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2049 mgrogue@...
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 29, 2009
9:33 pm
... Just to be clear that we aren't talking Apples and Dells, there are two separate order dependence issues. The first is the random number generator used in...
2048 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 29, 2009
6:45 pm
... I should like to have a version free of all order dependence ... Then the remaining issues would be free of order dependence. But you are the boss, Mark....
2047 mgrogue@...
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 29, 2009
1:30 pm
I have modified PFGW to do the following when a roundoff/sumout/mismatched sums error occurs during a primality test: pfgw -t -q"Phi(82730,2)" Primality...
2046 Mark Rodenkirch
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 29, 2009
11:40 am
... I will remove this today. I have not announced it officially and as long as this other issue exists in PFGW or as long as I don't improve the message when...
2045 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 29, 2009
3:13 am
... A fortiori, this recent Windoze build: http://openpfgw.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openpfgw/pfgw_win_3.2.3_20090928.zip should be now free of *all*...
2044 Mark Rodenkirch
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 29, 2009
2:14 am
... I will not make -a1 mandatory. The better option is to have PFGW tell users to use the -a switch for primality tests that fail due to rounding and sumout...
2043 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 29, 2009
12:48 am
... That is of no account, since mt19937.c would be vitiated by the indubitable order dependence on bases in the version of August 18. Conversely, a new linux...
2042 Mark Rodenkirch
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 29, 2009
12:30 am
... It is possible that that the build you have was built with the current version of that file, but I need to investigate. --Mark...
2041 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 29, 2009
12:29 am
... Not so. The switch -a1 will avoid the errors that I have reported. Videlicet: $ pfgw -tc -a1 -q"Phi(13,2^2749)/8191" ... Yet without -a1, version 3.2.2...
2040 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 29, 2009
12:04 am
... That would be helpful, please, if (and only if) it is compiled with George's mt19937.c file. Then we will be left with a clearly reproducible brokenness of...
2039 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 28, 2009
11:47 pm
... I can also break gwnum with polcyclo(13): $ pfgw -tc -q"Phi(13,2^2749)/8191" Error occuring in PFGW at Tue Sep 29 00:41:16 2009 Expr = Phi(13,2^2749)/8191 ...
2038 Mark Rodenkirch
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
11:29 pm
... I have patched the one piece of code that I had already mentioned. Steven can grab at any time and produce a build if he wants, but I would prefer that he...
2037 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 28, 2009
11:19 pm
... Thanks, George. The linux build has not changed since August 18. It would be great to have a completely order-independent linux build, with Mark's latest...
2036 George Woltman
woltman9999 Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
9:24 pm
... Yes. Alas, my laptop with MSVC and PFGW sources is in the shop. When it comes back and I have some time to investigate, I'll email you....
2035 George Woltman
woltman9999 Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
9:20 pm
... This has been gone for a while. If the file mt19937.c is in the gwnum directory then you are using the version with this fix....
2034 Phil Carmody
thefatphil Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
8:54 pm
... Depending on the exact representation used, that might just have a period-5 comb as its bit-pattern, and cause the FFTs to explode unpleasantly. It might...
2033 mgrogue@...
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
6:01 pm
... Let me amend that. PFGW does have a bug, but even with when I use the gwnum carefully routines for every iteration, it still fails. The only difference...
2032 mgrogue@...
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
5:55 pm
... This is a PFGW bug where it is not using one of gwnum's carefully routines when it is supposed to. --Mark...
2031 mgrogue@...
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
5:39 pm
... This might be an issue in PFGW. I'm investigating. --Mark...
2030 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 28, 2009
5:25 pm
... "djbroadhurst&quot; <d.broadhurst@...> wrote: Here's an even smaller gwnum-breaker: $ pfgw -t -q"Phi(12365,2)" Error occuring in PFGW at Mon Sep 28 18:18:15...
2029 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 28, 2009
4:42 pm
... Here is a third: $ pfgw -t -q"Phi(82730,2)" Error occuring in PFGW at Mon Sep 28 17:36:02 2009 Expr = Phi(82730,2) Failed at bit 30 of 32846 Msg = Detected...
2028 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 28, 2009
4:32 pm
Here, are two more ways of breaking gwnum: $ pfgw -t -q"Phi(35737,2)" Error occuring in PFGW at Mon Sep 28 17:26:30 2009 Expr = Phi(35737,2) Failed at bit 4 of...
2027 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 28, 2009
4:07 pm
... Not in the case of -tc. ... http://physics.open.ac.uk/~dbroadhu/cert/pfbug Then the linux command $ pfgw -tc -lpfbugout -N pfbug produces the output...
2026 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 28, 2009
3:48 pm
... Thanks, Mark. Now we are left with the order-dependence of George's pseudo-random number. It would be good to get rid of that too, please, George. My...
2025 George Woltman
woltman9999 Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
3:29 pm
Mark, ... Is there a PFGW option to force it to use a certain base? I need to know the command line arguments necessary to reproduce this. George...
2024 mgrogue@...
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 28, 2009
3:21 pm
... I was able to reproduce this error and fix it. This problem existed before I took over the project. I have not verified if it was in 1.4 (the version for...
2023 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 28, 2009
3:15 pm
... With x = 2^7331, we have a very regular binary pattern for 151*Phi(109965,2) = x^8 - x^7 + x^5 - x^4 + x^3 - x + 1. Perhaps it was this that enabled me to...
2022 harvey563 Send Email Sep 28, 2009
3:00 am
I have reproduced the error under Ubuntu 9.04. Primality testing Phi(109965,2) [N-1/N+1, Brillhart-Lehmer-Selfridge] Running N-1 test using base 227 Running...
2021 djbroadhurst Send Email Sep 27, 2009
9:57 pm
... George needs to note that the failed exponentiation ... There are two factors that make it very tedious to recover this (undoubtedly reproducible) error: ...
2020 Mark Rodenkirch
mgrogue Send Email
Sep 27, 2009
8:39 pm
... The roundoff error is most likely and issue with gwnum, but I will investigate on my end. George, could you look into it on your end? The issue with...
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