The following criteria, works for both quality and economy of file size on
uploaded song files.

Convert an existing, original MP3 to a temp PCM 44,100 Hz, 16-BIT, Stereo .wav
file.
compress the PCM .wav file to a MPEG LAYER-3, 12,000 Hz, 20-Bit, Stereo .wav
file.
for final upload to your server.
You could well be accurate, however I recall the 1.1 mb discussion here years
before Vista.
In the Palace hey days, I recall many PCM jukeboxes with song files well over 4
mb in use.


----- Original Message -----
From: javve03
To: palace-server@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: [palace-server] Re: converting MP3's for Palace





I'll have to check out Goldwave. May be even easier for me. As far as it
having nothing to do with vista, it has everything to do with vista.

Vista's file limit for playing wav's from palace is smaller than that of xp.
XP's limit is 1.4 mb, where vista is 1.1 mb. If I take a wave that was in palace
and make it withing the vista's limit, it will play in vista where it would not
before.

It is not a palace problem but a vista problem. Now it's the hosts's
discression if they want to edit all their wav's to be compatible with vista
os's.

--- In palace-server@yahoogroups.com, "Bri" <Brianna@...> wrote:
>
> a RIFF header'd mp3 is also called a mp3/wav or some jumble like that,
Goldwave does have the export option. The RIFF format acts as a "wrapper" for
various audio compression codecs. This Palace 'oddness' has been around since
Win 98, has nothing to do with Vista. The idea is to use a Wav (RIFF) header,
which Palace likes, then the OS will see a mp3 and plays it. The filesize limit
has been there the past 10 years, for the life of me I can't remember why..lol.
a 16-bit unsigned integer to record the file size header or a rule like that.
> The usual bitstream encoding is Pulse Code Modulation (PCM) format. I
haven't messed with alternatives in years but with today's broadband, a common
music format for Mac and Win may be in order, with better file limitation.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: denise
> To: palace-server@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [palace-server] Re: converting MP3's for Palace
>
>
>
>
>
> or simply use GoldWave (for those that dont have it, google it, its a free
download) .. setting it to convert the mp3 to a .wav .. using the setting MPEG
Layer 3 32kBits 16,000 Hz Stereo (is what i use, but there are several that
differ some, that can be used as well).. convert it and stick it in your palace
folder, upload to server, or whatever you wanna do. Dont use hyphens or other
special characters in the title and keep it under 28 characters .. the less the
better, around 20 is best. *smiles* enjoy...
>
> denise aka angelbaby
> ~~Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take but by the moments
that take our breath away!!~~
>
> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, javve03 <javve03@...> wrote:
>
> From: javve03 <javve03@...>
> Subject: [palace-server] Re: converting MP3's for Palace
> To: palace-server@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 10:03 PM
>
> I know this is an old topic but may answer some unanswered questions. To
play mp3's in palace there is a program that is called a riff editor. What it
does is takes any size file and copies it, putting a header at the beginning of
the file. Then palace will only load 1.1 MB of the file (although you download
the full song) to play. 1.1 MB is important for those of us that use vista. The
old default size for windows xp is 1.4 MB. Vista will not load those from
palace.
>
> What I would suggest, is to copy all the mp3's you want to use in palace
into a seperate folder. Then use a program to convert the bitrate down to about
48 kbit. This should lower the size to 1 MB or less. After all that is done copy
all the newly converted smaller mp3's into a folder that you will be creating
next.
>
> Download and extract the riff editor.
> http://www.studiodu st.com/riffmp3. html
>
> After extracting, rename the folder riff and copy to your C: drive. (Start,
My computer [or computer for vista], then double click C:)
> It's inside this folder where you will want to copy all the newly finished
mp3 files.
>
> Now to convert them, you will need to click on the start menu and select run
(for vista users start typing run in the search box, then click on run up top
when it shows up).
>
> In the run box type cmd then enter
> You will now be looking at a black box with text in it.
> Type "cd \" and enter (without the quotes)
> Type "cd riff" and enter (without the quotes)
>
> right click the mouse in the box and paste the following... .
>
> riffmp3 -l 1134000 -v -d riffed (filename) [repalace (filename) with the mp3
name]
> example:
> riffmp3 -l 1134000 -v -d riffed SecretCrowds. mp3 (capitalization must
match)
>
> This will place the finished file (the one you want to use) in a folder
named riffed, and if the file size is larger than 1.1 MB it will limit the
header to only load 1.1 MB of song (file may be larger) although again I
recommend when converting the mp3 to a lower bitrate that you make sure it's
less than 1.1 MB.
>
> After all music is converted and in the riffed folder, you can keep the
other files as backup or delete them (keeping the origionals of course). You can
also convert .wav files to mp3 and then put a header on them as well.
>
> I realize this is a process, but for those of you that want to do it, well
there are the instructions and link for the program. It says trial but so far
it's fully working and tested.
>
> --- In palace-server@ yahoogroups. com, "Sue" <zinafl@> wrote:
> >
> > Can someone give me directions to converting an MP3 music file so that
> > it can be played in palace? I have GoldWave.
> > Also need to know the largest size that a wav can be to play in palace
> >
> > thanks,
> > Zina
> >
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