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Re: [opml-dev] OPML 1.1

Rogers, thanks for kicking off the restart of this list. And thanks to everyone
else for not objecting to the newly stated charter. I'm optimistic about our
being able to get work done this time around. I'm willing to use the tools that
Yahoo provides to keep the list on-topic. There are over 170 subscribers [1],
which is quite a lot, so it's potentially a very powerful community. My hope is
that we can have something like the Berkman-Thursdays group at Harvard Law
School, where we have a high standard of achievement and cooperation and we get
things done. That group organized a conference and hosted over 200 people on two
days. That's what can be done if people have a will to work together.

Anyway, Rogers, I will take your notes on OPML 1.1 and turn them into a document
on the opml.org website. I'm also going to move that site off the UserLand host
and put it on one of the new servers I have running here in the Boston area.
Also once the OPML 1.1 spec is adequately reviewed, I will transfer it to
Berkman Center, as I did with the RSS 2.0 spec, and redistribute it under the
Creative Commons license.

Another area that needs attention is to sort out the common uses of attributes
in different tools. Since this is XML, names are case-sensitive. And there is
even some variability beyond that. The first step should be to survey all the
existing tools, see what they produce and then collate the results. Then, once
that's done, it may be possible to have a simple set of recommendations that
enables more interop between tools. But first we have to see how far apart all
the tools actually are. I'll get the ball rolling on this, unless someone else
wants to take the lead. It's not a glamorous job, it requires that one be
thorough and be good at tabulating information.

Dave

PS: I've cc'd this to the Berkman-Thursday list, in case any of you want to
participate in the restart of the OPML developers list.

[1] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/opml-dev/

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I'm doing a lot of work with OPML and want to start discussing it with other developers. So this is a heads-up, if you don't want to talk about applications,...
Dave Winer
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Nov 30, 2003
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Glad to see the list firing up again. One of the first things we should address is the spec, which hasn't been updated to OPML 1.1, the current version in...
Rogers Cadenhead
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Dec 1, 2003
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Rogers, thanks for kicking off the restart of this list. And thanks to everyone else for not objecting to the newly stated charter. I'm optimistic about our...
Dave Winer
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Dec 2, 2003
7:52 pm

... Dave: AmphetaDesk was the first application to take the mySubscriptions.opml of Radio Userland and adopt it for it's own channel list. NetNewsWire followed...
Morbus Iff
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Dec 2, 2003
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... It appears that Radio creates both text and title attributes for RSS feed titles. -- Rogers Cadenhead, rogers@... on 12/3/2003 Weblog:...
Rogers Cadenhead
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Dec 3, 2003
6:43 pm

Hi Dave ... Per an old thread on this list, I started and posted an OPML document that contains this sort of info. It still lives at : ...
Stan Krute
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Dec 2, 2003
8:42 pm

Howdy I've incorporated the OPML usage info noted in this thread by: Rogers Cadenhead, Morbus Iff, Brent Simmons, Mark Fletcher, and Øyvind Kolås ... into...
Stan@...
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Dec 22, 2003
11:07 pm

... When importing OPML files, here's what Bloglines does: For every 'outline' tag after the opening tag, we do: We look for the 'xmlurl' attribute. If we find...
Mark Fletcher
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Dec 2, 2003
9:13 pm

... I think it would be worth having authors catalog what their software *outputs* as well. It's (somewhat) fine to accept any case tags, but OPML is specified...
Jeremy Bowers
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Dec 3, 2003
2:26 am

... Clarification: By "catalog what their software outputs" I mean actual specifications and promises, not just example OPML files their system outputs....
Jeremy Bowers
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Dec 3, 2003
2:35 am

Excellent. That's exactly the kind of report we need. Since Brent went next, maybe he could explain how he uses OPML, in a style similar to this explanation....
Dave Winer
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Dec 2, 2003
8:17 pm

Stan that looks very useful. Could you add Morbus's info to that. I think people should post their reports to the list, as long as it isn't overwhelming, and...
Dave Winer
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Dec 2, 2003
8:59 pm

Hi Dave ... Yes. ... Sounds fine. Info on elements and attributes that are supported or not supported, and elements and attributes that a particular tool has...
Stan Krute
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Dec 2, 2003
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NetNewsWire imports and exports OPML subscriptions lists. It doesn't currently understand nested subscriptions lists, but that will change. (It will both...
Brent Simmons
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Dec 2, 2003
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It's true that examples aren't specs, but beggars can't be choosers. I'll take whatever information I can get in whatever form. Let's be detectives. I don't...
Dave Winer
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Dec 3, 2003
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