Young plants of Ch. seifrizii survived snow and -6C in a light oak woodland
here in Northern Spain. The plants looked quite horrible, but grew and looked
pretty by the Summer.

Jose



> From: Peter <hueppi@...>
>
> Does anybody know how much cold a Chamaedorea seifrizii can or cannot take?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter

Does anybody know how much cold a Chamaedorea seifrizii can or cannot take?

Thanks,
Peter
http://www.compassnet.com/hueppi/tropics/crdbform.htm

hello...
i have a description of the americaulis which i think it refers to
the true palm...
it's common name is the flask palm and it has rings around it...it grows

up to 7 feet...the leaves are similar to the leaves of Areca...
this palm grows mainly in Mascarena island...
i also have i picture of that beautiful palm that i may scan and send it

to you to see if something could be done to restore such a rare palm.
thankyou verymuch...
Hisham Ali

I read an article recently, written by Rolf Kyburz, who found these so
called 'amaricaulis' in a botanical garden in Cuba. Apparently they had
large specimens of two distinct species of Hyophorbe. One was labeled as H.
amaricaulis, and the other as H. lagenicaulis. In appearance, the palms
were definitely two different species, and according to the author, the
palms had a *totally* different appearance to each other.  Interestingly,
the palms labeled as H. amaricaulis appeared to be H.lagenicaulis, and the
plants labeled as H.lagenicaulis were the 'other' species.

Daryl.

Thanks Bob and all for the info on H. americaulis. I have received a response
from my friend at FTG. It is as follows:

"The name H. amaricaulis has been misapplied to H. lagenicaulis for years - in
private collections and botanical gardens. Seedlings with that name must have
come from one of these misidentified plants. To my knowledge, there is only
the one plant in Mauritius. Seeds from this plant sometimes make it back to
the U.S. None has ever germinated. One collector who has never seen this plant
speculated that some plants in a Cuban garden might be this species. I sent a
key to the Hyophorbe species to Cuba and asked for further information.
Information came back in an indirect manner that these plants were not H.
amaricaulis. If I can get the proper licenses, I may go to Cuba this year and
will check these plants out personally.

H. vaughnii is down to five mature individuals in Mauritius. They grow high on
a cool, wet mountain top in a severely leached soil. Seeds are being collected
by the Forestry Department and seedlings have been planted back out into the
wild. I don't know of any in cultivation outside this immediate area. No one
knows their tolerances - they may not succeed in cultivation unless conditions
are similar."

Hope this helps.
Jody Haynes, Webmaster
Palm & Cycad Societies of Florida, Virtual Palm Encyclopedia,
   Virtual Cycad Encyclopedia (http://www.plantapalm.com)


On Monday, December 14, 1998 3:10 PM, Bob Riffle
[SMTP:71270.3070@...] wrote:
> From: Bob Riffle <71270.3070@...>
>
> Unless I dreamt it I think Paul Craft has seen this/these specimen(s)
> of H. amaricaulis in Cuba.  He was here last summer delivering a talk
> on palms in Cuba and I think he had a photo (slide) of H.a.  It was
> a little earlier in the day than I am accustomed to paying detailed
> attention ....
>
> Paul Craft:  palmnut@...
>
> He must be on another expedition or he would have chimed in by now.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and
> select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Visit the IPS website at http://www.palms.org

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:

A friend of mine on the Fairchild Tropical Garden staff has asked me to
announce the upcoming South Florida Palm Symposium planned for the weekend
of 19-20 June, 1999. Registration and general information is up on the web
on the FTG website at http://www.ftg.org/horticulture/palmsym.html. Hope to
see you all there.

Jody Haynes, Webmaster
Palm & Cycad Societies of Florida, Virtual Palm Encyclopedia,
   Virtual Cycad Encyclopedia (http://www.plantapalm.com)

Unless I dreamt it I think Paul Craft has seen this/these specimen(s)
of H. amaricaulis in Cuba.  He was here last summer delivering a talk
on palms in Cuba and I think he had a photo (slide) of H.a.  It was
a little earlier in the day than I am accustomed to paying detailed
attention ....

Paul Craft:  palmnut@...

He must be on another expedition or he would have chimed in by now.

Ben Lyte wrote:
>Can anyone tell me of a palm or number of palms that have to
>consistently be re-introduced to their collections, as they are either
>temperamental or difficult.

Three come to mind which have given me fits, as much as I
try to pamper them in a conservatory environment:

Basselinia gracilis
Cyrtostachys renda
Pinanga caesia


David Thompson
Alella, Barcelona, Spain
Zone 10b

At 10:05 AM 12/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "David B. Thompson" <te@...>
>
>Speaking of information requests that got no response,
>I still have not been able to identify a large Licuala
>that I purchased a few days ago.  Therefore, in the hope
>that someone can help me figure out what I have, I will
>repeat my post:
>
>Yesterday I purchased a rather large (about 2 meters/
>6 feet total height) Licuala, at a surprisingly good
>price, from our local IKEA discount furnishings store.
>Certainly, it was a surprise to find this, in a discount
>store, in an area in which even though everyone has
>palms, they are almost exclusively Phoenix, Washingtonia,
>Trachycarpus, and Chamaerops, and even the good nurseries
>rarely having anything else (maybe an occasional Howea).
>
>Anyway, I have had similar finds before (Hyophorbes of
>similar size at a Home Depot in Minnesota on sale as "Misc.
>Tropical Foliage" for $4.99 apiece), and as was the case
>before, this palm was very poorly labeled (the label simply
>reads "Licuala"), so now I am trying to determine what
>species I have.   I have already smaller specimens of
>Licuala grandis and Licuala peltata var. elegans.  Honestly,
>this new licuala looks almost exactly like both of them.
>What features distinguish those two species, and are there
>any other Licuala species which also might be mistaken for
>those?  The only way in which this new palm appears distinct
>from the younger grandis and peltata is that the leaves have
>a slightly mottled appearance, but I don't know if that is
>an inherent feature, or due to some factor in their
>cultivation and storage.
>
>
>David Thompson
>Alella, Barcelona, Spain
>Zone 10b
>
David,

I had a similar question a few months ago. Here is the answer I got:

It would be nice if growers would label the plants they sell. Everything at
COSCO is 10" tropical foliage. I succumbed to their $13.99 special and
bought a solid leaf Licuala. Would be nice to know if it is a grandis or
peltata/elegans. How does one tell the difference? This one has paired
leaflet tips and small spines on the middle third of the petiole.

Arv


Arv, all the Licualas at Costco are L grandis... L peltata (elegans) is way
too slow for most of those growers to mess with it.
Geoff Stein



>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
>to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and
>select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Visit the IPS website at http://www.palms.org
>
>
>

Can anyone tell me of a palm or number of palms that have to
consistently be re-introduced to their collections, as they are either
temperamental or difficult.  Are their any of the tropical palms that
will not even survive well in a glasshouse situation?

Many thanks in advance,

Ben Lyte

Jody Haynes wrote:
>BTW, where have you seen H. americaulis for sale?
>Were these reputable vendors?

Well, in at least one case, very much so.  Phil Bergman
listed H. amaricaulis on his availability list for a
while last year, but later retracted that identification.

The others were Federico Oste in Italy and a nursery here
in Spain, Viveros Ter, both of whom indicated that they
had a potential supplier for this species and could
import it for me on special order (at outrageous prices,
of course).  In both these cases, I have had no other
dealings with these individuals, so I don't know how
generally reliable they may be.

>A few weeks ago I posted a seed request for this
>latter species to this list but got no leads.

Speaking of information requests that got no response,
I still have not been able to identify a large Licuala
that I purchased a few days ago.  Therefore, in the hope
that someone can help me figure out what I have, I will
repeat my post:

Yesterday I purchased a rather large (about 2 meters/
6 feet total height) Licuala, at a surprisingly good
price, from our local IKEA discount furnishings store.
Certainly, it was a surprise to find this, in a discount
store, in an area in which even though everyone has
palms, they are almost exclusively Phoenix, Washingtonia,
Trachycarpus, and Chamaerops, and even the good nurseries
rarely having anything else (maybe an occasional Howea).

Anyway, I have had similar finds before (Hyophorbes of
similar size at a Home Depot in Minnesota on sale as "Misc.
Tropical Foliage" for $4.99 apiece), and as was the case
before, this palm was very poorly labeled (the label simply
reads "Licuala"), so now I am trying to determine what
species I have.   I have already smaller specimens of
Licuala grandis and Licuala peltata var. elegans.  Honestly,
this new licuala looks almost exactly like both of them.
What features distinguish those two species, and are there
any other Licuala species which also might be mistaken for
those?  The only way in which this new palm appears distinct
from the younger grandis and peltata is that the leaves have
a slightly mottled appearance, but I don't know if that is
an inherent feature, or due to some factor in their
cultivation and storage.


David Thompson
Alella, Barcelona, Spain
Zone 10b

David,

A friend of mine at Fairchild Tropical Garden has seen the individual on
Mauritius and told me recently that it is the only one. As he is the
director of collections, I would assume he would know of any others. I will
ask him about the two plants purported to be in Cuba. If true, that is an
exciting prospect, indeed. Regarding H. vaughanii, I know nothing. I will
also inquire to my friend about this species. A few weeks ago I posted a
seed request for this latter species to this list but got no leads. BTW,
where have you seen H. americaulis for sale? Were these reputable vendors?

Thanks for you input. I will write back when I get more information.

Jody

David B. Thompson wrote:

> From: "David B. Thompson" <te@...>
>
> Jody Haynes wrote:
> >Considering there is only one surviving individual of
> >Hyophorbe americaulis left on Earth and it does not produce
> >fertile seeds, it might be a little difficult to get "authentic"
> >seeds of this species.
>
> Right, that is what my books tell me as well - that's why
> I described the prospects as "unlikely" in repsonding to Hisham.
>
> I assume the specimen you are referring to is that in
> Mauritius.
>
> But what of the reports of two specimens of this species being
> found, fruiting, in a botanical garden in Cuba?  Has that
> ever been confirmed or disproven, and if true, has anyone
> attempted to germinate that seed?
>
> I said "authentic" as I have seen plants of H. amaricaulis
> offered for sale on three occasions, but I can only assume
> that they were misidentified.
>
> Finally, and speaking of Hyophorbe, what is the status of
> H. vaughanii?  The print sources I have refer to it being
> endangered, but not extinct, and yet I have never seen any
> indication of seed or seedlings of this species being
> available.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and
> select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Visit the IPS website at http://www.palms.org

Jody Haynes wrote:
>Considering there is only one surviving individual of
>Hyophorbe americaulis left on Earth and it does not produce
>fertile seeds, it might be a little difficult to get "authentic"
>seeds of this species.

Right, that is what my books tell me as well - that's why
I described the prospects as "unlikely" in repsonding to Hisham.

I assume the specimen you are referring to is that in
Mauritius.

But what of the reports of two specimens of this species being
found, fruiting, in a botanical garden in Cuba?  Has that
ever been confirmed or disproven, and if true, has anyone
attempted to germinate that seed?

I said "authentic" as I have seen plants of H. amaricaulis
offered for sale on three occasions, but I can only assume
that they were misidentified.

Finally, and speaking of Hyophorbe, what is the status of
H. vaughanii?  The print sources I have refer to it being
endangered, but not extinct, and yet I have never seen any
indication of seed or seedlings of this species being
available.

David & Hisham,

Considering there is only one surviving individual of Hyophorbe americaulis
left on Earth and it does not produce fertile seeds, it might be a little
difficult to get "authentic" seeds of this species. Actually, some folks are
considering tissue culture in an attempt to save the species from most
certain extinction. Anybody know how this project is progressing, or if it
is? BTW, I would also be interested in an inexpensive source (if there is
such a thing) of Lodoicea seeds.

Jody

David B. Thompson wrote:

> From: "David B. Thompson" <te@...>
>
> Hisham Ali wrote:
> >i wonder if anyone knows a source to supply seeds
> >of the following species :
> >Zamia floridana - Rhapis excelsa - Lodoicea maldivica - Licuala grandis
> >Hyphaene thebaica - Erythea armata - Copernicia macroglossa- Roystonea
> >regia - oncosperma tigillarium - Hyophorbe amaricaulis -
> >kentia belmoriana - sabal palmeto - Euterpe oleracea - cyrtostachys
> >renda - cocos nucifera - butia capitata - areca catechu -
> >Archontophoenix alexandrae - livistona humilis...
>
> A very interesting list, actually, ranging from the extremely
> common to the extremely rare.
>
> In the unlikely event you get any responses as to a
> source for (authentic) Hyophorbe amaricaulis or for
> Lodoicea maldivica at something other than astronomical
> prices, please let me know.
>
> David Thompson
> Alella, Barcelona, Spain
> Zone 10b
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and
> select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Visit the IPS website at http://www.palms.org



--
Jody Haynes, Webmaster
Palm & Cycad Societies of Florida, Virtual Palm Encyclopedia,
   Virtual Cycad Encyclopedia (http://www.plantapalm.com)

Hisham Ali wrote:
>i wonder if anyone knows a source to supply seeds
>of the following species :
>Zamia floridana - Rhapis excelsa - Lodoicea maldivica - Licuala grandis
>Hyphaene thebaica - Erythea armata - Copernicia macroglossa- Roystonea
>regia - oncosperma tigillarium - Hyophorbe amaricaulis -
>kentia belmoriana - sabal palmeto - Euterpe oleracea - cyrtostachys
>renda - cocos nucifera - butia capitata - areca catechu -
>Archontophoenix alexandrae - livistona humilis...

A very interesting list, actually, ranging from the extremely
common to the extremely rare.

In the unlikely event you get any responses as to a
source for (authentic) Hyophorbe amaricaulis or for
Lodoicea maldivica at something other than astronomical
prices, please let me know.


David Thompson
Alella, Barcelona, Spain
Zone 10b

Hi
Hisham, I might be able to help you with alot of seeds write me directly at my
email let me know where you are at how many seeds your looking for and I will
see what I can do.

                                                       Neil Perello
                                                       Silverpalm Nursery

Hi Ali,
Try:
http://www.compassnet.com/hueppi/tropics/troplink.htm

Good luck,
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: greenery@... [SMTP:greenery@...]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 10:22 AM
To: palmsociety@onelist.com
Subject: [palmsociety] seeds

hello members...
i wonder if anyone knows a source to supply seeds of the following
species :
Zamia floridana - Rhapis excelsa - Lodoicea maldivica - Licuala grandis-

Hyphaene thebaica - Erythea armata - Copernicia macroglossa- Roystonea
regia - oncosperma tigillarium - Hyophorbe amaricaulis -
kentia belmoriana - sabal palmeto - Euterpe oleracea - cyrtostachys
renda - cocos nucifera - butia capitata - areca catechu -
Archontophoenix alexandrae - livistona humilis...

if you know of any source or anyone of you would have seeds of these
speciese, i would appreciate sending me to my email..
name : Hisham Ali
email : greenery@...

thank you very much

hello members...
i wonder if anyone knows a source to supply seeds of the following
species :
Zamia floridana - Rhapis excelsa - Lodoicea maldivica - Licuala grandis-

Hyphaene thebaica - Erythea armata - Copernicia macroglossa- Roystonea
regia - oncosperma tigillarium - Hyophorbe amaricaulis -
kentia belmoriana - sabal palmeto - Euterpe oleracea - cyrtostachys
renda - cocos nucifera - butia capitata - areca catechu -
Archontophoenix alexandrae - livistona humilis...

if you know of any source or anyone of you would have seeds of these
speciese, i would appreciate sending me to my email..
name : Hisham Ali
email : greenery@...

thank you very much

Jody,

He probably has a male Canary Island Date.  With males the inflorescence
[which somewhat resembles a broom] is short lived and turns gray, while the
female inflorescences retain their brighter color for a much longer time.

Bernie
-----Original Message-----
From: Jody Haynes <jlh@...>
To: ips@... <ips@...>; palmsociety@onelist.com
<palmsociety@onelist.com>
Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 7:24 AM
Subject: [palmsociety] CA Palm ID


>From: Jody Haynes <jlh@...>
>
>Dear all,
>
>I received the following query from a visitor to our website. Any
assistance
>from the California folks on this list would be greatly appreciated.
>
>"I have a palm tree in my back yard which I have been trying to
>identify for some time.  I live in Livermore, Califronia (the Bay area).
>This palm is a volunteer and is possibly about 20 years old.  It resembles
>a Canary Island date palm, but its broom is gray colored instead of the
>orange color typical of those.  Otherwise it has long feather-shaped
>fronds. Can someone tell me which of these types are common in northern
>California, and what I should expect from it.
>Paul"
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jody Haynes, Webmaster
>Palm & Cycad Societies of Florida, Virtual Palm Encyclopedia,
>  Virtual Cycad Encyclopedia (http://www.plantapalm.com)
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
>to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and
>select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Visit the IPS website at http://www.palms.org
>

Okay, I've joined the new list.  (Thanks, Phil)

I also have a new URL:

http://surf.to/hardypalms

In case some of you missed it because you've dropped the old list:

I have updated some of the pictures on the Growing Hardy Palms site at:

http://users.visi.net/~len

and

http://www.geocities.com/thetropics/1811
(and at the new URL)
I am planning to update the links again soon (they have not been updated
since May).  If you have a site that you'd like me to link to, please send
me email.  (I'd also like to join the palm webring, so I'd love to see that
info.)

Thanks,

Leonard Holmes
      7.5¢ Flat Rate Long Distance - http://surf.to/longdistance
                            .............
http://netpsych.com/holmes          http://mentalhealth.miningco.com
len@...     Leonard Holmes Ph.D.     http://users.visi.net/~len

Dear all,

I received the following query from a visitor to our website. Any assistance
from the California folks on this list would be greatly appreciated.

"I have a palm tree in my back yard which I have been trying to
identify for some time.  I live in Livermore, Califronia (the Bay area).
This palm is a volunteer and is possibly about 20 years old.  It resembles
a Canary Island date palm, but its broom is gray colored instead of the
orange color typical of those.  Otherwise it has long feather-shaped
fronds. Can someone tell me which of these types are common in northern
California, and what I should expect from it.
Paul"

Thanks in advance,
Jody Haynes, Webmaster
Palm & Cycad Societies of Florida, Virtual Palm Encyclopedia,
   Virtual Cycad Encyclopedia (http://www.plantapalm.com)

Hi Charlene,

It's easy to tell male Chamadorea stolonifera from female without photos;
the male inflorescence has many small branchlets, while the female is either
a simple spike or a "double spike".  The female inflorescence is also rather
fleshy.  I hope that helps.

Bernie.
-----Original Message-----
From: Charlene Grall <cgrall@...>
To: palmsociety@onelist.com <palmsociety@onelist.com>
Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 5:49 PM
Subject: [palmsociety] Chamaedorea stolonifera


>From: Charlene Grall <cgrall@...>
>
>OOh OOh OOh.
>I have been wondering if I have males or females. Any description or photo
>online of the inflorescence of each?
>
>Thanks,
>Charlene
>-----------
>
>At 02:54 PM 12/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>From: palmhut@... (william shannon)
>>
>>David--- Another way to propagate Ch. stolonifera is to put the attached
>>stolon in an adjacent pot, filled with potting soil, directly on the
>>surface of the medium, weighted down with a rock. The stolon will put
>>out roots in 3 or 4 months. The stolon can then be removed from the
>>parent plant.  An alternate method is to wrap the stolon with damp
>>sphagnum until the stolon develops roots and then remove the stolon and
>>put it in a pot.                           Several years ago Dave Besst
>>gave me a male plant and this year I harvested 8 seeds from one of my
>>females.This is something that I have wanted to do for 20 years.
>>Stonifera is a spectacular palm.       Best of luck. Bill
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or
>>service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit
>>http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information.
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Visit the IPS website at http://www.palms.org
>>
>>
>>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Charlene Grall * University of Miami
>4600 Rickenbacker Cswy. * Miami, FL 33149
>PH: 305/361-4119 * FX: 305/361-4112
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or
>service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit
>http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Visit the IPS website at http://www.palms.org
>

OOh OOh OOh.
I have been wondering if I have males or females. Any description or photo
online of the inflorescence of each?

Thanks,
Charlene
-----------

At 02:54 PM 12/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>From: palmhut@... (william shannon)
>
>David--- Another way to propagate Ch. stolonifera is to put the attached
>stolon in an adjacent pot, filled with potting soil, directly on the
>surface of the medium, weighted down with a rock. The stolon will put
>out roots in 3 or 4 months. The stolon can then be removed from the
>parent plant.  An alternate method is to wrap the stolon with damp
>sphagnum until the stolon develops roots and then remove the stolon and
>put it in a pot.                           Several years ago Dave Besst
>gave me a male plant and this year I harvested 8 seeds from one of my
>females.This is something that I have wanted to do for 20 years.
>Stonifera is a spectacular palm.       Best of luck. Bill
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or
>service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit
>http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Visit the IPS website at http://www.palms.org
>
>
>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Charlene Grall * University of Miami
4600 Rickenbacker Cswy. * Miami, FL 33149
PH: 305/361-4119 * FX: 305/361-4112

David--- Another way to propagate Ch. stolonifera is to put the attached
stolon in an adjacent pot, filled with potting soil, directly on the
surface of the medium, weighted down with a rock. The stolon will put
out roots in 3 or 4 months. The stolon can then be removed from the
parent plant.  An alternate method is to wrap the stolon with damp
sphagnum until the stolon develops roots and then remove the stolon and
put it in a pot.                           Several years ago Dave Besst
gave me a male plant and this year I harvested 8 seeds from one of my
females.This is something that I have wanted to do for 20 years.
Stonifera is a spectacular palm.       Best of luck. Bill

To Gary or anyone who purchased any of Dypsis SC 5/95 from Gary
Wood, or anyone who knows where this seed originated.  I was wondering if
anyone had any ideas or guesses on exactly which species of Dypsis this
really might be.  I've looked through my Palms of Madagascar book and am
still stumped.  At Phil Bergman's annual open house sale, I think I saw the
same plants labeled Dypsis sp. SC 5/95 "Fat Base".  I know there's lots of
taxonomic and identification uncertainty regarding many of the so called
Dypsis "sp.", but I just I just wanted to see if anyone had any ideas.
	 As for the listserver controversy, it seems like kind of a joke.  I
for one will subscribe to both Palms@onelist.com, and
palmsociety@onelist.com.  Why, because I like palms.  The ultimate goal is
for people to be able to exchange resources,information, knowledge,
experiences, etc..  Am I right?   If it takes two lists to meet everyone's
goals and interests, then so be it.
	 For those who haven't caught on, here's the new list server/web
page summary:

ips@...----> Soon to be Dead!
palmsociety@onelist.com---> The new official IPS listserver (NO advertising)
Palms@onelist.com---> List owned by Gary Wood (Moderate palm related adds
allowed)
IPS bulletin board via IPS homepage---> (Moderate adds allowed)

Plant a palm, you'll all feel much better!  Aloha
							 Brian Bodas
							 Encinitas, CA, USA

Test.

Dave,
A surefire but somewhat slow way to propogate Cham. stoninifera is as follows:
You have a plant with a running stoline.  run the stolin directly into the
bottom drainage whole of a one gallon pot filled with potting soil.  Point the
stolin upwards.  Do not cut it from the mother plant at this time.  Allow it
to surface and grow.  With time, it will establish roots of it's own in the
one gallon pot and still have the strength from the mother plant.  After one
year, cut the connecting stoline from the mother outside the one gallon pot.
At this point, you're done.  Most people will propogate multiple stolines into
different pots all at the same time and cut them the following year.  It works
real well.  Good luck.
Phil

In a message dated 98-12-09 08:31:13 EST, bizmark@... writes:

<< Subj:  [palmsociety] Chamaedorea stolonifera
  Date: 98-12-09 08:31:13 EST
  From: bizmark@... (David Edwin Witt)
  Reply-to: palmsociety@onelist.com
  To: palmsociety@onelist.com

  How would I go about propogating this one ?  Could I just cut off plants from
the stolons & start them ?

  How long do Jubaea seeds last ?  I have some from over a year ago & still
nothing (they all sunk).

  Thanks,
  Dave Witt
  Orlando, Fl.

  --------------------
  <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">

  <HEAD>

  <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type>
  <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=GENERATOR>
  </HEAD>

  <DIV>How would I go about propogating this one
  ?&nbsp; Could I just cut off plants from the stolons &amp; start them
  ?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>How long do Jubaea seeds last ?&nbsp; I have
  some from over a year ago &amp; still nothing (they all sunk).</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
  <DIV>Dave Witt</DIV>
  <DIV>Orlando, Fl.</DIV>

Hello:

Donot know about the Chamadorea, but I collected some J. chilensis seed
visitng San Diego in Nov.1995.  Germinated in Oct.1996. About 18 seeds
germinated, 16 plants survived, 14 eventually died within the first year, two
aare alive and well to this day (surprisingly) with several pinnate leaves,
about 1.5 ft.tall.
Armando, Miami

How would I go about propogating this one ?  Could I just cut off plants from
the stolons & start them ?

How long do Jubaea seeds last ?  I have some from over a year ago & still
nothing (they all sunk).

Thanks,
Dave Witt
Orlando, Fl.