cannot comment on your Prado, however you are correct, the older diesel engine design with pre-combustion chambers in the head is referred to as...
Bill Washington
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Dec 11, 2008
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Umm... aren't you forgetting that wvo and svo contain a lot of glycerin & burning it produces acrolein which is a nasty carcinogen. Methanol & KOH can be...
stuback
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Dec 3, 2008
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Stuback, The rest of the quote to me is "David I talked to a single cylinder diesel engine producer that told me they tested a diesel engine that run SVO by...
lendlabs
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Dec 3, 2008
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... *Incomplete* combustion of glycerin can produce acrolein. Acrolein is probably a carcinogen. Acrolein is the smell that one instantly identifies as a...
David Miller
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Dec 3, 2008
2:37 pm

David. Slow turning semi-diesel motors that run very slow and very hot... do a good job... This is the first time anyone I know have a problem with SVO. The...
lendlabs
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Dec 3, 2008
3:18 pm

lendlabs wrote: I think this thread has wandered a very long way to get from extraction of ethanol vapors produced by algae, if they exist, to hot-bulb ...
David Miller
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Dec 3, 2008
4:43 pm

Bill, It is true that the old Mercedes engines with precombustion chambers are much more flexible about what you can feed them. With a properly done...
Bobby Yates Emory
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Dec 2, 2008
8:18 am

Just so there is no confusion. Using a "blend" (50% diesel, 50% vegoil) isn't valid replacement for a heated system. A blend is a mix, not a chemical change...
Sam Crowe
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Dec 2, 2008
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SAM, THE PROBLEM IS POLAR AND NONEPOLAR..B.BRAUNII SAMPLES WORKED VERY WELL BUT IT IS #1 DIESEL NOT #2 OR #3 USED IN THE TEST. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO NOT...
lendlabs
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Dec 2, 2008
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... VERY WELL ... WORKING ... BUT THIS ... not a ... a bit ... cloud ... Sam; I have a particular interest in people who have tested blends. Particularly...
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