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#9028 From: ConsoleG4@...
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: Palm root cuttings?
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What a great site. I bookmarked it and will spend a lot of time reading through it.

As to Black Sphinx, it sounds like a clone produced vegetatively - but you never know.

I'll be contacting you off the list about exchanging links - I have a site that promotes plant groups.

Bob
SW Florida USA

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Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:01:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [palmsociety] Palm root cuttings?

 

why don't you grow them from seed?
www.nzpalmandcycad.com
Michael McCorquindale
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PACSONZ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 4:07 AM
Subject: [palmsociety] Palm root cuttings?

 

New to palm trees and needing to learn if anyone knows of a way to take a root cutting from a mature date palm.

We are trying to save what is referred to as a Black Sphinx Date Palm here in Phoenix, Arizona. It is a delicious date that has been kind of ignored over the years and now there is some interest is saving it. The problem is all of the trees we can find are very old and long ago stopped producing pups/offshoots.

So we are looking for information about possibly taking a root cutting and growing new ones this way or finding a young tree/trees that are able to produce offshoots. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for you time.
Chris


#9029 From: "Nestlebrae.Exotics" <Nestlebrae.Exotics@...>
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:47 pm
Subject: Re: Palm root cuttings?
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I suspect that unless you had controlled pollination of the Black Sphinx flowers, then you are going to get cross-pollination from other date cultivars in the neighbourhood of your female palm. In the Arizona climate vegetative reproduction would have been normal. But Black Sphinx is a wonderful date to eat, and it's really worth saving. And I've seedlings from it in my collection here, but our climate means I'm unlikely to find out how good seedling fruit from this cultivar would be.
[small world, Bob and Mike, eh?!]
 
John
 
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Parkhurst, RD1 Helensville,
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website: http://NestlebraeExotics.co.nz/
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [palmsociety] Palm root cuttings?

 

As to Black Sphinx, it sounds like a clone produced vegetatively - but you never know.
Bob
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From: michaelmac@clear.net.nz
why don't you grow them from seed?
www.nzpalmandcycad.com
Michael McCorquindale
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PACSONZ
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#9030 From: dutch vandervort <dutchvan@...>
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: Palm root cuttings?
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Phoenix dactylifera do not come true from seed.  Traditionally they produce numerous suckers which are true to the "mother."  I do not know the genesis of the suckers.  There must be some sort of axial meristem.  If you do not have the mature suckers, maybe you can find the axiliary bud and produce a plant from that material.  Good luck!

I have not heard of black sphinx but I am all in favor of preserving rare genetic stock.

Dutch Vandervort
San Miguel de Allende, Mexico!
On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:01 PM, michaelmac@... wrote:

 

why don't you grow them from seed?
www.nzpalmandcycad.com
Michael McCorquindale
President & Webmaster
PACSONZ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 4:07 AM
Subject: [palmsociety] Palm root cuttings?

 

New to palm trees and needing to learn if anyone knows of a way to take a root cutting from a mature date palm.

We are trying to save what is referred to as a Black Sphinx Date Palm here in Phoenix, Arizona. It is a delicious date that has been kind of ignored over the years and now there is some interest is saving it. The problem is all of the trees we can find are very old and long ago stopped producing pups/offshoots.

So we are looking for information about possibly taking a root cutting and growing new ones this way or finding a young tree/trees that are able to produce offshoots. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for you time.
Chris




#9031 From: dutch vandervort <dutchvan@...>
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: Palm root cuttings?
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why off the list?  others might like the information as well.  God knows this list is not over-used!

Dutch
On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:20 PM, ConsoleG4@... wrote:

 

What a great site. I bookmarked it and will spend a lot of time reading through it.

As to Black Sphinx, it sounds like a clone produced vegetatively - but you never know.

I'll be contacting you off the list about exchanging links - I have a site that promotes plant groups.

Bob
SW Florida USA

----- Original Message -----
From: michaelmac@clear.net.nz
To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:01:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [palmsociety] Palm root cuttings?

 

why don't you grow them from seed?
www.nzpalmandcycad.com
Michael McCorquindale
President & Webmaster
PACSONZ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 4:07 AM
Subject: [palmsociety] Palm root cuttings?

 

New to palm trees and needing to learn if anyone knows of a way to take a root cutting from a mature date palm.

We are trying to save what is referred to as a Black Sphinx Date Palm here in Phoenix, Arizona. It is a delicious date that has been kind of ignored over the years and now there is some interest is saving it. The problem is all of the trees we can find are very old and long ago stopped producing pups/offshoots.

So we are looking for information about possibly taking a root cutting and growing new ones this way or finding a young tree/trees that are able to produce offshoots. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for you time.
Chris





#9032 From: ConsoleG4@...
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: Palm root cuttings?
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Hi Dutch,

I suppose I made the contact off the list because I own/co-own about 10 groups like this one and don't like it when someone solicits members to join a competing group. Competing might be too strong a word but I suspect readers will know what I intend. Since I don't own a palm group here's the information. LOL

Website dedicated to rare edibles and unusual plants:
http://www.quisqualis.com
Had this educational site for years and I want to expand to promote more groups like the Palm Society. See the links to "Organizations RFCI & Others" and "Australia& New Zealand Connections".

Following this link:
http://www.quisqualis.com/tv01content.html
will take you to a web adaptation of Edible Palms and Their Uses by Jody Haynes and John McLaughlin (Fact Sheet MDCE-00-50 of the UF/Miami-Dade County Extension office).

I do a bit of grafting and opened a site for information exchange and to sell some grafting DVDs I am working on (too bad it doesn't work on palms!) and opened:
http://www.HowToGraft.com

I would be pleased to exchange links with or promote various plant related organizations, usually the organization gets a full page although I am not above giving another page for sales and events. No cost but I like to exchange links if possible.

I also have my own, small, web hosting company and would like to assist some of the many clubs and organizations without sites (or without anyone to maintain then) the chance to have a site for their members. Not free, but I only need to cover my costs as I want to see more exposure for unique plants and those who love them. (My servers are green powered (wind) which I thought fit nicely).

Why my desire to promote plants and their organizations? Because I see this as a way to share information and maybe help save some of the beautiful, or odd, species that are endangered.

Bob Cannon
SW Florida USA

----- Original Message -----

 

why off the list?  others might like the information as well.  God knows this list is not over-used!


Dutch
On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:20 PM, ConsoleG4@... wrote:

 

What a great site. I bookmarked it and will spend a lot of time reading through it.

As to Black Sphinx, it sounds like a clone produced vegetatively - but you never know.

I'll be contacting you off the list about exchanging links - I have a site that promotes plant groups.

Bob
SW Florida USA
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#9033 From: "Jody Haynes" <jody@...>
Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:17 am
Subject: Re: Palm root cuttings?
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For those interested, an easier-to-read PDF version of my edible palms fact sheet can be found here: http://www.plantapalm.com/Vpe/ethnobotany/EdiblePalms.PDF
 
Jody
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [palmsociety] Palm root cuttings?

Hi Dutch,

I suppose I made the contact off the list because I own/co-own about 10 groups like this one and don't like it when someone solicits members to join a competing group. Competing might be too strong a word but I suspect readers will know what I intend. Since I don't own a palm group here's the information. LOL

Website dedicated to rare edibles and unusual plants:
http://www.quisqualis.com
Had this educational site for years and I want to expand to promote more groups like the Palm Society. See the links to "Organizations RFCI & Others" and "Australia& New Zealand Connections".

Following this link:
http://www.quisqualis.com/tv01content.html
will take you to a web adaptation of Edible Palms and Their Uses by Jody Haynes and John McLaughlin (Fact Sheet MDCE-00-50 of the UF/Miami-Dade County Extension office).

I do a bit of grafting and opened a site for information exchange and to sell some grafting DVDs I am working on (too bad it doesn't work on palms!) and opened:
http://www.HowToGraft.com

I would be pleased to exchange links with or promote various plant related organizations, usually the organization gets a full page although I am not above giving another page for sales and events. No cost but I like to exchange links if possible.

I also have my own, small, web hosting company and would like to assist some of the many clubs and organizations without sites (or without anyone to maintain then) the chance to have a site for their members. Not free, but I only need to cover my costs as I want to see more exposure for unique plants and those who love them. (My servers are green powered (wind) which I thought fit nicely).

Why my desire to promote plants and their organizations? Because I see this as a way to share information and maybe help save some of the beautiful, or odd, species that are endangered.

Bob Cannon
SW Florida USA

----- Original Message -----

 

why off the list?  others might like the information as well.  God knows this list is not over-used!


Dutch
On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:20 PM, ConsoleG4@... wrote:

 

What a great site. I bookmarked it and will spend a lot of time reading through it.

As to Black Sphinx, it sounds like a clone produced vegetatively - but you never know.

I'll be contacting you off the list about exchanging links - I have a site that promotes plant groups.

Bob
SW Florida USA
.


#9034 From: "widjenseed" <widjenseed@...>
Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:30 pm
Subject: RE: Palm Butia Capitata and Hard Rain
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Dear Palm Experts,

I am new for Butia.
I live in Bandung, Indonesia at the elevation of 800 meter above sea level. My
place has very long hours of hard rain per day 6-12 hours a day September to
April. I bought Palm Butia Capitata overall height 3-3.5 feet. I would like to
plant it in ground. Would the rain level kill my Butia?

Thanks in advance. Hendro

#9035 From: ConsoleG4@...
Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Palm root cuttings?
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Hi Jody,

When I originally got the article from the Extension office it was as a hard copy. Now that it is available as a PDF I added the link you provided below. I also made a couple of changes to improve reading on my own page. It is one of the better articles on the topic, although I wish there were more detailed information as to each palm's uses - but then it would have became a book.

When I was typing it in I also made a note in my files that I should go back and add links to photographs of the palms. I posted the page in 2004 and have not had the time to do so! LOL

After following your link to the PDF I followed the main link to the Palm and Cycad Societies of Florida page and spent a good two hours in the Chamaedorea pages. I would like to add several to my collection as I find these small palms fascinating and beautiful. (Right now I have 3 species, C. metallica, C. elegans and an unnamed species from Dr. Bob McNaughten in Coral Gables. I have both male and female metallica but have not been able to get seeds).

Bob
SW Florida USA
The link to the article:
http://www.quisqualis.com/tv01ediblepalms.html

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For those interested, an easier-to-read PDF version of my edible palms fact sheet can be found here: http://www.plantapalm.com/Vpe/ethnobotany/EdiblePalms.PDF
 
Jody
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#9036 From: "Leland Lai - ABM" <lelandlai@...>
Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:03 pm
Subject: RE: RE: Palm Butia Capitata and Hard Rain
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If you plant on a hillside or where there is a downward slope, dig extra large hole and fill in with gravel or broken pottery with a french drain on the downhill side so that when it rains, the water will not collect in the planting hole but drain off to the lower slope.  Hence, the Butia roots  has to grow through the draining mix before hitting the more dense clay or strata below the hole.
Leland
 


From: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:palmsociety@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of widjenseed
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:31 AM
To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [palmsociety] RE: Palm Butia Capitata and Hard Rain

 

Dear Palm Experts,

I am new for Butia.
I live in Bandung, Indonesia at the elevation of 800 meter above sea level. My place has very long hours of hard rain per day 6-12 hours a day September to April. I bought Palm Butia Capitata overall height 3-3.5 feet. I would like to plant it in ground. Would the rain level kill my Butia?

Thanks in advance. Hendro


#9037 From: "goldstarinvestors" <goldstarinvestors@...>
Date: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: Palm root cuttings?
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Thank to every one that has replied to my question. There is a lot of
information to sort through and it is going to take us a little while to get
this done.

A couple of answers, it is not reliable to get this from seed because of the
amount of other palms in the Phoenix area. There are not a lot of these trees
maybe 100 or so. They had fallen out of favor because while the fruit is
extremely good tasting and eating, it is very delicate and the only way to keep
it is by freezing. The sugars are very high and it never gets hard just kind of
chewy. This lead to it falling out of favor and now a few of us would like to
save this variety.

It is a tall, most are almost 100 feet now, and attractive palm with good fruit
production but there is a lot of competition with the birds.

So thanks for the help and I will let you know what we figure out.
Chris


--- In palmsociety@yahoogroups.com, "goldstarinvestors" <goldstarinvestors@...>
wrote:
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> New to palm trees and needing to learn if anyone knows of a way to take a root
cutting from a mature date palm.
>
> We are trying to save what is referred to as a Black Sphinx Date Palm here in
Phoenix, Arizona. It is a delicious date that has been kind of ignored over the
years and now there is some interest is saving it. The problem is all of the
trees we can find are very old and long ago stopped producing pups/offshoots.
>
> So we are looking for information about possibly taking a root cutting and
growing new ones this way or finding a young tree/trees that are able to produce
offshoots. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks for you time.
> Chris
>

#9038 From: "Jerold Crawford" <jeroldc@...>
Date: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:34 am
Subject: sabal Palmetto lisa in Tampa
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There was a nice planting of Sabal palmetto var. lisa growing near a parking lot here in that tat I visited once/  I have lost the location of it.  Does anyone remember where it is .  Would appreciate it as I would like to take some pictures.

 

 

Jerold Crawford

Tampa, Florida  USA

USDA Zone 9B or 10A depending on the map

lipstickpalm

What is eating my "lipstick palm"?

 

 


#9039 From: Andrew Hendrickson <ahendric@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: sabal Palmetto lisa in Tampa
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Jerold,

I just saw a picture of a clump at the St. Pete Palm Park.  Maybe Phil can confirm.  Or I will be down there no later than mid November for a swim meet, and can verify then.

Andy
Tampa, Fl

Jerold Crawford wrote:
 

There was a nice planting of Sabal palmetto var. lisa growing near a parking lot here in that tat I visited once/  I have lost the location of it.  Does anyone remember where it is .  Would appreciate it as I would like to take some pictures.

 

 

Jerold Crawford

Tampa, Florida  USA

USDA Zone 9B or 10A depending on the map

lipstickpalm

What is eating my "lipstick palm"?

 

 



#9040 From: philstag <philstag@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: sabal Palmetto lisa in Tampa
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Yes, there are about 8 Sabal 'Lisa' at the Kopsick Palm Arboretum.  They are planted throughout the arboretum.  They were purchased from a grower in Imokalee. 
 
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:06:21 -0400 Andrew Hendrickson <ahendric@...> writes:
Jerold,

I just saw a picture of a clump at the St. Pete Palm Park.  Maybe Phil can confirm.  Or I will be down there no later than mid November for a swim meet, and can verify then.

Andy
Tampa, Fl

Jerold Crawford wrote:
 

There was a nice planting of Sabal palmetto var. lisa growing near a parking lot here in that tat I visited once/  I have lost the location of it.  Does anyone remember where it is .  Would appreciate it as I would like to take some pictures.

 

 

Jerold Crawford

Tampa, Florida  USA

USDA Zone 9B or 10A depending on the map

lipstickpalm

What is eating my "lipstick palm"?

 

 


 


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#9041 From: JERE L GRIFFIN JR <natureboy0620@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:38 pm
Subject: RE: sabal Palmetto lisa in Tampa
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Ever see this? A double-headed sabal plam! Cool Huh?
 

To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:06:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [palmsociety] sabal Palmetto lisa in Tampa

Jerold,

I just saw a picture of a clump at the St. Pete Palm Park.  Maybe Phil can confirm.  Or I will be down there no later than mid November for a swim meet, and can verify then.

Andy
Tampa, Fl

Jerold Crawford wrote:
 

There was a nice planting of Sabal palmetto var. lisa growing near a parking lot here in that tat I visited once/  I have lost the location of it.  Does anyone remember where it is .  Would appreciate it as I would like to take some pictures.

 

 

Jerold Crawford

Tampa, Florida  USA

USDA Zone 9B or 10A depending on the map

lipstickpalm

What is eating my "lipstick palm"?

 

 




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#9042 From: David Clulow <david.clulow@...>
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:21 am
Subject: Wallichia disticha
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Possibly my favourite fan palm is Wallichia disticha.  With its beautiful leaves arranged in a perfect fan similar to Ravenala madagascariensis  it makes a most impressive feature.  When viewed this from the side it looks to be fastigiate, but this is only because of the extraordinary beautiful arrangement of its leaves.


4 of 4 Photo(s)


#9043 From: David Clulow <david.clulow@...>
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:26 am
Subject: Re: Wallichia disticha
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One photo did not go, it is the one showing the plant in side view; here it is:

2009/10/14 David Clulow <david.clulow@...>

Possibly my favourite fan palm is Wallichia disticha.  With its beautiful leaves arranged in a perfect fan similar to Ravenala madagascariensis  it makes a most impressive feature.  When viewed this from the side it looks to be fastigiate, but this is only because of the extraordinary beautiful arrangement of its leaves.



1 of 1 Photo(s)

#9044 From: "natureboy0620" <natureboy0620@...>
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:34 am
Subject: Re: Wallichia disticha
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Is that true that it dies after it blooms?

   I have air plants and lillies that do that but they also produce off shutes
before they are gone, does the palm do this?

--- In palmsociety@yahoogroups.com, David Clulow <david.clulow@...> wrote:
>
> One photo did not go, it is the one showing the plant in side view; here it
> is:
>
> 2009/10/14 David Clulow <david.clulow@...>
>
> > Possibly my favourite fan palm is *Wallichia disticha. ** *With its
> > beautiful leaves arranged in a perfect fan similar to *Ravenala
> > madagascariensis** * it makes a most impressive feature.  When viewed this
> > from the side it looks to be fastigiate, but this is only because of the
> > extraordinary beautiful arrangement of its leaves.
> >
>

#9045 From: Dave Witt <talapalms@...>
Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wallichia disticha
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Think along lines of how Arenga or Caryota behave. Because W.disticha is a solitary species yes it dies but the process takes a few yrs from what I've observed here. Some Wallichia e.g. oblongifolia (formerly densiflora) are clustering so while the flowering stem will eventually meet its demise the plant itself lives on thru the other stems (ala Arenga engleri, Caryota mitis).
--
- dave


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:34 AM, natureboy0620 <natureboy0620@...> wrote:
 

Is that true that it dies after it blooms?

I have air plants and lillies that do that but they also produce off shutes before they are gone, does the palm do this?

--- In palmsociety@yahoogroups.com, David Clulow <david.clulow@...> wrote:
>
> One photo did not go, it is the one showing the plant in side view; here it
> is:
>
> 2009/10/14 David Clulow <david.clulow@...>
>
> > Possibly my favourite fan palm is *Wallichia disticha. ** *With its
> > beautiful leaves arranged in a perfect fan similar to *Ravenala
> > madagascariensis** * it makes a most impressive feature. When viewed this
> > from the side it looks to be fastigiate, but this is only because of the
> > extraordinary beautiful arrangement of its leaves.
> >
>


#9046 From: David Clulow <david.clulow@...>
Date: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:06 pm
Subject: Dypsis madagascariensis
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In September 2001 I imported one hundred Dypsis madagascariensis  seeds from Rare Palm Seeds in Germany.  They mostly germinated and I had far too many for my own use so I gave many away to friends.

 

This week I was invited to a birthday party in Manriqué which is only around an hour and a quarter away from my finca, but is around 3,000 feet higher elevation and gets rain fairy evenly and profusely all year round.  As against my finca which has virtually no rain from January to March and we do not have facilities for irrigation.  I was staggered at the growth of my donated palm under these conditions.  It is about twice as tall as my ones - you can see from the photos.  And it shows evidence of fruiting last year as the seeds on this plant are not ready under these cooler conditions whereas my ones have finished fruiting.

 

This is a wonderful palm, surviving almost anywhere.  I have sown quite a number of seeds this year as I plan to plant them around some of my boundaries.  Most of the palms I have attempted to cultivate there have perished in the dry season.  Only the Bismarkias, Corypha elata and Chamaedora siefritzii surviving.  But not one Dypsis madagarascariensis perished in the drought.

 

I seem to remember that someone stated that Dypsis madagascariensis is not the correct name;  does anyone know what it really should be called?

The first photo is the one I showed you before in my finca and the other two at my friend Gabriela's finca in Manriqué.


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#9047 From: dutch vandervort <dutchvan@...>
Date: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: Dypsis madagascariensis [3 Attachments]
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David!

Dutch Vandervort here in central Mexico.

I must have been asleep when reading your earlier posts -- I cannot remember your location, and when I try to find Manrique, all that comes up is stuff about an artist, photographer, architect!

Please remind me where you and Manrique are.

Dutch


On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:06 AM, David Clulow wrote:

 

In September 2001 I imported one hundred Dypsis madagascariensis  seeds from Rare Palm Seeds in Germany.  They mostly germinated and I had far too many for my own use so I gave many away to friends.

 

This week I was invited to a birthday party in Manriqué which is only around an hour and a quarter away from my finca, but is around 3,000 feet higher elevation and gets rain fairy evenly and profusely all year round.  As against my finca which has virtually no rain from January to March and we do not have facilities for irrigation.  I was staggered at the growth of my donated palm under these conditions.  It is about twice as tall as my ones - you can see from the photos.  And it shows evidence of fruiting last year as the seeds on this plant are not ready under these cooler conditions whereas my ones have finished fruiting.

 

This is a wonderful palm, surviving almost anywhere.  I have sown quite a number of seeds this year as I plan to plant them around some of my boundaries.  Most of the palms I have attempted to cultivate there have perished in the dry season.  Only the Bismarkias, Corypha elata and Chamaedora siefritzii surviving.  But not one Dypsis madagarascariensis perished in the drought.

 

I seem to remember that someone stated that Dypsis madagascariensis is not the correct name;  does anyone know what it really should be called?

The first photo is the one I showed you before in my finca and the other two at my friend Gabriela's finca in Manriqué.




#9048 From: David Clulow <david.clulow@...>
Date: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: Dypsis madagascariensis
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Hi Dutch

I am in Tinaco, Cojedes in central Venezuela about 10 miles west or south west of San Carlos which is the capital of the state.  Manriqué is about 10 miles north of San Carlos.

Here are two photos I sent earlier

2009/10/17 dutch vandervort <dutchvan@...>
 

David!


Dutch Vandervort here in central Mexico.

I must have been asleep when reading your earlier posts -- I cannot remember your location, and when I try to find Manrique, all that comes up is stuff about an artist, photographer, architect!

Please remind me where you and Manrique are.

Dutch


On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:06 AM, David Clulow wrote:

 

In September 2001 I imported one hundred Dypsis madagascariensis  seeds from Rare Palm Seeds in Germany.  They mostly germinated and I had far too many for my own use so I gave many away to friends.

 

This week I was invited to a birthday party in Manriqué which is only around an hour and a quarter away from my finca, but is around 3,000 feet higher elevation and gets rain fairy evenly and profusely all year round.  As against my finca which has virtually no rain from January to March and we do not have facilities for irrigation.  I was staggered at the growth of my donated palm under these conditions.  It is about twice as tall as my ones - you can see from the photos.  And it shows evidence of fruiting last year as the seeds on this plant are not ready under these cooler conditions whereas my ones have finished fruiting.

 

This is a wonderful palm, surviving almost anywhere.  I have sown quite a number of seeds this year as I plan to plant them around some of my boundaries.  Most of the palms I have attempted to cultivate there have perished in the dry season.  Only the Bismarkias, Corypha elata and Chamaedora siefritzii surviving.  But not one Dypsis madagarascariensis perished in the drought.

 

I seem to remember that someone stated that Dypsis madagascariensis is not the correct name;  does anyone know what it really should be called?

The first photo is the one I showed you before in my finca and the other two at my friend Gabriela's finca in Manriqué.





2 of 2 Photo(s)

#9049 From: "dirk.benoit" <dirk.benoit@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 10:09 am
Subject: Tenerife
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I'm new to the group.
We recently bought a house in tenerife and I would like to plant a few palms. I
tried to find Cocos nucifera but none of the nurseries I visited had them. Could
anyone bring me in contact with members who live in tenerife and who could help
me with some info on usable palm and where to find them. The house is at the sea
front with frequent salt-spray.I run a nursery in Belgium (zone 8a) of
ornamental broadleaved trees but when I came to the Canaries, my botanical
knowledge was suddely brought back to basic. So, there is much to learn. This is
exciting!

#9050 From: "e" <ellay@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 2:32 pm
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            You will probably find some coconut trees, but even if you don’t, as a nurseryman you should be able to start your own. Just get a few coconuts and give them 6 months or so to germinate.

 

LARRY

 


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I'm new to the group.
We recently bought a house in tenerife and I would like to plant a few palms. I tried to find Cocos nucifera but none of the nurseries I visited had them. Could anyone bring me in contact with members who live in tenerife and who could help me with some info on usable palm and where to find them. The house is at the sea front with frequent salt-spray.I run a nursery in Belgium (zone 8a) of ornamental broadleaved trees but when I came to the Canaries, my botanical knowledge was suddely brought back to basic. So, there is much to learn. This is exciting!


#9051 From: Brian Bruning <BBruning@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 2:42 pm
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Check with Carlo Morici who is an avid member of the IPS and who lives in Sta. Cruz de Tenerife.  He will certainly be able to help you.

 

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:32:56 -0500
Subject: RE: [palmsociety] Tenerife

 

            You will probably find some coconut trees, but even if you don’t, as a nurseryman you should be able to start your own. Just get a few coconuts and give them 6 months or so to germinate.

 

LARRY

 


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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:10 AM
To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [palmsociety] Tenerife

 

 

I'm new to the group.
We recently bought a house in tenerife and I would like to plant a few palms. I tried to find Cocos nucifera but none of the nurseries I visited had them. Could anyone bring me in contact with members who live in tenerife and who could help me with some info on usable palm and where to find them. The house is at the sea front with frequent salt-spray.I run a nursery in Belgium (zone 8a) of ornamental broadleaved trees but when I came to the Canaries, my botanical knowledge was suddely brought back to basic. So, there is much to learn. This is exciting!




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#9052 From: "dirk.benoit" <dirk.benoit@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: Tenerife
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I've read some articles from Carlo Morici but I don't have his email address.
Can anyone help me.
Are there any other palms that I could grow so close to the sea in a the dry
climate of eastern Tenerife?



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>             You will probably find some coconut trees, but even if you don't,
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and give them 6 months or so to germinate.
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> LARRY
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Behalf Of dirk.benoit
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:10 AM
> To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [palmsociety] Tenerife
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>
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> I'm new to the group.
> We recently bought a house in tenerife and I would like to plant a few palms.
I tried to find Cocos nucifera but none of the nurseries I visited had them.
Could anyone bring me in contact with members who live in tenerife and who could
help me with some info on usable palm and where to find them. The house is at
the sea front with frequent salt-spray.I run a nursery in Belgium (zone 8a) of
ornamental broadleaved trees but when I came to the Canaries, my botanical
knowledge was suddely brought back to basic. So, there is much to learn. This is
exciting!
>
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#9053 From: Brian Bruning <BBruning@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Tenerife
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koolau3@...  he should be in the phone book too.  There are on-line phone books too.  He's a valuable resource. 
 

To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
From: dirk.benoit@...
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:55:04 +0000
Subject: [palmsociety] Re: Tenerife

 
I've read some articles from Carlo Morici but I don't have his email address. Can anyone help me.
Are there any other palms that I could grow so close to the sea in a the dry climate of eastern Tenerife?

--- In palmsociety@yahoogroups.com, Brian Bruning <BBruning@...> wrote:
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> Check with Carlo Morici who is an avid member of the IPS and who lives in Sta. Cruz de Tenerife. He will certainly be able to help you.
>
>
>
>
>
> To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
> From: ellay@...
> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:32:56 -0500
> Subject: RE: [palmsociety] Tenerife
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> You will probably find some coconut trees, but even if you don't, as a nurseryman you should be able to start your own. Just get a few coconuts and give them 6 months or so to germinate.
>
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> LARRY
>
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> From: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com [mailto:palmsociety@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dirk.benoit
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:10 AM
> To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [palmsociety] Tenerife
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm new to the group.
> We recently bought a house in tenerife and I would like to plant a few palms. I tried to find Cocos nucifera but none of the nurseries I visited had them. Could anyone bring me in contact with members who live in tenerife and who could help me with some info on usable palm and where to find them. The house is at the sea front with frequent salt-spray.I run a nursery in Belgium (zone 8a) of ornamental broadleaved trees but when I came to the Canaries, my botanical knowledge was suddely brought back to basic. So, there is much to learn. This is exciting!
>
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>
>
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>
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#9054 From: Nelda Green <oldpalmman@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:10 am
Subject: RE: Re: Seeking Investors for large Acai plantation in South Ca
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All my palms are for sale in South Carolina
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Subject: RE: [palmsociety] Re: Seeking Investors for large Acai plantation in South Califo...
To: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
Cc: palmsociety@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:50 PM

 California is a State where businesses are leaving at a faster rate than new ones are starting.  Regulation and bureaucracies make doing business extremely difficult; water is very expensive and the supply from the Bay area has been cut to save a couple of fish that need the water more than people do.  Expect water costs to double in the next five years; I am appealing my water district's increased rate plans, at this time. Initially, they planned to double this year, and triple for agriculture here.

If you make a profit, you will have to share it with the State in taxes and all kinds of regulatory fees.  If you want to burn cash, you might have a better chance of being successful doing it in Alaska.  I'm not kidding.  Try it in Mexico; their corruption is limited, if you provide jobs.  California doesn't care if they wipe out all jobs and the citizens.  If they are saving the planet from people, it's worth it.
Denis


On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:35 PM , gemvalleymarketing wrote:

 

No Scam. Just a getting started. Still in the developmental/ Idea stage... Give it a chance yo...

And to answer your question: http://www.acaifarm s.comsells the trees at 2 years. Produce fruit in the third year. I have arranged for a bulk order.

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> This sounds like a scam to me. How are you going to have fruiting trees in 3 years from now when nothing has even been started yet... Beware
> www.nzpalmandcycad. com
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>   ----- Original Message -----
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>   Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:54 AM
>   Subject: Re: [palmsociety] Re: Seeking Investors for large Acai plantation in South Califo...
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>   in this scheme.
>   If the trees ever did make fruit in a huge greenhouse, the price of
>   the fruit would have to be $100 a berry.
>   If Acai berries were the Fountain of Youth, they could probably sell
>   them for that.
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>   At 08:11 AM 6/1/2009, you wrote:
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>   >Euterpe oleracea is very tender, its a zone 10b/11 palm, more tender
>   >than E. edulis. It seems their hardiness is similar to Cyrtostachys
>   >renda. I had some in containers a few years ago that were killed at
>   >around 37-38F.
>   >
>   >Eric
>   >Orlando,FL
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#9055 From: michaelmac@...
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:55 pm
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I have just added a new page to the website which focuses on September 23rd, 2009. The day the dust came to the cities of Australia.
It can be found by clicking here
 
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#9056 From: Doug Chenneville <fnotropicals@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:53 pm
Subject: Doug's Birthday Calendar
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Hi

Click on the link below and please enter your birthday for me.  I am creating a
birthday list of all my friends and family.

http://www.birthdayalarm.com/bd2/85900707a568349128b1485635648c572624258d1815

Many Thanks,
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#9057 From: "Mike & Mike" <maxson@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:52 am
Subject: RE: Southern California Palm Society Meetin in Riverside CA. Nov. 21, 2009
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Just a reminder the Palm Society of Southern California meeting is tomorrow Saturday November 21, 2009.   The link below will provide more information on times and directions.

 

http://www.palmssc.org/meetings/meetings.htm

 

Sims Tree Health Specialists is a collection site for Marines Toys for Tots.  If you can, please bring a new unwrapped toy for drop off.

 

Thank you so much and look forward to seeing you tomorrow.

 

Michael Maxson

Sims Tree Health Specialist

Certified Arborist WE-8012A

 


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