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Good morning! First, I'd like to ask that the contents of this email be kept private for now, I'm working on something new, that should be of interest, and the...
Dave Winer
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Feb 28, 2006
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Welcome to Sean Lyndersay from Microsoft and Kevin Burton from TailLink, the first to accept the invitation to this group (Niall Kennedy has been helping me...
Dave Winer
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Feb 28, 2006
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Here's the pointer to the draft spec. http://www.opml.org/stories/storyReader$270 All the caveats and disclaimers apply. Dave...
Dave Winer
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... Hey Dave. Thanks for the invite. This looks reallly good but I just have a few constructive thoughts: " Every outline element must have at least a *text*...
Kevin Burton
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Feb 28, 2006
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... I don't know much about helping with the technical aspects, but the promise of 2.0 is quite apparent with your examples. My only note is that you might ...
Chris Pirillo
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Feb 28, 2006
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An outliner may be able to do something with a \r or \n, in any case, it can easily not display them, so I don't really want to make a special provision for...
Dave Winer
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1. A <head> contains zero or more optional elements, described below A <head> contains zero or more optional elements, described below. No child element of...
Dan MacTough
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Feb 28, 2006
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Welcome to a bunch of new reviewers this morning. Here's the pointer to the draft spec. http://www.opml.org/stories/storyReader$270 All the caveats and...
Dave Winer
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Feb 28, 2006
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Dan, thanks for your feedback. Very useful stuff. 1. Rather than make the initial statement in the head section more complicated, I added a Note, number 7,...
Dave Winer
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Feb 28, 2006
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A couple notes... 1. In the final spec we might want to make a point that attribute names are case-sensitive. This is just because there's some confusion in...
Brent Simmons
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Feb 28, 2006
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... I agree that textIsMarkup is a good idea. Will it matter that the *type* of markup is not specified? I've always assumed that the text is *not* markup, as...
Brent Simmons
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Feb 28, 2006
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... In case that's confusing -- "rather than HTML" is what I meant. -Brent...
Brent Simmons
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Feb 28, 2006
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The OPML 2.0 spec looks good - great to see ideas that have been discussed this past year becoming part of a formal spec. There are three areas of the spec...
Bela Labovitch
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Feb 28, 2006
7:44 pm
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I agree. This is good, especially formalizing Subscription Lists into the OPML spec. One thought is that is to drop (deprecate) the title attribute, since, as...
Sean Lyndersay
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Feb 28, 2006
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I agree that the wording about 'title' is unclear. My understanding is that 'title' would be the actual title element from the feed, while 'text' would be the...
Nick Bradbury
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Feb 28, 2006
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First a disclaimer -- these are my thoughts, not spec text. Unfortunately it's necessary for me to say that. :-( Nick, you got it right, except I don't think...
Dave Winer
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Feb 28, 2006
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Sean, see my response to Nick for an explanation of the purpose of title. I think however, I should expand the section on subscription lists, given that it's...
Dave Winer
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Feb 28, 2006
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Bela, thanks for the comments. I'm working through these in reverse order for some reason. Brent's are next. :-) 1. I agree that the subscription lists section...
Dave Winer
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Mar 1, 2006
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Brent, thanks for the comments. 1. See my note to Bela about this case-sensitivity in names. 2. Interesting point about aggregators and directories with links...
Dave Winer
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Mar 1, 2006
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Interesting, and that makes sense, but in my world, I have to assume that text contains markup, because my users are using the outliner for (among other...
Dave Winer
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I have a bias toward assuming plain text -- but there's nothing specially compelling about that, it's just a personal bias. If assuming markup makes more...
Brent Simmons
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Mar 1, 2006
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I've just made a bunch of changes in response to the feedback here, especially in the area of subscription lists. http://www.opml.org/stories/storyReader$270 ...
Dave Winer
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Mar 1, 2006
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Cool, I'll give this some more thought. Maybe this time the encoding wonks, who may be tired of being drags on progress (I'm getting the feeling that's what's...
Dave Winer
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Mar 1, 2006
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Dave, This most recent version looks very understandable and good to go to me. -Bela Dave Winer <dave.winer@...> wrote: I've just made a bunch of changes...
Bela Labovitch
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Mar 1, 2006
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I'm going to post an edited version of the email I sent to you all and open this mail list to the public tomorrow morning. If you want to write about OPML 2.0...
Dave Winer
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Mar 1, 2006
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Dave. Another issue. Is it possible to do OPML autodiscovery. I'm not 100% sure what this would mean though. Is the OPML file a list of your feeds or an ...
Kevin Burton
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Mar 1, 2006
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Hi folks, I sat down tonight with printouts of the version 1.0 and draft version 2.0 specs, and also read through the mails that have come through since I...
Andrew Grumet
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Mar 1, 2006
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Another idea... should OPML support associating images with an outline? Favicons come to mind here. Just an idea... I might do that with TailRank's OPML. Might...
Kevin Burton
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Mar 1, 2006
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Andrew, that's a key point, and it came up earlier, when Dan MacTough made what has been a common request, that the spec list all the node types. I said that I...
Dave Winer
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Mar 1, 2006
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... We hit the reverse problem with OPML import into Technorati favorites - we use the blog homepage URL as the primary, and several OPML files had mismatches...
Kevin Marks
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