Anne, Forgive me but I don't know what "cit" is. How would I define "hominid"? For me, the term hominid demands bipedal locomotion, pure and simple. But for...
I believe your postulation that oriopith was bipedal is based on a (not universally accepted)viewpoint. And naturally, any fossil with simian foot morphology ...
Oreopithecus possessed a number of hominin-like locomotive postcranial characteristics that are highly indicative of obligatory bipedalism such as: vertebral...
Many monkeys have similar morphologies and they can walk comfortably in a bipedal fashion. But they are by no stretch "obligatory bipeds" due to morphological...
No monkey has lumbar lordosis. Although there have been some macaques-- experimentally trained for bipedalism-- that have developed it in their spines. No...
Where in the evolutionary chain do the various species of hominoids come into the chain of evolution? The reason I ask is this, most of the ones we have seen...
No monkey develops the bipedal trait of lumbar lordosis unless they are trained to walk continuously in a bipedal mode. And hominid actually refers to great ...
Jim: "Cit: should read "it". Sometimes my keyboard does funny things, not related to any spelling bloopers I make. As for the rest of it, you have certainly...
Surely you are kidding! "Hominid" clearly requires bipedal gait; and NOT 'obligatory' bipedality. Hominids DO NOT include apes. No elitism intended. But...
Anne, No problem. I had no idea that was a typo; thought it was, like, initials of something or other. As for my questioning of hominid I.D. for Ardi, I don't...
No kidding. According to the modern taxonomy of the primates the family Hominidae covers humans _and_ the great apes. The family is further divided into the...
Hello Torfinn, OMG- You've opened up the howling PANDORA BOX caused by the 'hominin controversy'. (:)) Many (if not most) scientists insist that the use of...
In the old nomenclature, the term hominids was used to describe humans and human related hominoids while the term pongids was used to describe great apes:...
OK. Here we go: BIPEDALISM is a DEFINING FEATURE of the word "Hominid". Period. that is the rock I will continue to stand on. I know these arguments. I will...
... (:)) ... Um, no, they don't insist on this. The majority of scientists who have thought about it at all actually agree with plomping the great apes inside ...
Hominoid: post-split from Old World Monkeys Hylobatid: Asian lesser apes Pongid: Asian great apes Hominid: African great apes/hominins (includes Europe/Levant)...
Jim: Yes, the opposable feet are kind of apish-looking, to me, at least. OTOH, all I can say is, that according to White et al, Ar. ramidus walked, after a...
Anne, Yes, they feel Ar. ramidus WAS bipedal and I do hope their conclusions to be correct. Perhaps future dicoveries will lend better evidence. I don't think...
Thanks Jim, We need to know really a lot more than that, we need some defination of the possible differences between the creatures. OK hominid means basically...
... It is often used that way informally, but be aware that taxonomically it means something else. ... That's simple. A "hominoid" is an "ape" (including...
... Taking another look... Is it almas you are talking about? Don't mix Asian traditions with American ones. Even if there are elements in common, there are...
Torfinn: A woman by the name of Myra Shackley claims that these "almas" are remnant Neandertals. Yikes! Anne G ... Taking another look... Is it almas you are...
One of the grottiest, most severely crushed parts of the Ardipithecus ARA-VP-6/500 skeleton is the pelvis. The left os coxa is nearly complete but badly...
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Oldest Evidence of Toolmaking Hominins in a Grassland-Dominated Ecosystem By PLoS ONE • on October 21, 2009 Background Major biological and cultural...
Hiya, Jim, Anne ole buddy: I can't help but think about what has happened in paleoanthropology since I first became interested in human evolution. My first...
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