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Re: [opml-dev] OPML 1.1

Excellent. That's exactly the kind of report we need. Since Brent went next,
maybe he could explain how he uses OPML, in a style similar to this explanation.
Since he's not subscribed to OPML-DEV, I've cc'd him. Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Morbus Iff
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [opml-dev] OPML 1.1


>Another area that needs attention is to sort out the common uses of
>attributes in different tools. Since this is XML, names are case-sensitive.
>And there is even some variability beyond that. The first step should be to
>survey all the existing tools, see what they produce and then collate the
>results. Then, once that's done, it may be possible to have a simple set of

Dave: AmphetaDesk was the first application to take the
mySubscriptions.opml of Radio Userland and adopt it for it's own
channel list. NetNewsWire followed thereafter. I haven't been
near AmphetaDesk for a while, but off the top of my head:

* I hate innerCaps, so I write attributes lowercase. I read both.

* I believe you had "text=" as the title of the RSS feed. I
use "title=", but the code converts "text" to "title".

* Any attributes that AmphetaDesk doesn't explicitly use
are read and written as if I did. Likewise, I provide
an API to get at that "unused" data.

More info, including sample OPML output is here:
http://disobey.com/amphetadesk/pod_amphetadesk_mychannels.html

I believe I've added two or three attributes not part
of the original mySubscriptions.opml files I've seen:

* filename: internal use for AmphetaDesk.
* date_downloaded and _added. self explanatatory.
* email: the nearest approximation to the
channel's email address, if any.


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Tue Dec 2, 2003 8:17 pm

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I'm doing a lot of work with OPML and want to start discussing it with other developers. So this is a heads-up, if you don't want to talk about applications,...
Dave Winer
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Nov 30, 2003
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Glad to see the list firing up again. One of the first things we should address is the spec, which hasn't been updated to OPML 1.1, the current version in...
Rogers Cadenhead
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Dec 1, 2003
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Rogers, thanks for kicking off the restart of this list. And thanks to everyone else for not objecting to the newly stated charter. I'm optimistic about our...
Dave Winer
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Dec 2, 2003
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... Dave: AmphetaDesk was the first application to take the mySubscriptions.opml of Radio Userland and adopt it for it's own channel list. NetNewsWire followed...
Morbus Iff
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Dec 2, 2003
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... It appears that Radio creates both text and title attributes for RSS feed titles. -- Rogers Cadenhead, rogers@... on 12/3/2003 Weblog:...
Rogers Cadenhead
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Dec 3, 2003
6:43 pm

Hi Dave ... Per an old thread on this list, I started and posted an OPML document that contains this sort of info. It still lives at : ...
Stan Krute
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Dec 2, 2003
8:42 pm

Howdy I've incorporated the OPML usage info noted in this thread by: Rogers Cadenhead, Morbus Iff, Brent Simmons, Mark Fletcher, and Øyvind Kolås ... into...
Stan@...
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Dec 22, 2003
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... When importing OPML files, here's what Bloglines does: For every 'outline' tag after the opening tag, we do: We look for the 'xmlurl' attribute. If we find...
Mark Fletcher
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Dec 2, 2003
9:13 pm

... I think it would be worth having authors catalog what their software *outputs* as well. It's (somewhat) fine to accept any case tags, but OPML is specified...
Jeremy Bowers
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Dec 3, 2003
2:26 am

... Clarification: By "catalog what their software outputs" I mean actual specifications and promises, not just example OPML files their system outputs....
Jeremy Bowers
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Dec 3, 2003
2:35 am

Excellent. That's exactly the kind of report we need. Since Brent went next, maybe he could explain how he uses OPML, in a style similar to this explanation....
Dave Winer
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Dec 2, 2003
8:17 pm

Stan that looks very useful. Could you add Morbus's info to that. I think people should post their reports to the list, as long as it isn't overwhelming, and...
Dave Winer
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Dec 2, 2003
8:59 pm

Hi Dave ... Yes. ... Sounds fine. Info on elements and attributes that are supported or not supported, and elements and attributes that a particular tool has...
Stan Krute
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Dec 2, 2003
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NetNewsWire imports and exports OPML subscriptions lists. It doesn't currently understand nested subscriptions lists, but that will change. (It will both...
Brent Simmons
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Dec 2, 2003
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It's true that examples aren't specs, but beggars can't be choosers. I'll take whatever information I can get in whatever form. Let's be detectives. I don't...
Dave Winer
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