Just enter outlook.exe /[command string] in the Run dialog, and that should
open Outlook for you. It should also open normally, and there is an option
available that will allow you to switch the working mode from internet to
workgroup (or however MS states it--been a long time since I worked with
that feature in 2000, though I still do run across it in the field from time
to time.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of sfvtrainer
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:57 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't open Outlook 2000



--- In outlook-users@yahoogroups.com, "Neo" <neo@...> wrote:
Outlook 2000 was part of my MS Office suite 2000.  When it was loaded I
apparently selected email vs workgroup when started and cant get out of it.
Went to Run, search and found the location as c:\Program Files\Microsoft
office\office

Now when I added the switch for f/first run or /clean profile etc, just get
file not found error messages.  How should I enter this switch?

RC

> Any of the current (or EX) Outlook MVPs that are on this list still
> remember Outlook 2000.
>
> For a hint, start Outlook 1 time with the /cleanprofile command line
> switch.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kenward
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 08:45
> To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't open Outlook 2000
>
> Has Outlook 2000 ever worked for you?
>
> Do you have some default email folders?
>
> Have you set up a Mail Profile to look for those folders? Look in the
> Control Panel for "Mail" and see what it says.
>
> If these words mean not much to you, then I suggest a bit of time with
> the
> Help files.
>
> Can't be more specific than that. You haven't provided much detail to go
> on.
>
> There is also the point that anyone still messing around with Outlook
> 2000
> will have hard time finding anyone else who can remember what went on in
> software that is a decade old.
>
> MK
>
>
>
>
> 2009/11/14 sfvtrainer <sfvtrainer@...>
>
> >
> >
> > Click on the Icon and I get an error message 'Unable to open your
> default
> > email folders. Outlook could not start because a location to send and
> > receive mail could not be found.
> >
> > I don't use Outlook for email. I use 2003 on my laptop for everything
> else.
> > How do I get it to work on my desktop PC the same way?
> >
> > Thanks RC
> >
> >
> >
>

http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/choosingmode.htm covers the mode
choice/change for Outlook 98/2000.



-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Szabo
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:24
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Can't open Outlook 2000

Just enter outlook.exe /[command string] in the Run dialog, and that
should
open Outlook for you. It should also open normally, and there is an
option
available that will allow you to switch the working mode from internet
to
workgroup (or however MS states it--been a long time since I worked with
that feature in 2000, though I still do run across it in the field from
time
to time.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of sfvtrainer
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:57 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't open Outlook 2000



--- In outlook-users@yahoogroups.com, "Neo" <neo@...> wrote:
Outlook 2000 was part of my MS Office suite 2000.  When it was loaded I
apparently selected email vs workgroup when started and cant get out of
it.
Went to Run, search and found the location as c:\Program Files\Microsoft
office\office

Now when I added the switch for f/first run or /clean profile etc, just
get
file not found error messages.  How should I enter this switch?

RC

> Any of the current (or EX) Outlook MVPs that are on this list still
> remember Outlook 2000.
>
> For a hint, start Outlook 1 time with the /cleanprofile command line
> switch.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kenward
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 08:45
> To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't open Outlook 2000
>
> Has Outlook 2000 ever worked for you?
>
> Do you have some default email folders?
>
> Have you set up a Mail Profile to look for those folders? Look in the
> Control Panel for "Mail" and see what it says.
>
> If these words mean not much to you, then I suggest a bit of time with
> the
> Help files.
>
> Can't be more specific than that. You haven't provided much detail to
go
> on.
>
> There is also the point that anyone still messing around with Outlook
> 2000
> will have hard time finding anyone else who can remember what went on
in
> software that is a decade old.
>
> MK
>
>
>
>
> 2009/11/14 sfvtrainer <sfvtrainer@...>
>
> >
> >
> > Click on the Icon and I get an error message 'Unable to open your
> default
> > email folders. Outlook could not start because a location to send
and
> > receive mail could not be found.
> >
> > I don't use Outlook for email. I use 2003 on my laptop for
everything
> else.
> > How do I get it to work on my desktop PC the same way?
> >
> > Thanks RC
> >
> >
> >
>




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Since Office 2000 products have reached their "end-of-life" point, they are no
longer supported with updates by MS.  I would suggest moving forward to a newer
version--particularly if you are running a newer version on your laptop and plan
to interchange the PST files in the future.

You mentioned you don't use Outlook for email--what do you use it for?  If you
initially set it up for "Internet" only, then you should be able to switch it to
"mail" mode, but again, if you plan to use a newer version on the laptop, I
would ditch 2000 and move on to a newer version that will be compatible with
your laptop.

If you still want to use Outlook 2000 for some reason, you should be able to
reinstall it and the reinstall will fix any errors.  Also, it sounds like you
will need to set up a personal folder location to store the data.

Dale

--- In outlook-users@yahoogroups.com, "sfvtrainer" <sfvtrainer@...> wrote:
>
> Click on the Icon and I get an error message 'Unable to open your default
email folders.  Outlook could not start because a location to send and receive
mail could not be found.
>
> I don't use Outlook for email.  I use 2003 on my laptop for everything else. 
How do I get it to work on my desktop PC the same way?
>
> Thanks RC
>

Since Office 2000 products have reached their "end-of-life" point, they are no
longer supported with updates by MS.  I would suggest moving forward to a newer
version--particularly if you are running a newer version on your laptop and plan
to interchange the PST files in the future.

You mentioned you don't use Outlook for email--what do you use it for?  If you
initially set it up for "Internet" only, then you should be able to switch it to
"mail" mode, but again, if you plan to use a newer version on the laptop, I
would ditch 2000 and move on to a newer version that will be compatible with
your laptop.

If you still want to use Outlook 2000 for some reason, you should be able to
reinstall it and the reinstall will fix any errors.  Also, it sounds like you
will need to set up a personal folder location to store the data.

Dale

--- In outlook-users@yahoogroups.com, "sfvtrainer" <sfvtrainer@...> wrote:
>
> Click on the Icon and I get an error message 'Unable to open your default
email folders.  Outlook could not start because a location to send and receive
mail could not be found.
>
> I don't use Outlook for email.  I use 2003 on my laptop for everything else. 
How do I get it to work on my desktop PC the same way?
>
> Thanks RC
>

I'm trying Office 2003 myself before talking the wife into it. <grin>
(Like that would ever happen anyway...)

Thanks to the two Steve's and Neo for the answers.

Rick Glazier

--- In outlook-users@yahoogroups.com, "Neo" <neo@...> wrote:
>
> If your goal is to make Outlook 98 happy again, then I wouldn't go thru
> the hassle of seeing what the PST does under Outlook 2003.
>
> Other than that, if you happen to have a license available for the wife
> to upgrade, then I would encourage you do to so.  There are many
> enhancements in Office/Outlook 2003 that to me just make plain sense
> when running on Windows XP SP3 and she really won't go thru any culture
> shock like Office 97-2003 to Office 2007 or later.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rickglaz4742435
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 08:25
> To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Older OUTLOOK version -- reply problem.
>
> Thanks, I'd have to examine the types of messages in greater detail.
> I can do that in MSOE as I D/L all messages on several computers
> and leave everything on the server. I need to fire up one of my
> older machines to do that. Thanks for the ideas/suggestions.
>
> More history about the "troubled" machine...
> The original install was Outlook97 that came with Office97-(PRO?).
> We got the "re-issued disks" of that ENTIRE PROGRAM from MS.
> They even came with new install keys, which is why I'm calling
> them "re-issued" rather than some major patch or SR.
> (Maybe they only could do SRs that way back then?)
>
> BUT, Outlook97 was "still" basically flawed in some way, and
> legal users were then encouraged by MS to upgrade to a free version
> of Outlook98. That was generally a D/L IIRC for this scenario..
>
> But I used the OUTLOOK98 disk MS gave me instead. (I like having
> physical media MUCH better than all this modern D/L stuff...)
>
> I have a clean install of MS OFFICE Outlook2003 on MY machine.
> (Never used since a recent clean install.)
> Would it be a good idea to export/import the PST to this machine to see
> what happens?
>
> My compliments to MS on a good 10 year (or so) total run with
> zero problems up till now...
>
> Rick Glazier
>
> --- In outlook-users@yahoogroups.com, "Neo" <neo@> wrote:
> >
> > In regards to the crash, is it isolated to specific message formats?
> For
> > example, do you notice the crash happen when working with RTF messages
> > but not with HTML or plain text.  The reason that I ask is that there
> > have been incompatibility issues with RTF messages between different
> > versions of Outlook.
> >
> > Other than that and have had to deal with upgrades over the years, I
> > have always found it best to uninstall the previous version of Office
> > and then install the new one.  This action does not destroy any of the
> > user preferences, options, or data as the next version will do what it
> > most to bring them forward to the next version.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rickglaz4742435
> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 07:47
> > To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Older OUTLOOK version -- reply problem.
> >
> > Hi, I'm new to this list, but am a fairly advanced user,
> > non-channel OEM system builder (small-OEM), MS Partner Network,
> > Intel Channel Member, etc...
> >
> > Sorry for the length.
> > Hardware Background: In use on an XP-Pro_SP3_non-channel OEM machine.
> > Worked fine for 6-7 years minimum. (Time flies.)
> > Because we needed this program and hardware mix for various reasons,
> > the Mother Board was replaced with an exact replacement NEW one
> > about 1-2 years ago. That was a lucky fluke that some distributer
> > had a box of them "in the back"...
> > The computer has NO random, strange, or other errors of any kind.
> >
> > My wife uses Outlook98 in "home user mode" (in a home type setting).
> > Outlook98 had worked well since we first got it from MS directly,
> > as a "stand-alone" program ON A CD, at some MS seminar. I think it
> > is a "Corp version" since it did not require any key at all, unlike
> > other copies of it I also own. (That should not matter?)
> >
> > We know it is old. I've been trying to get her to switch for years.
> >
> > When she replies to SOME messages, with or without an attachment,
> > OutLook98 crashes.
> > We can view the message(s) and run the attachment (if any) fine.
> > Other messages can be replied to fine. (Go figure.)
> >
> > The simple act of trying to REPLY (sometimes, but repeatable with
> > certain messages) crashes the program.
> >
> > I ran the original Inbox Repair tool that came with the program.
> > It found minor errors and repaired them. No difference.
> > The log it generated looked fine to me.
> >
> > Other than forcing my wife into an upgrade, are there any good
> > paths to an "in-place" solution?
> >
> > Would a program re-install help this type of problem, or is it
> > likely a PST corruption. BTW, the PST is only 250megs, so it is
> > not pushing the size limit, I would guess...
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Rick Glazier
> >
>
>
>
>
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Is it just me, or does Outlook 2007 crash fairly regularly if you try to do
things too quickly? I find that if I switch items rapidly it tends to die. E.g.,
I come back from being away. I have a dozen or so new notes in several mailboxes
(Exchange + a half dozen POP accounts). I start flying through them, and at some
point Outlook stops responding and then falls over.

Obviously that's a pretty lousy description of the problem, but it's all I have.
I've applied all the stability patches I can find.

Is this just par for the course?

Is it just me, or does Outlook 2007 crash fairly regularly if you try to do
things too quickly? - Phil Smith



Phil, I noticed the same thing when I did an update at the end of October.
I even did system restores before the Oct. 28th patch but that has not
completely taken care of the problem.  I've sent a note to Microsoft and
been looking at their blogs but no one else has mentioned it until your
post.  It is so bad I'm looking at Google Aps.



Kirk Shelley

"A man occupied with public or other important business cannot, and need
not, attend to spelling"

  <http://thinkexist.com/quotes/napoleon_bonaparte/> Napoleon Bonaparte









[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It's probably just you. I have a similar setup to yours, yet Outlook never
falls over for me, though at times it does some weird stuff or slows to a
crawl, but it has never crashed on me. I run around 1000 to 1500 messages a
week through it.

What you may want to do is to run SCANPST on your PST files, and if you are
running in cached mode, remove your OST file (copy it somewhere, just in
case) and let it be rebuilt. If you are still having problems start
disabling any add-ins you might have. Try running a repair on it. Worst
comes to worst, uninstall, clear the registry of outlook entries, and
reinstall.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:27 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Outlook 2007 unstable

Is it just me, or does Outlook 2007 crash fairly regularly if you try to do
things too quickly? I find that if I switch items rapidly it tends to die.
E.g., I come back from being away. I have a dozen or so new notes in several
mailboxes (Exchange + a half dozen POP accounts). I start flying through
them, and at some point Outlook stops responding and then falls over.

Obviously that's a pretty lousy description of the problem, but it's all I
have. I've applied all the stability patches I can find.

Is this just par for the course?

I have an outlook 2003 client that Cached Exchange Mode is not checked, but yet
it still creates an .ost

I removed and renamed the .ost restart outlook and it creates an .ost.

Any suggestions?

I thought an OST was always created when connected to an Exchange server.  The
"Cached" mode is to help with erratic connections.

Dale

--- In outlook-users@yahoogroups.com, "dmobley232" <dmobley232@...> wrote:
>
> I have an outlook 2003 client that Cached Exchange Mode is not checked, but
yet it still creates an .ost
>
> I removed and renamed the .ost restart outlook and it creates an .ost.
>
> Any suggestions?
>

Right. \\Steve// said to let it (OST) be rebuilt.  See his other comments
for more suggestions.  He's usually pretty good out here... but I can't say
the same for him elsewhere. ;-)

"What you may want to do is to run SCANPST on your PST files, and if you are
running in cached mode, remove your OST file (copy it somewhere, just in
case) and let it be rebuilt.

If you are still having problems start disabling any add-ins you might have.
Try running a repair on it. Worst comes to worst, uninstall, clear the
registry of outlook entries, and reinstall.

\\Steve// "

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-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of dmobley232
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:19 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Cached Exchange Mode not checked, outlook still creates .ost

I have an outlook 2003 client that Cached Exchange Mode is not checked, but
yet it still creates an .ost

I removed and renamed the .ost restart outlook and it creates an .ost.

Any suggestions?

Make sure you have Office 2007 Service Pack 2 installed. It increases
your storage size but adds stability. ( you can get service pack2 by
running Microsoft Update)


TIA

Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
http://www.wintra.co.il/

We don't stop playing becaue we grow old, we grow old because we stop
playing.


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Szabo
Sent: 25 November 2009 05:45
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

It's probably just you. I have a similar setup to yours, yet Outlook
never falls over for me, though at times it does some weird stuff or
slows to a crawl, but it has never crashed on me. I run around 1000 to
1500 messages a week through it.

What you may want to do is to run SCANPST on your PST files, and if you
are running in cached mode, remove your OST file (copy it somewhere,
just in
case) and let it be rebuilt. If you are still having problems start
disabling any add-ins you might have. Try running a repair on it. Worst
comes to worst, uninstall, clear the registry of outlook entries, and
reinstall.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:27 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Outlook 2007 unstable

Is it just me, or does Outlook 2007 crash fairly regularly if you try to
do things too quickly? I find that if I switch items rapidly it tends to
die.
E.g., I come back from being away. I have a dozen or so new notes in
several mailboxes (Exchange + a half dozen POP accounts). I start flying
through them, and at some point Outlook stops responding and then falls
over.

Obviously that's a pretty lousy description of the problem, but it's all
I have. I've applied all the stability patches I can find.

Is this just par for the course?




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In the advanced account settings do you have offline mode set as on?

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of dmobley232
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:19 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Cached Exchange Mode not checked, outlook still creates .ost

I have an outlook 2003 client that Cached Exchange Mode is not checked, but
yet it still creates an .ost

I removed and renamed the .ost restart outlook and it creates an .ost.

Any suggestions?

What accounts are in the profile?
Does the setting re-enable its self? If so, cached mode could be set by
policy.


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:19 PM, dmobley232 <dmobley232@...> wrote:

> I have an outlook 2003 client that Cached Exchange Mode is not checked, but
> yet it still creates an .ost
>
> I removed and renamed the .ost restart outlook and it creates an .ost.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>

--
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http://www.slipstick.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It was stable for me... what addins do you have installed?

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Phil Smith III <lists@...> wrote:

> Is it just me, or does Outlook 2007 crash fairly regularly if you try to do
> things too quickly? I find that if I switch items rapidly it tends to die.
> E.g., I come back from being away. I have a dozen or so new notes in several
> mailboxes (Exchange + a half dozen POP accounts). I start flying through
> them, and at some point Outlook stops responding and then falls over.
>
> Obviously that's a pretty lousy description of the problem, but it's all I
> have. I've applied all the stability patches I can find.
>
> Is this just par for the course?
>
>


--
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http://www.slipstick.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Steve Szabo suggested that it might be a damaged PST/OST.

Well, it happens on two machines (laptop and desktop), so I'm inclined not to
think it's a damaged PST or OST (I do run ScanPST/ScanOST fairly regularly as
well). SP2 is applied, as is some reachahead past that. I'm running over 2,000
messages per week through it. I suspect but don't have definitive evidence that
the crashes tend to occur while mail is coming in.

Diane Poremsky wrote:
>It was stable for me... what addins do you have installed?

Here are the lists of addins from the two machines; I've starred the ones that
are common:

Desktop:
   COM Addin for Microsoft Office Outlook Connector
* Microsoft Exchange Unified Messaging
   Microsoft Office Sharepoint Server Colleague Import Add-in
* Microsoft Outlook Mobile Service
* Microsoft VBA for Outlook Addin
* Outlook Change notifier
   PDFMoutlook
* Windows Search Email Indexer

Laptop:
* Microsoft Exchange Unified Messaging
* Microsoft Outlook Mobile Service
* Microsoft VBA for Outlook Addin
* Outlook Change notifier
   Voltage SecureMail
* Windows Search Email Indexer

(I like how Microsoft can't decide whether it's "Add-in" or "Addin"!)

I'm making the wild leap of faith here that disabled addins aren't significant.

I use the laptop more, so I notice the crashes there more often, but the desktop
just fell over as well - again, when I was doing too many things too quickly.
I'm a keyboard guy, so I can probably fire off events more rapidly than by
mousing.

Hmm, I just Googled these addins and found that Outlook Change notifier is from
iTunes, so I've disabled it. Also disabled Mobile Service, as I don't use it.
Will see if things stabilize and report back. For those who want to blame
Voltage SecureMail, anything's possible, but that addin doesn't come into play
until a note is opened (or being actively sent) and the observed behavior
doesn't support those times as when it crashes. Plus it's only on the one
machine. Plus it's a product from my company :-)

...phsiii

FWIW...Just moved to Office 2010 this week and used 2007 for the better part
of 2 years and never had any issues with Outlook 2007 crashing as you
describe.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Kirk Shelley <kirkshelley@...> wrote:

>
>
> Is it just me, or does Outlook 2007 crash fairly regularly if you try to do
> things too quickly? - Phil Smith
>
> Phil, I noticed the same thing when I did an update at the end of October.
> I even did system restores before the Oct. 28th patch but that has not
> completely taken care of the problem. I've sent a note to Microsoft and
> been looking at their blogs but no one else has mentioned it until your
> post. It is so bad I'm looking at Google Aps.
>
> Kirk Shelley
>
> "A man occupied with public or other important business cannot, and need
> not, attend to spelling"
>
> <http://thinkexist.com/quotes/napoleon_bonaparte/> Napoleon Bonaparte
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yeap, i was going to say it was change notifier...

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Phil Smith III <lists@...> wrote:

> Hmm, I just Googled these addins and found that Outlook Change notifier is
> from iTunes, so I've disabled it. Also disabled Mobile Service, as I don't
> use it. Will see if things stabilize and report back. For those who want to
> blame Voltage SecureMail, anything's possible, but that addin doesn't come
> into play until a note is opened (or being actively sent) and the observed
> behavior doesn't support those times as when it crashes. Plus it's only on
> the one machine. Plus it's a product from my company :-)
>
>
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http://www.slipstick.com


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I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable whenever
trying to complete something other than basic application operations. Just my
opinion derived from working with Office 2007 which is the reason I have
retained Office 2000 as a back up!
 




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

There is something wrong with your setup then, because Office 2007 is 100
times more stable than 2000.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Clyde Peters <mcguanpark@...> wrote:

> I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
> whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
> operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007 which is
> the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!
>
>
>
>
>

--
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http://www.outlook-tips.net
http://www.slipstick.com


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Hello Clyde,



Do you have enough CPU power and RAM to run the Office 2007 applications?



The reason I ask is that I use all of the Office applications and do some
heavy processing in Excel. My system is five years old and has an OS of
XP/SP3; Pentium 4, 3.20GHz, and 3GB RAM. I have had this software for many
months now and have yet to experience an issue with them.



And as a side-note, I run many applications at the same time. For example, I
currently have Internet Explorer 8 open with five tabs active (I use this
for a Yahoo account, to log into my college and to Adobe.com); FireFox 3.5.5
with four tabs active (another Yahoo account email, Yahoo account groups,
and two Google sessions); Outlook 2007; Windows Explorer (to access my class
projects); Adobe Acrobat 9 (working my Adobe class projects); Excel (when I
take a few minutes break from school work, I am working on a complex
spreadsheet for work).



This is fairly typical of my computer usage - having multiple applications
and tabs going at once. Even when I'm using Dreamweaver or Photoshop, which
are supposed to be "resource hogs", I have not experienced any problems. IE8
has never given me a hint of a problem; neither has FF; and I'm learning
more about Chrome.



Call me lucky I guess. The only times I've noticed any problems are
downloads of programs online (from reputable freebie sites) or an occasional
Microsoft update (.NET Framework was the most recent). I create restore
points before any of these installing on my computer and yes, I've had to go
back a few times.



So, this long-winded reply is simply saying that you should look at your
resources to ensure you're "slamming" the true cause of your computer's
issues. If you think it is the application(s) in 2007 - give some specific
examples and someone may be able to assist you.



Gil



From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Clyde Peters
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:35 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable





I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007 which is
the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I completely agree with you Diane!



Gil



From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Diane Poremsky
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:40 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable





There is something wrong with your setup then, because Office 2007 is 100
times more stable than 2000.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Clyde Peters <mcguanpark@...
<mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
> whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
> operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007 which is
> the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!
>
>
>
>
>

--
Diane Poremsky
http://www.outlook-tips.net
http://www.slipstick.com






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

And I, with you, Gil. I even believe that though there were problems
with Vista, most of them were caused by people trying to run it on an
old machine. You just have to get used to it, whether you think it is a
Wintel conspiracy, or not, you need to change your PC every 3 years.
Otherwise you pay for it with work loss or reduced
production/effectiveness.


TIA

Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
http://www.wintra.co.il/

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop
playing.


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gil
Sent: 26 November 2009 17:58
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Cc: gil@...
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

I completely agree with you Diane!



Gil



From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Diane Poremsky
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:40 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable





There is something wrong with your setup then, because Office 2007 is
100 times more stable than 2000.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Clyde Peters <mcguanpark@...
<mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
> whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
> operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007
> which is the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!
>
>
>
>
>

--
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http://www.outlook-tips.net
http://www.slipstick.com






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Excellent point Steven!



As another example, I am seeing so many posts in different groups, forums
and sites about problems with Windows 7. I wonder how many are upgrading
from XP without doing a clean install. How many have an older PC that will
not accommodate the features found in 7. How many people are trying to use
older software and expect it to work on 7. There are many factors and one
needs to do their homework before making decisions such as this.



Me? I would very much like to run 7 at the house. I can even get a great
discount on it because of being a student. However, using the program
Microsoft provided, Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor, I found there were several
things lacking on my PC. I got warning flags for Windows Aero Support,
ArcSoft Print Creations, ATI Catalyst Control Center, Broadcom Advanced
Control, Symantec Endpoint Protection, Tweak UI, and Virtualization
Technology not Supported.



True, several of them are not really an issue, but some are. So I will need
to wait and upgrade my PC. I really can't say when because my current PC is
doing great for me (it's a Dell Dimension 8400, which I ordered with many of
the upper end features in 2004 - knowing I'd be keeping it awhile).



Bottom line is user knowledge. Heck, my wife found a site that will check
her system for errors today (on her laptop). Fortunately I caught her before
she downloaded and installed the file. I checked the site out and found its
one of those typical sites that will check your system out alright, but you
get pop-ups every 30 minutes or so wanting you to buy their software. Try to
get rid  of that easily!



Happy Thanksgiving.



I aced my Acrobat test this morning and I'm going to watch some football.



Gil



From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steven Teiger
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:55 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable





And I, with you, Gil. I even believe that though there were problems
with Vista, most of them were caused by people trying to run it on an
old machine. You just have to get used to it, whether you think it is a
Wintel conspiracy, or not, you need to change your PC every 3 years.
Otherwise you pay for it with work loss or reduced
production/effectiveness.

TIA

Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
http://www.wintra.co.il/

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop
playing.

-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gil
Sent: 26 November 2009 17:58
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: gil@... <mailto:gil%40kgcrafts.com>
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

I completely agree with you Diane!

Gil

From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Diane Poremsky
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:40 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable

There is something wrong with your setup then, because Office 2007 is
100 times more stable than 2000.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Clyde Peters <mcguanpark@...
<mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
> whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
> operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007
> which is the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!
>
>
>
>
>

--
Diane Poremsky
http://www.outlook-tips.net
http://www.slipstick.com






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It was my understanding that you could not upgrade from XP without doing a
clean install of the OS. In any case, one should not move to another OS on
an existing machine without doing a clean (bare metal) install. You have too
much of a chance of bringing along old problems, and, perhaps, problems you
did not know existed yet to the new OS.

The problems people who have done this mainly involve software or hardware
that have been already documented not to work with Windows 7.

Anyhow, wish me luck. I am installing SBS 2008 on a new server, and
migrating the old SBS 2003 server over the weekend.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gil
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:47 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Cc: gil@...
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

Excellent point Steven!



As another example, I am seeing so many posts in different groups, forums
and sites about problems with Windows 7. I wonder how many are upgrading
from XP without doing a clean install. How many have an older PC that will
not accommodate the features found in 7. How many people are trying to use
older software and expect it to work on 7. There are many factors and one
needs to do their homework before making decisions such as this.



Me? I would very much like to run 7 at the house. I can even get a great
discount on it because of being a student. However, using the program
Microsoft provided, Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor, I found there were several
things lacking on my PC. I got warning flags for Windows Aero Support,
ArcSoft Print Creations, ATI Catalyst Control Center, Broadcom Advanced
Control, Symantec Endpoint Protection, Tweak UI, and Virtualization
Technology not Supported.



True, several of them are not really an issue, but some are. So I will need
to wait and upgrade my PC. I really can't say when because my current PC is
doing great for me (it's a Dell Dimension 8400, which I ordered with many of
the upper end features in 2004 - knowing I'd be keeping it awhile).



Bottom line is user knowledge. Heck, my wife found a site that will check
her system for errors today (on her laptop). Fortunately I caught her before
she downloaded and installed the file. I checked the site out and found its
one of those typical sites that will check your system out alright, but you
get pop-ups every 30 minutes or so wanting you to buy their software. Try to
get rid  of that easily!



Happy Thanksgiving.



I aced my Acrobat test this morning and I'm going to watch some football.



Gil



From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steven Teiger
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:55 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable





And I, with you, Gil. I even believe that though there were problems
with Vista, most of them were caused by people trying to run it on an
old machine. You just have to get used to it, whether you think it is a
Wintel conspiracy, or not, you need to change your PC every 3 years.
Otherwise you pay for it with work loss or reduced
production/effectiveness.

TIA

Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
http://www.wintra.co.il/

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop
playing.

-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gil
Sent: 26 November 2009 17:58
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: gil@... <mailto:gil%40kgcrafts.com>
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

I completely agree with you Diane!

Gil

From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Diane Poremsky
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:40 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable

There is something wrong with your setup then, because Office 2007 is
100 times more stable than 2000.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Clyde Peters <mcguanpark@...
<mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
> whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
> operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007
> which is the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!
>
>
>
>
>

--
Diane Poremsky
http://www.outlook-tips.net
http://www.slipstick.com

That is my understanding also. You cannot install Win 7 atop XP. At least,
that is my experience.

I have now tried several Win 7 installs. I bought a three pack. I had hell's
own trouble on my XP machine, until I found that the sata drivers caused
BSODs. After a week in Google land, I found new drives that worked. I am now
well impressed by Win 7.

The good thing is that Win 7 is good at creating its own dual-boot system,
something that geeks worked hard to achieve.

Even on an old PC, with a slower processor and less memory, Win 7 performs
better than Vista on younger kit, albeit I have not slapped all of my
software on to the Win 7 box. (It is on one that I keep for backups and the
like.)

I also tried slapping Win 7 on to my year-old Vista portable as an upgrade
rather than clean install. Disaster. Never got through tot he update stage
that would make it work.

Went back to Vista. I had imaged the Vista setup. Anyone contemplating an
upgrade should take all the backup measures they can think of.

MK






2009/11/26 Steve Szabo <steve@...>

>
>
> It was my understanding that you could not upgrade from XP without doing a
> clean install of the OS. In any case, one should not move to another OS on
> an existing machine without doing a clean (bare metal) install. You have
> too
> much of a chance of bringing along old problems, and, perhaps, problems you
> did not know existed yet to the new OS.
>
> The problems people who have done this mainly involve software or hardware
> that have been already documented not to work with Windows 7.
>
> Anyhow, wish me luck. I am installing SBS 2008 on a new server, and
> migrating the old SBS 2003 server over the weekend.
>
> \\Steve//
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Gil
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:47 PM
> To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: gil@... <gil%40kgcrafts.com>
> Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable
>
> Excellent point Steven!
>
> As another example, I am seeing so many posts in different groups, forums
> and sites about problems with Windows 7. I wonder how many are upgrading
> from XP without doing a clean install. How many have an older PC that will
> not accommodate the features found in 7. How many people are trying to use
> older software and expect it to work on 7. There are many factors and one
> needs to do their homework before making decisions such as this.
>
> Me? I would very much like to run 7 at the house. I can even get a great
> discount on it because of being a student. However, using the program
> Microsoft provided, Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor, I found there were several
> things lacking on my PC. I got warning flags for Windows Aero Support,
> ArcSoft Print Creations, ATI Catalyst Control Center, Broadcom Advanced
> Control, Symantec Endpoint Protection, Tweak UI, and Virtualization
> Technology not Supported.
>
> True, several of them are not really an issue, but some are. So I will need
> to wait and upgrade my PC. I really can't say when because my current PC is
> doing great for me (it's a Dell Dimension 8400, which I ordered with many
> of
> the upper end features in 2004 - knowing I'd be keeping it awhile).
>
> Bottom line is user knowledge. Heck, my wife found a site that will check
> her system for errors today (on her laptop). Fortunately I caught her
> before
> she downloaded and installed the file. I checked the site out and found its
> one of those typical sites that will check your system out alright, but you
> get pop-ups every 30 minutes or so wanting you to buy their software. Try
> to
> get rid of that easily!
>
> Happy Thanksgiving.
>
> I aced my Acrobat test this morning and I'm going to watch some football.
>
> Gil
>
> From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Steven Teiger
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:55 AM
> To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable
>
> And I, with you, Gil. I even believe that though there were problems
> with Vista, most of them were caused by people trying to run it on an
> old machine. You just have to get used to it, whether you think it is a
> Wintel conspiracy, or not, you need to change your PC every 3 years.
> Otherwise you pay for it with work loss or reduced
> production/effectiveness.
>
> TIA
>
> Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
> http://www.wintra.co.il/
>
> We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop
> playing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com<outlook-users%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> ] On Behalf Of Gil
> Sent: 26 November 2009 17:58
> To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> Cc: gil@... <gil%40kgcrafts.com>
<mailto:gil%40kgcrafts.com<gil%2540kgcrafts.com>>
>
> Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable
>
> I completely agree with you Diane!
>
> Gil
>
> From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com<outlook-users%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> ]
> On Behalf Of Diane Poremsky
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:40 AM
> To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com <outlook-users%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable
>
> There is something wrong with your setup then, because Office 2007 is
> 100 times more stable than 2000.
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Clyde Peters
<mcguanpark@...<mcguanpark%40yahoo.com>
> <mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com <mcguanpark%2540yahoo.com>>
> <mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com <mcguanpark%2540yahoo.com>> > wrote:
>
> > I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
> > whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
> > operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007
> > which is the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky
> http://www.outlook-tips.net
> http://www.slipstick.com
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Moving from XP to Win7 is a wet dream. No! Not what you were thinking.
It uses WET (windows easy transfer) and it works like a dream! After it
saves your settings and files (especially your Outlook ones), it tells
you which applications you need to transfer (i.e. reinstall) to your new
machine also.


TIA

Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
http://www.wintra.co.il/

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop
playing.


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Szabo
Sent: 26 November 2009 22:46
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

It was my understanding that you could not upgrade from XP without doing
a clean install of the OS. In any case, one should not move to another
OS on an existing machine without doing a clean (bare metal) install.
You have too much of a chance of bringing along old problems, and,
perhaps, problems you did not know existed yet to the new OS.

The problems people who have done this mainly involve software or
hardware that have been already documented not to work with Windows 7.

Anyhow, wish me luck. I am installing SBS 2008 on a new server, and
migrating the old SBS 2003 server over the weekend.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gil
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:47 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Cc: gil@...
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

Excellent point Steven!



As another example, I am seeing so many posts in different groups,
forums and sites about problems with Windows 7. I wonder how many are
upgrading from XP without doing a clean install. How many have an older
PC that will not accommodate the features found in 7. How many people
are trying to use older software and expect it to work on 7. There are
many factors and one needs to do their homework before making decisions
such as this.



Me? I would very much like to run 7 at the house. I can even get a great
discount on it because of being a student. However, using the program
Microsoft provided, Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor, I found there were
several things lacking on my PC. I got warning flags for Windows Aero
Support, ArcSoft Print Creations, ATI Catalyst Control Center, Broadcom
Advanced Control, Symantec Endpoint Protection, Tweak UI, and
Virtualization Technology not Supported.



True, several of them are not really an issue, but some are. So I will
need to wait and upgrade my PC. I really can't say when because my
current PC is doing great for me (it's a Dell Dimension 8400, which I
ordered with many of the upper end features in 2004 - knowing I'd be
keeping it awhile).



Bottom line is user knowledge. Heck, my wife found a site that will
check her system for errors today (on her laptop). Fortunately I caught
her before she downloaded and installed the file. I checked the site out
and found its one of those typical sites that will check your system out
alright, but you get pop-ups every 30 minutes or so wanting you to buy
their software. Try to get rid  of that easily!



Happy Thanksgiving.



I aced my Acrobat test this morning and I'm going to watch some
football.



Gil



From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steven Teiger
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:55 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable





And I, with you, Gil. I even believe that though there were problems
with Vista, most of them were caused by people trying to run it on an
old machine. You just have to get used to it, whether you think it is a
Wintel conspiracy, or not, you need to change your PC every 3 years.
Otherwise you pay for it with work loss or reduced
production/effectiveness.

TIA

Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
http://www.wintra.co.il/

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop
playing.

-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gil
Sent: 26 November 2009 17:58
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: gil@... <mailto:gil%40kgcrafts.com>
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

I completely agree with you Diane!

Gil

From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Diane Poremsky
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:40 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable

There is something wrong with your setup then, because Office 2007 is
100 times more stable than 2000.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Clyde Peters <mcguanpark@...
<mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com> <mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
> whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
> operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007
> which is the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!
>
>
>
>
>

--
Diane Poremsky
http://www.outlook-tips.net
http://www.slipstick.com





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Has Windows Easy Transfer improved all that much? I have always found it
easier to do the transfer manually, and reconfigure what needs to be
reconfigured. Took less time that way. I've always heard glowing reports
about it since the first version they had, but have never been able to
duplicate the results of others I have seen online and in the press. I've
always thought of them to be shills. The other techs I work with feel the
same way.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steven Teiger
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:46 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

Moving from XP to Win7 is a wet dream. No! Not what you were thinking.
It uses WET (windows easy transfer) and it works like a dream! After it
saves your settings and files (especially your Outlook ones), it tells
you which applications you need to transfer (i.e. reinstall) to your new
machine also.


TIA

Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
http://www.wintra.co.il/

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop
playing.


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Szabo
Sent: 26 November 2009 22:46
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

It was my understanding that you could not upgrade from XP without doing
a clean install of the OS. In any case, one should not move to another
OS on an existing machine without doing a clean (bare metal) install.
You have too much of a chance of bringing along old problems, and,
perhaps, problems you did not know existed yet to the new OS.

The problems people who have done this mainly involve software or
hardware that have been already documented not to work with Windows 7.

Anyhow, wish me luck. I am installing SBS 2008 on a new server, and
migrating the old SBS 2003 server over the weekend.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gil
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:47 PM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Cc: gil@...
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

Excellent point Steven!



As another example, I am seeing so many posts in different groups,
forums and sites about problems with Windows 7. I wonder how many are
upgrading from XP without doing a clean install. How many have an older
PC that will not accommodate the features found in 7. How many people
are trying to use older software and expect it to work on 7. There are
many factors and one needs to do their homework before making decisions
such as this.



Me? I would very much like to run 7 at the house. I can even get a great
discount on it because of being a student. However, using the program
Microsoft provided, Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor, I found there were
several things lacking on my PC. I got warning flags for Windows Aero
Support, ArcSoft Print Creations, ATI Catalyst Control Center, Broadcom
Advanced Control, Symantec Endpoint Protection, Tweak UI, and
Virtualization Technology not Supported.



True, several of them are not really an issue, but some are. So I will
need to wait and upgrade my PC. I really can't say when because my
current PC is doing great for me (it's a Dell Dimension 8400, which I
ordered with many of the upper end features in 2004 - knowing I'd be
keeping it awhile).



Bottom line is user knowledge. Heck, my wife found a site that will
check her system for errors today (on her laptop). Fortunately I caught
her before she downloaded and installed the file. I checked the site out
and found its one of those typical sites that will check your system out
alright, but you get pop-ups every 30 minutes or so wanting you to buy
their software. Try to get rid  of that easily!



Happy Thanksgiving.



I aced my Acrobat test this morning and I'm going to watch some
football.



Gil



From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steven Teiger
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:55 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable





And I, with you, Gil. I even believe that though there were problems
with Vista, most of them were caused by people trying to run it on an
old machine. You just have to get used to it, whether you think it is a
Wintel conspiracy, or not, you need to change your PC every 3 years.
Otherwise you pay for it with work loss or reduced
production/effectiveness.

TIA

Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
http://www.wintra.co.il/

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop
playing.

-----Original Message-----
From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gil
Sent: 26 November 2009 17:58
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: gil@... <mailto:gil%40kgcrafts.com>
Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 unstable

I completely agree with you Diane!

Gil

From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
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[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Diane Poremsky
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:40 AM
To: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:outlook-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable

There is something wrong with your setup then, because Office 2007 is
100 times more stable than 2000.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Clyde Peters <mcguanpark@...
<mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com> <mailto:mcguanpark%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> I have experienced that most of Office 2007 applications are unstable
> whenever trying to complete something other than basic application
> operations. Just my opinion derived from working with Office 2007
> which is the reason I have retained Office 2000 as a back up!
>
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--
Diane Poremsky
http://www.outlook-tips.net
http://www.slipstick.com

I totally disagree with you and so do many of the computer technicians I deal
with weekly. I do not use Outlook from any version of Office but I use Outlook
Express, without problem, since Office 2000 came out. I continue to also use
Access, Excel, Word, and Publisher 2000 without any problems.
 
I teach PCs at our Senior Center and many of my students have cited encountering
problems with Outlook 2007 when attempting to execute capabilities other than
basic stuff.
 
And ......, no there is nothing wrong with my set up.   I may not be an MVP but
I have been using Microsoft Windows & Office since 95 came out and I have also
been teaching each version right up to Vista     which is installed on my wife's
laptop. (I made a poor choice when I purchased Vista.)
 




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Hmm, I use Outlook and develop on it (have been for over 11 years now),
admittedly earlier versions have been pretty awful but since 2003 I have
had little to no issues with the product. Yes other email clients do
have features that we are only just starting to see in Outlook
2007/2010, but since it is Microsoft's main application for Exchange
connectivity, and the sheer number of users of the application, we can't
expect them to be able to change to much at once. Look at all the flack
they got from introducing the Ribbon, which in my opinion is fantastic.
The Object Model is now better than ever for developers, the ability to
integrate third part controls into the UI is great, there is now almost
no need to go into the Extended MAPI layer, which earlier versions
required quite an intimate knowledge of.



I guess if you want to stay with older apps then that is a very personal
choice, but some of the new capabilities in later versions of the
applications are truly valuable when the user base knows how to use
them. It's all down to education of the new applications abilities,
which isn't Microsoft's job, I do believe that needs to come from the
corporations/businesses who purchase the licenses, to ensure their
investment in the new products isn't wasted. Or course Microsoft provide
so much training material for free, there are so many websites devoted
to the applications, really there is little excuse for the lack of
training provided to end users.



As for Vista, hey, isn't it amazing how many users forgot about all the
problems with Windows XP, pre SP1, then the many fixes and improvements
that MS provided in SP2. Vista wasn't what MS promised at the beginning,
but without Vista you wouldn't have Windows 7, which is truly a great
OS.









From: outlook-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:outlook-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clyde Peters
Sent: Friday, 27 November 2009 1:43 p.m.
To: Jason
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007 unstable





I totally disagree with you and so do many of the computer technicians I
deal with weekly. I do not use Outlook from any version of Office but I
use Outlook Express, without problem, since Office 2000 came out. I
continue to also use Access, Excel, Word, and Publisher 2000 without any
problems.

I teach PCs at our Senior Center and many of my students have cited
encountering problems with Outlook 2007 when attempting to execute
capabilities other than basic stuff.

And ......, no there is nothing wrong with my set up.   I may not be an
MVP but I have been using Microsoft Windows & Office since 95 came out
and I have also been teaching each version right up to Vista     which
is installed on my wife's laptop. (I made a poor choice when I purchased
Vista.)


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