Hi folks,

I bought a TX a few weeks ago, my first Palm in several months,
thinking I could sync it both at work and at home like I once was
able to do. Well, my IT people at work no longer support Palm, so I
have to continue to use my Dell x50v to sync there (where most of my
action items and appointments are generated). Then I sync at home
and then I sync to the Palm. The most sensible thing for me to do is
to just use the Palm for personal stuff and forget about using its
full capabilities. I'm not sure what I'll wind up doing. But, one
thing is for sure: if any of you have some really nifty time-saving
scripts, I may be able to learn to do things fast enough with my TX
to where I can just manually load my work tasks and appointments.
I'm willing to give it a shot (although I doubt that it will work
out as good and fast as just syncing). At 57 years old (I retire in
six months), I'm not as much into wanting to figure out scripts on
my own as I used to be. Life is too short and my brain doesn't work
as quick as it did (nor as accurately - I'd spend more time writing
and debugging scripts then they would EVER be worth to me). I have
read about 20 pages back into the messages and didn't really find
much, so I figured that shameless begging is about my only option at
this point. Otherwise, the TX will probably wind up on a shelf,
which seems like such a shame.

Quoting keenvb <bvkeen@...>:

> Hi folks,
>
> I bought a TX a few weeks ago, my first Palm in several months,
> thinking I could sync it both at work and at home like I once was
> able to do. Well, my IT people at work no longer support Palm, so I
> have to continue to use my Dell x50v to sync there (where most of my
> action items and appointments are generated). Then I sync at home
> and then I sync to the Palm. The most sensible thing for me to do is
> to just use the Palm for personal stuff and forget about using its
> full capabilities. I'm not sure what I'll wind up doing. But, one
> thing is for sure: if any of you have some really nifty time-saving
> scripts, I may be able to learn to do things fast enough with my TX
> to where I can just manually load my work tasks and appointments.
> I'm willing to give it a shot (although I doubt that it will work
> out as good and fast as just syncing). At 57 years old (I retire in
> six months), I'm not as much into wanting to figure out scripts on
> my own as I used to be. Life is too short and my brain doesn't work
> as quick as it did (nor as accurately - I'd spend more time writing
> and debugging scripts then they would EVER be worth to me). I have
> read about 20 pages back into the messages and didn't really find
> much, so I figured that shameless begging is about my only option at
> this point. Otherwise, the TX will probably wind up on a shelf,
> which seems like such a shame.
>

Well, instead of some nifty scripts (which I do have, but I doubt they
fit the tasks you want to automate), here's a peptalk and some
unsolicited advice :) .
"Life is too short and my brain doesn't work
as quick as it did (nor as accurately".... is as good a reason as I've
ever heard to start writing all the pScripts, and digging as deeply
inot the manual, as you can.  I'm over 60 (gotcha! over 64 actually...)
and I've never had so much brain-fun as now, working out my own
pScripts and helping some on this forum.  What you should *really* do,
IMHO, is make a list of the TX automations that would let you have your
work-imposed Dell data and eat your Palm cake too, and then start on
some pScripts.  Then come here, say here's what I've got, need
help/ideas, and see if we all can help.  Need to change the "poo" into
"whoopee".
                                      cheers,       John

--- keenvb <bvkeen@...> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I bought a TX a few weeks ago, my first Palm in several months,
> thinking I could sync it both at work and at home like I once was
> able to do. Well, my IT people at work no longer support Palm, so I
> have to continue to use my Dell x50v to sync there (where most of my
> action items and appointments are generated). Then I sync at home
> and then I sync to the Palm. The most sensible thing for me to do is
> to just use the Palm for personal stuff and forget about using its
> full capabilities.

<SNIP>

I am also in a situation where I am not allowed to synch my Palm at
work -- only at home. My solution has been to use my Palm exclusively
for my calender, todo's, and contacts. I lose the convenience of having
that info on my office desktop computer, but gain the ability to have
all that in my shirt pocket, along with all my memos, ebooks, family
photos, two Bibles, and the other stuff on my Palm. Then I only have to
worry about getting info into my Palm quickly. I use fitaly, a Palm
keyboard, and a number of shortcuts for that. I don't think I would try
to keep both the Dell and Palm in synch. That would confuse me.

Just my two cents....

Adam

Adam Coleman
acoleman@...
Dayton, OH

"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory
of kings. "
-- Prov 25:2

Keenvb (I am sure that is not your name, but ...)

couple of questions:
1. If you are using a Dell handheld, why did you buy a Palm?  I am a
Palm fanatic myself, but I am still curious -- especially if there are
some significant drawbacks to the Dell.  Always interested in hearing
good reasons to stick with Palm even though I have no intention of
changing :)

2. What do you use for Mail/Calendar at work?  I am sure I can't help,
but just in case... I no longer sync the normal way at work either.  I
stick with home for syncing in general.  However, if perchance your
work PIM is Lotus Notes, I have pieced together a way to push calendar
entries from my laptop to my palm as I save them on my desktop.  If
your work computer has Infra-red, and if you use Lotus Notes ... then
I might be able to help.  Those are a couple of big IFs, though.

Interesting thing for me... I have been a Palm user since '98, and for
most of that time I *was* syncing at work.  But I use my Palm now more
than I ever did when I synced at work.

- Jim

Hi Paul,
How is the TX?
I just got one, as I broke the digitizer on the T5. It was as cheap to pick up
the TX and less hassle than a repair.

Just wondered if you use the pToolSet hard button option on the Home button, and
if so how you did it!
pToolSet seems to work much better on the TX with UWK. I have now got used to
the built-in 'rotator' that Palm have given us, and most every-day typing seems
faster and easier now. I still hankerfor the days of the T3 and the old
keyboard, but theyare far behind now.

My opinion of the TX is that it is a better All round PDA than the T5, although
they need to do something about the lengthy launch time if Blazer which I now
use all the time.

Don't think I will ever need a laptop!

It is good to read all the lively disscussion here recently.
Cheers for now
Andy

--- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, Adam Coleman <acoleman@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- keenvb <bvkeen@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I bought a TX a few weeks ago, my first Palm in several months,
> > thinking I could sync it both at work and at home like I once
was
> > able to do. Well, my IT people at work no longer support Palm,
so I
> > have to continue to use my Dell x50v to sync there (where most
of my
> > action items and appointments are generated). Then I sync at
home
> > and then I sync to the Palm. The most sensible thing for me to
do is
> > to just use the Palm for personal stuff and forget about using
its
> > full capabilities.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> I am also in a situation where I am not allowed to synch my Palm at
> work -- only at home. My solution has been to use my Palm
exclusively
> for my calender, todo's, and contacts. I lose the convenience of
having
> that info on my office desktop computer, but gain the ability to
have
> all that in my shirt pocket, along with all my memos, ebooks,
family
> photos, two Bibles, and the other stuff on my Palm. Then I only
have to
> worry about getting info into my Palm quickly. I use fitaly, a Palm
> keyboard, and a number of shortcuts for that. I don't think I
would try
> to keep both the Dell and Palm in synch. That would confuse me.
>
> Just my two cents....
>
> Adam
>
> Adam Coleman
> acoleman@...
> Dayton, OH
>
> "It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a
matter is the glory of kings. "
> -- Prov 25:2
>
Adam, thank you. As I noted in my reply to John, I'll see if I can
make a go of it. I'll work on some automations this weekend and
maybe use only the TX next week and see how it goes.

--- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, "JimBoling" <jimboling@...> wrote:
>
> Keenvb (I am sure that is not your name, but ...)
>
> couple of questions:
> 1. If you are using a Dell handheld, why did you buy a Palm?  I am
a
> Palm fanatic myself, but I am still curious -- especially if there
are
> some significant drawbacks to the Dell.  Always interested in
hearing
> good reasons to stick with Palm even though I have no intention of
> changing :)
>
> 2. What do you use for Mail/Calendar at work?  I am sure I can't
help,
> but just in case... I no longer sync the normal way at work
either.  I
> stick with home for syncing in general.  However, if perchance your
> work PIM is Lotus Notes, I have pieced together a way to push
calendar
> entries from my laptop to my palm as I save them on my desktop.  If
> your work computer has Infra-red, and if you use Lotus Notes ...
then
> I might be able to help.  Those are a couple of big IFs, though.
>
> Interesting thing for me... I have been a Palm user since '98, and
for
> most of that time I *was* syncing at work.  But I use my Palm now
more
> than I ever did when I synced at work.
>
> - Jim
>

Thanks Jim. We use Outlook at work, so your Lotus Notes workaround
wouldn't help. I sure do appreciate the offer of help, though.

The Dell doesn't really have any Major drawbacks that would drive me
toward Palm, again, but its memory management bites (just like with
Windows - let it operate for a while and you wonder where all the
memory has gone). Its battery life is not that great either.
Actually, to me there is no contest between Palm and Pocket PCs as
both platforms can do pretty much whatever you want to do, and it's
often a matter of personal taste and what is slightly better in
one's personal situation. I like the interface of the Palm the most
because that's what "I grew up with." Its PIM is outstanding (and
DateBk 6 is adding improvements to that). But the Pocket PC has some
advantages, too. For me, I just got to missing the Palm interface a
bit and thought that the TX was very reasonably priced. I'd be using
the dickens out of it if I could sync to my work computer.

--- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, John Markley <jmmjr@...> wrote:
>
> Quoting keenvb <bvkeen@...>:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I bought a TX a few weeks ago, my first Palm in several months,
> > thinking I could sync it both at work and at home like I once was
> > able to do. Well, my IT people at work no longer support Palm,
so I
> > have to continue to use my Dell x50v to sync there (where most
of my
> > action items and appointments are generated). Then I sync at home
> > and then I sync to the Palm. The most sensible thing for me to
do is
> > to just use the Palm for personal stuff and forget about using
its
> > full capabilities. I'm not sure what I'll wind up doing. But, one
> > thing is for sure: if any of you have some really nifty time-
saving
> > scripts, I may be able to learn to do things fast enough with my
TX
> > to where I can just manually load my work tasks and appointments.
> > I'm willing to give it a shot (although I doubt that it will work
> > out as good and fast as just syncing). At 57 years old (I retire
in
> > six months), I'm not as much into wanting to figure out scripts
on
> > my own as I used to be. Life is too short and my brain doesn't
work
> > as quick as it did (nor as accurately - I'd spend more time
writing
> > and debugging scripts then they would EVER be worth to me). I
have
> > read about 20 pages back into the messages and didn't really find
> > much, so I figured that shameless begging is about my only
option at
> > this point. Otherwise, the TX will probably wind up on a shelf,
> > which seems like such a shame.
> >
>
> Well, instead of some nifty scripts (which I do have, but I doubt
they
> fit the tasks you want to automate), here's a peptalk and some
> unsolicited advice :) .
> "Life is too short and my brain doesn't work
> as quick as it did (nor as accurately".... is as good a reason as
I've
> ever heard to start writing all the pScripts, and digging as
deeply
> inot the manual, as you can.  I'm over 60 (gotcha! over 64
actually...)
> and I've never had so much brain-fun as now, working out my own
> pScripts and helping some on this forum.  What you should *really*
do,
> IMHO, is make a list of the TX automations that would let you have
your
> work-imposed Dell data and eat your Palm cake too, and then start
on
> some pScripts.  Then come here, say here's what I've got, need
> help/ideas, and see if we all can help.  Need to change the "poo"
into
> "whoopee".
>                                      cheers,       John
>

John,
Good pep talk. Thank you. I'll work on a list of automations and go
from there. I really do like the simplicity and speed of Palm and
would like to make a go of it.

Quoting keenvb <bvkeen@...>:

> John,
> Good pep talk. Thank you. I'll work on a list of automations and go
> from there. I really do like the simplicity and speed of Palm and
> would like to make a go of it.

    Great.  Standing by....

> Thanks Jim. We use Outlook at work, so your Lotus Notes workaround
> wouldn't help. I sure do appreciate the offer of help, though.
>
<SNIP>
Its PIM is outstanding (and
> DateBk 6 is adding improvements to that).

    The part of your endeavor that involves cross-systems syncing is a
bit out of my experience....I'm a purely Mac guy.  Except, my entire
office uses Windows/pc.  My secretary does my schedule in Outlook and I
sync my TX to it via Chapura PocketMirror.  I suspect you've looked
into this and there must be something that prevents doing so.  Since
you also use DateBK6, take a look at the pimlicodatebk yahoo forum
archives if you've not done so, as over time there's been a lot of
discussion regarding Palm/Outlook synchronization there.
     ~ John

Quoting John Markley <jmmjr@...>:

   Since
> you also use DateBK6, take a look at the pimlicodatebk yahoo forum
> archives if you've not done so, as over time there's been a lot of
> discussion regarding Palm/Outlook synchronization there.


Addendum:  Just after posting the above I see that a post has just come
through on the pimlicodatebk forum addressing Outlook syncing...

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pimlicodatebk/message/64365

     ~ John

> My opinion of the TX is that it is a better All round PDA than the
> T5, although they need to do something about the lengthy launch
> time if Blazer which I now use all the time.

I don't have a TX or know much about them, but you might want to take a
look at UnCache over at palmpowerups.com, which helps prevent
fragmenting of the DBCache (which could be a reason why Blazer takes so
long to fire up - the OS is busy unloading thing from DBCache to get a
continuous spot of RAM (DBCache) big enough).

Standard backup precautions apply since it is a low level hack-like
thing I believe, and I don't know how pToolSet will handle it (although
I'm certain that it will need to be "active"). I haven't used it, so I
don't have any firsthand experience, but the description seems to make
sense. Don't blame me if the TX bursts into flames or runs away.

Just a basic observation/commentary (I've used a T5 a lot in the past
year, although it is now collecting dust as I went back to the T3)
about the current PalmOne offerings. They really need to include more
real RAM in the devices. The DBCache size appears to always be too
small, and the heap/stack sizes I believe are a lot less than previous
models (like the T3). The theory behind NVFS is nice, but the
implementation stinks, and the skimpy real RAM only emphasizes that.

-Josh

>    The part of your endeavor that involves cross-systems syncing is a
> bit out of my experience....I'm a purely Mac guy.  Except, my entire
> office uses Windows/pc.  My secretary does my schedule in Outlook and
I
> sync my TX to it via Chapura PocketMirror.  I suspect you've looked
> into this and there must be something that prevents doing so.  Since
> you also use DateBK6, take a look at the pimlicodatebk yahoo forum
> archives if you've not done so, as over time there's been a lot of
> discussion regarding Palm/Outlook synchronization there.


Since you aren't allowed to install PocketMirror or the Palm Outlook
conduits at work (I think I recall that in your first message), you
could in theory install Outlook on a home system for syncing to your
Axim (which syncs at work), and then sync your Palm with that. However,
I don't really recommend it, especially if you use features like tasks
with alarms, repeating tasks, events that span midnight, meetings with
attendees, or anything else beyond a simple calendar type entry. First,
DateBk handles tasks much differently than the native app does (at
least right now - we'll see if/when CESD implements direct native tasks
db access in newer Palm devices if that changes because of the new
features in the newer Palm proprietary db's), and that leads to
duplicates, missed alarms on at least one of the devices, etc. Also,
and this is probably the biggest reason, syncing a PPC with more than
one machine is begging for trouble. I ALWAYS ended up with duplicates,
missing events, etc. when I synced at work and at home. ActiveSync, to
put it bluntly, sucks big time.

So if you can't install PM or the native Palm Outlook conduits, then
I'd recommend against doing the Exchange to Axim to standalone Outlook
to Palm route. It's actually bad enough syncing everything to the
original source (because of the differences between Palm/DateBk and
Outlook/PocketPC database structures).

Sorry to rain on your parade.

-Josh

--- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Morris" <joshsm@...> wrote:
>
> >    The part of your endeavor that involves cross-systems syncing
is a
> > bit out of my experience....I'm a purely Mac guy.  Except, my
entire
> > office uses Windows/pc.  My secretary does my schedule in
Outlook and
> I
> > sync my TX to it via Chapura PocketMirror.  I suspect you've
looked
> > into this and there must be something that prevents doing so.
Since
> > you also use DateBK6, take a look at the pimlicodatebk yahoo
forum
> > archives if you've not done so, as over time there's been a lot
of
> > discussion regarding Palm/Outlook synchronization there.
>
>
> Since you aren't allowed to install PocketMirror or the Palm
Outlook
> conduits at work (I think I recall that in your first message),
you
> could in theory install Outlook on a home system for syncing to
your
> Axim (which syncs at work), and then sync your Palm with that.
However,
> I don't really recommend it, especially if you use features like
tasks
> with alarms, repeating tasks, events that span midnight, meetings
with
> attendees, or anything else beyond a simple calendar type entry.
First,
> DateBk handles tasks much differently than the native app does (at
> least right now - we'll see if/when CESD implements direct native
tasks
> db access in newer Palm devices if that changes because of the new
> features in the newer Palm proprietary db's), and that leads to
> duplicates, missed alarms on at least one of the devices, etc.
Also,
> and this is probably the biggest reason, syncing a PPC with more
than
> one machine is begging for trouble. I ALWAYS ended up with
duplicates,
> missing events, etc. when I synced at work and at home.
ActiveSync, to
> put it bluntly, sucks big time.
>
> So if you can't install PM or the native Palm Outlook conduits,
then
> I'd recommend against doing the Exchange to Axim to standalone
Outlook
> to Palm route. It's actually bad enough syncing everything to the
> original source (because of the differences between Palm/DateBk
and
> Outlook/PocketPC database structures).
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade.
>
> -Josh
>

Thanks Josh. I have been syncing the Dell with Outlook at work,
syncing that at home with Outlook, then syncing to the Palm with its
Outlook conduits. I had noticed some duplicates and didn't realize
that it could be due to DateBk (I am not so hard-core on using
DateBk that I can't do without it, as I do like the native PIMs well
enough). I had thought that CESD had starting using the Task
database instead of the old ToDo one (I thought this had occurred in
one of the latter versions of DateBk5), so I'm disappointed to hear
that they still use the old database. But, all of that is kinda
superfluous to my situation of trying to figure whether to just
bypass syncing at work all together and enter all my work-related
appointments and tasks manually. I am going to spend time this
weekend, as John suggested, looking at what sort of scripted
automations would make manual entry more acceptable to me. Then I'll
go from there.

Thanks.

> Outlook conduits. I had noticed some duplicates and didn't realize
> that it could be due to DateBk (I am not so hard-core on using
> DateBk that I can't do without it, as I do like the native PIMs
well
> enough). I had thought that CESD had starting using the Task
> database instead of the old ToDo one (I thought this had occurred
in
> one of the latter versions of DateBk5), so I'm disappointed to hear
> that they still use the old database.

The tasks/todo was the one he didn't update. The problem stems from
the PalmOS model requiring certain things to be within the first 64kb
of the program, and that part of the program has been pretty much
full for quite some time. Last I heard he was attempting to find a
way to shoehorn direct Tasks support into it, but it isn't there yet,
as far as I know. Now, even if he does provide for direct access,
that's not to say that he will support every aspect of the new
database structure (such as alarms, repeats, etc.). He may continue
to just use the notes field as on all other PalmOS devices to set
those things (and therefore you may be no better off than when using
the DM kludge). He did that for some items in the Calendar db, too.
(eg. Events spanning midnight)

You can always visit the pimlicosoftware group if you have further
questions about anything. We try to be a helpful bunch over there as
well.

And the duplicates may not necessarily be a result of DateBk. It
could just be ActiveStink doing its thing. (For example, even when I
stopped using my T3/5 (perish the thought) and solely used my iPAQ, I
still ended up with duplicates, missing things, etc., if I sync'd at
work _and_ at home. It just randomly happenend. I never even opened
appointments and things at home which might "trigger" a duplicate.)

(I never use PocketMirror or Palm Outlook conduits at home, either. I
only use Outlook at work because I am painted into that corner by
apps I'm supposed to know. It's Palm Desktop only at home for
syncing.)

Good luck with the scripting and automation thing this weekend.

-Josh

--- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Morris" <joshsm@...> wrote:
>


> (I never use PocketMirror or Palm Outlook conduits at home,
either. I
> only use Outlook at work because I am painted into that corner by
> apps I'm supposed to know. It's Palm Desktop only at home for
> syncing.)
>
> Good luck with the scripting and automation thing this weekend.
>
> -Josh
>

In time, I may go to just the Palm Desktop as Outlook really does
suck. When I retire later this year, I plan to rebuild my laptop
(format hard disk and reload OS) and I'll probably leave MS Office
2003 out of the picture completely (and use Palm Desktop and
OpenOffice). That is, unless I do it before then.

Thanks for the good insights.

#
# I don't have a TX or know much about them, but you might want to take a
# look at UnCache over at palmpowerups.com, which helps prevent
# fragmenting of the DBCache (which could be a reason why Blazer takes so
# long to fire up - the OS is busy unloading thing from DBCache to get a
# continuous spot of RAM (DBCache) big enough).
#
# Standard backup precautions apply since it is a low level hack-like
# thing I believe, and I don't know how pToolSet will handle it (although
# I'm certain that it will need to be "active"). I haven't used it, so I
# don't have any firsthand experience, but the description seems to make
# sense. Don't blame me if the TX bursts into flames or runs away.

Yeah, I'd like someone else to try DBCache with pToolSet and to live to tell
the story.

I HATE [hate hate hate hate hate] the long wait for both Blazer and VersaMail
on my TX.

I like the TX more and more, except, see above.

All=my=best, Paul

Quoting Paul Nevai <nevai@...>:

> #
> # I don't have a TX or know much about them, but you might want to
> take a
> # look at UnCache over at palmpowerups.com, which helps prevent
> # fragmenting of the DBCache (which could be a reason why Blazer
> takes so
> # long to fire up - the OS is busy unloading thing from DBCache to
> get a
> # continuous spot of RAM (DBCache) big enough).
> #
> # Standard backup precautions apply since it is a low level hack-like
>
> # thing I believe, and I don't know how pToolSet will handle it
> (although
> # I'm certain that it will need to be "active"). I haven't used it,
> so I
> # don't have any firsthand experience, but the description seems to
> make
> # sense. Don't blame me if the TX bursts into flames or runs away.
>
> Yeah, I'd like someone else to try DBCache with pToolSet and to live
> to tell
> the story.

Yeah, me too, not gonna be me.  There's a TX yahoo group.  I'll post a
discreet inquiry there....
     ~ John

--- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, John Markley <jmmjr@...> wrote:
>
> Quoting Paul Nevai <nevai@...>:
>
> > #
> > # I don't have a TX or know much about them, but you might want to
> > take a
> > # look at UnCache over at palmpowerups.com, which helps prevent
> > # fragmenting of the DBCache (which could be a reason why Blazer
> > takes so
> > # long to fire up - the OS is busy unloading thing from DBCache to
> > get a
> > # continuous spot of RAM (DBCache) big enough).
> > #
> > # Standard backup precautions apply since it is a low level hack-like
> >
> > # thing I believe, and I don't know how pToolSet will handle it
> > (although
> > # I'm certain that it will need to be "active"). I haven't used it,
> > so I
> > # don't have any firsthand experience, but the description seems to
> > make
> > # sense. Don't blame me if the TX bursts into flames or runs away.
> >
> > Yeah, I'd like someone else to try DBCache with pToolSet and to live
> > to tell
> > the story.
>

  <polite cough.> err, I hope you were not thinking that I should be a
guinea pig. Lol.
  I can live with these shortcomings, but maybe just maybe,...there
will be a Palm update released to fix these issues. (Does the
expression  'pie in the sky, mean anything to me??)

AndyM

Hi I am a pseudopeditor.  I have downloaded, but not yet registered.
Also, I pronounce it "PED IT" instead of "PEE EDIT" which makes me a
newbie.

My goal is to make macros that can do things in DateBk6 and other
applications (Bonsai?), such as, if I write a macro trigger in the
appointment slot in Bk it will insert a predefined template, or some
such thing.  Even better would be to put the trigger into the
appointment in Outlook, then after syncing, p- would see the trigger
(macro name) and do it's thing.   I've experimented with ShortCuts5,
which is pretty neat but too limited.  Someone on the Bk forum
suggested pScripting.   I have been reading the weighty manuals, but
thought I'd also utilize this group's knowledge—especially since my
trial periods may well expire before I finish the manuals!  I don't do
a lot of writing on my T5, and have maybe 8 or 10 memos which are all
really short, so I'm not sure if I'd be able to do justice to pedit's
text editing features. –Though I must say it has some pretty slick
features that I would never have even thought of (and would love to
see in MS Word)!!  I understand that you can also do pScripting in
pToolSet without pedit, is that right?  The second question is whether
I need to be a rocket scientist to write pScript macros.  I'm "kindof
good" with computers—I guess.  I can usually get Windows to behave as
I want, but I tried to teach myself UNIX and Linux once and found it
to be over my head.

Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks.  -steve

Steve- You'll need an answer from Paul for some of what you're
asking--may not be possible, but I'll try to answer some, in-line, and
no doubt others will respond too-

Quoting Steve <kunkel321@...>:

> Hi I am a pseudopeditor.  I have downloaded, but not yet registered.
> Also, I pronounce it "PED IT" instead of "PEE EDIT" which makes me a
> newbie.
      Now you know. Don't ever do it again. <g>
>
> My goal is to make macros that can do things in DateBk6 and other
> applications (Bonsai?), such as, if I write a macro trigger in the
> appointment slot in Bk it will insert a predefined template, or some
> such thing.
     You can do such things with pScripts.  At the end of the manual
section on pScripting is a section on macros.  I've only done pScripts,
haven't delved into the macro part as yet.

Even better would be to put the trigger into the
> appointment in Outlook, then after syncing, p- would see the trigger
> (macro name) and do it's thing.
     I doubt you can do this.  Anybody ever done this?  Anybody know?

I've experimented with ShortCuts5,
> which is pretty neat but too limited.  Someone on the Bk forum
> suggested pScripting.   I have been reading the weighty manuals, but
> thought I'd also utilize this group's knowledge—especially since my
> trial periods may well expire before I finish the manuals!  I don't
> do
> a lot of writing on my T5, and have maybe 8 or 10 memos which are all
> really short, so I'm not sure if I'd be able to do justice to pedit's
> text editing features. –Though I must say it has some pretty slick
> features that I would never have even thought of (and would love to
> see in MS Word)!!

I understand that you can also do pScripting in
> pToolSet without pedit, is that right?
      Yes.

The second question is
> whether
> I need to be a rocket scientist to write pScript macros.
     No.  Just reasonably intelligent, highly inquisitve, moderately
risk-taking, doggedly persistant, and incredibly handsome.

regards,      ~ John

> The second question is
> > whether
> > I need to be a rocket scientist to write pScript macros.
>     No.  Just reasonably intelligent, highly inquisitve, moderately
> risk-taking, doggedly persistant, and incredibly handsome.
>
> regards,      ~ John
>
=====
Well I've got that much covered!!!   ;-)
Thanks for the reply John.   -steve

# Hi I am a pseudopeditor.  I have downloaded, but not yet registered.
# Also, I pronounce it "PED IT" instead of "PEE EDIT" which makes me a
# newbie.

I also call it "ped-it" [but "pee-toolset"].

# My goal is to make macros that can do things in DateBk6 and other
# pToolSet without pedit, is that right?

Actually, you must have pToolSet and pedit is optional. pToolSet runs the
scripts outside pedit.

Making macros is very easy if you start with simple ones and if you
understand that the Palm OS is event-driven, in a certain Palm fashion.

E.g., typing "a", tapping "OK", and typing again "b" via a script comes out
as "OK" "ab", which means that you must learn "chaining" scripts. Otherwise
the order gets messed up.

/Paul

Steve- brief addendum to my reply:

Quoting John Markley <jmmjr@...>:

>>
>> My goal is to make macros that can do things in DateBk6 and other
>> applications (Bonsai?), such as, if I write a macro trigger in the
>> appointment slot in Bk it will insert a predefined template, or
> some
>> such thing.
>    You can do such things with pScripts.  At the end of the manual
> section on pScripting is a section on macros.  I've only done
> pScripts,
> haven't delved into the macro part as yet.


    Need to be careful with terminology here.  I *think* when you said
"My goal is to make macros that can....", you were using the term macro
in the general sense of a little computer code thingie that does a
limited number of linked actions to perform a discrete task.  That's
what a pScript is.  When I used the word "macro" in my reply I was
imprecise.... the section I referred to is on "pMacros", which are a
part of Paul's pScripting language I've not yet used, much less
mastered--am still trying to figure out how/why to do so, though I
think I have a glimmering.  The manual definition is  "A pMacro is a
collection of characters of the form "\n#pmxy" and "tabs or spaces" and
"BEGIN[X]NIGEB\n" [here "\n" denotes a linefeed (carriage return)]."  I
think an example of a use would be to initiate a run of multiple
iterations of a pScript. At any rate, I think you can do the kinds of
things you want with pScripts sans pMacros. There are or have been many
peditors way far more knowledgeable and adept at pScripting than I
posting here, but not so much recently.  Hope some of them will come
back in.....
     ~ John

Greetings All,

Is is possible to choose which application to jump to from pToDoTool's
Actions/Go To Last Item EZ menu item?  For example, directly to DB6 or
Cando instead of the native palm todo application?

Thanks,
Dwight...

--- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, John Markley <jmmjr@...> wrote:
>
>     OK, Marcus, success.  It really can be done.  Found the flaw and
> fixed it, so it's worth your time and effort to perservere.  One
> pScript that will find and open an existing memo and stop, or will
make
> a new memo with the correct title if none existed before.
>
>                                                   ~ John
>

Okay, assuming that you guys have both solved the puzzle, please share
the script.

Thanks,
Dwight...

--- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, John Markley <jmmjr@...> wrote:
>
> Dwight-
> If the pToolSet module "pGraffitiTool" will operate on a Treo that
> might let you use a stroke to activate Pop!  It may not be able to
> fundtion on the Treo, I don't know - perhaps Paul or some handy
Treo owner knows...
>
> However, did you see my post to you,
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peditors/message/26868        ?

I have been using scripts to open Pop! via double taps, but I keep
having to add new scripts to tap different areas of the screen for
different applications, e.g. MemoLeaf's lookup, pFindtool,
pSearchTool, etc...  I have been trying to get pGraffitiTool to work
on my Treo 650, but am about convinced that it won't.

Before I give up, has anyone has any experience with pGraffitiTool
on a Treo 650?  Specifically, how can I replicate a "applications"
to "Menu" softscreen swipe?

Thanks,
Dwight...

Quoting Paul Nevai <nevai@...>:

> Yeah, I'd like someone else to try DBCache with pToolSet and to live
> to tell
> the story.

        Well, here's an answer to my inquiry at the TX forum--

Hi John,

I purchased it:

1) Suport is lousy. (I do not even want to show you what was the
attitude  they answered me...)
2) After 5 days use, my TX has made a very very odd
situation,,,,,,reset  all the icons, setting.....All silk screen icon
reset to  original....everthings are mess. I can only use tealbackup to
revert  everything.

regards edmond.

> Message: 10
>    Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:13:48 -0000
>    From: "John Markley" <jmmjr@...>
> Subject: UnCache
> Here's a snip from a post on the peditors Yahoo group.  Has anyone
> used  UnCache and if so
> what happened?
>

     ~ John

But here's another, completely diametric response!

> Here's a snip from a post on the peditors Yahoo group.  Has anyone
used UnCache and if so
> what happened?

I installed it on my TX and have been very happy. Dmitry, the author,
seems very responsive and has replied to every issue I had. The issues
were essentially my issues, not the apps issues. I really seems to do
what it purports to do. It is important that you carefully select the
apps you put in UnCache. Any app with alarms, any hack and basically,
any app that changes stuff system wide.
I don't understand the problems dobrohk is having. Maybe he should try
a fresh approach. I really like the application.
alan



Quoting John Markley <jmmjr@...>:

> Quoting Paul Nevai <nevai@...>:
>
>> Yeah, I'd like someone else to try DBCache with pToolSet and to
> live
>> to tell
>> the story.
>
>       Well, here's an answer to my inquiry at the TX forum--
>
> Hi John,
>
> I purchased it:
>
> 1) Suport is lousy. (I do not even want to show you what was the
> attitude  they answered me...)
> 2) After 5 days use, my TX has made a very very odd
> situation,,,,,,reset  all the icons, setting.....All silk screen icon
>
> reset to  original....everthings are mess. I can only use tealbackup
> to
> revert  everything.
>
> regards edmond.
>
>> Message: 10
>>    Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:13:48 -0000
>>    From: "John Markley" <jmmjr@...>
>> Subject: UnCache
>> Here's a snip from a post on the peditors Yahoo group.  Has anyone
>> used  UnCache and if so
>> what happened?
>>
>
>    ~ John
>
> Latest pedit/pToolSet/LapTopHack at
> http://www.osuweb.net/~pc/pca/pc_all.zip[1]
> pedit/pToolSet/LapTopHack scripting info/resources at
> http://www.peditors.com[2]
> Peditors Forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peditors[3]
> Unsubscribe by writing to peditors-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> -------------------------
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>  *  Visit your group "peditors[4]" on the web.
>
>  *  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> peditors-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com[5]
>
>  *  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service[6].
>
> -------------------------
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://www.osuweb.net/~pc/pca/pc_all.zip
> [2] http://www.peditors.com
> [3] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peditors
> [4] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peditors
> [5] mailto:peditors-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe
> [6] http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

Quoting carrdwight <carrdwight@...>:

> --- In peditors@yahoogroups.com, John Markley <jmmjr@...> wrote:
>>
>>     OK, Marcus, success.  It really can be done.  Found the flaw
> and
>> fixed it, so it's worth your time and effort to perservere.  One
>> pScript that will find and open an existing memo and stop, or will
> make
>> a new memo with the correct title if none existed before.
>>
>>                                                   ~ John
>>
>
> Okay, assuming that you guys have both solved the puzzle, please
> share
> the script.
>
> Thanks,
> Dwight...

Happy to do so, but only after Marcus says ok, 'cause I don't want to
spoil his fun if he's still working on it....
     ~ John

Quoting Alan <aashrink@...>:

> --- In Palm_TX@yahoogroups.com, "John Markley" <jmmjr@...> wrote:
>>
>> Here's a snip from a post on the peditors Yahoo group.  Has anyone
> used UnCache and if so
>> what happened?
>
> I installed it on my TX and have been very happy. Dmitry, the author,
> seems very responsive and has replied to every issue I had. The
> issues
> were essentially my issues, not the apps issues. I really seems to do
> what it purports to do. It is important that you carefully select the
> apps you put in UnCache. Any app with alarms, any hack and basically,
> any app that changes stuff system wide.
> I don't understand the problems dobrohk is having. Maybe he should
> try
> a fresh approach. I really like the application.
> alan

Very interesting.  Completely different experience from that reportedby
Edmond.
Have you found that using UnCache decreases the long DBcache clearing
delay when starting Blazer?
     ~ John