Thank you Jeremy, Mauricio & Doug,

I followed Jeremy's recommendation to delete the Ooffice library
preferences.  I followed Mauricio's & Doug's recommendation to check
out Neooffice.  It's very nice.

Bernie

On Nov 15, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Doug Burke wrote:

>
> Bernie,
>
> There is/was a problem with OO and the recent 1.1.2 X11 update from
> apple: for instance
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Recent-Apple-x11-update,-Open-Office-will-not-
> open-t2598935.html
>
> The page includes a work around for the problem. I *think* that it is
> only a problem for the 1.1.2 Apple X11 update (ie if you update to
> 1.1.3 the problem has been fixed).
>
> As an alternative I've had good luck using NeoOffice - it's based
> on OO
> 2.0 but has a more Mac look and feel. It can be grabbed from
>
> http://www.neooffice.org/
>
> [once you download the 2.0 beta 3 version don't forget to also
> download
> the patch set - I think it's at revision 7 at the moment]
>
> On Nov 15, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Bernie Walp wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have success (or trouble) with Open Office 2.0 on the
> > newer Macs, the ones with the Intel processors?
> >
> > I ask because I installed openoffice.org's Intel version, opened one
> > file, closed it, and since then have never been able to start
> > openoffice--it shuts down right after displaying the pretty Open
> > Office trade-mark. Deleting & reinstalling doesn't seem to help.
> >
> > Thanks for any perspective,
> > B.w
> >
> > P.S.: Perhaps this is my punishment bothering to read M'Soft files
> > mass-emailed by university administration office workers :(-Q
> >
> > P.P.S.: else perhaps it's punishment for ignoring everyone's advice
> > never to install anything with a version number ending in point-zero
> >
> >
>
>  !DSPAM:455b62ee21007914024448!

Hi,
I'm having a fair amount of trouble building vpfit/rdgen on my macbook
pro, and I wonder if anyone has had success? If so, which compilers did
you use? Did you use the pgplot libs from fink?

The only compiler I can find that eats the vpfit fortran code is the g77
compiler from hpc.sourceforge.net....but the pgplot libs I have are
compiled with g95 (fink) or gfortran (scisoft)...which throws up linking
problems with vpfit at link stage (unresolved gfortran/g95 symbols).

Any wisdom out there?

cheers
chris

Bernie,

There is/was a problem with OO and the recent 1.1.2 X11 update from
apple: for instance

http://www.nabble.com/Recent-Apple-x11-update,-Open-Office-will-not-
open-t2598935.html

The page includes a work around for the problem. I *think* that it is
only a problem for the 1.1.2 Apple X11 update (ie if you update to
1.1.3 the problem has been fixed).

As an alternative I've had good luck using NeoOffice - it's based on OO
2.0 but has a more Mac look and feel. It can be grabbed from

    http://www.neooffice.org/

[once you download the 2.0 beta 3 version don't forget to also download
the patch set - I think it's at revision 7 at the moment]


On Nov 15, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Bernie Walp wrote:

> Does anyone have success (or trouble) with Open Office 2.0 on the
>  newer Macs, the ones with the Intel processors?
>
>  I ask because I installed openoffice.org's Intel version, opened one
>  file, closed it, and since then have never been able to start
>  openoffice--it shuts down right after displaying the pretty Open
>  Office trade-mark. Deleting & reinstalling doesn't seem to help.
>
>  Thanks for any perspective,
>  B.w
>
>  P.S.: Perhaps this is my punishment bothering to read M'Soft files
>  mass-emailed by university administration office workers :(-Q
>
>  P.P.S.: else perhaps it's punishment for ignoring everyone's advice
>  never to install anything with a version number ending in point-zero
>
>

Hi,

I don't have an Intel-Mac (I'm still fine with my PPC), but I recall some
issues in other forums about Open Office with the latest X11 update and
intel-Macs.

Maybe your woes are discussed/solved in:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=758&start=0

Also, Did you tried NeoOffice?
http://www.planamesa.com/neojava/en/faq.php
http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/Main_Page

Good luck,

M.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Bernie Walp wrote:

> Does anyone have success (or trouble) with Open Office 2.0 on the
> newer Macs, the ones with the Intel processors?
>
> I ask because I installed openoffice.org's Intel version, opened one
> file, closed it, and since then have never been able to start
> openoffice--it shuts down right after displaying the pretty Open
> Office trade-mark.  Deleting & reinstalling doesn't seem to help.
>
> Thanks for any perspective,
> B.w
>
> P.S.:  Perhaps this is my punishment bothering to read M'Soft files
> mass-emailed by university administration office workers :(-Q
>
> P.P.S.:  else perhaps it's punishment for ignoring everyone's advice
> never to install anything with a version number ending in point-zero

Have you tried blowing away the preference files for Open Office in
your home directory?  That might do it.

-jeremy

On Nov 15, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Bernie Walp wrote:

> Does anyone have success (or trouble) with Open Office 2.0 on the
> newer Macs, the ones with the Intel processors?
>
> I ask because I installed openoffice.org's Intel version, opened one
> file, closed it, and since then have never been able to start
> openoffice--it shuts down right after displaying the pretty Open
> Office trade-mark.  Deleting & reinstalling doesn't seem to help.
>
> Thanks for any perspective,
> B.w
>
> P.S.:  Perhaps this is my punishment bothering to read M'Soft files
> mass-emailed by university administration office workers :(-Q
>
> P.P.S.:  else perhaps it's punishment for ignoring everyone's advice
> never to install anything with a version number ending in point-zero
>
>
> Professional Astronomy Software for OSX:
> http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~nridge/osxastro/
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Jeremy Hallum, Department System Administrator
Department of Astronomy,
University of Michigan
   jhallum@...

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On Nov 15, 2006, at 11:24 AM, Bernie Walp wrote:
> Does anyone have success (or trouble) with Open Office 2.0 on the
> newer Macs, the ones with the Intel processors?
>
> I ask because I installed openoffice.org's Intel version, opened one
> file, closed it, and since then have never been able to start
> openoffice--it shuts down right after displaying the pretty Open
> Office trade-mark. Deleting & reinstalling doesn't seem to help.
If you upgraded X11 recently (but not yesterday) when Apple pushed
out an upgrade, this broke the X11 fonts which OpenOffice uses.  If
you get the new X11 update which Apple pushed out yesterday, this
fixes the font problem.
> P.P.S.: else perhaps it's punishment for ignoring everyone's advice
> never to install anything with a version number ending in point-zero
The current OpenOffice is 2.0.3 I think, so its a non-zero ending. :)

Juan

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Dept. of Physics and Astronomy           IM: AstroJuanCab (AIM)
1104 Seventh Ave South, Hagen 307B           cabanela@... (MSN)
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Does anyone have success (or trouble) with Open Office 2.0 on the
newer Macs, the ones with the Intel processors?

I ask because I installed openoffice.org's Intel version, opened one
file, closed it, and since then have never been able to start
openoffice--it shuts down right after displaying the pretty Open
Office trade-mark.  Deleting & reinstalling doesn't seem to help.

Thanks for any perspective,
B.w

P.S.:  Perhaps this is my punishment bothering to read M'Soft files
mass-emailed by university administration office workers :(-Q

P.P.S.:  else perhaps it's punishment for ignoring everyone's advice
never to install anything with a version number ending in point-zero

On 19 Oct 2006, at 03:08, i.rhea wrote:

> Thanks so much!
> I may try everyone's suggestion carefully.
>
> following is the massage on my linux box
> rhea:is my linux system
> rhea-2 is my mac
>
> [rhea@localhost ~]$ xhost +
> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
Don't do this when using ssh -X or -Y. It's not necessary and it
makes you less secure.
> [rhea@localhost ~]$ ssh -X 192.168.0.178
> Password:
> Last login: Thu Oct 19 08:58:33 2006 from 192.168.0.178
> Welcome to Darwin!
> <snip>
> [rhea-2:~/ciao/bin] rhea% source ciao.csh
> Warning: X DISPLAY variable is not set. CIAO cannot be fully
> configured; some interactive GUI applications may fail.
> CIAO configuration is complete...
> CIAO version : CIAO 3.3.0.1 Wednesday, January 4, 2006
> Proposal Toolkit version : Cycle 8 Wednesday, November 16, 2005
> bin dir : /Users/rhea/ciao/bin
>

DISPLAY should have been set by ssh at the far end (to something
like :10.0) by this point, and it hasn't. Can you post what's in
your /etc/sshd_config on the remote end?

--
Edd

As an alternative to ssh -Y (which is the new -X, there is a full
explanation somewhere on the openssh web site). You can add the
following lines to your ~/.ssh/config file:

Host *
         ForwardX11 yes
         ForwardX11Trusted yes

ForwardX11 yes is equivalent to -X
ForwardX11Trusted yes is equivalent to -Y

I'm not certain both are necessary, but X11 forwarding works for me
with those settings.

Chris

Thanks so much!
I may try everyone's suggestion carefully.

following is the massage on my linux box
rhea:is my linux system
rhea-2 is my mac


[rhea@localhost ~]$ xhost +
access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[rhea@localhost ~]$ ssh -X 192.168.0.178
Password:
Last login: Thu Oct 19 08:58:33 2006 from 192.168.0.178
Welcome to Darwin!
~ rhea$ csh
  Hello, This is C-Shell
[rhea-2:~] rhea% cd ciao
[rhea-2:~/ciao] rhea% cd
[rhea-2:~/ciao] rhea% pwd
/Volumes/Data/ciao
[rhea-2:~/ciao] rhea% cd bin
[rhea-2:~/ciao/bin] rhea% source ciao.csh
Warning: X DISPLAY variable is not set. CIAO cannot be fully
configured; some interactive GUI applications may fail.
CIAO configuration is complete...
  CIAO version     :  CIAO 3.3.0.1 Wednesday, January 4, 2006
  Proposal Toolkit version :  Cycle 8 Wednesday, November 16, 2005
  bin dir          :  /Users/rhea/ciao/bin


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
here, hints, can't display X window normally



like above,  I relogin Mac again, and add setenv
[rhea-2:~] rhea% setenv DISPLAY 192.168.0.186:0.0
[rhea-2:~] rhea% cd ciao
[rhea-2:~/ciao] rhea% cd bin
[rhea-2:~/ciao/bin] rhea% source ciao.csh
/Users/rhea/ciao/bin/cxcldres: line 43: xrdb: command not found
Warning: CIAO X resources were not loaded properly. Some
interactive GUI applications may fail.
CIAO configuration is complete...
  CIAO version     :  CIAO 3.3.0.1 Wednesday, January 4, 2006
  Proposal Toolkit version :  Cycle 8 Wednesday, November 16, 2005
  bin dir          :  /Users/rhea/ciao/bin



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
X windows still can't display.



then try ssh -Y

[rhea@localhost ~]$ ssh -Y 192.168.0.178
Password:
Last login: Thu Oct 19 08:59:11 2006 from 192.168.0.186
Welcome to Darwin!
~ rhea$ csh
  Hello, This is C-Shell
[rhea-2:~] rhea% cd ciao
[rhea-2:~/ciao] rhea% cd bin
[rhea-2:~/ciao/bin] rhea% source ciao.csh
Warning: X DISPLAY variable is not set. CIAO cannot be fully
configured; some interactive GUI applications may fail.
CIAO configuration is complete...
  CIAO version     :  CIAO 3.3.0.1 Wednesday, January 4, 2006
  Proposal Toolkit version :  Cycle 8 Wednesday, November 16, 2005
  bin dir          :  /Users/rhea/ciao/bin









--- In osxastro@yahoogroups.com, "i.rhea" <leemin@...> wrote:
>
> Dear all, we got several mac pros, and most of our softs are, iraf,
> ciao,etc. We want students to use mac pros as servers.
> Such as on student's pc, we install Federa Core 5,
> then ssh -X@mac_servers_ip
> but unfortunately, the term appear's it is not TK application couldn't
> appear...
>
> On the other hand, when I use Mac to login other unix systerm, X
> window works normally.
>
> Anyone has met this problem? Or how you remote to login Mac's window(
> Aqua and X11) though other unix system?
>
> Thank you.
>

Dr. Juan Cabanela Ph.D. <cabanela@...> wrote:

> As a warning, VNC doesn't encrypt traffic by default, so unless you
> run over SSH, and the password is sent cleartext, so this is not a
> very secure way to connect to your machine remotely.  Within a lab,
> with proper firewall settings, it is probably pretty safe.  See
>
> <http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050429153115383>
>
> for more details on running VNC securely.  If you don't open up the
> firewall for Apple Remote Desktop, you can still access the built-in
> VNC support via SSH tunneling.

Hi Juan!

As noted in the comments to that article, it's not clear that one can
start the Apple Remote Desktop service in System Preferences, while
*not* opening the firewall port for it.  On my 10.4.8 installation,
anyway, if I turn on Apple Remote Desktop under the Services tab, then
under the Firewall tab it automatically enables those ports (including
5900, used for VNC) and if you click on it to try to change it, it says
"You cannot change the firewall settings for this service".

There's probably a way to do this behind the scenes somewhere in config
files. If someone has a pointer to a way to set this up (enabling the
built-in VNC server, but only for access from localhost, e.g. through an
SSH tunnel), I'd be interested in seeing it.

On the other hand, OSXvnc has an "only allow local connections (require
ssh)" option, which, at the expense of requiring an additional piece of
software, makes it easier to tighten up the security.

Finally, I'll note that some newer VNC clients (e.g. those from
TightVNC) make the work of tunneling a VNC connection through SSH much
simpler, using the "-via" command-line switch.  So one can type

	  vncviewer -via username@... :1

which will automagically initiate the SSH connection and set up the
tunnel (first asking you for your SSH password if necessary), and then
make the VNC connection through that tunnel (asking for your VNC
password as necessary and sending through the encrypted tunnel).

You can find an OS X command-line client that does this at
http://tightvnc.darwinports.com/ - I use it regularly to connect to my
Linux machines from OS X, but there's no reason it couldn't connect
Mac-to-Mac.

Thanks,

Eric

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On Oct 18, 2006, at 8:41 AM, Jennifer Hatchell wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 08:56 -0400, Naomi Ridge wrote:
> A free solution for viewing your Mac desktop from another machine
> is to
> use VNC (Virtual Network Computing) eg. OSXvnc as the server on
> your Mac
> then a vncviewer on your other architecture (or other mac). VNC will
> tunnel through ssh. I find with OSXvnc the screen redraw isn't as
> smooth as it might be eg. when you move windows, but it work
There is a freer solution, in the sense that if you have OS 10.4
installed, you already have a VNC server built-in to the Mac as part
of Apple Remote Desktop support.  I have used it and it works.  Just
do the following:

1) Go to the Sharing preference Pane under System Preferences.
2) Turn on "Apple Desktop Sharing" under the "Services" tab.
3) When a sheet slides down with all the options, make sure to select
"VNC viewers may control screen with password AND SET THE PASSWORD.
Set other options as appropriate (some may not even apply under VNC
control).  Click OK to accept.

Now you should be able to connect to the Mac Desktop with a VNC
client.  It is more sluggish than OSXvnc, but its built-in.  More
info is here:
<http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050502171842237>

As a warning, VNC doesn't encrypt traffic by default, so unless you
run over SSH, and the password is sent cleartext, so this is not a
very secure way to connect to your machine remotely.  Within a lab,
with proper firewall settings, it is probably pretty safe.  See

<http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050429153115383>

for more details on running VNC securely.  If you don't open up the
firewall for Apple Remote Desktop, you can still access the built-in
VNC support via SSH tunneling.

Juan
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Minnesota State University Moorhead     WWW: http://www.cabanela.com/
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy           IM: AstroJuanCab (AIM)
1104 Seventh Ave South, Hagen 307B           cabanela@... (MSN)
Moorhead, MN 56563                           Cabanela (Yahoo)
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On Oct 18, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Peter Erwin wrote:

> In principle, X11 applications should be able to be run remotely.

Also, if "ssh -X" doesn't work, try "ssh -Y" instead.  For me this
became necessary when SSH2 became the default instead of SSH1.

Cheers,

-- Paul

At 8:56 AM -0400 10/18/06, Naomi Ridge wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>it's not clear from your message - are you trying to open X
>applications or native Mac (Aqua/Cocoa) applications from a linux/
>unix machine? As far as I'm aware it's not possible to run the native
>applications remotely without buying Apple Remote Desktop.

It's not clear to me what the problem is, either, but I'd agree with Naomi that
native Mac (Aqua/Cargon) apps can't be run remotely without something
like Apple Remote Desktop.

>
>If it's X11 applications then they should run remotely no problem. If
>you are having problems in that case, it may just be that you need to
>change your terminal variable in your .cshrc/.bashrc files. Can you
>post the full error message you are getting and someone might be able
>to help more.

In principle, X11 applications should be able to be run remotely.  I think
X11 display forwarding is turned *off* by default, however, so it won't
work out of the box.  According to this Apple doc
     http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2004/qa1383.html
turning on X11 forwarding should just be a one-line change in the
/etc/sshd_config file.

(Obviously, you need to allow remote logins as well, but it sounds like
that's already working.)

cheers,

Peter

>On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:50 AM, i.rhea wrote:
>
>>  Dear all, we got several mac pros, and most of our softs are, iraf,
>>  ciao,etc. We want students to use mac pros as servers.
>>  Such as on student's pc, we install Federa Core 5,
>>  then ssh -X@mac_servers_ip
>>  but unfortunately, the term appear's it is not TK application couldn't
>>  appear...
>>
>>  On the other hand, when I use Mac to login other unix systerm, X
>>  window works normally.
>>
>>  Anyone has met this problem? Or how you remote to login Mac's window(
>>  Aqua and X11) though other unix system?
>>
>>  Thank you.

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=============================================================
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erwin@...              Physics, Giessenbachstrasse
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On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 08:56 -0400, Naomi Ridge wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> it's not clear from your message - are you trying to open X
> applications or native Mac (Aqua/Cocoa) applications from a linux/
> unix machine? As far as I'm aware it's not possible to run the native
> applications remotely without buying Apple Remote Desktop.

A free solution for viewing your Mac desktop from another machine is to
use VNC (Virtual Network Computing) eg. OSXvnc as the server on your Mac
then a vncviewer on your other architecture (or other mac).  VNC will
tunnel through ssh.  I find with OSXvnc the screen redraw isn't as
smooth as it might be eg. when you move windows, but it works.

The documentation suggests it works for more than one user with fast
user switching under Tiger but I haven't tried this.

OSXvnc website:
www.redstonesoftware.com/products/vine/vineosx/

Is anyone else using vnc on macs?

Jenny

--
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tel. +44 (0)1392 262511
School of Physics, University of Exeter,
Stocker Road, Exeter EX4 4QL, U.K.

Hi there,

it's not clear from your message - are you trying to open X
applications or native Mac (Aqua/Cocoa) applications from a linux/
unix machine? As far as I'm aware it's not possible to run the native
applications remotely without buying Apple Remote Desktop.

If it's X11 applications then they should run remotely no problem. If
you are having problems in that case, it may just be that you need to
change your terminal variable in your .cshrc/.bashrc files. Can you
post the full error message you are getting and someone might be able
to help more.

naomi.

On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:50 AM, i.rhea wrote:

> Dear all, we got several mac pros, and most of our softs are, iraf,
> ciao,etc. We want students to use mac pros as servers.
> Such as on student's pc, we install Federa Core 5,
> then ssh -X@mac_servers_ip
> but unfortunately, the term appear's it is not TK application couldn't
> appear...
>
> On the other hand, when I use Mac to login other unix systerm, X
> window works normally.
>
> Anyone has met this problem? Or how you remote to login Mac's window(
> Aqua and X11) though other unix system?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>

Dear all, we got several mac pros, and most of our softs are, iraf,
ciao,etc. We want students to use mac pros as servers.
Such as on student's pc, we install Federa Core 5,
then ssh -X@mac_servers_ip
but unfortunately, the term appear's it is not TK application couldn't
appear...

On the other hand, when I use Mac to login other unix systerm, X
window works normally.

Anyone has met this problem? Or how you remote to login Mac's window(
Aqua and X11) though other unix system?

Thank you.

Hi all,

I had overlooked this post by Jeremy Hallum on Intel Fortran compiler. As I
wrote
yesterday, I was able to build pgplot and WIP on my intel iMac. Today, I tried
building
Miriad which turned out to be an adventure, particularly since I had never done
this before
even for "normal setups" such as linux PCs etc. I have now managed to build the
Miriad
package using the Intel compiler, except for the following 9 tasks:

atlod
calflag
calib
cgslice
clplot
pnt
rmsfit
uvamp
uvtrack

The following symbols were not found by ld for many of these programs:
ld: Undefined symbols:
_sgefa_
_sgesl_

For uvtrack:
ld: Undefined symbols:
_device_
_tsetup_
_erase_
_setexpand_
_setloc_
_setlim_
_box_
_grelocate_
_label_
_relocate_
_point_
_tidle_
_fileplot_
_prswapxy_
_fileinit_
_setlweight_
_vtswapxy_
_imsetup_

Any advice from Miriad experts on above will be very helpful.

I will send a separate, more detailed email to smamiriad@cfa shortly.

As before, I had a symbolic link for g77 pointing to ifort. In my install.miriad
script, the
relevant lines are as follows:

set telescope=sma

set generic=1

set shared=0

set pgplot=0                  (since I had already built pgplot earlier)

set g95=0
set gfortran=0
set intel=0                    (note that this needs to be 0 despite using the
intel compiler,
                                       setting this to 1 did not work- I think
this is meant only
                                       for linux PCs).

Then I ran install.miriad which failed to create several tasks (about 70). I
tracked these
down and issued g77 command via a script with the following options, to build
most of
these tasks: (e.g. for cgdisp):

g77 -o $MIR/bin/darwin/cgdisp cgdisp.for -I $MIR/src/inc  -L $MIR/lib/darwin
-lmir /
usr/local/pgplot/libpgplot.a -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11

Thats it.
I hope there will be an official install.miriad script for intel Macs someday,
until then, I
think I can get by with this partially built Miriad.

All the best,

Nimesh
SMA
CfA

--- In osxastro@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@...> wrote:
>
> Intel appears to be selling their Fortran Compiler for OS X now:
>
> http://www3.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/compilers/fmac/
267426.htm
>
> It also appears that there is an evaluation license you can use to see
> if you like it or not.   People here have liked the Intel compilers for
> linux, but we have not tried the OS X version yet.
>
> -jeremy
>
>
> Karen Masters wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  Does anyone have a fortran compiler working successfully on an intel Mac?
> >
> >  Karen.
> >
> >
> > Professional Astronomy Software for OSX:
> > http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~nridge/osxastro/
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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Hi Tyler,

I have now successfully built pgplot and WIP on my iMac (2 GHz Intel Core Duo,
MacOSX
10.4.7, 1 GB RAM) using the commercial Intel Fortran compiler 9.1. I downloaded
a free
evaluation (Standard) version of this compiler from:

http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/compilers/fmac/267426.htm

For installation of pgplot, proceed with notes on "Unix installation",
pretending you are
building this for a linux PC: (select linux and g77_gcc for the makemake
command).

Make a symbolic link for g77 pointing to the ifort (intel compiler).

In the Makefile, add the option: -nofor_main to g77:
FCOMPL=g77 -nofor_main

I failed to create the shared library, with the error message: -shared: invalid
option, from
gcc. Apparently you are supposed to use -dynamiclib instead of -shared for this
gcc that
came with MacOSX developer package, but this did not work. I am not sure we need
this
libpgplot.so, though.

For WIP, again, pretend to be doing this for linux. My domake script has this
command:
makewip -wip ~/Desktop/wip -pgplot /usr/local/pgplot -xlib /usr/X11R6/lib -cc "g
cc -ansi" -host linux

Hope this helps.

I will try to build Miriad with this Intel compiler (before the evaluation times
out).

All the best,
Nimesh


--- In osxastro@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler L. Bourke" <tbourke@...> wrote:
>
>
> Glad to see some discussion on the lack of g77 for the intel macs.
>
> I'm hoping some of you out there can offer some pointers.
>
> I have got a hold of g95, gfortran, and fort77 from fink.
> Now, if I want to compile some software which has successfully
> used g77/f77 in the past, with one of these other fortran compilers,
> how should I go about it.  Can I just edit the appropriate make/install
> etc files and swap g77/f77 with one of g95/gfortran/fort77, or are
> there other things I would need to change/check.
>
> Or if someone with an intel mac has already compiled the following,
> on an intel mac:
>
> miriad (any flavour)
> gildas
> wip (stand alone...or part of miriad)
> starlink
>
> I did install karma and it works, but the installation is very
> easy, no real thinking involved.
>
> thanks in advance
> Tyler
>
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On 9/14/06, Tyler L. Bourke <tbourke@...> wrote:
> Or if someone with an intel mac has already compiled the following,
> on an intel mac:
>
> starlink

Yes. It should compile fine if you check it out from anonymous CVS
(see http://dev.starlink.ac.uk for more information).

If you don't want to compile it all yourself, you can download the PPC
build (which will run on Intel Macs in Rosetta mode, so it won't be as
fast as a native compile) at
http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/software/starlink/

Cheers,
  Brad.

--
Brad Cavanagh, Data Reduction Software Engineer
Joint Astronomy Centre, Hilo, Hawaii
b.cavanagh@... / +1-808-969-6555

Hi Tyler,

I can't offer any direct comments, since I don't usually do Fortran compiling.
But the g95 web pages -- including the notes on compiling specific packages
such as LAPACK -- suggest that you probably should be able to just substitute
g95 for f77/g77 in the makefile.  Certainly, it's worth trying that as a first
step.

Some of the notes on their "Howto" page (http://www.g95.org/howto.html)
indicate that adding the flags "-ffixed_form -fno_underscoring" might sometimes
be helpful, but I wouldn't worry about that unless a simple compile fails.

Good luck...

cheers,

Peter

>Glad to see some discussion on the lack of g77 for the intel macs.
>
>I'm hoping some of you out there can offer some pointers.
>
>I have got a hold of g95, gfortran, and fort77 from fink.
>Now, if I want to compile some software which has successfully
>used g77/f77 in the past, with one of these other fortran compilers,
>how should I go about it.  Can I just edit the appropriate make/install
>etc files and swap g77/f77 with one of g95/gfortran/fort77, or are
>there other things I would need to change/check.
>
>Or if someone with an intel mac has already compiled the following,
>on an intel mac:
>
>miriad (any flavour)
>gildas
>wip (stand alone...or part of miriad)
>starlink
>
>I did install karma and it works, but the installation is very
>easy, no real thinking involved.
>
>thanks in advance
>Tyler

--
=============================================================
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erwin@...              Physics, Giessenbachstrasse
tel. +49 (0)89 30000 3695     85748 Garching, Germany
fax  +49 (0)89 30000 3495     http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~erwin

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Tyler L. Bourke wrote:

> I have got a hold of g95, gfortran, and fort77 from fink.
> Now, if I want to compile some software which has successfully
> used g77/f77 in the past, with one of these other fortran compilers,
> how should I go about it.  Can I just edit the appropriate make/install
> etc files and swap g77/f77 with one of g95/gfortran/fort77, or are
> there other things I would need to change/check.

i know for miriad (and wip) one has to be careful, since the #ifdef
on byteswapping was done based on darwin always being big endian. That's
not true anymore now. I'll have to fix that still.

> Or if someone with an intel mac has already compiled the following,
> on an intel mac:
>
> miriad (any flavour)
> gildas
> wip (stand alone...or part of miriad)
> starlink

wip standalone is a bit of a pain, but i just this morning installed miriad
again, albeit on a G5, but found that i had to update some of the hints.
Mostly related to the cc_dynamic and SystemStubs libraries that
need to be present to successfully link.

I did that with the standard /usr/bin/cc (4.2.0) and /usr/local/bin/g77 (3.4.4),
i'm going to have to confirm other combinations (fink, darwinports) work also
this way.

> I did install karma and it works, but the installation is very
> easy, no real thinking involved.

ahum, isn't that a binary install? I'm not aware any source is
available for karma...

- peter

Glad to see some discussion on the lack of g77 for the intel macs.

I'm hoping some of you out there can offer some pointers.

I have got a hold of g95, gfortran, and fort77 from fink.
Now, if I want to compile some software which has successfully
used g77/f77 in the past, with one of these other fortran compilers,
how should I go about it.  Can I just edit the appropriate make/install
etc files and swap g77/f77 with one of g95/gfortran/fort77, or are
there other things I would need to change/check.

Or if someone with an intel mac has already compiled the following,
on an intel mac:

miriad (any flavour)
gildas
wip (stand alone...or part of miriad)
starlink

I did install karma and it works, but the installation is very
easy, no real thinking involved.

thanks in advance
Tyler

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Hi all,

I have created a library of FORTRAN routines to create, read, edit,
plot, and display FITS (Flexible Image Transport System) image files.
  Some of the capabilities of the routines are illustrated in the demo
program "testfits" of which executables are available for Linux on
Intel, and Mac OS X on PPC.  The routines are known to compile on
Linux with the Portland Group F77 compiler, and on the Mac with the
Absoft FORTRAN compiler.  A VMS version will eventually be available
as well.  The output files all pass the FITS verification program at

   fits.gsfc.nasa.gov/fits_verify.html

The routines only consider FITS images, and all data types are
supported.  Image extensions are supported (these are referred to here
as "maps"), and multiple planes are also supported.  Currently, the
output file must be different than the input file if both are open.

The demo program can carry out the following operations:
  1 = Reads all or part of a row (default)
  2 = Plots a cut through a file
  3 = Reads an xy area
  4 = Displays an image on SAOimage (Enhanced version)
  5 = Writes all or part of a row for a new or existing file
  6 = Writes an xy area for a new or existing file
  7 = Performs simple rotations on a file
  8 = Copies one or more maps from one file to another
  9 = Copies a set of maps from one file to a set of planes in another
    file
10 = Prints the header
11 = Writes a COMMENT or HISTORY keycard to the header of an existing file
12 = Updates or creates a keycard with a string value, e.g., AUTHOR,
      CTYPEn, BUNIT, DATE, DATE-OBS, etc.
13 = Updates or creates the BSCALE and BZERO keycards for an existing
file
14 = Replaces a keycard with blanks

The source code, executables, and documentation can be downloaded from
   www.chara.gsu.edu/~gudehus/fits_library_package.html

Donald Gudehus

Starlink Software Collection - "Keoe (Vega)" Release
----------------------------------------------------

JAC announces a new release of the Starlink Software Collection.

Highlights of the "Keoe (Vega)" release include:

  * 3-D data visualisation in GAIA.

  * A beta release of CupID ("ClUmP IDentification), a package
  supporting a number of different algorithms for the cataloguing and
  extraction of complex non-uniform emission sources in 2- and
  3-D. CUPID is being developed for the JCMT Legacy Survey Programme,
  but is a general application that can be applied to any suitable
  dataset.

  * Support for 64-bit operating systems.

  * Support for large files (up to 2GB data arrays for 32-bit systems,
  more on 64-bit).

  * ORAC-DR support for WFCAM data processing.

  * The ".sdf" file extension can be left in filenames given to all
  Starlink commands (eg. "stats file.sdf" is equivalent to "stats
  file").

For full release notes on individual packages, see:
http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/software/starlink/keoe-release-notes.html

For further information, see:
http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/software/starlink/


Support
-------

The Starlink Project was terminated in June 2005. The Starlink Software
Collection is being maintained by the JAC, with support from PPARC, for
the benefit of our users. Bugs or feature requests reproducible with UKIRT
or JCMT data sets should be e-mailed to stardev@... where they
will be attended to in priority order.

Non-JAC users are encouraged to report bugs to starlink@...
where they may be attended to on a best-efforts basis by volunteers.

Open source developers wishing to send in patches or wanting access to the
CVS repository should email stardev@....


Getting the software
--------------------

You can download tar files of the software collection for a number of
architectures from:

http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/software/starlink/download.html

JAC currently runs 32-bit Linux operationally. Other platforms (including
OS X Tiger) are supported on a best efforts basis.


Licencing
---------

The bulk of the collection is distributed under the GNU Public Licence
(http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt), and the remainder under the old
Starlink Licence (http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/software/starlink/old-license.txt).

Refer to the code in individual packages for more information.

Karen,

Some of the things I check that a FORTRAN 77 compiler will support are:

1.  Does it allow preprocessing?  If so, is there any restriction on
the naming of the files extensions?
2.  Does it support the following?
     BYTE data type, ENCODE, DECODE, %REF, %VAL, variable FORMAT
     expressions.
3.  Can it link with object code from FORTRAN 90?
4.  Are there naming restrictions on the object libraries?

But, you may not need any of these.

Donald

--- In osxastro@yahoogroups.com, Karen Masters <kmasters@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  Does anyone have a fortran compiler working successfully on an
intel Mac?
>
>  Karen.
>

Hi Karne,

The G95 project has binaries for Intel ("x86") OSX.  I haven't actually tried
this, since I almost never work with Fortran, but it might be worth checking
out:

     http://www.g95.org/

Links to pre-built binaries here:

     http://ftp.g95.org/

cheers,

Peter


>Hi,
>  Thanks to everyone who suggested fink. :) Actually I did try that before
>emailing the list - but as far as I can tell it appears that g77 is not
>available for *intel* Macs (see here:
>http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/g77; it also does not appear in
>the list of stable or unstable packages available for download on the
>version of fink I installed and updated yesterday). Those of you who said
>you have installed g77 - was that an *intel* Mac? If so I'm obviously
>missing something. When did you do it?
>
>  Also thanks for the suggestion of purchasing the compiler from Intel. I
>also had seen that that was possible, but I was hoping to find an open
>source version if there is one. I should have been more specific in my
>email. :)
>
>  Thanks again,
>
> Karen.
>
>On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Sergio A. Ilovaisky wrote:
>
>>  Well, by installing 'fink' (http://fink.sourceforge.net/) you can
>>  have open source sofware on your Mac. Among those packages you will
>>  find 'g77' which is a Fortran77-compatible compiler. This is what we
>>  used to compile an astronomical software package called
>>  'pleinpot' (http://leda.univ-lyon1.fr/pleinpot/) so that it can run
>>  on a Mac.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>  Sergio Ilovaisky
>>
>>
>>  Le 3 sept. 06 ý 22:50, Karen Masters a Ècrit :
>>
>>  > Hi,
>>  >  Does anyone have a fortran compiler working successfully on an
>>  > intel Mac?
>>  >
>>  >  Karen.

--
=============================================================
Peter Erwin                   Max-Planck-Insitute for Extraterrestrial
erwin@...              Physics, Giessenbachstrasse
tel. +49 (0)89 30000 3695     85748 Garching, Germany
fax  +49 (0)89 30000 3495     http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~erwin

Hi Karen,

      A workaround is to use ppc binary of g77, and it works fine on my
Macbook Pro. But since it is not native, it seems that the executables
I got from it run pretty slow... The following link provides ppc g77
binary to download, but I am not sure whether it was where I got mine
from:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hpc/g77v3.4-bin.tar.gz?download

This site also claims it has gfortran for Intel Mac, but I haven't
tried it myself.

http://hpc.sourceforge.net/

      If the above g77 binary doesn't work for you, please let me know,
and I will try to find where I downloaded mine.

Subo

On 9/4/06, Karen Masters <kmasters@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>  Thanks to everyone who suggested fink. :) Actually I did try that before
> emailing the list - but as far as I can tell it appears that g77 is not
> available for *intel* Macs (see here:
> http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/g77; it also does not appear in
> the list of stable or unstable packages available for download on the
> version of fink I installed and updated yesterday). Those of you who said
> you have installed g77 - was that an *intel* Mac? If so I'm obviously
> missing something. When did you do it?
>
>  Also thanks for the suggestion of purchasing the compiler from Intel. I
> also had seen that that was possible, but I was hoping to find an open
> source version if there is one. I should have been more specific in my
> email. :)
>
>  Thanks again,
>
>         Karen.
>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Sergio A. Ilovaisky wrote:
>
> > Well, by installing 'fink' (http://fink.sourceforge.net/) you can
> > have open source sofware on your Mac. Among those packages you will
> > find 'g77' which is a Fortran77-compatible compiler. This is what we
> > used to compile an astronomical software package called
> > 'pleinpot' (http://leda.univ-lyon1.fr/pleinpot/) so that it can run
> > on a Mac.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sergio Ilovaisky
> >
> >
> > Le 3 sept. 06 à 22:50, Karen Masters a écrit :
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >  Does anyone have a fortran compiler working successfully on an
> > > intel Mac?
> > >
> > >     Karen.
> > >
> > >
> > > Professional Astronomy Software for OSX:
> > > http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~nridge/osxastro/
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Professional Astronomy Software for OSX:
> > http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~nridge/osxastro/
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Professional Astronomy Software for OSX:
> http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~nridge/osxastro/
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>