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#12548 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Wed Jan 7, 2009 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: onmouseover and onclick (link) on same page?
siblingchris
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > I've been using overlib for quite some time, but I've just got
> > totally stumped with it.
> >
> > I'm using it on a form initially for tooltips on the form
elements.
> > It works great.
> >
> > I've now decided to use it to also display a "contact us" popup
box
> > rather than using window.open which is not so customisable.
> >
> > So I have a hyper link with href="#" and the onClick set to call
> > overlib, with CLOSECLICK and STICKY options on
> >
> > What happens is that once I click on the link and the "contact
us"
> > popup displays, but if I then move the mouse over one of the form
> > elements that uses overlib for tooltips the "contact us" popup
> > closes.
> >
> > So it sort of negates the STICKY and CLOSECLIK options
> >
> > anyone no a way round this? Any ideas greatly appreciated
> >
> > cheers
> > C
> >
>
> Take a look at the Exclusive Plugin which should do what you want to
> do.  It introduces the EXCLUSIVE parameter which keeps a STICKY
popup
> from closing until it is explicitly dismissed.  You can look at its
> description by going to
> http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/exclusive_commands.html  If you
use
> this plugin then make sure that you also use the core module
> (overlib.js) that can be found at this site with it.  DON'T MIX THE
> ORIGINAL CORE MODULE WITHANY PLUGIN ON THIS SITE.
>

thanks - I'll give it a shot

#12549 From: "Greg Walsh" <piperthor@...>
Date: Wed Jan 7, 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: OverLib core
rhubarb67
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I've recently upgraded my home computer due to an HD problem.  As a
result, I've lost overlib.js and unfortunately found that I've no
backup.  I've tried the original site by Eric Bosrup but apparently
the site is down because I'm receiving either a "Timeout" or "Page not
found" error.  Is there another site available where I can download
the overlib code?

Thank you;
Greg Walsh

#12550 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Wed Jan 7, 2009 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: OverLib core
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Walsh" <piperthor@...> wrote:
>
> I've recently upgraded my home computer due to an HD problem.  As a
> result, I've lost overlib.js and unfortunately found that I've no
> backup.  I've tried the original site by Eric Bosrup but apparently
> the site is down because I'm receiving either a "Timeout" or "Page not
> found" error.  Is there another site available where I can download
> the overlib code?
>
> Thank you;
> Greg Walsh
>

You can get it at
http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/overlib_commands.html.  Just make
sure that any plugins you use are also gotten from this site so that
everything is compatible.

#12551 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Wed Jan 7, 2009 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: onmouseover and onclick (link) on same page?
siblingchris
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@...> wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > I've been using overlib for quite some time, but I've just got
> > > totally stumped with it.
> > >
> > > I'm using it on a form initially for tooltips on the form
> elements.
> > > It works great.
> > >
> > > I've now decided to use it to also display a "contact us" popup
> box
> > > rather than using window.open which is not so customisable.
> > >
> > > So I have a hyper link with href="#" and the onClick set to
call
> > > overlib, with CLOSECLICK and STICKY options on
> > >
> > > What happens is that once I click on the link and the "contact
> us"
> > > popup displays, but if I then move the mouse over one of the
form
> > > elements that uses overlib for tooltips the "contact us" popup
> > > closes.
> > >
> > > So it sort of negates the STICKY and CLOSECLIK options
> > >
> > > anyone no a way round this? Any ideas greatly appreciated
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > C
> > >
> >
> > Take a look at the Exclusive Plugin which should do what you want
to
> > do.  It introduces the EXCLUSIVE parameter which keeps a STICKY
> popup
> > from closing until it is explicitly dismissed.  You can look at
its
> > description by going to
> > http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/exclusive_commands.html  If
you
> use
> > this plugin then make sure that you also use the core module
> > (overlib.js) that can be found at this site with it.  DON'T MIX
THE
> > ORIGINAL CORE MODULE WITHANY PLUGIN ON THIS SITE.
> >
>
> thanks - I'll give it a shot
>


sorry must be blind! where do I find the core overlib.js file frmo
your site? don;t seem to be able to spot it.

also bosrup.com seems to be down for links to docs....

thanks

#12552 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Wed Jan 7, 2009 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: onmouseover and onclick (link) on same page?
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@...> wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > >
> > > > I've been using overlib for quite some time, but I've just got
> > > > totally stumped with it.
> > > >
> > > > I'm using it on a form initially for tooltips on the form
> > elements.
> > > > It works great.
> > > >
> > > > I've now decided to use it to also display a "contact us" popup
> > box
> > > > rather than using window.open which is not so customisable.
> > > >
> > > > So I have a hyper link with href="#" and the onClick set to
> call
> > > > overlib, with CLOSECLICK and STICKY options on
> > > >
> > > > What happens is that once I click on the link and the "contact
> > us"
> > > > popup displays, but if I then move the mouse over one of the
> form
> > > > elements that uses overlib for tooltips the "contact us" popup
> > > > closes.
> > > >
> > > > So it sort of negates the STICKY and CLOSECLIK options
> > > >
> > > > anyone no a way round this? Any ideas greatly appreciated
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > C
> > > >
> > >
> > > Take a look at the Exclusive Plugin which should do what you want
> to
> > > do.  It introduces the EXCLUSIVE parameter which keeps a STICKY
> > popup
> > > from closing until it is explicitly dismissed.  You can look at
> its
> > > description by going to
> > > http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/exclusive_commands.html  If
> you
> > use
> > > this plugin then make sure that you also use the core module
> > > (overlib.js) that can be found at this site with it.  DON'T MIX
> THE
> > > ORIGINAL CORE MODULE WITHANY PLUGIN ON THIS SITE.
> > >
> >
> > thanks - I'll give it a shot
> >
>
>
> sorry must be blind! where do I find the core overlib.js file frmo
> your site? don;t seem to be able to spot it.
>
> also bosrup.com seems to be down for links to docs....
>
> thanks
>

There is a link to the Core Module on the right hand side bar.  If you
still don't see it then go to
htpp://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/overlib_commands.html

#12553 From: "Greg Walsh" <piperthor@...>
Date: Wed Jan 7, 2009 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: OverLib core
rhubarb67
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Thank you Robert.  I did find a version of overLIB (I think).  Called
overLIBMWS; however, I was reluctant to download/use it because I
didn't find any mention of the original overLIB core in it (other than
Eric's name).  Have you heard of this version?

The link is:  http://www.macridesweb.com/oltest/


Greg Walsh

--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Walsh" <piperthor@> wrote:
> >
> > I've recently upgraded my home computer due to an HD problem.  As a
> > result, I've lost overlib.js and unfortunately found that I've no
> > backup.  I've tried the original site by Eric Bosrup but apparently
> > the site is down because I'm receiving either a "Timeout" or "Page not
> > found" error.  Is there another site available where I can download
> > the overlib code?
> >
> > Thank you;
> > Greg Walsh
> >
>
> You can get it at
> http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/overlib_commands.html.  Just make
> sure that any plugins you use are also gotten from this site so that
> everything is compatible.
>

#12554 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 12:07 pm
Subject: call function on open and close of a popup?
siblingchris
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Hi

I am trying to work out if it is possible to call a custom function as
a popup is displayed and then call a different function when the popup
closes.

the reason I am trying to do this is that I am trying to use the popup
as a modal dialogue and therefore would use an "on open" function to
disable other page content and then "on close" to renable it

any ideas anyone?

maybe there is a plugin that does this or it would be easy to write a
new plugin?

#12555 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: call function on open and close of a popup?
siblingchris
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am trying to work out if it is possible to call a custom function
as
> a popup is displayed and then call a different function when the
popup
> closes.
>
> the reason I am trying to do this is that I am trying to use the
popup
> as a modal dialogue and therefore would use an "on open" function
to
> disable other page content and then "on close" to renable it
>
> any ideas anyone?
>
> maybe there is a plugin that does this or it would be easy to write
a
> new plugin?
>


Not sure if it is the correct way, but I have attempted to write a
plugin to do this task

I am not sure I have done it 100% in the best practice way, but it
works at least for calling a function before displaying the pop-up

I put it in the files section here in the siblingchris folder
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0PhlSV6nbuNA9mEmfiPHQL69L8MM_pNeu5Miz0HGw
KfgLZIfc4mxuoQHzeVa3j8q1K7NF-
soAaGO7jWp2WMULgIgbEUTmyDHN0M4YTA/siblingchris/overlib_openclosefuncti
on.js

so if you put this on the command line "hello" would be displayed in
a message box before the popup displays...

ONOPEN, alert('hello')


Now what I can;t work out is how to do a similar thing when the popup
closes.

I tried creating a function to execute after "disp" and then
after "cClick" and then to replace "cClick" but these all seemed to
run before the popup displayed instead

registerHook('disp', CallCloseFunction, FAFTER);
registerHook('cClick', CallCloseFunction, FAFTER);
registerHook('cClick', CallCloseFunction, FREPLACE);


So now I'm a bit stumped

Robert - would really appreciate your advice on this

thanks

#12556 From: "Tim Turner" <tturner@...>
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 6:42 pm
Subject: Image background load returns false in IE6 on XP
turnertim
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Hello,

I am trying to have an image appear onMouseOver using overlib.

I'm doing this by loading the image in the BACKGROUD of the overlib.

This works fine on Fireworks but on IE6 just returns the text "false".

Has anyone seen this?

Code below

<A href="javascript:void(0);" onmouseover="return
overlib('<BR>',BACKGROUND,'http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-owners/images/a
uto-owners-profit-sharing-table.jpg',HEIGHT,
231,WIDTH,571,FGCOLOR,'#cae2fa',0,MOUSEOFF,CELLPAD,5, TEXTFONT,
'Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif');" onmouseout="return nd();"><IMG
SRC="/images/help.gif" width=16 height=16></A>


Regards,
-Tim

#12557 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: OverLib core
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Walsh" <piperthor@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you Robert.  I did find a version of overLIB (I think).  Called
> overLIBMWS; however, I was reluctant to download/use it because I
> didn't find any mention of the original overLIB core in it (other than
> Eric's name).  Have you heard of this version?
>
> The link is:  http://www.macridesweb.com/oltest/
>
>
> Greg Walsh
>

Yes, I've heard of it but it is not compatible with the overLIB by
Bosrup or mine either for that matter.

#12558 From: "Greg Walsh" <piperthor@...>
Date: Wed Jan 7, 2009 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: [oL] Re: OverLib core
rhubarb67
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Thank you Robert.  I did find a version of overLIB (I think).  Called overLIBMWS; however, I was reluctant to download/use it because I didn't find any mention of the original overLIB core in it (other than Eric's name).  Have you heard of this version?

The link is:  http://www.macridesweb.com/oltest/


Greg Walsh



On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Robert E Boughner <rboughner1@...> wrote:

--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Walsh" <piperthor@...> wrote:
>
> I've recently upgraded my home computer due to an HD problem. As a
> result, I've lost overlib.js and unfortunately found that I've no
> backup. I've tried the original site by Eric Bosrup but apparently
> the site is down because I'm receiving either a "Timeout" or "Page not
> found" error. Is there another site available where I can download
> the overlib code?
>
> Thank you;
> Greg Walsh
>

You can get it at
http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/overlib_commands.html. Just make
sure that any plugins you use are also gotten from this site so that
everything is compatible.



#12559 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: call function on open and close of a popup?
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@...> wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I am trying to work out if it is possible to call a custom function
> as
> > a popup is displayed and then call a different function when the
> popup
> > closes.
> >
> > the reason I am trying to do this is that I am trying to use the
> popup
> > as a modal dialogue and therefore would use an "on open" function
> to
> > disable other page content and then "on close" to renable it
> >
> > any ideas anyone?
> >
> > maybe there is a plugin that does this or it would be easy to write
> a
> > new plugin?
> >
>
>
> Not sure if it is the correct way, but I have attempted to write a
> plugin to do this task
>
> I am not sure I have done it 100% in the best practice way, but it
> works at least for calling a function before displaying the pop-up
>
> I put it in the files section here in the siblingchris folder
> http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0PhlSV6nbuNA9mEmfiPHQL69L8MM_pNeu5Miz0HGw
> KfgLZIfc4mxuoQHzeVa3j8q1K7NF-
> soAaGO7jWp2WMULgIgbEUTmyDHN0M4YTA/siblingchris/overlib_openclosefuncti
> on.js
>
> so if you put this on the command line "hello" would be displayed in
> a message box before the popup displays...
>
> ONOPEN, alert('hello')
>
>
> Now what I can;t work out is how to do a similar thing when the popup
> closes.
>
> I tried creating a function to execute after "disp" and then
> after "cClick" and then to replace "cClick" but these all seemed to
> run before the popup displayed instead
>
> registerHook('disp', CallCloseFunction, FAFTER);
> registerHook('cClick', CallCloseFunction, FAFTER);
> registerHook('cClick', CallCloseFunction, FREPLACE);
>
>
> So now I'm a bit stumped
>
> Robert - would really appreciate your advice on this
>
> thanks
>

Chris,

You might want to take a look at this page:

http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/plugin_description.html

which is the original proposal for plugins.

Many functions will call functions both before they execute and after
they execute but before they exit. You might want to look into
"showObject()" and "hideObject()" which both call functions that are
registered before and after they execute.  The popup obj is the
argument to these functions.  For closing, I would concentrate on the
hideObject() function and the function that it calls after the popup
has been made invisible.

#12560 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 10:19 pm
Subject: Re: Image background load returns false in IE6 on XP
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Turner" <tturner@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to have an image appear onMouseOver using overlib.
>
> I'm doing this by loading the image in the BACKGROUD of the overlib.
>
> This works fine on Fireworks but on IE6 just returns the text "false".
>
> Has anyone seen this?
>
> Code below
>
> <A href="javascript:void(0);" onmouseover="return
>
overlib('<BR>',BACKGROUND,'http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-owners/images/a
> uto-owners-profit-sharing-table.jpg',HEIGHT,
> 231,WIDTH,571,FGCOLOR,'#cae2fa',0,MOUSEOFF,CELLPAD,5, TEXTFONT,
> 'Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif');" onmouseout="return nd();"><IMG
> SRC="/images/help.gif" width=16 height=16></A>
>
>
> Regards,
> -Tim
>

It doesn't appear that you are having any text visible so why don't
you just use '<img
src=\"http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-owners/images/auto-owners-profit-sharing\
-table.jpg\"
width=\"571\" height=\"231\"' as the leading argument. Also what is
the "0" between you FGCOLOR value and the MOUSEOFF command.  Make sure
that src argument appears on one line and is not split between
multiple lines.  Other than that I have no ideas what is causing you
problems.

#12561 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 10:06 am
Subject: Re: Image background load returns false in IE6 on XP
siblingchris
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Turner" <tturner@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to have an image appear onMouseOver using overlib.
> >
> > I'm doing this by loading the image in the BACKGROUD of the
overlib.
> >
> > This works fine on Fireworks but on IE6 just returns the
text "false".
> >
> > Has anyone seen this?
> >
> > Code below
> >
> > <A href="javascript:void(0);" onmouseover="return
> >
> overlib('<BR>',BACKGROUND,'http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-
owners/images/a
> > uto-owners-profit-sharing-table.jpg',HEIGHT,
> > 231,WIDTH,571,FGCOLOR,'#cae2fa',0,MOUSEOFF,CELLPAD,5, TEXTFONT,
> > 'Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif');" onmouseout="return nd();"><IMG
> > SRC="/images/help.gif" width=16 height=16></A>
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > -Tim
> >
>
> It doesn't appear that you are having any text visible so why don't
> you just use '<img
> src=\"http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-owners/images/auto-owners-
profit-sharing-table.jpg\"
> width=\"571\" height=\"231\"' as the leading argument. Also what is
> the "0" between you FGCOLOR value and the MOUSEOFF command.  Make
sure
> that src argument appears on one line and is not split between
> multiple lines.  Other than that I have no ideas what is causing you
> problems.
>

I'm not really sure why but I also had issues with BACKGROUND and
FGBACKGROUND but using IE7

no matter what nothing at all displayed - I'm also using CSSW3C and
I'm not sure if that has something to do with it or not

anyway I did as robert suggests seeing as I did not want the image to
repeat and that works OK


cheers
C

#12562 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 11:55 am
Subject: Re: call function on open and close of a popup?
siblingchris
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am trying to work out if it is possible to call a custom
function
> > as
> > > a popup is displayed and then call a different function when
the
> > popup
> > > closes.
> > >
> > > the reason I am trying to do this is that I am trying to use
the
> > popup
> > > as a modal dialogue and therefore would use an "on open"
function
> > to
> > > disable other page content and then "on close" to renable it
> > >
> > > any ideas anyone?
> > >
> > > maybe there is a plugin that does this or it would be easy to
write
> > a
> > > new plugin?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Not sure if it is the correct way, but I have attempted to write
a
> > plugin to do this task
> >
> > I am not sure I have done it 100% in the best practice way, but
it
> > works at least for calling a function before displaying the pop-up
> >
> > I put it in the files section here in the siblingchris folder
> >
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0PhlSV6nbuNA9mEmfiPHQL69L8MM_pNeu5Miz0HGw
> > KfgLZIfc4mxuoQHzeVa3j8q1K7NF-
> >
soAaGO7jWp2WMULgIgbEUTmyDHN0M4YTA/siblingchris/overlib_openclosefuncti
> > on.js
> >
> > so if you put this on the command line "hello" would be displayed
in
> > a message box before the popup displays...
> >
> > ONOPEN, alert('hello')
> >
> >
> > Now what I can;t work out is how to do a similar thing when the
popup
> > closes.
> >
> > I tried creating a function to execute after "disp" and then
> > after "cClick" and then to replace "cClick" but these all seemed
to
> > run before the popup displayed instead
> >
> > registerHook('disp', CallCloseFunction, FAFTER);
> > registerHook('cClick', CallCloseFunction, FAFTER);
> > registerHook('cClick', CallCloseFunction, FREPLACE);
> >
> >
> > So now I'm a bit stumped
> >
> > Robert - would really appreciate your advice on this
> >
> > thanks
> >
>
> Chris,
>
> You might want to take a look at this page:
>
> http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/plugin_description.html
>
> which is the original proposal for plugins.
>
> Many functions will call functions both before they execute and
after
> they execute but before they exit. You might want to look into
> "showObject()" and "hideObject()" which both call functions that are
> registered before and after they execute.  The popup obj is the
> argument to these functions.  For closing, I would concentrate on
the
> hideObject() function and the function that it calls after the popup
> has been made invisible.
>


thanks - I had in fact already seen this

I finally solved it

What was stopping me was my lack of understanding of how function
pointers work in Java script - I was taking a look at how the core
FUNCTION option works and was getting a bit confused

once I deconstructed the conditional expression in the function
opt_FUNCTION it all started to become clear!

So my final OPEN/CLOSE plugin is in the files section if anyone is
interested, I don't intend publishing it as any sort of official or
even unofficial plugin but it may help others as a reference.

It introduces two new copmmand line options to overlib call ONOPEN
and ONCLOSE that execute custom user functions as a popup opens
(actuall before it opens) and closes (after it closes)


If your custom function has no arguments you may setup the command
like this
overlib("test on open", ONOPEN, myFunction)

otherwise pass the function call as a string
overlib("test on open", ONOPEN, "myFunction(arg1, arg2)")




BTW there is some redundant code in the conditional expression of
opt_FUNCTION

it is currently written as...
o3_text=(callme ? (typeof callme=='string' ? (/.+\(.*\)/.test
(callme) ? eval(callme) : callme) : callme()) : (o3_function ?
o3_function() : 'No Function'));


the last nexted conditional expression is unnecessary so it would be
a little simpler like this
o3_text=(callme ? (typeof callme=='string' ? (/.+\(.*\)/.test
(callme) ? eval(callme) : callme) : callme()) : 'No Function');


cheers
Chris

#12563 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 2:32 pm
Subject: DRAGGABLE plugin issues
siblingchris
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I'm not sure if this is down to the plugin itself or the architecture
of overlib, but the DRAGGABLE plugin's ability to respond to mouse
moves seems very slow

this means that if you move your mouse too quickly and out of the area
which initiates the dragging the popup gets left behind until you
return the cursor to the draggable area and pick it up again

I wondered if this was just par for the course with DHTML dragging
scripts so I googled and found this tool that does not have the same
problem the overlib plugin does - no matter how hard I try I
can't "break" this one, but with the overlib DRAGGABLE plugin its quite
easy to do so
http://www.walterzorn.com/dragdrop/dragdrop_e.htm



any ideas how this could be fixed?

#12564 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 5:55 pm
Subject: Shadow and CSSW3C together?
siblingchris
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How do I get these plugins to work together?

Shadow works fine without CSSW3C, but currently with it teh sahdow seem
to be contained within the main layer rather than under it

I only have defined styles for DIVCLASS, BODYCLASS,CAPTIONCLASS, and
CLOSECLASS. Is there anything else I need?

cheers
C

#12565 From: "chocs_up" <chocs_up@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 9:36 pm
Subject: IE7 Security stopping javascript running
chocs_up
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OverLIB is a great tool and my webpages look great. The only problem is
the "nagging" IE7 Security banner wanting permission to run the
Javascript. I notice that the OverLIB website does NOT have the same
permission restriction and runs immediately on loading.  What did you
do?

Many thanks

#12566 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: DRAGGABLE plugin issues
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if this is down to the plugin itself or the architecture
> of overlib, but the DRAGGABLE plugin's ability to respond to mouse
> moves seems very slow
>
> this means that if you move your mouse too quickly and out of the area
> which initiates the dragging the popup gets left behind until you
> return the cursor to the draggable area and pick it up again
>
> I wondered if this was just par for the course with DHTML dragging
> scripts so I googled and found this tool that does not have the same
> problem the overlib plugin does - no matter how hard I try I
> can't "break" this one, but with the overlib DRAGGABLE plugin its quite
> easy to do so
> http://www.walterzorn.com/dragdrop/dragdrop_e.htm
>
>
>
> any ideas how this could be fixed?
>

I don't think it can be fixed.  overLIB is much more complicated than
the utility that Walter Zorn has and I think that has something to do
with the speed at which the commands get executed and hence the delay
in moving the popup.

#12567 From: "Tim Turner" <tturner@...>
Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 10:25 pm
Subject: RE: [oL] Re: Image background load returns false in IE6 on XP
turnertim
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It has been a couple of months since I tested and created this.  As I recall
putting just the image in the main arg did not work.  Maybe I put it as just
the path instead of html IMG SRC.  Don't recall.

The only thing I discovered was that including "overlib_hideform.js" in
addition to overlib.js causes this problem.   Removing that reference in the
page fixed the problem.  So there is some type of conflict between
overlib_hideform and loading of images in IE.

Regards,
-Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: overlib@yahoogroups.com [mailto:overlib@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Robert E Boughner
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:19 PM
To: overlib@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oL] Re: Image background load returns false in IE6 on XP

--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overlib%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tim
Turner" <tturner@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to have an image appear onMouseOver using overlib.
>
> I'm doing this by loading the image in the BACKGROUD of the overlib.
>
> This works fine on Fireworks but on IE6 just returns the text "false".
>
> Has anyone seen this?
>
> Code below
>
> <A href="javascript:void(0);" onmouseover="return
>
overlib('<BR>',BACKGROUND,'http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-owners/images/a
<http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-owners/images/a>
> uto-owners-profit-sharing-table.jpg',HEIGHT,
> 231,WIDTH,571,FGCOLOR,'#cae2fa',0,MOUSEOFF,CELLPAD,5, TEXTFONT,
> 'Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif');" onmouseout="return nd();"><IMG
> SRC="/images/help.gif" width=16 height=16></A>
>
>
> Regards,
> -Tim
>

It doesn't appear that you are having any text visible so why don't you just
use '<img
src=\"http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-owners/images/auto-owners-profit-sha
ring-table.jpg
<http://www.webcalcs.com/ssgi-auto-owners/images/auto-owners-profit-sharing-
table.jpg> \"
width=\"571\" height=\"231\"' as the leading argument. Also what is the "0"
between you FGCOLOR value and the MOUSEOFF command. Make sure that src
argument appears on one line and is not split between multiple lines. Other
than that I have no ideas what is causing you problems.





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#12568 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 10:13 am
Subject: Re: call function on open and close of a popup?
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am trying to work out if it is possible to call a custom
function
> > as
> > > a popup is displayed and then call a different function when
the
> > popup
> > > closes.
> > >
> > > the reason I am trying to do this is that I am trying to use
the
> > popup
> > > as a modal dialogue and therefore would use an "on open"
function
> > to
> > > disable other page content and then "on close" to renable it
> > >
> > > any ideas anyone?
> > >
> > > maybe there is a plugin that does this or it would be easy to
write
> > a
> > > new plugin?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Not sure if it is the correct way, but I have attempted to write
a
> > plugin to do this task
> >
> > I am not sure I have done it 100% in the best practice way, but
it
> > works at least for calling a function before displaying the pop-up
> >
> > I put it in the files section here in the siblingchris folder
> >
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0PhlSV6nbuNA9mEmfiPHQL69L8MM_pNeu5Miz0HGw
> > KfgLZIfc4mxuoQHzeVa3j8q1K7NF-
> >
soAaGO7jWp2WMULgIgbEUTmyDHN0M4YTA/siblingchris/overlib_openclosefuncti
> > on.js
> >
> > so if you put this on the command line "hello" would be displayed
in
> > a message box before the popup displays...
> >
> > ONOPEN, alert('hello')
> >
> >
> > Now what I can;t work out is how to do a similar thing when the
popup
> > closes.
> >
> > I tried creating a function to execute after "disp" and then
> > after "cClick" and then to replace "cClick" but these all seemed
to
> > run before the popup displayed instead
> >
> > registerHook('disp', CallCloseFunction, FAFTER);
> > registerHook('cClick', CallCloseFunction, FAFTER);
> > registerHook('cClick', CallCloseFunction, FREPLACE);
> >
> >
> > So now I'm a bit stumped
> >
> > Robert - would really appreciate your advice on this
> >
> > thanks
> >
>
> Chris,
>
> You might want to take a look at this page:
>
> http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/plugin_description.html
>
> which is the original proposal for plugins.
>
> Many functions will call functions both before they execute and
after
> they execute but before they exit. You might want to look into
> "showObject()" and "hideObject()" which both call functions that are
> registered before and after they execute.  The popup obj is the
> argument to these functions.  For closing, I would concentrate on
the
> hideObject() function and the function that it calls after the popup
> has been made invisible.
>


thanks Robert

I had managed to find info at bosrup.com, I think your page is pretty
much the same

as I mentioned before I have got the "onopen" type function to work
OK - however I had to register the function to run before "disp" - it
would not work with "showObject()"

As for the "onclose" approach I am having trouble with this. It
appears that "hideobject" is actually called before the popup is
shown (opened) but after "showobject". I have not managed to
understand why this is the case

Also "hideObject" is executed by the nd() function on mouseout even
when a popup is not already displayed

I am still investigating if there is anyway to do an "onclose"
function successfully  - so if you have any other bright ideas I
would love to hear them!

I will read your page too, just incase there is anything I missed

#12569 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: Shadow and CSSW3C together?
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@...> wrote:
>
> How do I get these plugins to work together?
>
> Shadow works fine without CSSW3C, but currently with it teh sahdow seem
> to be contained within the main layer rather than under it
>
> I only have defined styles for DIVCLASS, BODYCLASS,CAPTIONCLASS, and
> CLOSECLASS. Is there anything else I need?
>
> cheers
> C
>

Have you looked at
http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/dropscroll_commands.html which
explains how the SHADOW command is implemented?

#12570 From: "Jacob Christfort" <jacob@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 10:40 pm
Subject: overlib makemini documentation
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I could not find any documentation of the overlib_mini.js version. I'm
assuming that somehow the makemini.pl script us used to make a custom
smaller version with only some features, but I dont find any doc of
this mechanism.  Thx. J.

#12571 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:10 am
Subject: Re: overlib makemini documentation
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob Christfort" <jacob@...> wrote:
>
> I could not find any documentation of the overlib_mini.js version. I'm
> assuming that somehow the makemini.pl script us used to make a custom
> smaller version with only some features, but I dont find any doc of
> this mechanism.  Thx. J.
>

No, that script just strips out unnecessary spaces and tabs that were
added to make the code more readable and to remove unnecessary
comments; no code was removed at all.

#12573 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: Shadow and CSSW3C together?
siblingchris
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> >
> > How do I get these plugins to work together?
> >
> > Shadow works fine without CSSW3C, but currently with it teh
sahdow seem
> > to be contained within the main layer rather than under it
> >
> > I only have defined styles for DIVCLASS, BODYCLASS,CAPTIONCLASS,
and
> > CLOSECLASS. Is there anything else I need?
> >
> > cheers
> > C
> >
>
> Have you looked at
> http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/dropscroll_commands.html which
> explains how the SHADOW command is implemented?
>


I have and it makes sense

BUT there is no mention of CSSW3C so do I have to use the older
CSSCLASS instead?

#12574 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: Shadow and CSSW3C together?
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@...> wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > How do I get these plugins to work together?
> > >
> > > Shadow works fine without CSSW3C, but currently with it teh
> sahdow seem
> > > to be contained within the main layer rather than under it
> > >
> > > I only have defined styles for DIVCLASS, BODYCLASS,CAPTIONCLASS,
> and
> > > CLOSECLASS. Is there anything else I need?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > C
> > >
> >
> > Have you looked at
> > http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/dropscroll_commands.html which
> > explains how the SHADOW command is implemented?
> >
>
>
> I have and it makes sense
>
> BUT there is no mention of CSSW3C so do I have to use the older
> CSSCLASS instead?
>

You shouldn't need to use CSSCLASS since recent versions of overLIB
will automatically apply any custom classes applied to the body,
caption, or close text.  My feeling is that you should be able to use
CSSW3C and the SHADOW plugin too.  Check out the page
http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/cssw3c_commands.html for a
discussion of how this plugin works.  You may not be able to have a
border appear since that is done by the outer nested table in a normal
overLIB popup, but you may be able to simulate it by applying
selective border settings in the captionClass, closeClass, and
bodyClass. I don't know for sure since its been quite awhile since
I've played with it.

#12575 From: "Chris" <siblingchris@...>
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: Shadow and CSSW3C together?
siblingchris
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How do I get these plugins to work together?
> > > >
> > > > Shadow works fine without CSSW3C, but currently with it teh
> > sahdow seem
> > > > to be contained within the main layer rather than under it
> > > >
> > > > I only have defined styles for DIVCLASS,
BODYCLASS,CAPTIONCLASS,
> > and
> > > > CLOSECLASS. Is there anything else I need?
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > C
> > > >
> > >
> > > Have you looked at
> > > http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/dropscroll_commands.html
which
> > > explains how the SHADOW command is implemented?
> > >
> >
> >
> > I have and it makes sense
> >
> > BUT there is no mention of CSSW3C so do I have to use the older
> > CSSCLASS instead?
> >
>
> You shouldn't need to use CSSCLASS since recent versions of overLIB
> will automatically apply any custom classes applied to the body,
> caption, or close text.  My feeling is that you should be able to
use
> CSSW3C and the SHADOW plugin too.  Check out the page
> http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/cssw3c_commands.html for a
> discussion of how this plugin works.  You may not be able to have a
> border appear since that is done by the outer nested table in a
normal
> overLIB popup, but you may be able to simulate it by applying
> selective border settings in the captionClass, closeClass, and
> bodyClass. I don't know for sure since its been quite awhile since
> I've played with it.
>

well I played aroudn with this but in the end I decided to not use
CSSW3C

switching this off means the shadow plugin works fine

I also noticed that CSSW3C with HPOS=RIGHT managed to display the
popup a few pixels too far to the right when the mouse came too close
to the right of the brwoser window and had the result of making the
horizontal scroll bar for the page appear. As I'm working with a
fixed size popup window this wasn't really what I wanted. Without
CSSW3C the effect is that once the mouse gets too close to the right
of the window the horisontal position is fixed to be the width of the
popup away from the right hand side and therefore no scrollbars
appear.

So I'm using pretty much most of the core commans for styling now,
except I did have to use CLOSEFONTCLASS in order to stop the close
text from being underlined

thanks
C

#12576 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Shadow and CSSW3C together?
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@...> wrote:
>
> --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <siblingchris@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I get these plugins to work together?
> > > > >
> > > > > Shadow works fine without CSSW3C, but currently with it teh
> > > sahdow seem
> > > > > to be contained within the main layer rather than under it
> > > > >
> > > > > I only have defined styles for DIVCLASS,
> BODYCLASS,CAPTIONCLASS,
> > > and
> > > > > CLOSECLASS. Is there anything else I need?
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > C
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Have you looked at
> > > > http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/dropscroll_commands.html
> which
> > > > explains how the SHADOW command is implemented?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have and it makes sense
> > >
> > > BUT there is no mention of CSSW3C so do I have to use the older
> > > CSSCLASS instead?
> > >
> >
> > You shouldn't need to use CSSCLASS since recent versions of overLIB
> > will automatically apply any custom classes applied to the body,
> > caption, or close text.  My feeling is that you should be able to
> use
> > CSSW3C and the SHADOW plugin too.  Check out the page
> > http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/cssw3c_commands.html for a
> > discussion of how this plugin works.  You may not be able to have a
> > border appear since that is done by the outer nested table in a
> normal
> > overLIB popup, but you may be able to simulate it by applying
> > selective border settings in the captionClass, closeClass, and
> > bodyClass. I don't know for sure since its been quite awhile since
> > I've played with it.
> >
>
> well I played aroudn with this but in the end I decided to not use
> CSSW3C
>
> switching this off means the shadow plugin works fine
>
> I also noticed that CSSW3C with HPOS=RIGHT managed to display the
> popup a few pixels too far to the right when the mouse came too close
> to the right of the brwoser window and had the result of making the
> horizontal scroll bar for the page appear. As I'm working with a
> fixed size popup window this wasn't really what I wanted. Without
> CSSW3C the effect is that once the mouse gets too close to the right
> of the window the horisontal position is fixed to be the width of the
> popup away from the right hand side and therefore no scrollbars
> appear.
>
> So I'm using pretty much most of the core commans for styling now,
> except I did have to use CLOSEFONTCLASS in order to stop the close
> text from being underlined
>
> thanks
> C
>

In playing around with it, I noticed the same thing happening but as I
said you can do the same thing without that plugin by just using
custom classes as shown by the two examples at the bottom of the page
http://overlib.boughner.us/plugins/cssclass_commandsA.html.

#12577 From: "weaned_on_bsd" <weaned_on_bsd@...>
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:00 am
Subject: Date picker tool causes window scrolling to jump around.
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Hi,

I'm using a shareware date picker tool
(http://javascript.internet.com/time-date/date-picker.html) which
works with overlib to allow a popup calendar.  I've used this calendar
in several php applications with no problems. However using the latest
overlib I'm having problems using ANCHOR. I've a form with maybe 10
date selections. The form has about 300 input fields / radio buttons.
It's several pages long. Using ANCHOR the calendar always pops up as
expected next to the named element. However as soon as I select a date
the input field is correctly filled in and the form is automatically
scrolled so the input date field is at the top of the page.

I've looked through the manual and support posts and cannot find a
hint of why my window automatically scrolls moving my input field to
the top of the browser window. Ideas appreciated here.

thanks !

#12578 From: "Robert E Boughner" <rboughner1@...>
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: Date picker tool causes window scrolling to jump around.
reboughner0718
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--- In overlib@yahoogroups.com, "weaned_on_bsd" <weaned_on_bsd@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm using a shareware date picker tool
> (http://javascript.internet.com/time-date/date-picker.html) which
> works with overlib to allow a popup calendar.  I've used this calendar
> in several php applications with no problems. However using the latest
> overlib I'm having problems using ANCHOR. I've a form with maybe 10
> date selections. The form has about 300 input fields / radio buttons.
> It's several pages long. Using ANCHOR the calendar always pops up as
> expected next to the named element. However as soon as I select a date
> the input field is correctly filled in and the form is automatically
> scrolled so the input date field is at the top of the page.
>
> I've looked through the manual and support posts and cannot find a
> hint of why my window automatically scrolls moving my input field to
> the top of the browser window. Ideas appreciated here.
>
> thanks !
>

Just how are you calling the overLIB popup, in particular what do you
have for the href attribute value.  If it is href="#" switch to
href="javascript:;" and see if that helps out.  Also if you are
calling via an onclick event, you can just call it like this:

onclick="overlib(...); return false;" which will keep the normal
action from occurring.  Just a few thoughts here on how you might
correct your problem.  It would be best if you could provide an URL to
the problem page so that we can see exactly what is going on.

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