... Ah hah! Now I get it. If this was explained earlier, I apologize for not understanding. Put this way, it makes excellent sense, though I might prefer it...
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Brass Tilde
brasstilde@...
Oct 3, 2005 5:24 pm
... the ... we ... programs do. Honestly, I don't think you two are that far apart on this. andargor's <pcgen version="x.x" /> element is Devon's "section 1"....
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 3, 2005 5:39 pm
Just to be clear (referencing the title) we are *not* considering XML for lst at this time, this is purely XML for the saved .pcg file. XML for lst is a much...
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 3, 2005 5:40 pm
... Section 2 will take a long time, and may never be fully realized. Section 2 may not appear it, but it's *hard* ... Precisely, we can even contain if we...
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Brass Tilde
brasstilde@...
Oct 3, 2005 5:53 pm
... I'll reiterate someone else's point here though, that some things are *not* necessarily level dependent, such as one's possessions. It *is* true that most...
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 3, 2005 9:53 pm
Ok, I have put some more thought into this, and I have an expanded proposal. I want to do what Java, and the OpenDocument people have done. I want a pcg...
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Gargola
alograg
Oct 3, 2005 11:51 pm
All of you, dont want lst to by a xml? Alograg ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexión a Internet y <b...
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 4, 2005 12:09 am
... It's more complicated then want at this point in time. The internal parser of pcgen can't really handle an overhaul like the lst conversion right now, and...
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andargor
Oct 4, 2005 1:43 am
... $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx Although I would very much to see LST -> XML, Devon is right in saying that its too soon for that, considering the...
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andargor
Oct 4, 2005 1:43 am
... useful, ... any ... mime type ... should ... That's an interesting idea, and makes it flexible. I'm sold. You know, you could store the actual outputsheet...
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Fred Drake
pythondocs
Oct 4, 2005 3:35 am
... They were right, of course. Sections 1 and 2 are strictly level-based information; possessions or other point-in-time information ("broken arm") is...
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Al Beddow
awb_gaming1
Oct 4, 2005 3:35 am
I'll re-add my thoughts as others have... ... Fine ... Not needed... ... Of course ... I used 'normalization' as a way to show where my thinking was coming ...
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Keith Davies
jdk_kjdavies
Oct 4, 2005 3:44 am
... I agree. We didn't have *too* much trouble coming up with workable XML for LST[1]; what hosed us was the difficulty that would be involved in getting XML ...
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Fred Drake
pythondocs
Oct 4, 2005 7:49 am
... +1 -- This is very easy to work with in different languages these days. ... It looks like PCgen wouldn't be using any of these; is that right? ... Hmm....
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 4, 2005 2:54 pm
... keep in mind, this is text. I just tested out one of these files (the ziped up style I was recommending in the next thread), and *with* an embedded image...
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Brass Tilde
brasstilde@...
Oct 4, 2005 3:16 pm
... While I completely agree that the criticism is harsh (though I would say more than a little, and unjustified to boot), I'm not sure I agree with ...
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Brass Tilde
brasstilde@...
Oct 4, 2005 3:25 pm
... Why would the PCGen character data, i.e. the current PCG file, or the previous "section 1", not be "content"? ... useful, ... mimetype does what exactly?...
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Andrew Wilson
ytitendi
Oct 4, 2005 7:03 pm
... I think lst to XML is an abysmal idea. XML is not a nice format for people to work in, it's fine for computer to computer exchange. It's rubbish if...
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Andrew Wilson
ytitendi
Oct 4, 2005 7:03 pm
... Sounds good to me. ... I think we should. andrew -- Pisces: (Feb. 19 - March 20) There is nothing in your world more satisfying than a good taco and a can...
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Brass Tilde
brasstilde@...
Oct 4, 2005 7:20 pm
... To a certain extent, I agree, but with a properly configured schema, and a schema aware editor and parser, the results could be much more easily validated...
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 4, 2005 7:36 pm
... Consider that it's even harder now, cause pcgen supports adding new tokens via plugin. No real good way to support that via xml..... Devon...
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 4, 2005 9:22 pm
... technically yes, but the structure of the current.xml file declared as a part of opendocument won't work for us. It won't fill the need. ... mimetype...
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 4, 2005 9:23 pm
... Fair point :) Devon...
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Fred Drake
pythondocs
Oct 5, 2005 1:44 am
... We're definately looking at the issues of packaging format vs. content format here. Welcome to a world of tedium. :-) It is content. It's not a...
1169
gamer_dude@...
awb_gaming1
Oct 5, 2005 1:44 am
... Debuging is nice and I agree that a data format which lets you debug will be helpful. I guessing that there is an idea that I'm just not catching. In my...
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 5, 2005 7:10 am
... See, and I don't necessarily expect it to be quite that - I'm expecting it to be more of a file that lets the program log, non-destructively, so that the...
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Brass Tilde
brasstilde@...
Oct 5, 2005 11:04 am
... the ... Yeah, I'd forgotten about that. Again however, properly constructed schemas could be merged into one "master" schema. A schema aware editor that...
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Brass Tilde
brasstilde@...
Oct 5, 2005 11:49 am
... OK, so it's the mime-type for the package itself, with the mime-types for the files within the package declared within those files, right? Brad...
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Brass Tilde
brasstilde@...
Oct 5, 2005 12:10 pm
... the ... Tell me about it. ... I have to ask why adherence to the OpenDocument format is so important. I'm not saying it isn't, just asking why it is. What...
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Devon Jones
hunterd_us
Oct 5, 2005 5:18 pm
... well, a number of reasons: 1) It'll be a lot easier for people to write code against it, because vast chunks of our file format have a full spec as well as...