I know it's not addressed to me, but I have a smartass answer. http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=common%20sense Dave ... From: "Jeff Mitchell"...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 28, 2002 7:50 pm
Or try this.. http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=street%20smarts Dave ... From: "Dave Winer" <dave@...> To: <opml-dev@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday,...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 8:24 pm
... Why is a smartass answer needed? [aside: Agreed, a smartass answer *is* always needed :P] I'm illustrating a large failing in OPML. Since I bring it up, ...
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Stan Krute
stan_krute
Sep 28, 2002 8:28 pm
... his ... Thanks Dave. I added it to OPML_Tools.opml...
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Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Sep 28, 2002 8:29 pm
... Honestly, I *like* OPML as a format. It's super-easy to parse, and I think the ability for you to add attributes of any kind is a feature, not a ...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 28, 2002 8:29 pm
Maybe you should start a new mail list and take these problems with you. But if you do -- puh-leeeze don't call what you do OPML. Thanks. BTW, the arguing will...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 8:37 pm
OPML never claims to really be open. Perhaps it should be, or if not, an open-OPML needs to be defined. In the Spec, I note: Under "Goals of the OPML format": ...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 8:40 pm
... I never said you should not be able to add attributes ad hoc. I do say that if you want to use a "target date" attribute, you and I shoudl both use the...
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Stan Krute
stan_krute
Sep 28, 2002 8:42 pm
OPML works quite well for many of us. Jeff: Unsolicited suggestion: Figure out what attributes you'd like to use in your OPML files, implement support for them...
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Stan Krute
stan_krute
Sep 28, 2002 8:42 pm
OPML works quite well for many of us. Jeff: Unsolicited suggestion: Figure out what attributes you'd like to use in your OPML files, implement support for them...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 8:42 pm
... Ahh, so OPML is *not* an open format, nor meant to be used as an interchange between applications? ... OKay. ITs fair. We all work killer hours per day, so...
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Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Sep 28, 2002 8:49 pm
... I'm making a rare assumption that someone who codes a piece of software is going to do some research into what other people are doing in the same field. We...
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Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Sep 28, 2002 8:52 pm
... For what's it worth, I have documented the attributes used in "rss subs" OPML files. They've been living at the below URL for about two years now. ...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 8:53 pm
... Sure. But why not look ahead to the future? OKay, I'm looking for an Outliner XML standard that allows peopel to exchange useful outliners beyond simple...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 8:59 pm
... Wouldn't it be nice to look at the spec for such things? My previous example: HTML is everywhere. Why? (OKay, at first it grew like wildfire because it was...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 9:01 pm
... Great. I see two people at least are keeping lists of these attributes. Two separate sources of truth. This leads to confusion and error. So for someone...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 9:12 pm
OKay, so OPML is meant to be a data interchange format. Defining attributes would be a great step forward for it, but it would be a lot of work for someone to...
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Stan Krute
stan_krute
Sep 28, 2002 9:33 pm
... a ... I'd suggest at least one more case choice: you're not an idiot, and it's not a right/wrong question, it's a 'can I code the data I wish to code...
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Stan Krute
stan_krute
Sep 28, 2002 9:39 pm
... Cool. I'll suck that info into OPML_Elements_and_Attributes.opml stan...
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Danny Ayers
danny_ayers
Sep 28, 2002 9:45 pm
... I think that's a good idea - OPML is very good for what it does, but to extend utility in this domain I reckon a fresh start would be the best approach to...
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Danny Ayers
danny_ayers
Sep 28, 2002 9:45 pm
... You might as well add Ideagraph - import/export to OPML is near the top of the list, though I'm still working on the mappings. http://ideagraph.net Cheers,...
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 9:51 pm
... Do you have a DTD/spec for your file? If we had a spec for your file, and a link to it from the OPML spec to make it authoritative, it coudl suit our...
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Danny Ayers
danny_ayers
Sep 28, 2002 9:53 pm
The solution to having many different, potentially conflicting attributes and/or elements has already been solved : namespaces....
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Jeff Mitchell
coogfoo
Sep 28, 2002 9:58 pm
... That is not a solution; that is a mechanism of the solution. We still need a common extension repository. I don't think we need another mailing list or...
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Stan Krute
stan_krute
Sep 28, 2002 10:04 pm
... Done. Thanks. Lemme know if anything in the listing is incorrect....
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Stan Krute
stan_krute
Sep 28, 2002 10:20 pm
Jeff Mitchell ... I don't. Good thought. Added to my Do List. May be a coupla weeks before getting to it. If someone wants to do it sooner, DTD/spec away. ... ...
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Danny Ayers
danny_ayers
Sep 28, 2002 10:56 pm
... (oops - I meant the problem has been solved) ... Ok, I think I misunderstood your purpose. ... Ok, collating all the extensions in use might well be...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 28, 2002 10:58 pm
I can't believe the amount of pure drivel one idiot can post in a couple of hours. Dave ... From: "Jeff Mitchell" <skeezix@...> To:...
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webjavapro
Oct 21, 2002 12:16 pm
HOWDY We had been using www.iliumsoft.com ListPro for PDA & Win32, but I'm thrilled to discover a non-proprietary file format for outliners exists, which can...
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Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher
Oct 22, 2002 4:29 pm
... W3C ... of ... Mozilla already supports XSLT. var xslProcessor = new XSLTProcessor(); var outputDoc = document.implementation.createDocument ("text/xml",...
