Hi,

I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures.  I have photo
elements 10.

Thanks,

Ann

Sent from my iPad

 

One other suggestion I would make. You said you have external hard drives. It is really cheap now to get a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device or case for a hard drive. Think of an external hard drive that connects to your network instead of to your USB port. In your case both you and your wife can easily connect to the same file space. You then set up a folder system on the NAS and export your photos to that space. Then you don't have to sneaker net the photos to her computer. The NAS devices are not much more than regular external hard drives, and you can get just a NAS case and then move your hard drive from the existing external case to the NAS case too. 

John mentioned the FastStone Image Viewer software. That is nice. You might also want to look into Google Picasa. It is quite nice too. I am thinking after their acquisition of Picnik that they will be putting in some cool editing features in the near future. You can tell Picasa to moni tor different folders for new images too. So that way when you put new images on the NAS then the next time your wife opens Picasa she will automatically see them in there. Of course Picasa is free too. 

Rusty

therustycook@...

Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!

And visit  http://www.onewiththecamera.com/ 

On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:58 AM, johnpford@... wrote:

 

Jack,

Now that I know you want to make it easy for your wife, I have a suggestion. If you don't have it, download the incredible freebie, FastStone Image Viewer:

http://www.faststone.org/ 

You can export web sized JPGs from Lightroom 4 to folders on your PC, copy them to her PC and let her enjoy them, share them with family/friends, make great slide shows she can share with folks via another freebie, DropBox:

https://www.dropbox.com/

She'll be a happy camper when she has such easy access to so much fun stuff.

John Ford

http://www.pbase.com/sfzjohn/root&view=recent

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From: "Jack Scanlon" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 

Rusty or others from the group,

 

What would be your procedure from camera to sharing do you go through if you use Lightroom if you were in my situation?  I have my pc loaded with Lightroom 4, Photoshop CS5.1,  Premiere Elements 10 on a Windows 7 based operating system and my wife has her own pc without any editing software(except basic Windows Vista software that came with the computer). For the most part, I would just like to take the images from the camera do a quick edit to sharpen, brighten, enhance and maybe a quick cover up of skin tone. Then transfer the images to an external drive so that I can transfer them or copy to my wife's computer so she can do what she does. When I have free time, I'll open PS CS5 and fool around a little more or to Elements to make a project, but 90% of the time it would be the quick edit and share.

 

I realize I'll have to change my file cataloging system to adhere to the "Lightroom Way" but once I develop a new system, it'll be more efficient. Thanks for everyone's comments...always looking to learn and it looks like I have my work cut out for me! This whole photography hobby has been a great adventure so far and I'm so pleased at what I've accomplished so far by taking a lot of the tips I've learned from the group to date.

 

Thanks,

Jack

Jack Scanlon
jackscanlon01@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
To: photography_beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 

Jack, what I would recommend is that you create a separate file structure to save your exported files into. You would keep the originals in the original folders. Then tell your wife to look in the other folders for the final photos. You will find that the exported files do not end up in the Lightroom catalog unless you reimport them. 

Rusty

therustycook@...

Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!

And visit  http://www.onewiththecamera.com/ 

On Jun 10, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Jack Scanlon wrote:

 

Hi John,

 

I'm pretty sure I know what you mean about the catalogs in Lightroom and keeping them on different drives and I'll have to start using that method.

 

Before any of the Photoshop software, I would just use the editing in  Windows and the changes would be saved in the same folder on my desktop(or wherever I have the folder located). My wife would then have access to the images so she could share them via email, facebook, etc. She isn't capable of going into Lightroom's catalogs to retrieve the images nor would she ever want to learn...I have to keep it simple. I also don't want her on my computer messing things up...lol. Oftentimes, I would come home after an outing and she is anxious to share the photos so I would do a quick edit and she's happy. Now, even though the editing in the Lightroom of PSCS5 is so much more powerfull and effective, she has to wait until I do my thing, export the edited image, then delete the original image or make a new folder, copy it to a external drive and move it to her computer so she can have access. It just complicates things a little...but I guess you can't rush quality. In Photoshop CS5, you can open an image, edit it then save your changes without making another copy...that is what I would want Lightroom to do. I'll look at the link and see where that leads me.

 

Thank you...nobody ever told me photography editing would be easy...lol!

Jack

Jack Scanlon
jackscanlon01@...

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From: johnpford <johnpford@...>
To: photography beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 

Jack,

You can move your catalogs and files to another disc. I have all my files on three external hard drives and all my catalog data on one of the externals. The only part of Lightroom on my PC's C drive is the program.

A big advantage to this is I have Lightroom on my desktop PC and on my laptop. If I want to work on the laptop when I'm away from home, all I have to do is carry the external drive(s) with me and I'm up and rolling. It would be hard to go into all of the options for image/catalog management in an email like this.

My suggestion is open Lightroom, go to the help menu and click on Lightroom Help:

There is plenty of info there including, Managing catalogs and files

The way you are man aging your files and edits does not take advantage of the great organizational attributes of Lightroom 4. You are re-inventing the wheel   :o))

It is important to do all your image/folder management in Lightroom and and not in Windows. As long as you do it within Lightroom, Lightroom will keep track of every thing you do. If you do it in Windows, Lightroom will not remember what you have done.

I can't tell if you have set up external editors in Lightroom preferences. If you have, you have some great possibilities. Whenever I want to leave Lightroom, I edit in Photoshop or whatever. The key thing is when you've finished with your external edit you use the Save command and not the Save As command. Do not change the file name in any way. When you use the Save command, go bac k to Lightroom and you will see your edited file back in Lighroom. This is huge, you can use Lightroom's great cataloging/organizational features to keep your work organized. Lightroom has great database features that many folks do not take advantage of. I've been using Lightroom since Lightroom 1 and I'm still finding new aspects that I haven't yet realized.

Here's a good help text that should cover all the bases:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/860082-REG/Pearson_Education_9780321819581_Book_Adobe_Photoshop_Lightroom.html 

Hope this helps,

John Ford

http://www.pbase.com/sfzjohn/root&view=recent 

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From: "jackscanlon01" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:21:00 AM
Subject: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 

Hi Group,

I am having a little trouble working with Lightroom 4. I like the way it opens automatically when I insert my memory disc into the computer, catalogs and renames the images, and I like the options for editing the images while I have them open. My problem is that I don't seem to be able to save the changes to the same folder that I have the images stored on my desktop. It seems to save it internally within the software, but I would like to be able to just save the changes to the folder on my desktop. I see that you can export the changes, but it creates another file within that folder. Lately what I do is, after I catalog and rename the images, I close out of Lightroom and open my Photoshop CS5 and then pull the image in, edit it and save it like you would with any other windows type file. I know that if I want to retain the original image, I will save it as another image name. Maybe I'm overlooking a step, but if anyone could help, I'd apprecaite it.

Thanks,
Jack
jackscanlon01@...

 

Hi,

I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures. I have photo elements 10.

Thanks,

Ann

Sent from my iPad

I understood this question to mean, apply a watermark of name and info.  If
I misunderstood, then....There are free EXIF editors, and most reasonable
photo managing programs can do it too.

Check this out:
http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/03/26/adding-copyright-to-exif-automatically\
/

Kevin
www.flickr.com/kevinkemmerer/




> For photo info what type of info are you talking about? The EXIF info
> on how the photo was shot is there automatically. That is added by
> the camera. If you are talking other tags, like Christmas or reunion,
> well those are keyword tags. In the organizer look to the right and
> you should see a panel for keywords. Just drag any of the keywords
> you want and drop them right on the photo. You can put multiple
> keywords on a single photo. You can create new keywords too.
>
> For your name, I am not sure if PSE has a way to update the EXIF with
> your copyright info. I know I can do it in Aperture when I load the
> photos from the camera to the computer. Guess I will have to go in
> the organizer and look again. I don't use Organizer now that I have
> Aperture. I just use the PSE editor. But I bet there is a way to do
> it.
>
> Rusty
> therustycook@...
> Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!
>
> And visit http://www.onewiththecamera.com/
>
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Ann Follett wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures. I
>> have photo elements 10.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> Sent from my iPad



www.flickr.com/kevinkemmerer/

> Rusty,
> I like the idea of the NAS. I was always thinking of a server that
> could be accessed by all the computers in my house...kids
> included...but that sounds like it would be cheaper and easier to set
> up.


NAS appliances are nice.  They are low power, easy to set up [usually] and
generally do a good job.  Some will even allow you to set up access from
outside your home network, though your firewall [You DO have a firewall,
correct?].

But sometimes free is better than cheap.  I prefer to use old computers as
NAS devices.  I've been running a linux server for years.  It was faster
than setting up a typical windows isntallation, and easy.  It has no GUI at
all.  Command line only, but once it is installed it is administered through
a web page, just as most NAS appliances are.

The OS is free, and if you have old hardware laying around, then the
hardware is free too.  You know what makes an excellent NAS device?  An old
laptop.  It even has a built in UPS!  Heck, it can even be hidden away and
accessed wirelessly, if one doesn't have space to put it near a CAT5 jack.

My servers are old hardware.  EX: a P2 233mhz 196meg machine.  It's got one
old HDD in it.  It's using SME [E-smith] server OS.  It has been running for
about 10 years now.

I also run one "server" that runs windows.  This is because it is a backup
server and my HTPC.  I needed a server to make backups to, and a PC for the
TV for time and place shifting.  Since they would both need to be on 24/7, I
decided to combine them into one unit.  It was easy enough - a small "media
PC" motherboard with integrated graphics and a low power processor, decent
ram.  I stuck in 6 HDDs, seperated into 2 RAID arrays one for the TV section
and one for the backup server section.  It handles both chores well.

I normally don't use a photo managing tool.  I organize manually by
directory.  I share the folder, so my wife can access that via network.
Simple enough for me.

Kevin
www.flickr.com/kevinkemmerer/












www.flickr.com/kevinkemmerer/

> I've been curious about NAS arrays, but II usually have problems with
> large
> data transfers between computers on my network, particularly if one
> of them
> is connected via Wi-Fi, to the point that sometimes I prefer to put
> the
> data in an usb drive whenI have to load something to the wife’s
> laptop,
> How good is the performance of these NAS arrays? Do I have to be
> hardwired
> (not using wifi) to the network?
> Thank you

The wire will be faster than wireless. ... doesn't matter what NAS appliance
you are using.

Kevin

> wireless router itself. USB 2.0 is roughly 480 Mb. So the USB will be
> faster, unless you are on a wired gig ethernet connection. Then the
> NAS will be faster assuming everything is gig speed.

It may not make sense, but writing to a USB drive in my experience is faster
than wired ethernet.  In fact, writing to a USB drive on my PC copying from
a network server that uses almost all the bandwidth available is much slower
than writing to the same USB drive locally.

> I would look at the reviews of the different NAS on newegg.com but it
> does look like Western Digital has some really nice ones called the
> Personal Cloud Storage. They have a 3 TB unit for $199 that has a gig
> ethernet port. Personally I would do the NAS as a wired device. You

Just remember this:  HDDs fail.  Never trust your data to a cheap NAS device
without a backup somewhere!  several TB's are a LOT to lose!

Kevin

 

Hi,

I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures. I have photo elements 10.

Thanks,

Ann

Sent from my iPad

> expensive. I have an inexpensive Linksys wireless router right now.
> It costed me like $40. Well it will drop out once in a while (like
> once every day or two) for about 60 seconds. It is also not all that
> great for range or speed. That is why I am saving up for an Airport.
> All the stats and reviews I have read keep saying it is the fastest
> by a lot. So it will be worth the $200. Of course that means less
> camera equipment.

If you are comfortable with a little light 'hacking', you might be able to
replace your Linksys firmware with a 3rd party firmware and get a better
more reliable product.  My $40 linksys is running 3rd part firmware and
rarely 'misfires'.  It also gives me the functionality of a $400
firewall/router.

> it at a trusted relatives. Once you preload you can back up over the
> Internet to your external drive at a different location for free. I

Be sure this is a good idea....
If I shoot a 4GB card of pictures, and edit a few I'll have many gigs of
data to move over the internet connection..mine and someone elses...   This
may not be a good choice without good upload and download speeds and a ISP
that allows enough monthly traffic, not to mention reliability of
connections.

Kevin



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--- In photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com, "jackscanlon01"
<jackscanlon01@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I am having a little trouble working with Lightroom 4. I like the way it opens
automatically when I insert my memory disc into the computer, catalogs and
renames the images, and I like the options for editing the images while I have
them open. My problem is that I don't seem to be able to save the changes to the
same folder that I have the images stored on my desktop. It seems to save it
internally within the software, but I would like to be able to just save the
changes to the folder on my desktop. I see that you can export the changes, but
it creates another file within that folder. Lately what I do is, after I catalog
and rename the images, I close out of Lightroom and open my Photoshop CS5 and
then pull the image in, edit it and save it like you would with any other
windows type file. I know that if I want to retain the original image, I will
save it as another image name. Maybe I'm overlooking a step, but if anyone could
help, I'd apprecaite it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jack
> jackscanlon01@...
>

Jack, I saw that someone mentioned that LR does not make changes to the original
file, until it applies those changes during export/print operations.  I didn't
notice if anyone mentioned the Photoshop connection, so I'll make the connection
here. If, when you have your image open in LR, select the Photo pull-down menu
and select edit in.  It will bring up whatever graphics program you use, such as
photoshop.  When you select that, it will give you the options of editing the
original, editing a copy, or edit a copy with Lightroom adjustments.  If you
select copy with LR adjustments, everything you've done in LR will be applied
and you will be taken to PS.  When you complete your work there, and close/save
the image, it will take that copy and put it back in LR as a new file and you
can continue working on it there.  Very simple, very time saving.  Now, as far
as how and where to save any exported files, After I name the folder and files,
when I export a jpg, or any other format, I just save it in the original folder
in a subfolder named "jpg" or whatever I'm doing with it.  It keeps all
associated files in one base directory andeasy to locate.  If anyone else
mentioned this, I'm sorry, I got lost in all the responses.

Rob

I think Ann is asking about watermarks on her photos...like "Ann's Images" or
whatnot.  I am interested in this question, too.  What's the best program for
playing around with fonts and graphics and then how do you layer that on your
image (depends on the editing software, I suppose)?

> I think Ann is asking about watermarks on her photos...like "Ann's
> Images" or whatnot.  I am interested in this question, too.  What's
> the best program for playing around with fonts and graphics and then
> how do you layer that on your image (depends on the editing software,
> I suppose)?

It depends on the software you have available to you.  You might want to try
an internet search.  For example, if you have Adobe Elements, search for
watermark images adobe elements, or something like that.  This should return
some tutorials that hopefully will explain just what you need.

Kevin



www.flickr.com/kevinkemmerer/

I haven't had time to really get to know my new Oly OM-D E-M5 very well, but
I've shot some imges.

Here's a typical flower picture:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinkemmerer/7188279375/

And here's a photo of an architectural miniature model made using the "art
mode" miniature, which is tyically used to make big things look small...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinkemmerer/

I like many things about this camera, but so far I'm not really escited
about hte image quality and there are several things that annoy me a lot.
I'm going to keep trying to make it a good match for me.

Kevin








www.flickr.com/kevinkemmerer/

--- In photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com, "The Kevin" <kevkem@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't had time to really get to know my new Oly OM-D E-M5 very well, but
> I've shot some imges.
>
> Here's a typical flower picture:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinkemmerer/7188279375/
>
> And here's a photo of an architectural miniature model made using the "art
> mode" miniature, which is tyically used to make big things look small...
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinkemmerer/
>
> I like many things about this camera, but so far I'm not really escited
> about hte image quality and there are several things that annoy me a lot.
> I'm going to keep trying to make it a good match for me.
>

I've had mine for 7 weeks or so and after some learning the image quality is
outstanding as is the low light performance. Most credible review sites agree.

There are a tremendous number of settings which take tome to learn.

What issues are you having?

gerry