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... But how many languages distinguish /z/ from /Z/ or /d_Z/? You have to look at the entire picture. There aren't so many languages that have two (or more)...
Risto Kupsala
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I have a couple of questions about the vocabulary, and maybe Risto or somebody else could let me know where these words come from (origin). There are a number...
Jens Wilkinson
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... I have recorded etymologies, but I haven't put them to the site. It's at home (and I'm at work now), but I can remember where these words come from. ... ...
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I return to this old topic. Earlier I said that I'm fond of Malay/Indonesian word shape. It's midway, not too simple and not too complex. What it means for...
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... Do you have examples of closed syllables that have been "creeping" into Pandunia? I still plan to leave only (N) as endings for Neo Patwa syllables. There...
Jens Wilkinson
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Dec 5, 2007
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... too ... As you know I too like the CVC shape, or more like C(G)VC shape and agree about Indonesian being a good phonological and morphological model to go...
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... It's hard to say because different speakers are going to bring different habits with them. Most euroglots obviously have no problem with a final /s/, and...
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... My only question here is why have a root at all. Something like "go/move down" would keep the root count down and still get the point across. ... Which is...
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... Well, there are a lot of words that could end in consonant but in stead I have selected forms with a vowel in the end. For example a word that you asked...
Risto Kupsala
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... Then how would you say "I climbed down from the tree" and "I fell down from the tree"? The latter: "I went down from the tree by accident"? ... "Jump"...
Risto Kupsala
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Dec 5, 2007
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... it ... The general method of using the a common epenthetic from somewhere other than the source language is pretty workable, but not consistent. In my...
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Dec 6, 2007
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... The oligosythetic approach can be interesting because it helps us think about how to simplify things, but there is a point where it becomes "unnatural". To...
Jens Wilkinson
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Dec 6, 2007
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... accident"? There are ways around it. Realize that "falling" as you describe isn't quite descent in the strict sense of just "moving downward", but moving...
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... Yes, there is a point where it becomes impractical because they are too verbose. I won't say "unnatural" because even the compounded roots could be...
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Dec 6, 2007
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... This method is interesting (I'd call it "ki-pu-ta"), but I am now troubled... From what I read from the studies of Sophie Kern (a French linguist), about...
Florent Garet
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Dec 6, 2007
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... troubled... ... In Finnish -i is always added: pankki (bank), siirappi (syrup), paketti (packet). So it is ki-pi-ti system. I have noticed that Swahili...
Risto Kupsala
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Dec 6, 2007
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... make ... not ... all ... Loanwords which already have a vowel don't need any empenthetic. It's something only used for words that need an extra vowel to...
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Dec 7, 2007
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... But some words come both with and without final vowel. A simple example is the word "tomato". In some languages it ends in consonant, like Indonesian...
Risto Kupsala
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Dec 8, 2007
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... empenthetic. ... epenthetic ... That's when you kind of have to decide which language you are really taking the word from. Many of those are forms which...
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... Adding a vowel has the advantage to "protect" the preceeding consonant again phonetic "wear". I would currently choose "tomati", because of my "pa-ti-ku"...
Florent Garet
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Dec 9, 2007
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... or -e ... consonant again ... Then what's protecting the final vowels from being reduced or disappearing? ;-) I admit that some consonants, namely stops,...
Risto Kupsala
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Dec 9, 2007
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... Nothing is really stopping them, but I think the idea of phonetic wear is overinflated. PD is supposed to be an auxlang, therefore an L2. As an L2 I'd...
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Dec 9, 2007
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... system. What I use is more of a "pu-ta-ki" system. The reason for those vowels are that [u] assimilates better with [p], likewise for [i] and [k] or [S]....
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... Ok, it was a bad argument... To sum up the ways of treating roots: 1. keep only the bare root: tomat 2. add a final vowel, following some euphonic rules:...
Florent Garet
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Dec 9, 2007
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... Your system is fairly logic, I seriously consider using it. Maybe "pa-ti-ku" is only valable for baby's untrained vocal organs? -- Florent...
Florent Garet
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Dec 9, 2007
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... Any relation to the "Whitewater" scandal? I see a few systems for dealing with roots. 1. Allow closed syllables. "tomat" 2. A fixed epenthetic. Pick a...
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... None. It was mostly a French affair: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearstream -- Florent...
Florent Garet
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Dec 9, 2007
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... That was really more of a joke because of the similarity in names. It's amazing how many people still support Billary Clinton, and how a this and others...
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Dec 10, 2007
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... /kliRstRim/ or /kliR@stRim/ (in the South). -- Florent...
Florent Garet
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Dec 10, 2007
11:36 am
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The topic line promises more than I have to offer right now. The crash course that is currently an idea for a comic that I've been thinking about recently. I...
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