> Yes there is, find out who the delivery driver was on that route that day
> and interrogate him as to where he left it.

Ve Vill ask der qvestions?
Dennis

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:44:38 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:

> > We used to have small blue wheelie bins, which were for paper only, so
> > putting a parcel in there was reasonable, provided it wasn't
> > collection day (they were only collected every five weeks). Now we
> > have a
>
> And how were you supposed to know when to put it out?   :-(

That's easy, you put it out when the neighbours put their's out :)


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At 11:40 27/11/2009, you wrote:
>Hello trotter,
>
>Royal Mail very rarely actually leave cards, which is a pain in the ar....
>despite what they may tell you. Take it from someone who deals with them on
>a daily basis.


Its starting to look like this is what has happened despite what the
call centre
said.

Martin N


Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of  MiniDisc and
amithlonopen yahoo groups.

At 08:54 27/11/2009, you wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:30:23 +0000
>trotter <m.nuttall@...> wrote:
>
> > According to the tracking site for royalmail the parcel couldn't be
> > delivered as I
> > wasn't in. Of course I was so I am thinking the might of not been
> > bothered and stuck a card somewhere.
>
>Ah, they're pulling That One on you. Living right out on the edge of
>town, I've run into them playing that game a few times - they either can't
>be arsed, or don't have time, to deliver it, so they don't even bother
>coming out here - they mark it as attempted delivery and /if I'm really
>lucky/, mail the delivery attempt note to me by second class post (so I get
>it about a week later).
>
>I strongly recommend that you phone them up and ask them to deliver it to
>your local post office, and then pick it up from there yourself. Otherwise
>you're probably going to end up waiting weeks.


Darn a bit late now have ringed up for redelivery on monday.

Nice to hear a british women on the call centre that i can understand as well.
I would of expected the indian call centre since royal mail are a monopoly.

Martin N



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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:16:21 +0000
Neil Bothwick <neil@...> wrote:

Hello Neil,

> We used to have small blue wheelie bins, which were for paper only, so
> putting a parcel in there was reasonable, provided it wasn't collection
> day (they were only collected every five weeks). Now we have a

And how were you supposed to know when to put it out?   :-(

At least with a fortnightly collection there's only a 50/50 chance of
putting the bin out the wrong week.

> full-sized blue bin that is for mixed recyclables: paper, card, cans,
> glass jars and bottles, plastic bottles and probably something else.

Green box for tins & plastic bottles, but *not* vacuum formed stuff like
mushroom boxes.  Green bag for paper, green wheelie bin for garden
waste, brown bag fro cardboard (much of which I get delivered wont fit).

> Then we have the green bin for garden waste, although I compost much
> of that myself rather than paying the council to take it away who then

Same here.  Oh, the council doesn't recycle here, but sends stuff from
North Devon to Kent.  That makes sense.  I don't think.

> farm the job out to a company that turn it into compost and sell it
> back to me at the local garden centre (which is owned by the same

Which has been composted using commercial techniques.  That is, applying
vast amounts of heat to speed up the process.  So much for reducing their
carbon foot print.

> company that collects the green bins). It seems that as far as garden
> waste is concerned, the commodity that gets recycled the most is my
> money :(

Quite.

In any event, a fair amount of our rubbish is burned during the winter
months, as we can use it on the wood burner.  Winter seems to last about
8 months of the year, ATM.   :-(

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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:28:49 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:

> > day's post pushed it though. The card said the parcel had been put i
> > the blue bin - guess what was the last thing she'd done before going
> > to work that morning :(
>
> Bugger.   :-(
>
> Anyway, what's the blue bin for?  We've got black and green wheelie
> bins, but no blue.  OTOH, we also have a green box (as opposed to a
> wheelie bin), a green bag, a brown bag and a small green compost bin.

We used to have small blue wheelie bins, which were for paper only, so
putting a parcel in there was reasonable, provided it wasn't collection
day (they were only collected every five weeks). Now we have a full-sized
blue bin that is for mixed recyclables: paper, card, cans, glass
jars and bottles, plastic bottles and probably something else.

Then we have the green bin for garden waste, although I compost much of that
myself rather than paying the council to take it away who then farm the
job out to a company that turn it into compost and sell it back to me at
the local garden centre (which is owned by the same company that collects
the green bins). It seems that as far as garden waste is concerned, the
commodity that gets recycled the most is my money :(


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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:54:26 -0000
"Kulwant" <kbml@...> wrote:

Hello Kulwant,

> Yes there is, find out who the delivery driver was on that route that

Often easier said than done, IME.  Companies are reluctant to tell you
who was driving that day, I find.  Like Richard, I live in the middle of
nowhere, and can hear any vehicles approaching, even without the benefit
of a neighbour's dog.

The worst thing is when I've paid for a Saturday delivery, and it
doesn't arrive.  There's a /reason/ I wanted it on a Saturday.  Either
to work the weekend, or to be sure it's there for Monday morning.  If
it's not, it often means a loss of earnings.   :-(

Of course, the delivery company won't cover that.  Merely refund the
delivery charge.   :-((

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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:13:41 +0000
Chris <chris@...> wrote:

Hello Chris,

I totally agree with you, Chris.

> The whole damned thing is a farce, really. I suspect that none of them

You're not wrong.  The thing is, the council can't leave your rubbish
there forever.  It becomes a health hazard, and they're obliged to
remove it.  Of course, they /might/ try and charge a fine, but I'd just
point at a >£2500 per annum council tax bill, *just* for emptying our
bins.  No street lighting, hedge trimming done by farmers, not council,
no road sweeping.  Even the road is being washed away......

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Hello trotter,

Royal Mail very rarely actually leave cards, which is a pain in the ar....
despite what they may tell you. Take it from someone who deals with them on
a daily basis.

Thursday, November 26, 2009, 9:30:23 PM, you wrote:

> Hello,

> According to the tracking site for royalmail the parcel couldn't be
> delivered as I
> wasn't in. Of course I was so I am thinking the might of not been bothered and
> stuck a card somewhere.

> Any daft places that people have had cards stuffed before that i could look
in?

> thanks

> Martin N

> Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of  MiniDisc and
> amithlonopen yahoo groups.






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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:28:49 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad@...> wrote:

> Shit, we've had more plastic dumped in our place in the name of
> "recycling" than goes to the dump.  Maybe that's the idea.   :-()

Got a thing from the council here a while back, telling everyone how We
Need To Do More Recycling.

It outright said that if the council hasn't met some arbitrary (and, I
suspect, impossible) Government mandated target by some time in the near
future, the county would be fined. This will mean that Uncle Vinny Will Be
Very Unhappy and council tax will jump to pay for it because we're all
horrible wastrels who refuse to recycle.

I noted this to my fiancee as we walked around Buxton* a couple of months
ago, pointing that /every single public bin/ on the streets and other
public areas is a single receptacle trash bin. There's no separation of
cans, bottles, paper, and other waste in any of them, anywhere in the
town, so what are people supposed to do? Hold onto their trash until they
get to the only public places that seem to have recycling bins (ie:
supermarket car parks), or they get home? A lot of towns in the council
area are heavy tourist areas, and street bins are often full even when
they're emptied more than daily - yet they have done nothing to help with
recycling there.

And then there's the ridiculous restrictions on what can and can't be put
in various council-provided bins, boxes, and bags, so that quite a number of
people I know have had Nasty Notices for putting something in one thing
when it should have gone in another... or they don't even have the
facilities to deal with it and it has to go in general waste anyway!

The whole damned thing is a farce, really. I suspect that none of them have
realised that the way to make people recycle more is to make it easier for
them, not posture at them and make them have to go out of their way with
crap provision and convoluted rules...

chris

* Buxton is one of the major towns in the High Peak Borough Council's
   jurisdiction, and is usually treated by them as the only one worth paying
   any attention to. If anywhere in the HPBC area was going to get upgraded
   facilities, it's Buxton...
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Hello Kulwant,

Friday, November 27, 2009, 11:54:26 AM, you wrote:

> My experience is that if there's no card, the driver was too lazy to even
> attempt delivery or running late (as I've found after being in all day only
> to find it's been marked as "attempted delivery").

Had that happen last week, it was some urgent stock I needed, they said I
was out. Baring in mind I'm less than 10 foot from the front door at my
desk, living here in the middle of nowhere I can hear every vehicle that
goes up and down this road, which during the day is probably less than 5 an
hour, there's only one path to the property, and next doors dog goes berserk
when anyone comes down the path.

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Brad Rogers Sent: 27 November 2009 08:18

> TBH, there's no way of knowing where, or even if, delivery was
> attempted.   :-((

Yes there is, find out who the delivery driver was on that route that day
and interrogate him as to where he left it.

My experience is that if there's no card, the driver was too lazy to even
attempt delivery or running late (as I've found after being in all day only
to find it's been marked as "attempted delivery").

Kulwant

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:35:34 +0000
Neil Bothwick <neil@...> wrote:

Hello Neil,

> day's post pushed it though. The card said the parcel had been put i
> the blue bin - guess what was the last thing she'd done before going
> to work that morning :(

Bugger.   :-(

Anyway, what's the blue bin for?  We've got black and green wheelie bins,
but no blue.  OTOH, we also have a green box (as opposed to a wheelie
bin), a green bag, a brown bag and a small green compost bin.

Shit, we've had more plastic dumped in our place in the name of
"recycling" than goes to the dump.  Maybe that's the idea.   :-()

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         / _)rad        never immediately apparent"

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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:18:08 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:

> TBH, there's no way of knowing where, or even if, delivery was
> attempted.   :-((

There are worse outcomes. My daughter received a parcel and the postman
wedged a card in the letterbox, between the outer and inner flaps, so she
didn't see it until she got back from work the next day when that day's
post pushed it though. The card said the parcel had been put i the blue
bin - guess what was the last thing she'd done before going to work that
morning :(


--
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  -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°3

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:09:04 +0000
trotter <m.nuttall@...> wrote:

Hello trotter,

> As in next door?
> or as instead of 80 ,18?

Or even another street.   :-(

TBH, there's no way of knowing where, or even if, delivery was
attempted.   :-((

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         / _)rad        never immediately apparent"

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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:30:23 +0000
trotter <m.nuttall@...> wrote:

> According to the tracking site for royalmail the parcel couldn't be
> delivered as I
> wasn't in. Of course I was so I am thinking the might of not been
> bothered and stuck a card somewhere.

Ah, they're pulling That One on you. Living right out on the edge of
town, I've run into them playing that game a few times - they either can't
be arsed, or don't have time, to deliver it, so they don't even bother
coming out here - they mark it as attempted delivery and /if I'm really
lucky/, mail the delivery attempt note to me by second class post (so I get
it about a week later).

I strongly recommend that you phone them up and ask them to deliver it to
your local post office, and then pick it up from there yourself. Otherwise
you're probably going to end up waiting weeks.

chrish

At 22:02 26/11/2009, you wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:30:23 +0000
>trotter <m.nuttall@...> wrote:
>
>Hello trotter,
>
> > Any daft places that people have had cards stuffed before that i could
> > look in?
>
>Somebody else's house.


As in next door?
or as instead of 80 ,18?

Martin N

Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of  MiniDisc and
amithlonopen yahoo groups.

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:30:23 +0000
trotter <m.nuttall@...> wrote:

Hello trotter,

> Any daft places that people have had cards stuffed before that i could
> look in?

Somebody else's house.

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Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999

Hello,

According to the tracking site for royalmail the parcel couldn't be
delivered as I
wasn't in. Of course I was so I am thinking the might of not been bothered and
stuck a card somewhere.

Any daft places that people have had cards stuffed before that i could look in?

thanks

Martin N

Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of  MiniDisc and
amithlonopen yahoo groups.

There's a time and a place for everything but I'm not sure if this is one of
them :-)
http://tinyurl.com/y8lh4pg

Andy Knight

Fear knocks at the door, knowledge answers and finds nothing.

At 17:57 22/11/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Martin,
>
>       Interesting twist on the statement that the
>German minister said of his experience in Nazi Germany,
>and his plea for people to not do as he did.


Yes it is but what can we do apart from talk on these forums?

Vote out labour and get in a party thats even more likely to look
after the rich companies?

We do seem to be sleepwalking into a serious situation were only
communist states are more monitored than the UK.

Martin N


Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of  MiniDisc and
amithlonopen yahoo groups.

Hi Martin,

       Interesting twist on the statement that the
German minister said of his experience in Nazi Germany,
and his plea for people to not do as he did.

                               Julian.

A little over the top but its going this way

How can a government be so IT illiterate?

Martin N

>What does an Internet Police State look like?  The UK may show us!
>
>http://bit.ly/8ZXmMl  (Boing Boing)
>
>If I may paraphrase Pastor Martin Niemoller:
>
>    First they tapped the telephones, and I did not speak out--because
>    I rarely used the telephone.
>
>    Then they demanded that we all carry hi-tech ID cards, and I did
>    not speak out--because the cards seemed oh so very convenient.
>
>    Then they installed video surveillance CCTV cameras everywhere, and
>    I did not speak out--because they told us that the cameras would
>    fight crime and terrorism.
>
>    Then they took control of the Internet, and I did not speak
>    out--because they said that entertainment industry profits and
>    monitoring of our Internet activities were much more important than
>    individual freedoms.
>
>    And then they came for me--and there was no way left to
>    speak out at all.


Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of  MiniDisc and
amithlonopen yahoo groups.

Hello,

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pamiga@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pamiga@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>Of W.R.van Straalen
>Sent: 19 November 2009 22:24
>To: pamiga@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pamiga] Re: Anyone out there? Anyone care?
>
>play Mafia wars on Facebook!!!
>
>On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:19 PM, antdos <antdos@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --- In pamiga@yahoogroups.com <pamiga%40yahoogroups.com>, Julian
>> <jaronowitz@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > antdos wrote:
>> >
>> > > --- In pamiga@yahoogroups.com <pamiga%40yahoogroups.com>, "Barry"
>> <wisecracker@> wrote:
>> > >> Is the pamiga ML going slowly dying?
>> > >
>> > > Given the enthusiastic response to this email... I'd say yes, but
>then
>> it's probably been yes for a few years.
>> > >
>> > > Is it possible to revive it?
>> > >
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > I do not think pamiga group is necessarily dying.
>> > I believe it is just that the members do not have as
>> > much time to correspond and participate as they once
>> > had. So, a group becoming relatively quiet does not
>> > mean it is dying. What can tell you it is dying is
>> > when people unsubscribe from the list or literally die.
>>
>> You're probably right. It would be a shame - where would I get my
>random
>> mails and links from?? :)
>>
>> Ant :)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Kind regards, / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>
>Wouter
>
>
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>
>
>
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play Mafia wars on Facebook!!!

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:19 PM, antdos <antdos@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In pamiga@yahoogroups.com <pamiga%40yahoogroups.com>, Julian
> <jaronowitz@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > antdos wrote:
> >
> > > --- In pamiga@yahoogroups.com <pamiga%40yahoogroups.com>, "Barry"
> <wisecracker@> wrote:
> > >> Is the pamiga ML going slowly dying?
> > >
> > > Given the enthusiastic response to this email... I'd say yes, but then
> it's probably been yes for a few years.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to revive it?
> > >
>
> [snip]
>
> > I do not think pamiga group is necessarily dying.
> > I believe it is just that the members do not have as
> > much time to correspond and participate as they once
> > had. So, a group becoming relatively quiet does not
> > mean it is dying. What can tell you it is dying is
> > when people unsubscribe from the list or literally die.
>
> You're probably right. It would be a shame - where would I get my random
> mails and links from?? :)
>
> Ant :)
>
>
>



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gotta love thunderbird i do recommend it never tried claw myself tho

leigh

Dennis wrote:
> Many thanks Barrie,
> I am having a shit of a time sorting out my address book.
> I want to MOVE all my addresses into folders like "Friends" and "Enemas" but
> Windows Live Mail will only let me COPY.
> I am then left with 204 addresses in one big list and also in the folders.
> I will have a go with Thunderbird when I get used to 7.
> Dennis
>
>

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:20:40 +1300
"Dennis" <jdlrobb@...> wrote:

> I am then left with 204 addresses in one big list and also in the folders.
> I will have a go with Thunderbird when I get used to 7.

You might want to give claws-mail a look, too. The windows version trails
the linux version a bit, but it's still pretty decent overall.

chris
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