make sure you are using the same midi channel on your keyboard that you are
viewing in the piano roll.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Zincar" <bereta50@...>
To: <orion-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: [orion-users] VST instument edit problem


> I have a problem with some VST instruments.One of them being the
> Cheeze Machine, ita a free ware sinth i got off the the web a wile
> back. Its got some nice pad sounds.
> Anyway the problem is that when I record my selfe paly I do not see
> the notes or anything in the edit window when I go back to edit, I
> can hear every thing just as I have playd it.
> Does any one know why and how I can fix this.
>
> Thanx
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

>> Are you sure you're recording to the right midi channel? Are you
>using easy
>> or advanced midi mode? Try checking the midi channel dropdown in
>the
>> pianoroll if you can find your notes from a another midi channel
>than the
>> default 1.
>>
>> // Jouni
>>
>> --
>>  Jouni Airaksinen // www.markvera.net
>>  www.spacesynth.net the place where spacesynth scene meets!
>
>I use OrionPro , and I record by pressing the record buton and then
>the play buton on the top left. Is that not how its done?
>I did check all 16 channels and I had no luck .
>

Also all octaves in the view as you need to scroll to see all notes?

Song or pattern mode? Notes or events (knobs)?

Orion Pro 5?

Sorry for "dumb" questions. :)

You are recording the way it is ment to.

// Jouni

--
  Jouni Airaksinen // www.markvera.net
  www.spacesynth.net the place where spacesynth scene meets!

--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Jouni Airaksinen"
<markvera@s...> wrote:
>
>
> >--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Zincar" <bereta50@y...>
> >wrote:
> >> I have a problem with some VST instruments.One of them being
the
> >> Cheeze Machine, ita a free ware sinth i got off the the web a
wile
> >> back. Its got some nice pad sounds.
> >> Anyway the problem is that when I record my selfe paly I do not
see
> >> the notes or anything in the edit window when I go back to
edit, I
> >> can hear every thing just as I have playd it.
> >> Does any one know why and how I can fix this.
> >
> >Which version of Orion? And HOW exactly do you record?
> >
> >Rich
> >
>
> Are you sure you're recording to the right midi channel? Are you
using easy
> or advanced midi mode? Try checking the midi channel dropdown in
the
> pianoroll if you can find your notes from a another midi channel
than the
> default 1.
>
> // Jouni
>
> --
>  Jouni Airaksinen // www.markvera.net
>  www.spacesynth.net the place where spacesynth scene meets!

I use OrionPro , and I record by pressing the record buton and then
the play buton on the top left. Is that not how its done?
I did check all 16 channels and I had no luck .

>--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Zincar" <bereta50@y...>
>wrote:
>> I have a problem with some VST instruments.One of them being the
>> Cheeze Machine, ita a free ware sinth i got off the the web a wile
>> back. Its got some nice pad sounds.
>> Anyway the problem is that when I record my selfe paly I do not see
>> the notes or anything in the edit window when I go back to edit, I
>> can hear every thing just as I have playd it.
>> Does any one know why and how I can fix this.
>
>Which version of Orion? And HOW exactly do you record?
>
>Rich
>

Are you sure you're recording to the right midi channel? Are you using easy
or advanced midi mode? Try checking the midi channel dropdown in the
pianoroll if you can find your notes from a another midi channel than the
default 1.

// Jouni

--
  Jouni Airaksinen // www.markvera.net
  www.spacesynth.net the place where spacesynth scene meets!

--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Zincar" <bereta50@y...>
wrote:
> I have a problem with some VST instruments.One of them being the
> Cheeze Machine, ita a free ware sinth i got off the the web a wile
> back. Its got some nice pad sounds.
> Anyway the problem is that when I record my selfe paly I do not see
> the notes or anything in the edit window when I go back to edit, I
> can hear every thing just as I have playd it.
> Does any one know why and how I can fix this.

Which version of Orion? And HOW exactly do you record?

Rich

I have a problem with some VST instruments.One of them being the
Cheeze Machine, ita a free ware sinth i got off the the web a wile
back. Its got some nice pad sounds.
Anyway the problem is that when I record my selfe paly I do not see
the notes or anything in the edit window when I go back to edit, I
can hear every thing just as I have playd it.
Does any one know why and how I can fix this.

Thanx

Well thanks again - I guess a combination of stupidity, laziness and
doubt on my part prevented me from figuring this out. This will make
my work with the drum machine go much faster...

Cheers,

e.

--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Jouni Airaksinen" <markvera@s...>
wrote:
> You can do the copying in pianoroll mode. Select the notes (in mapped
> mode you have all the drum hit notes in one view) hold ctrl and drag
> with mouse to make copy of the selection.
>
>
> >Thanks, Jouni; obvious now, and exactly how I will get the benefit
> >from it - I often make 64(+) bar patterns with VSTi's etc; pity you
> >can't seem to  copy the current pattern onto the next bar before
> >changing it around a bit. Still, very very useful
> >
> >e.
> >
> >--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Jouni Airaksinen" <markvera@s...>
> >wrote:
> >> Basically the bars switch just moves the edit offset to different
> >position in
> >> the pattern. So change the pattern size into 32, 48 or 64 from the
> >default 16
> >> (well, you can use non 16 sizes too). Then put this long pattern
> >into the
> >> playlist. With bar switch 1 you can edit 1-16, with 2 you can edit
> >17-32,
> >> with 3 you can edit 33-48 and with 4 you can edit 49-64. So it's
> >like having
> >> "4 patterns in one".
> >>
> >> >Hi all:
> >> >
> >> >I see that the drums generator has the ability to switch between
bars,
> >> >but I don't understand how to use this feature - how do you tell the
> >> >song playlist which bar to use? I would like to add some bars to
some
> >> >earlier (pre v. 5) efforts, but can't accomplish this goal.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >e.
>
>
> // Jouni
>
> --
>  Jouni Airaksinen // www.markvera.net
>  www.spacesynth.net the place where spacesynth scene meets!

Kai,

You may wish to post this to the Synapse Software forum at:

http://www.synapse-audio.com/forum

Cheers,

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "kai_yaker" <kai_yak@...>
To: <orion-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:37 AM
Subject: [orion-users] ChannelGrabber advice needed


> Hello,
>
> Could somebody give me some advice as what i am doing wrong with
> tobybear channelgrabber. i am trying to record my guitar in synch
> with my orion track. I know orion now as a similiar function but i
> will upgrade only this summer.
>
> This is my setup.
>
> Orion Pro 5.0
> Channelgrabber  1,3 and 2.0
> Sb live ( I know ;p )
>
> Channelgrabber 1.3
>
> I put channelgrabber in sync mode then i press record and kbytes
> written stays a 0. Then when i press play in orion the kbytes start
> going up like its recording but when i press stop it gives my this
> message: "dateizugriff verweigert" and When i try to play the wave
> file it says data corupted.
> In the live mode i get to record from my sound card but i cant get
> orion and channelgrabber to start syncronized.
>
> Channelgrabber 2.0
>
> In this version i cannot record anything because there i cant find
> the input selector (live/synch).
>
> I also tried to synch it by using a midi out generator. I set channel
> grabber to receive midi from midi out generator. Channelgrabber says
> it is receiving c-2 but it does not go in record mode.
>
> Maybe i need to change some sb live settings.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kai
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Hello,

Could somebody give me some advice as what i am doing wrong with
tobybear channelgrabber. i am trying to record my guitar in synch
with my orion track. I know orion now as a similiar function but i
will upgrade only this summer.

This is my setup.

Orion Pro 5.0
Channelgrabber  1,3 and 2.0
Sb live ( I know ;p )

Channelgrabber 1.3

I put channelgrabber in sync mode then i press record and kbytes
written stays a 0. Then when i press play in orion the kbytes start
going up like its recording but when i press stop it gives my this
message: "dateizugriff verweigert" and When i try to play the wave
file it says data corupted.
In the live mode i get to record from my sound card but i cant get
orion and channelgrabber to start syncronized.

Channelgrabber 2.0

In this version i cannot record anything because there i cant find
the input selector (live/synch).

I also tried to synch it by using a midi out generator. I set channel
grabber to receive midi from midi out generator. Channelgrabber says
it is receiving c-2 but it does not go in record mode.

Maybe i need to change some sb live settings.

Thanks!

Kai

--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "John Back" <jback@n...> wrote:


Thanks


Zvon






> Yeah man, just look in the help under 'T'


>


> It's in the built-in generators note editing sheet - down the bottom
you


> select T-Sliders and it comes up.


>


> Recommend you read the help on it 1st...


>


> Cheers,


>


> -John


> ----- Original Message -----


> From: "zvontr" <zvontr@y...>


> To: <orion-users@yahoogroups.com>


> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:22 PM


> Subject: [orion-users] T slider


>


>


> > Hi everyone,


> >


> >


> > Just downloaded Orion Plat 5.2 and can't find that T slider.


> >


> >


> > Does anyone know what it is? where is it?


> >


> >


> >


> >


> > Thanks


> >


> >


> >


> >


> > Zvon


> >


> >


> >


> >


> >


> > Yahoo! Groups Links


> >


> >


> >


> >


> >

Yeah man, just look in the help under 'T'

It's in the built-in generators note editing sheet - down the bottom you
select T-Sliders and it comes up.

Recommend you read the help on it 1st...

Cheers,

-John
----- Original Message -----
From: "zvontr" <zvontr@...>
To: <orion-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: [orion-users] T slider


> Hi everyone,
>
>
> Just downloaded Orion Plat 5.2 and can't find that T slider.
>
>
> Does anyone know what it is? where is it?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> Zvon
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Hi everyone,


Just downloaded Orion Plat 5.2 and can't find that T slider.


Does anyone know what it is? where is it?




Thanks




Zvon

You can do the copying in pianoroll mode. Select the notes (in mapped
mode you have all the drum hit notes in one view) hold ctrl and drag
with mouse to make copy of the selection.


>Thanks, Jouni; obvious now, and exactly how I will get the benefit
>from it - I often make 64(+) bar patterns with VSTi's etc; pity you
>can't seem to  copy the current pattern onto the next bar before
>changing it around a bit. Still, very very useful
>
>e.
>
>--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Jouni Airaksinen" <markvera@s...>
>wrote:
>> Basically the bars switch just moves the edit offset to different
>position in
>> the pattern. So change the pattern size into 32, 48 or 64 from the
>default 16
>> (well, you can use non 16 sizes too). Then put this long pattern
>into the
>> playlist. With bar switch 1 you can edit 1-16, with 2 you can edit
>17-32,
>> with 3 you can edit 33-48 and with 4 you can edit 49-64. So it's
>like having
>> "4 patterns in one".
>>
>> >Hi all:
>> >
>> >I see that the drums generator has the ability to switch between bars,
>> >but I don't understand how to use this feature - how do you tell the
>> >song playlist which bar to use? I would like to add some bars to some
>> >earlier (pre v. 5) efforts, but can't accomplish this goal.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >e.


// Jouni

--
  Jouni Airaksinen // www.markvera.net
  www.spacesynth.net the place where spacesynth scene meets!

Thanks, Jouni; obvious now, and exactly how I will get the benefit
from it - I often make 64(+) bar patterns with VSTi's etc; pity you
can't seem to  copy the current pattern onto the next bar before
changing it around a bit. Still, very very useful

e.

--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Jouni Airaksinen" <markvera@s...>
wrote:
> Basically the bars switch just moves the edit offset to different
position in
> the pattern. So change the pattern size into 32, 48 or 64 from the
default 16
> (well, you can use non 16 sizes too). Then put this long pattern
into the
> playlist. With bar switch 1 you can edit 1-16, with 2 you can edit
17-32,
> with 3 you can edit 33-48 and with 4 you can edit 49-64. So it's
like having
> "4 patterns in one".
>
> >Hi all:
> >
> >I see that the drums generator has the ability to switch between bars,
> >but I don't understand how to use this feature - how do you tell the
> >song playlist which bar to use? I would like to add some bars to some
> >earlier (pre v. 5) efforts, but can't accomplish this goal.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >e.


>
>
> // Jouni
>
> --
>  Jouni Airaksinen // www.markvera.net
>  www.spacesynth.net the place where spacesynth scene meets!

Basically the bars switch just moves the edit offset to different position in
the pattern. So change the pattern size into 32, 48 or 64 from the default 16
(well, you can use non 16 sizes too). Then put this long pattern into the
playlist. With bar switch 1 you can edit 1-16, with 2 you can edit 17-32,
with 3 you can edit 33-48 and with 4 you can edit 49-64. So it's like having
"4 patterns in one".

>Hi all:
>
>I see that the drums generator has the ability to switch between bars,
>but I don't understand how to use this feature - how do you tell the
>song playlist which bar to use? I would like to add some bars to some
>earlier (pre v. 5) efforts, but can't accomplish this goal.
>
>Thanks,
>
>e.


// Jouni

--
  Jouni Airaksinen // www.markvera.net
  www.spacesynth.net the place where spacesynth scene meets!

Hi all:

I see that the drums generator has the ability to switch between bars,
but I don't understand how to use this feature - how do you tell the
song playlist which bar to use? I would like to add some bars to some
earlier (pre v. 5) efforts, but can't accomplish this goal.

Thanks,

e.

Brian,

I recommend posting your query over on the Syapse website forums.  I haven't
done any external midi gear stuff myself, though I know others have.  I
guess your other question depends on the format the drum loops are in, but I
recommend just downloading the demo and trying it for yourself.  It will
probably be a piece of cake.

-John

----- Original Message -----
From: "brian" <the27enigma@...>
To: <orion-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:23 AM
Subject: [orion-users] few quick questions before i buy orion


> hey guys. i rmeber using orion a couple years ago when it was still
> sonic syndacate. i liked the user interface and the generaters. now
> i need a program that can also sequence some external midi gear. i
> know orion can, has anyone had any experiences they would like to
> share about this? also have some sampled drum loops i would like to
> use. is the internal sampler appropriate for this?. any insight
> would be good.
>
> thanks
>
> brian

hey guys. i rmeber using orion a couple years ago when it was still
sonic syndacate. i liked the user interface and the generaters. now
i need a program that can also sequence some external midi gear. i
know orion can, has anyone had any experiences they would like to
share about this? also have some sampled drum loops i would like to
use. is the internal sampler appropriate for this?. any insight
would be good.

thanks

brian

Rich,

Obviously, the decision has already been made (and supported by the
masses); but...

1) I belong to about 28 email groups and receive DIGESTS for all of them
(except the ones I own)
          1a) Digests ARE email messages
2) I do not have the time required to check up on 28+ different web site
based forums
3) The contents of my email box always gets top priority
4) I have read almost every Orion digest I have ever received
5) I have not read a single post at the new Orion web site based forum

For the record, I would love to receive a daily digest (via email) of all
new postings to the forum.

Just offering one man's reality..  :-)

-Soren.

>All correct but ... when I look at the subscription stats,
>only 10% here use emailing, all others digest or web!
>
>Even I stopped using emails at least a year ago, because
>it turned out to be more practical to read from anywhere,
>rather than having a constant flood in the mailbox, piling
>up...well it's a matter of taste and habit really.
>
>Rich


Forbidden Songs For Fallen Souls @ www.ForbiddenSongs.com

All correct but ... when I look at the subscription stats,
only 10% here use emailing, all others digest or web!

Even I stopped using emails at least a year ago, because
it turned out to be more practical to read from anywhere,
rather than having a constant flood in the mailbox, piling
up...well it's a matter of taste and habit really.

Rich


--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce M. Walker" <bmw@m...> > I
subscribed to this mail-list when "perfectly good" BB alternatives
exist
> because ... I *like* email.  Email is PUSH technology.  The
messages come to me
> without my having to remember to specifically go and look.  Here's
an example:
> J. Random Musician discovers a kewl new effect and posts a note to
the
> mailing-list.  I'm at work and I see the msg arrive and I say, "Oh
kewl!  I'll
> remember that idea and save it in my Orion folder to look at in a
few days when
> I get a chance and I'm in the mood."
>
> BB is PULL technology: I have to actively login to the BB and seek
stuff.  With
> the my example, J.R.M. posts to the Orion BB, which I will never
see because I'm
> at work and I don't have multiple tabs in my browser open to all
the dumb little
> music BB's there are out there: Orion, Acid, Cubase, ... constantly
hitting
> refresh to see if anything changed ...
>
> If there was only a single BB where all the information I need is
posted, this
> could work.  But I use several products, which means several BBs,
plus I'm an IT
> professional, so I'm on at least 20 other mailing-lists which I use
filters to
> categorize as info arrives.  I can't do any of these things with
BBs--they can't
> be automated.  My mail-reader is the center of my info-universe.
>
> Now, if the BB had an email gateway so that messages posted there
also went out
> via email, and vice versa, I'd be happy with that.
>
> Anyway, as things stand, since everyone on orion-users seems to
have wandered
> off, I'm seeing less off-topic stuff in my mailbox.  I guess I
can't complain.
>
> -bmw

Rich,

> What's really useful is ordering for last posts and/or last topics
> posted, which is possible.

No, what would be really useful would be if the forum were mirrored as
a mailing-list and/or NNTP newsgroup, so everyone can participate in
the way they prefer. A web-forum alone is not useful to me *at all*.

    Ian Petersen

Quoting John Back <jback@...>:
>
> 'dem new-fangled web thingames.. .blargh!

I gotta agree with you John! :-)

I subscribed to this mail-list when "perfectly good" BB alternatives exist
because ... I *like* email.  Email is PUSH technology.  The messages come to me
without my having to remember to specifically go and look.  Here's an example:
J. Random Musician discovers a kewl new effect and posts a note to the
mailing-list.  I'm at work and I see the msg arrive and I say, "Oh kewl!  I'll
remember that idea and save it in my Orion folder to look at in a few days when
I get a chance and I'm in the mood."

BB is PULL technology: I have to actively login to the BB and seek stuff.  With
the my example, J.R.M. posts to the Orion BB, which I will never see because I'm
at work and I don't have multiple tabs in my browser open to all the dumb little
music BB's there are out there: Orion, Acid, Cubase, ... constantly hitting
refresh to see if anything changed ...

If there was only a single BB where all the information I need is posted, this
could work.  But I use several products, which means several BBs, plus I'm an IT
professional, so I'm on at least 20 other mailing-lists which I use filters to
categorize as info arrives.  I can't do any of these things with BBs--they can't
be automated.  My mail-reader is the center of my info-universe.

Now, if the BB had an email gateway so that messages posted there also went out
via email, and vice versa, I'd be happy with that.

Anyway, as things stand, since everyone on orion-users seems to have wandered
off, I'm seeing less off-topic stuff in my mailbox.  I guess I can't complain.

-bmw

It seems to be useful at first but in practice isn't that much.

The reason is simply that rather than email flags (which ARE useful,
certainly wouldnt want to miss them) you dont know whether you
replied to a topic, and/or you might have to re-read since you forgot
about the content.

What's really useful is ordering for last posts and/or last topics
posted, which is possible.

Rich

--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "John Back" <jback@n...> wrote:
> IF the forum listed all unread messages when you logged in, then
I'd be
> interested.  But having to wade through all the little
subcategories trying
> to find what I've missed ...   I simply don't have the time.  I'm
glad the
> new forums have been quickly adopted though - I hate unnecessary
replication
> more than anything....and I am sure Orion will benefit from them
immensely.
>
> -John
> 'dem new-fangled web thingames.. .blargh!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "orionpro2" <orionpro2@y...>
> To: <orion-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:29 AM
> Subject: [orion-users] Forum
>
>
> > Hmm there's quite some traffic on the 'official' forum now, and
> > people from OC migrated instantly, which I didn't expect so fast.
> >
> > Anyways would be nice if some people from here would join too.
> >
> > I'll still read here occasionally, but when you have something
urgent
> > please use the forum, I might miss it otherwise.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orion-users/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >  orion-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> >  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >

IF the forum listed all unread messages when you logged in, then I'd be
interested.  But having to wade through all the little subcategories trying
to find what I've missed ...   I simply don't have the time.  I'm glad the
new forums have been quickly adopted though - I hate unnecessary replication
more than anything....and I am sure Orion will benefit from them immensely.

-John
'dem new-fangled web thingames.. .blargh!

----- Original Message -----
From: "orionpro2" <orionpro2@...>
To: <orion-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:29 AM
Subject: [orion-users] Forum


> Hmm there's quite some traffic on the 'official' forum now, and
> people from OC migrated instantly, which I didn't expect so fast.
>
> Anyways would be nice if some people from here would join too.
>
> I'll still read here occasionally, but when you have something urgent
> please use the forum, I might miss it otherwise.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orion-users/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  orion-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
>  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Hmm there's quite some traffic on the 'official' forum now, and
people from OC migrated instantly, which I didn't expect so fast.

Anyways would be nice if some people from here would join too.

I'll still read here occasionally, but when you have something urgent
please use the forum, I might miss it otherwise.

Rich

Hussan, try...

www.synapse-audio.com/forum (or click on FORUM from the main page)

-John
----- Original Message -----
From: "hussan butt" <hussanbut@...>
To: <orion-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 6:23 AM
Subject: [orion-users] (unknown)


> hi all i just joined in i wanted some help with orion so plz if any one is
willing email me
>
>
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hi all i just joined in i wanted some help with orion so plz if any one is
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Yup!

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--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "dunton33" <dunton32@b...> wrote:
> Can the command stations be used just as sound modules used by
orion
> sequencer instead of its onboard one.
>
>             cheers.
>
> .
> >   It's a really cool piece. I prefer the command stations to the
> > 2500 rackmount, but it's extremely useful as a hardware
sequencer
> > and makes for a nice sound module as well!
> >
> > /.e
> >
> >
> > --- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "dunton33" <dunton32@b...>
> wrote:
> > > does anyone have anything good to say about the proteus as i
> have
> > a
> > > chance of buying one quite cheap.
> > >
> > >
> > >       cheers.

Can the command stations be used just as sound modules used by orion
sequencer instead of its onboard one.

             cheers.

.
>   It's a really cool piece. I prefer the command stations to the
> 2500 rackmount, but it's extremely useful as a hardware sequencer
> and makes for a nice sound module as well!
>
> /.e
>
>
> --- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "dunton33" <dunton32@b...>
wrote:
> > does anyone have anything good to say about the proteus as i
have
> a
> > chance of buying one quite cheap.
> >
> >
> >       cheers.

I used a prog called System Mechanic, it has a Windows Start Up
editor, you can enable/disable whatever progs you want.

for the start up sound, go to Start>Settings>Control Panel>Sounds and
use 'none' for start up.

hope that helps


--- In orion-users@yahoogroups.com, "Mike's btinternet mail"
<crazymike99@b...> wrote:
> does any SB Audigy users out there know how to disable that
wretched startup thing when the computer starts up? it's the sound of
it that anoys me, really anoying after the computer's crashed too...
>
> Mike
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