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17839
Anne, Forgive me but I don't know what "cit" is. How would I define "hominid"? For me, the term hominid demands bipedal locomotion, pure and simple. But for...
jim
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Oct 4, 2009
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17840
I believe your postulation that oriopith was bipedal is based on a (not universally accepted)viewpoint. And naturally, any fossil with simian foot morphology ...
jim
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Oct 4, 2009
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17841
Oreopithecus possessed a number of hominin-like locomotive postcranial characteristics that are highly indicative of obligatory bipedalism such as: vertebral...
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Oct 4, 2009
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17842
Many monkeys have similar morphologies and they can walk comfortably in a bipedal fashion. But they are by no stretch "obligatory bipeds" due to morphological...
jim
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17843
No monkey has lumbar lordosis. Although there have been some macaques-- experimentally trained for bipedalism-- that have developed it in their spines. No...
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Oct 4, 2009
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17844
Where in the evolutionary chain do the various species of hominoids come into the chain of evolution? The reason I ask is this, most of the ones we have seen...
Hewie
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17846
No monkey develops the bipedal trait of lumbar lordosis unless they are trained to walk continuously in a bipedal mode. And hominid actually refers to great ...
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Oct 5, 2009
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17847
Jim: "Cit: should read "it". Sometimes my keyboard does funny things, not related to any spelling bloopers I make. As for the rest of it, you have certainly...
Anne Gilbert
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Oct 5, 2009
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17848
Surely you are kidding! "Hominid" clearly requires bipedal gait; and NOT 'obligatory' bipedality. Hominids DO NOT include apes. No elitism intended. But...
jim
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17849
Anne, No problem. I had no idea that was a typo; thought it was, like, initials of something or other. As for my questioning of hominid I.D. for Ardi, I don't...
jim
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Oct 5, 2009
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"Hominoid" is a very general term that basically INCLUDES all APES AND HUMANS, past or present. It is not really a very specific group per se. ~jim...
jim
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Oct 5, 2009
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17851
No kidding. According to the modern taxonomy of the primates the family Hominidae covers humans _and_ the great apes. The family is further divided into the...
Torfinn Ørmen
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Oct 5, 2009
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17852
Hello Torfinn, OMG- You've opened up the howling PANDORA BOX caused by the 'hominin controversy'. (:)) Many (if not most) scientists insist that the use of...
jim
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Oct 5, 2009
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17853
In the old nomenclature, the term hominids was used to describe humans and human related hominoids while the term pongids was used to describe great apes:...
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Oct 5, 2009
7:07 pm
17854
OK. Here we go: BIPEDALISM is a DEFINING FEATURE of the word "Hominid". Period. that is the rock I will continue to stand on. I know these arguments. I will...
jim
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Oct 5, 2009
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17855
... (:)) ... Um, no, they don't insist on this. The majority of scientists who have thought about it at all actually agree with plomping the great apes inside ...
Torfinn Ørmen
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Oct 5, 2009
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17856
Hominoid: post-split from Old World Monkeys Hylobatid: Asian lesser apes Pongid: Asian great apes Hominid: African great apes/hominins (includes Europe/Levant)...
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Oct 5, 2009
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17857
... I am sorry, but it is not. ... Thy rock is sand. ... Cheers Torfinn...
Torfinn Ørmen
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Oct 5, 2009
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17858
Jim: Yes, the opposable feet are kind of apish-looking, to me, at least. OTOH, all I can say is, that according to White et al, Ar. ramidus walked, after a...
Anne Gilbert
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Oct 5, 2009
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17859
Anne, Yes, they feel Ar. ramidus WAS bipedal and I do hope their conclusions to be correct. Perhaps future dicoveries will lend better evidence. I don't think...
jim
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Oct 6, 2009
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17860
Thanks Jim, We need to know really a lot more than that, we need some defination of the possible differences between the creatures. OK hominid means basically...
Hewie
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Oct 8, 2009
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17861
... It is often used that way informally, but be aware that taxonomically it means something else. ... That's simple. A "hominoid" is an "ape" (including...
Torfinn Ørmen
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Oct 8, 2009
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17862
... Taking another look... Is it almas you are talking about? Don't mix Asian traditions with American ones. Even if there are elements in common, there are...
Torfinn Ørmen
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Oct 8, 2009
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17863
Torfinn: A woman by the name of Myra Shackley claims that these "almas" are remnant Neandertals. Yikes! Anne G ... Taking another look... Is it almas you are...
Anne Gilbert
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Oct 8, 2009
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17864
One of the grottiest, most severely crushed parts of the Ardipithecus ARA-VP-6/500 skeleton is the pelvis. The left os coxa is nearly complete but badly...
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Oct 9, 2009
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17865
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2009 Sep 22;106(38):16028-33. Epub 2009 Sep 21. [Click here to read] ...
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Oct 10, 2009
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17866
1: Folia Primatol (Basel). 2008;79(4):215-50. Epub 2008 Feb 15. [Click here to read] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3030&itool=Abst\...
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Oct 22, 2009
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17867
Oldest Evidence of Toolmaking Hominins in a Grassland-Dominated Ecosystem By PLoS ONE • on October 21, 2009 Background Major biological and cultural...
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Oct 22, 2009
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17868
Am J Phys Anthropol. 2009 Nov 3;140(4):630-642. [Epub ahead of print] Shallow-water habitats as sources of fallback foods for hominins. Wrangham R ...
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Nov 9, 2009
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17869
Hiya, Jim, Anne ole buddy: I can't help but think about what has happened in paleoanthropology since I first became interested in human evolution. My first...
Jack Kilmon
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