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#69329 From: Ann Follett <annfollett@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:51 am
Subject: Info
geezergirl12
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Hi,

I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures.  I have photo
elements 10.

Thanks,

Ann

Sent from my iPad

#69330 From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
therustycook
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One other suggestion I would make. You said you have external hard drives. It is really cheap now to get a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device or case for a hard drive. Think of an external hard drive that connects to your network instead of to your USB port. In your case both you and your wife can easily connect to the same file space. You then set up a folder system on the NAS and export your photos to that space. Then you don't have to sneaker net the photos to her computer. The NAS devices are not much more than regular external hard drives, and you can get just a NAS case and then move your hard drive from the existing external case to the NAS case too. 

John mentioned the FastStone Image Viewer software. That is nice. You might also want to look into Google Picasa. It is quite nice too. I am thinking after their acquisition of Picnik that they will be putting in some cool editing features in the near future. You can tell Picasa to monitor different folders for new images too. So that way when you put new images on the NAS then the next time your wife opens Picasa she will automatically see them in there. Of course Picasa is free too. 

Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:58 AM, johnpford@... wrote:

 

Jack,

Now that I know you want to make it easy for your wife, I have a suggestion. If you don't have it, download the incredible freebie, FastStone Image Viewer:

You can export web sized JPGs from Lightroom 4 to folders on your PC, copy them to her PC and let her enjoy them, share them with family/friends, make great slide shows she can share with folks via another freebie, DropBox:

She'll be a happy camper when she has such easy access to so much fun stuff.

John Ford



From: "Jack Scanlon" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 

Rusty or others from the group,
 
What would be your procedure from camera to sharing do you go through if you use Lightroom if you were in my situation?  I have my pc loaded with Lightroom 4, Photoshop CS5.1,  Premiere Elements 10 on a Windows 7 based operating system and my wife has her own pc without any editing software(except basic Windows Vista software that came with the computer). For the most part, I would just like to take the images from the camera do a quick edit to sharpen, brighten, enhance and maybe a quick cover up of skin tone. Then transfer the images to an external drive so that I can transfer them or copy to my wife's computer so she can do what she does. When I have free time, I'll open PS CS5 and fool around a little more or to Elements to make a project, but 90% of the time it would be the quick edit and share.
 
I realize I'll have to change my file cataloging system to adhere to the "Lightroom Way" but once I develop a new system, it'll be more efficient. Thanks for everyone's comments...always looking to learn and it looks like I have my work cut out for me! This whole photography hobby has been a great adventure so far and I'm so pleased at what I've accomplished so far by taking a lot of the tips I've learned from the group to date.
 
Thanks,
Jack

Jack Scanlon
jackscanlon01@...


-----Original Message-----
From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
To: photography_beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Jack, what I would recommend is that you create a separate file structure to save your exported files into. You would keep the originals in the original folders. Then tell your wife to look in the other folders for the final photos. You will find that the exported files do not end up in the Lightroom catalog unless you reimport them. 

Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 10, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Jack Scanlon wrote:

 

Hi John,
 
I'm pretty sure I know what you mean about the catalogs in Lightroom and keeping them on different drives and I'll have to start using that method.
 
Before any of the Photoshop software, I would just use the editing in  Windows and the changes would be saved in the same folder on my desktop(or wherever I have the folder located). My wife would then have access to the images so she could share them via email, facebook, etc. She isn't capable of going into Lightroom's catalogs to retrieve the images nor would she ever want to learn...I have to keep it simple. I also don't want her on my computer messing things up...lol. Oftentimes, I would come home after an outing and she is anxious to share the photos so I would do a quick edit and she's happy. Now, even though the editing in the Lightroom of PSCS5 is so much more powerfull and effective, she has to wait until I do my thing, export the edited image, then delete the original image or make a new folder, copy it to a external drive and move it to her computer so she can have access. It just complicates things a little...but I guess you can't rush quality. In Photoshop CS5, you can open an image, edit it then save your changes without making another copy...that is what I would want Lightroom to do. I'll look at the link and see where that leads me.
 
Thank you...nobody ever told me photography editing would be easy...lol!
Jack

Jack Scanlon
jackscanlon01@...


-----Original Message-----
From: johnpford <johnpford@...>
To: photography beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Jack,

You can move your catalogs and files to another disc. I have all my files on three external hard drives and all my catalog data on one of the externals. The only part of Lightroom on my PC's C drive is the program.

A big advantage to this is I have Lightroom on my desktop PC and on my laptop. If I want to work on the laptop when I'm away from home, all I have to do is carry the external drive(s) with me and I'm up and rolling. It would be hard to go into all of the options for image/catalog management in an email like this.

My suggestion is open Lightroom, go to the help menu and click on Lightroom Help:
There is plenty of info there including, Managing catalogs and files

The way you are man aging your files and edits does not take advantage of the great organizational attributes of Lightroom 4. You are re-inventing the wheel   :o))

It is important to do all your image/folder management in Lightroom and and not in Windows. As long as you do it within Lightroom, Lightroom will keep track of every thing you do. If you do it in Windows, Lightroom will not remember what you have done.

I can't tell if you have set up external editors in Lightroom preferences. If you have, you have some great possibilities. Whenever I want to leave Lightroom, I edit in Photoshop or whatever. The key thing is when you've finished with your external edit you use the Save command and not the Save As command. Do not change the file name in any way. When you use the Save command, go bac k to Lightroom and you will see your edited file back in Lighroom. This is huge, you can use Lightroom's great cataloging/organizational features to keep your work organized. Lightroom has great database features that many folks do not take advantage of. I've been using Lightroom since Lightroom 1 and I'm still finding new aspects that I haven't yet realized.


Hope this helps,

John Ford


From: "jackscanlon01" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:21:00 AM
Subject: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Hi Group,

I am having a little trouble working with Lightroom 4. I like the way it opens automatically when I insert my memory disc into the computer, catalogs and renames the images, and I like the options for editing the images while I have them open. My problem is that I don't seem to be able to save the changes to the same folder that I have the images stored on my desktop. It seems to save it internally within the software, but I would like to be able to just save the changes to the folder on my desktop. I see that you can export the changes, but it creates another file within that folder. Lately what I do is, after I catalog and rename the images, I close out of Lightroom and open my Photoshop CS5 and then pull the image in, edit it and save it like you would with any other windows type file. I know that if I want to retain the original image, I will save it as another image name. Maybe I'm overlooking a step, but if anyone could help, I'd apprecaite it.

Thanks,
Jack
jackscanlon01@...







#69331 From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: Info
therustycook
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For photo info what type of info are you talking about? The EXIF info on how the photo was shot is there automatically. That is added by the camera. If you are talking other tags, like Christmas or reunion, well those are keyword tags. In the organizer look to the right and you should see a panel for keywords. Just drag any of the keywords you want and drop them right on the photo. You can put multiple keywords on a single photo. You can create new keywords too. 

For your name, I am not sure if PSE has a way to update the EXIF with your copyright info. I know I can do it in Aperture when I load the photos from the camera to the computer. Guess I will have to go in the organizer and look again. I don't use Organizer now that I have Aperture. I just use the PSE editor. But I bet there is a way to do it. 

Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Ann Follett wrote:

 

Hi,

I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures. I have photo elements 10.

Thanks,

Ann

Sent from my iPad



#69332 From: Jack <jackscanlon01@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
jackscanlon01
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Rusty, 
I like the idea of the NAS. I was always thinking of a server that could be accessed by all the computers in my house...kids included...but that sounds like it would be cheaper and easier to set up.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...> wrote:

 

One other suggestion I would make. You said you have external hard drives. It is really cheap now to get a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device or case for a hard drive. Think of an external hard drive that connects to your network instead of to your USB port. In your case both you and your wife can easily connect to the same file space. You then set up a folder system on the NAS and export your photos to that space. Then you don't have to sneaker net the photos to her computer. The NAS devices are not much more than regular external hard drives, and you can get just a NAS case and then move your hard drive from the existing external case to the NAS case too. 


John mentioned the FastStone Image Viewer software. That is nice. You might also want to look into Google Picasa. It is quite nice too. I am thinking after their acquisition of Picnik that they will be putting in some cool editing features in the near future. You can tell Picasa to moni tor different folders for new images too. So that way when you put new images on the NAS then the next time your wife opens Picasa she will automatically see them in there. Of course Picasa is free too. 

Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:58 AM, johnpford@... wrote:

 

Jack,

Now that I know you want to make it easy for your wife, I have a suggestion. If you don't have it, download the incredible freebie, FastStone Image Viewer:

You can export web sized JPGs from Lightroom 4 to folders on your PC, copy them to her PC and let her enjoy them, share them with family/friends, make great slide shows she can share with folks via another freebie, DropBox:

She'll be a happy camper when she has such easy access to so much fun stuff.

John Ford



From: "Jack Scanlon" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 

Rusty or others from the group,
 
What would be your procedure from camera to sharing do you go through if you use Lightroom if you were in my situation?  I have my pc loaded with Lightroom 4, Photoshop CS5.1,  Premiere Elements 10 on a Windows 7 based operating system and my wife has her own pc without any editing software(except basic Windows Vista software that came with the computer). For the most part, I would just like to take the images from the camera do a quick edit to sharpen, brighten, enhance and maybe a quick cover up of skin tone. Then transfer the images to an external drive so that I can transfer them or copy to my wife's computer so she can do what she does. When I have free time, I'll open PS CS5 and fool around a little more or to Elements to make a project, but 90% of the time it would be the quick edit and share.
 
I realize I'll have to change my file cataloging system to adhere to the "Lightroom Way" but once I develop a new system, it'll be more efficient. Thanks for everyone's comments...always looking to learn and it looks like I have my work cut out for me! This whole photography hobby has been a great adventure so far and I'm so pleased at what I've accomplished so far by taking a lot of the tips I've learned from the group to date.
 
Thanks,
Jack

Jack Scanlon
jackscanlon01@...


-----Original Message-----
From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
To: photography_beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Jack, what I would recommend is that you create a separate file structure to save your exported files into. You would keep the originals in the original folders. Then tell your wife to look in the other folders for the final photos. You will find that the exported files do not end up in the Lightroom catalog unless you reimport them. 

Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 10, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Jack Scanlon wrote:

 

Hi John,
 
I'm pretty sure I know what you mean about the catalogs in Lightroom and keeping them on different drives and I'll have to start using that method.
 
Before any of the Photoshop software, I would just use the editing in  Windows and the changes would be saved in the same folder on my desktop(or wherever I have the folder located). My wife would then have access to the images so she could share them via email, facebook, etc. She isn't capable of going into Lightroom's catalogs to retrieve the images nor would she ever want to learn...I have to keep it simple. I also don't want her on my computer messing things up...lol. Oftentimes, I would come home after an outing and she is anxious to share the photos so I would do a quick edit and she's happy. Now, even though the editing in the Lightroom of PSCS5 is so much more powerfull and effective, she has to wait until I do my thing, export the edited image, then delete the original image or make a new folder, copy it to a external drive and move it to her computer so she can have access. It just complicates things a little...but I guess you can't rush quality. In Photoshop CS5, you can open an image, edit it then save your changes without making another copy...that is what I would want Lightroom to do. I'll look at the link and see where that leads me.
 
Thank you...nobody ever told me photography editing would be easy...lol!
Jack

Jack Scanlon
jackscanlon01@...


-----Original Message-----
From: johnpford <johnpford@...>
To: photography beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Jack,

You can move your catalogs and files to another disc. I have all my files on three external hard drives and all my catalog data on one of the externals. The only part of Lightroom on my PC's C drive is the program.

A big advantage to this is I have Lightroom on my desktop PC and on my laptop. If I want to work on the laptop when I'm away from home, all I have to do is carry the external drive(s) with me and I'm up and rolling. It would be hard to go into all of the options for image/catalog management in an email like this.

My suggestion is open Lightroom, go to the help menu and click on Lightroom Help:
There is plenty of info there including, Managing catalogs and files

The way you are man aging your files and edits does not take advantage of the great organizational attributes of Lightroom 4. You are re-inventing the wheel   :o))

It is important to do all your image/folder management in Lightroom and and not in Windows. As long as you do it within Lightroom, Lightroom will keep track of every thing you do. If you do it in Windows, Lightroom will not remember what you have done.

I can't tell if you have set up external editors in Lightroom preferences. If you have, you have some great possibilities. Whenever I want to leave Lightroom, I edit in Photoshop or whatever. The key thing is when you've finished with your external edit you use the Save command and not the Save As command. Do not change the file name in any way. When you use the Save command, go bac k to Lightroom and you will see your edited file back in Lighroom. This is huge, you can use Lightroom's great cataloging/organizational features to keep your work organized. Lightroom has great database features that many folks do not take advantage of. I've been using Lightroom since Lightroom 1 and I'm still finding new aspects that I haven't yet realized.


Hope this helps,

John Ford


From: "jackscanlon01" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:21:00 AM
Subject: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Hi Group,

I am having a little trouble working with Lightroom 4. I like the way it opens automatically when I insert my memory disc into the computer, catalogs and renames the images, and I like the options for editing the images while I have them open. My problem is that I don't seem to be able to save the changes to the same folder that I have the images stored on my desktop. It seems to save it internally within the software, but I would like to be able to just save the changes to the folder on my desktop. I see that you can export the changes, but it creates another file within that folder. Lately what I do is, after I catalog and rename the images, I close out of Lightroom and open my Photoshop CS5 and then pull the image in, edit it and save it like you would with any other windows type file. I know that if I want to retain the original image, I will save it as another image name. Maybe I'm overlooking a step, but if anyone could help, I'd apprecaite it.

Thanks,
Jack
jackscanlon01@...







#69333 From: Andrés Valencia <advalencia@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
dudd_bolt
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I've been curious about NAS arrays, but II usually have problems with large data transfers between computers on my network, particularly if one of them is connected via Wi-Fi, to the point that sometimes I prefer to put the data in an usb drive whenI have to load something to the wife’s laptop,
How good is the performance of these NAS arrays? Do I have to be hardwired (not using wifi) to the network?
Thank you


On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Jack <jackscanlon01@...> wrote:
 

Rusty, 
I like the idea of the NAS. I was always thinking of a server that could be accessed by all the computers in my house...kids included...but that sounds like it would be cheaper and easier to set up.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...> wrote:

 

One other suggestion I would make. You said you have external hard drives. It is really cheap now to get a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device or case for a hard drive. Think of an external hard drive that connects to your network instead of to your USB port. In your case both you and your wife can easily connect to the same file space. You then set up a folder system on the NAS and export your photos to that space. Then you don't have to sneaker net the photos to her computer. The NAS devices are not much more than regular external hard drives, and you can get just a NAS case and then move your hard drive from the existing external case to the NAS case too. 


John mentioned the FastStone Image Viewer software. That is nice. You might also want to look into Google Picasa. It is quite nice too. I am thinking after their acquisition of Picnik that they will be putting in some cool editing features in the near future. You can tell Picasa to moni tor different folders for new images too. So that way when you put new images on the NAS then the next time your wife opens Picasa she will automatically see them in there. Of course Picasa is free too. 


Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:58 AM, johnpford@... wrote:

 

Jack,

Now that I know you want to make it easy for your wife, I have a suggestion. If you don't have it, download the incredible freebie, FastStone Image Viewer:

You can export web sized JPGs from Lightroom 4 to folders on your PC, copy them to her PC and let her enjoy them, share them with family/friends, make great slide shows she can share with folks via another freebie, DropBox:

She'll be a happy camper when she has such easy access to so much fun stuff.

John Ford



From: "Jack Scanlon" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 

Rusty or others from the group,
 
What would be your procedure from camera to sharing do you go through if you use Lightroom if you were in my situation?  I have my pc loaded with Lightroom 4, Photoshop CS5.1,  Premiere Elements 10 on a Windows 7 based operating system and my wife has her own pc without any editing software(except basic Windows Vista software that came with the computer). For the most part, I would just like to take the images from the camera do a quick edit to sharpen, brighten, enhance and maybe a quick cover up of skin tone. Then transfer the images to an external drive so that I can transfer them or copy to my wife's computer so she can do what she does. When I have free time, I'll open PS CS5 and fool around a little more or to Elements to make a project, but 90% of the time it would be the quick edit and share.
 
I realize I'll have to change my file cataloging system to adhere to the "Lightroom Way" but once I develop a new system, it'll be more efficient. Thanks for everyone's comments...always looking to learn and it looks like I have my work cut out for me! This whole photography hobby has been a great adventure so far and I'm so pleased at what I've accomplished so far by taking a lot of the tips I've learned from the group to date.
 
Thanks,
Jack

Jack Scanlon
jackscanlon01@...


-----Original Message-----
From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
To: photography_beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Jack, what I would recommend is that you create a separate file structure to save your exported files into. You would keep the originals in the original folders. Then tell your wife to look in the other folders for the final photos. You will find that the exported files do not end up in the Lightroom catalog unless you reimport them. 

Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 10, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Jack Scanlon wrote:

 

Hi John,
 
I'm pretty sure I know what you mean about the catalogs in Lightroom and keeping them on different drives and I'll have to start using that method.
 
Before any of the Photoshop software, I would just use the editing in  Windows and the changes would be saved in the same folder on my desktop(or wherever I have the folder located). My wife would then have access to the images so she could share them via email, facebook, etc. She isn't capable of going into Lightroom's catalogs to retrieve the images nor would she ever want to learn...I have to keep it simple. I also don't want her on my computer messing things up...lol. Oftentimes, I would come home after an outing and she is anxious to share the photos so I would do a quick edit and she's happy. Now, even though the editing in the Lightroom of PSCS5 is so much more powerfull and effective, she has to wait until I do my thing, export the edited image, then delete the original image or make a new folder, copy it to a external drive and move it to her computer so she can have access. It just complicates things a little...but I guess you can't rush quality. In Photoshop CS5, you can open an image, edit it then save your changes without making another copy...that is what I would want Lightroom to do. I'll look at the link and see where that leads me.
 
Thank you...nobody ever told me photography editing would be easy...lol!
Jack

Jack Scanlon
jackscanlon01@...


-----Original Message-----
From: johnpford <johnpford@...>
To: photography beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Jack,

You can move your catalogs and files to another disc. I have all my files on three external hard drives and all my catalog data on one of the externals. The only part of Lightroom on my PC's C drive is the program.

A big advantage to this is I have Lightroom on my desktop PC and on my laptop. If I want to work on the laptop when I'm away from home, all I have to do is carry the external drive(s) with me and I'm up and rolling. It would be hard to go into all of the options for image/catalog management in an email like this.

My suggestion is open Lightroom, go to the help menu and click on Lightroom Help:
There is plenty of info there including, Managing catalogs and files

The way you are man aging your files and edits does not take advantage of the great organizational attributes of Lightroom 4. You are re-inventing the wheel   :o))

It is important to do all your image/folder management in Lightroom and and not in Windows. As long as you do it within Lightroom, Lightroom will keep track of every thing you do. If you do it in Windows, Lightroom will not remember what you have done.

I can't tell if you have set up external editors in Lightroom preferences. If you have, you have some great possibilities. Whenever I want to leave Lightroom, I edit in Photoshop or whatever. The key thing is when you've finished with your external edit you use the Save command and not the Save As command. Do not change the file name in any way. When you use the Save command, go bac k to Lightroom and you will see your edited file back in Lighroom. This is huge, you can use Lightroom's great cataloging/organizational features to keep your work organized. Lightroom has great database features that many folks do not take advantage of. I've been using Lightroom since Lightroom 1 and I'm still finding new aspects that I haven't yet realized.


Hope this helps,

John Ford


From: "jackscanlon01" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:21:00 AM
Subject: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Hi Group,

I am having a little trouble working with Lightroom 4. I like the way it opens automatically when I insert my memory disc into the computer, catalogs and renames the images, and I like the options for editing the images while I have them open. My problem is that I don't seem to be able to save the changes to the same folder that I have the images stored on my desktop. It seems to save it internally within the software, but I would like to be able to just save the changes to the folder on my desktop. I see that you can export the changes, but it creates another file within that folder. Lately what I do is, after I catalog and rename the images, I close out of Lightroom and open my Photoshop CS5 and then pull the image in, edit it and save it like you would with any other windows type file. I know that if I want to retain the original image, I will save it as another image name. Maybe I'm overlooking a step, but if anyone could help, I'd apprecaite it.

Thanks,
Jack
jackscanlon01@...








#69334 From: Kurt <bluephi91@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: Info
bluephi91
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There is a program call photo gene for the iPhone and ipad

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2012, at 6:51 AM, Ann Follett <annfollett@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures. I have photo elements 10.

Thanks,

Ann

Sent from my iPad

=

#69335 From: "The Kevin" <kevkem@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: Info
fangleman
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I understood this question to mean, apply a watermark of name and info.  If
I misunderstood, then....There are free EXIF editors, and most reasonable
photo managing programs can do it too.

Check this out:
http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/03/26/adding-copyright-to-exif-automatically\
/

Kevin
www.flickr.com/kevinkemmerer/




> For photo info what type of info are you talking about? The EXIF info
> on how the photo was shot is there automatically. That is added by
> the camera. If you are talking other tags, like Christmas or reunion,
> well those are keyword tags. In the organizer look to the right and
> you should see a panel for keywords. Just drag any of the keywords
> you want and drop them right on the photo. You can put multiple
> keywords on a single photo. You can create new keywords too.
>
> For your name, I am not sure if PSE has a way to update the EXIF with
> your copyright info. I know I can do it in Aperture when I load the
> photos from the camera to the computer. Guess I will have to go in
> the organizer and look again. I don't use Organizer now that I have
> Aperture. I just use the PSE editor. But I bet there is a way to do
> it.
>
> Rusty
> therustycook@...
> Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!
>
> And visit http://www.onewiththecamera.com/
>
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Ann Follett wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures. I
>> have photo elements 10.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> Sent from my iPad



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#69336 From: "The Kevin" <kevkem@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
fangleman
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> Rusty,
> I like the idea of the NAS. I was always thinking of a server that
> could be accessed by all the computers in my house...kids
> included...but that sounds like it would be cheaper and easier to set
> up.


NAS appliances are nice.  They are low power, easy to set up [usually] and
generally do a good job.  Some will even allow you to set up access from
outside your home network, though your firewall [You DO have a firewall,
correct?].

But sometimes free is better than cheap.  I prefer to use old computers as
NAS devices.  I've been running a linux server for years.  It was faster
than setting up a typical windows isntallation, and easy.  It has no GUI at
all.  Command line only, but once it is installed it is administered through
a web page, just as most NAS appliances are.

The OS is free, and if you have old hardware laying around, then the
hardware is free too.  You know what makes an excellent NAS device?  An old
laptop.  It even has a built in UPS!  Heck, it can even be hidden away and
accessed wirelessly, if one doesn't have space to put it near a CAT5 jack.

My servers are old hardware.  EX: a P2 233mhz 196meg machine.  It's got one
old HDD in it.  It's using SME [E-smith] server OS.  It has been running for
about 10 years now.

I also run one "server" that runs windows.  This is because it is a backup
server and my HTPC.  I needed a server to make backups to, and a PC for the
TV for time and place shifting.  Since they would both need to be on 24/7, I
decided to combine them into one unit.  It was easy enough - a small "media
PC" motherboard with integrated graphics and a low power processor, decent
ram.  I stuck in 6 HDDs, seperated into 2 RAID arrays one for the TV section
and one for the backup server section.  It handles both chores well.

I normally don't use a photo managing tool.  I organize manually by
directory.  I share the folder, so my wife can access that via network.
Simple enough for me.

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#69337 From: "The Kevin" <kevkem@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
fangleman
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> I've been curious about NAS arrays, but II usually have problems with
> large
> data transfers between computers on my network, particularly if one
> of them
> is connected via Wi-Fi, to the point that sometimes I prefer to put
> the
> data in an usb drive whenI have to load something to the wife’s
> laptop,
> How good is the performance of these NAS arrays? Do I have to be
> hardwired
> (not using wifi) to the network?
> Thank you

The wire will be faster than wireless. ... doesn't matter what NAS appliance
you are using.

Kevin

#69338 From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
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NAS can be hooked up wirelessly or wired. A wired connection will often be faster. Wired connections will be either 100 Mb or 1 Gb in speed depending on the NAS device and your wired switch port. If you have 802.1 N you might have faster than 100 Mb for network speed from your wireless, but that can vary a lot in reality depending on things like interference and distance from the wireless router and the wireless router itself. USB 2.0 is roughly 480 Mb. So the USB will be faster, unless you are on a wired gig ethernet connection. Then the NAS will be faster assuming everything is gig speed. 

The big thing here is that often people are willing to lose a little in speed to gain convenience. I am thinking in Jack's case that his wife will not notice any difference at all. And Jack would probably have to measure transfer speeds to see any real difference. Combine that with loss of time sneaker netting things around then the NAS will definitely be faster. 

If you deal with a lot of large file transfers and can be wired for both NAS and your computer then the NAS will be faster. Again, it is just one of those things of trade offs. I know... it sucks... but until we get faster wireless that is just what it is. I would not doubt that in 5 years or so we will have wireless faster than USB 2.0. But of course USB 3.0 is already out. And if you are on a Mac you have the Thunderbolt ports. And some computers have ESATA as well. So it is never an easy answer. 

I would look at the reviews of the different NAS on newegg.com but it does look like Western Digital has some really nice ones called the Personal Cloud Storage. They have a 3 TB unit for $199 that has a gig ethernet port. Personally I would do the NAS as a wired device. You probably will find that if you have an older wireless router the wired ports are only 100 Mb but the newer ones go gig. Again, it is all about chasing that dream and how much you want to spend, haha. Oh, the very top end Netgear and the Apple Airport both have the highest rated wireless routers both for throughput speed and for distance. But they will both run just shy of $200 for a unit. I so need a money tree. 

Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Andrés Valencia wrote:

 

I've been curious about NAS arrays, but II usually have problems with large data transfers between computers on my network, particularly if one of them is connected via Wi-Fi, to the point that sometimes I prefer to put the data in an usb drive whenI have to load something to the wife’s laptop,
How good is the performance of these NAS arrays? Do I have to be hardwired (not using wifi) to the network?
Thank you


On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Jack <jackscanlon01@...> wrote:
 

Rusty, 
I like the idea of the NAS. I was always thinking of a server that could be accessed by all the computers in my house...kids included...but that sounds like it would be cheaper and easier to set up.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...> wrote:

 

One other suggestion I would make. You said you have external hard drives. It is really cheap now to get a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device or case for a hard drive. Think of an external hard drive that connects to your network instead of to your USB port. In your case both you and your wife can easily connect to the same file space. You then set up a folder system on the NAS and export your photos to that space. Then you don't have to sneaker net the photos to her computer. The NAS devices are not much more than regular external hard drives, and you can get just a NAS case and then move your hard drive from the existing external case to the NAS case too. 


John mentioned the FastStone Image Viewer software. That is nice. You might also want to look into Google Picasa. It is quite nice too. I am thinking after their acquisition of Picnik that they will be putting in some cool editing features in the near future. You can tell Picasa to moni tor different folders for new images too. So that way when you put new images on the NAS then the next time your wife opens Picasa she will automatically see them in there. Of course Picasa is free too. 


Rusty
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:58 AM, johnpford@... wrote:

 

Jack,

Now that I know you want to make it easy for your wife, I have a suggestion. If you don't have it, download the incredible freebie, FastStone Image Viewer:

You can export web sized JPGs from Lightroom 4 to folders on your PC, copy them to her PC and let her enjoy them, share them with family/friends, make great slide shows she can share with folks via another freebie, DropBox:

She'll be a happy camper when she has such easy access to so much fun stuff.

John Ford



From: "Jack Scanlon" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 

Rusty or others from the group,
 
What would be your procedure from camera to sharing do you go through if you use Lightroom if you were in my situation?  I have my pc loaded with Lightroom 4, Photoshop CS5.1,  Premiere Elements 10 on a Windows 7 based operating system and my wife has her own pc without any editing software(except basic Windows Vista software that came with the computer). For the most part, I would just like to take the images from the camera do a quick edit to sharpen, brighten, enhance and maybe a quick cover up of skin tone. Then transfer the images to an external drive so that I can transfer them or copy to my wife's computer so she can do what she does. When I have free time, I'll open PS CS5 and fool around a little more or to Elements to make a project, but 90% of the time it would be the quick edit and share.
 
I realize I'll have to change my file cataloging system to adhere to the "Lightroom Way" but once I develop a new system, it'll be more efficient. Thanks for everyone's comments...always looking to learn and it looks like I have my work cut out for me! This whole photography hobby has been a great adventure so far and I'm so pleased at what I've accomplished so far by taking a lot of the tips I've learned from the group to date.
 
Thanks,
Jack

Jack Scanlon
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From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
To: photography_beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Jack, what I would recommend is that you create a separate file structure to save your exported files into. You would keep the originals in the original folders. Then tell your wife to look in the other folders for the final photos. You will find that the exported files do not end up in the Lightroom catalog unless you reimport them. 

Rusty
Remember: It was not raining when Noah built the ark!




On Jun 10, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Jack Scanlon wrote:

 

Hi John,
 
I'm pretty sure I know what you mean about the catalogs in Lightroom and keeping them on different drives and I'll have to start using that method.
 
Before any of the Photoshop software, I would just use the editing in  Windows and the changes would be saved in the same folder on my desktop(or wherever I have the folder located). My wife would then have access to the images so she could share them via email, facebook, etc. She isn't capable of going into Lightroom's catalogs to retrieve the images nor would she ever want to learn...I have to keep it simple. I also don't want her on my computer messing things up...lol. Oftentimes, I would come home after an outing and she is anxious to share the photos so I would do a quick edit and she's happy. Now, even though the editing in the Lightroom of PSCS5 is so much more powerfull and effective, she has to wait until I do my thing, export the edited image, then delete the original image or make a new folder, copy it to a external drive and move it to her computer so she can have access. It just complicates things a little...but I guess you can't rush quality. In Photoshop CS5, you can open an image, edit it then save your changes without making another copy...that is what I would want Lightroom to do. I'll look at the link and see where that leads me.
 
Thank you...nobody ever told me photography editing would be easy...lol!
Jack

Jack Scanlon
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-----Original Message-----
From: johnpford <johnpford@...>
To: photography beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Jack,

You can move your catalogs and files to another disc. I have all my files on three external hard drives and all my catalog data on one of the externals. The only part of Lightroom on my PC's C drive is the program.

A big advantage to this is I have Lightroom on my desktop PC and on my laptop. If I want to work on the laptop when I'm away from home, all I have to do is carry the external drive(s) with me and I'm up and rolling. It would be hard to go into all of the options for image/catalog management in an email like this.

My suggestion is open Lightroom, go to the help menu and click on Lightroom Help:
There is plenty of info there including, Managing catalogs and files

The way you are man aging your files and edits does not take advantage of the great organizational attributes of Lightroom 4. You are re-inventing the wheel   :o))

It is important to do all your image/folder management in Lightroom and and not in Windows. As long as you do it within Lightroom, Lightroom will keep track of every thing you do. If you do it in Windows, Lightroom will not remember what you have done.

I can't tell if you have set up external editors in Lightroom preferences. If you have, you have some great possibilities. Whenever I want to leave Lightroom, I edit in Photoshop or whatever. The key thing is when you've finished with your external edit you use the Save command and not the Save As command. Do not change the file name in any way. When you use the Save command, go bac k to Lightroom and you will see your edited file back in Lighroom. This is huge, you can use Lightroom's great cataloging/organizational features to keep your work organized. Lightroom has great database features that many folks do not take advantage of. I've been using Lightroom since Lightroom 1 and I'm still finding new aspects that I haven't yet realized.


Hope this helps,

John Ford


From: "jackscanlon01" <jackscanlon01@...>
To: "photography beginners" <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:21:00 AM
Subject: [photography_beginners] Lightroom 4

 
Hi Group,

I am having a little trouble working with Lightroom 4. I like the way it opens automatically when I insert my memory disc into the computer, catalogs and renames the images, and I like the options for editing the images while I have them open. My problem is that I don't seem to be able to save the changes to the same folder that I have the images stored on my desktop. It seems to save it internally within the software, but I would like to be able to just save the changes to the folder on my desktop. I see that you can export the changes, but it creates another file within that folder. Lately what I do is, after I catalog and rename the images, I close out of Lightroom and open my Photoshop CS5 and then pull the image in, edit it and save it like you would with any other windows type file. I know that if I want to retain the original image, I will save it as another image name. Maybe I'm overlooking a step, but if anyone could help, I'd apprecaite it.

Thanks,
Jack
jackscanlon01@...












#69339 From: "The Kevin" <kevkem@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
fangleman
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> wireless router itself. USB 2.0 is roughly 480 Mb. So the USB will be
> faster, unless you are on a wired gig ethernet connection. Then the
> NAS will be faster assuming everything is gig speed.

It may not make sense, but writing to a USB drive in my experience is faster
than wired ethernet.  In fact, writing to a USB drive on my PC copying from
a network server that uses almost all the bandwidth available is much slower
than writing to the same USB drive locally.

> I would look at the reviews of the different NAS on newegg.com but it
> does look like Western Digital has some really nice ones called the
> Personal Cloud Storage. They have a 3 TB unit for $199 that has a gig
> ethernet port. Personally I would do the NAS as a wired device. You

Just remember this:  HDDs fail.  Never trust your data to a cheap NAS device
without a backup somewhere!  several TB's are a LOT to lose!

Kevin

#69340 From: Jen Russo <twinmommy_jen@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: Info
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It's easiest to add it in camera, but I believe you can use file>file info  in elements to add to an already taken image.

Jen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:51 AM, Ann Follett <annfollett@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

I need to know how to add my name and photo info to my pictures. I have photo elements 10.

Thanks,

Ann

Sent from my iPad

=

#69341 From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
therustycook
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I rarely give solid performance data for any of those because there are so many things that can affect throughput on any of them. There is hard drive speed (mainly spindle speed of the drive, but other things too) there is the speed of the network gear, the way the network drivers work on the computer, USB can have differences too.... so it is always a challenge to what works best. And yes there often is a reason the more expensive name brand gear is more expensive. I have an inexpensive Linksys wireless router right now. It costed me like $40. Well it will drop out once in a while (like once every day or two) for about 60 seconds. It is also not all that great for range or speed. That is why I am saving up for an Airport. All the stats and reviews I have read keep saying it is the fastest by a lot. So it will be worth the $200. Of course that means less camera equipment. 

As far as backups... never rely on a single backup no matter how good it is supposed to be. I use Time Machine and also an external drive separate from Time Machine. Although I am looking at a second WD external drive for a second Time Machine drive and will rotate them out and keep one at my daughters house in between. But for Windows users I highly highly recommend looking at Crashplan... at least for the backup software and then preload an external drive and then put it at a trusted relatives. Once you preload you can back up over the Internet to your external drive at a different location for free. I am getting ready though to also get the family plan for Crashplan and back up certain directories of all the computers to the cloud. It is a bit slow for photos and such at the rate I create them, but it really rocks for the day to day stuff. And Crashplan is Linux, Mac, and Windows friendly. 

Rusty
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:39 AM, The Kevin wrote:

wireless router itself. USB 2.0 is roughly 480 Mb. So the USB will be
faster, unless you are on a wired gig ethernet connection. Then the
NAS will be faster assuming everything is gig speed.

It may not make sense, but writing to a USB drive in my experience is faster
than wired ethernet.  In fact, writing to a USB drive on my PC copying from
a network server that uses almost all the bandwidth available is much slower
than writing to the same USB drive locally.

I would look at the reviews of the different NAS on newegg.com but it
does look like Western Digital has some really nice ones called the
Personal Cloud Storage. They have a 3 TB unit for $199 that has a gig
ethernet port. Personally I would do the NAS as a wired device. You

Just remember this:  HDDs fail.  Never trust your data to a cheap NAS device
without a backup somewhere!  several TB's are a LOT to lose!

Kevin



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#69342 From: "The Kevin" <kevkem@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
fangleman
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> expensive. I have an inexpensive Linksys wireless router right now.
> It costed me like $40. Well it will drop out once in a while (like
> once every day or two) for about 60 seconds. It is also not all that
> great for range or speed. That is why I am saving up for an Airport.
> All the stats and reviews I have read keep saying it is the fastest
> by a lot. So it will be worth the $200. Of course that means less
> camera equipment.

If you are comfortable with a little light 'hacking', you might be able to
replace your Linksys firmware with a 3rd party firmware and get a better
more reliable product.  My $40 linksys is running 3rd part firmware and
rarely 'misfires'.  It also gives me the functionality of a $400
firewall/router.

> it at a trusted relatives. Once you preload you can back up over the
> Internet to your external drive at a different location for free. I

Be sure this is a good idea....
If I shoot a 4GB card of pictures, and edit a few I'll have many gigs of
data to move over the internet connection..mine and someone elses...   This
may not be a good choice without good upload and download speeds and a ISP
that allows enough monthly traffic, not to mention reliability of
connections.

Kevin



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#69343 From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
therustycook
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It can get to be a lot. I have 30 Mb download speed and 4 Mb upload speed. So, although 4 GB is a lot, it is not overwhelming. I transfer stuff like that all the time for work too. My daughter has the same (her husband works in computers like me...). 

Rusty
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:35 PM, The Kevin wrote:

 

> expensive. I have an inexpensive Linksys wireless router right now.
> It costed me like $40. Well it will drop out once in a while (like
> once every day or two) for about 60 seconds. It is also not all that
> great for range or speed. That is why I am saving up for an Airport.
> All the stats and reviews I have read keep saying it is the fastest
> by a lot. So it will be worth the $200. Of course that means less
> camera equipment.

If you are comfortable with a little light 'hacking', you might be able to
replace your Linksys firmware with a 3rd party firmware and get a better
more reliable product. My $40 linksys is running 3rd part firmware and
rarely 'misfires'. It also gives me the functionality of a $400
firewall/router.

> it at a trusted relatives. Once you preload you can back up over the
> Internet to your external drive at a different location for free. I

Be sure this is a good idea....
If I shoot a 4GB card of pictures, and edit a few I'll have many gigs of
data to move over the internet connection..mine and someone elses... This
may not be a good choice without good upload and download speeds and a ISP
that allows enough monthly traffic, not to mention reliability of
connections.

Kevin

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#69344 From: "scubabix" <RobBixbyPhotography@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom 4
scubabix
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--- In photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com, "jackscanlon01"
<jackscanlon01@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I am having a little trouble working with Lightroom 4. I like the way it opens
automatically when I insert my memory disc into the computer, catalogs and
renames the images, and I like the options for editing the images while I have
them open. My problem is that I don't seem to be able to save the changes to the
same folder that I have the images stored on my desktop. It seems to save it
internally within the software, but I would like to be able to just save the
changes to the folder on my desktop. I see that you can export the changes, but
it creates another file within that folder. Lately what I do is, after I catalog
and rename the images, I close out of Lightroom and open my Photoshop CS5 and
then pull the image in, edit it and save it like you would with any other
windows type file. I know that if I want to retain the original image, I will
save it as another image name. Maybe I'm overlooking a step, but if anyone could
help, I'd apprecaite it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jack
> jackscanlon01@...
>

Jack, I saw that someone mentioned that LR does not make changes to the original
file, until it applies those changes during export/print operations.  I didn't
notice if anyone mentioned the Photoshop connection, so I'll make the connection
here. If, when you have your image open in LR, select the Photo pull-down menu
and select edit in.  It will bring up whatever graphics program you use, such as
photoshop.  When you select that, it will give you the options of editing the
original, editing a copy, or edit a copy with Lightroom adjustments.  If you
select copy with LR adjustments, everything you've done in LR will be applied
and you will be taken to PS.  When you complete your work there, and close/save
the image, it will take that copy and put it back in LR as a new file and you
can continue working on it there.  Very simple, very time saving.  Now, as far
as how and where to save any exported files, After I name the folder and files,
when I export a jpg, or any other format, I just save it in the original folder
in a subfolder named "jpg" or whatever I'm doing with it.  It keeps all
associated files in one base directory andeasy to locate.  If anyone else
mentioned this, I'm sorry, I got lost in all the responses.

Rob

#69345 From: Jennifer Robb <jrobb321@...>
Date: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:10 am
Subject: Re: Photo editing
jgrobb
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Thanks, Erica. I will go check it out now that I am off work.

Jennifer Robb
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-----Original Message-----
From: Erica Marshall <erica@...>
To: photography_beginners <photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [photography_beginners] Photo editing

 
I have some basics on my blog at http://blog.muddyboots.org just click on the "image editing" quick link on the right side of the page.  The lessons are for Gimp, but the tools exist and work similarly in most applications.
On Jun 10, 2012 8:33 PM, "Jennifer Robb" <jrobb321@...> wrote:


Could anyone share a reference site for general photo editing information? (Items like: in what order you should do your corrections; troubleshooting-i.e. "if you see this, then try doing this or using this tool to correct it")

As with many things, I thought I understood this, but most of my editing to date has been cropping, red-eye reduction and occasional sharpening of an image. Today I tried editing one that had some glare and reflection back from a window (Taken from inside plane so no way to avoid the window being there.)--I did okay but know it could be better.

Jennifer Robb
jrobb321@...



#69346 From: Jack Scanlon <jackscanlon01@...>
Date: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:05 am
Subject: Re: Re: Lightroom 4
jackscanlon01
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Hi Rob,
I just tried what you suggested and it worked beautifully! Thanks. Now I'm working toward the NAS idea for file sharing.
Thanks again!


Jack Scanlon
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Sent: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 5:50 pm
Subject: [photography_beginners] Re: Lightroom 4

 


--- In photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com, "jackscanlon01" <jackscanlon01@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I am having a little trouble working with Lightroom 4. I like the way it opens automatically when I insert my memory disc into the computer, catalogs and renames the images, and I like the options for editing the images while I have them open. My problem is that I don't seem to be able to save the changes to the same folder that I have the images stored on my desktop. It seems to save it internally within the software, but I would like to be able to just save the changes to the folder on my desktop. I see that you can export the changes, but it creates another file within that folder. Lately what I do is, after I catalog and rename the images, I close out of Lightroom and open my Photoshop CS5 and then pull the image in, edit it and save it like you would with any other windows type file. I know that if I want to retain the original image, I will save it as another image name. Maybe I'm overlooking a step, but if anyone could help, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jack
> jackscanlon01@...
>

Jack, I saw that someone mentioned that LR does not make changes to the original file, until it applies those changes during export/print operations. I didn't notice if anyone mentioned the Photoshop connection, so I'll make the connection here. If, when you have your image open in LR, select the Photo pull-down menu and select edit in. It will bring up whatever graphics program you use, such as photoshop. When you select that, it will give you the options of editing the original, editing a copy, or edit a copy with Lightroom adjustments. If you select copy with LR adjustments, everything you've done in LR will be applied and you will be taken to PS. When you complete your work there, and close/save the image, it will take that copy and put it back in LR as a new file and you can continue working on it there. Very simple, very time saving. Now, as far as how and where to save any exported files, After I name the folder and files, when I export a jpg, or any other forma t, I just save it in the original folder in a subfolder named "jpg" or whatever I'm doing with it. It keeps all associated files in one base directory andeasy to locate. If anyone else mentioned this, I'm sorry, I got lost in all the responses.

Rob


#69347 From: "hilarychill" <hilary.cheeley@...>
Date: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Info
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I think Ann is asking about watermarks on her photos...like "Ann's Images" or
whatnot.  I am interested in this question, too.  What's the best program for
playing around with fonts and graphics and then how do you layer that on your
image (depends on the editing software, I suppose)?

#69348 From: "The Kevin" <kevkem@...>
Date: Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Info
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> I think Ann is asking about watermarks on her photos...like "Ann's
> Images" or whatnot.  I am interested in this question, too.  What's
> the best program for playing around with fonts and graphics and then
> how do you layer that on your image (depends on the editing software,
> I suppose)?

It depends on the software you have available to you.  You might want to try
an internet search.  For example, if you have Adobe Elements, search for
watermark images adobe elements, or something like that.  This should return
some tutorials that hopefully will explain just what you need.

Kevin



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#69349 From: Jessica Whittle <jessie.whittle@...>
Date: Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Info
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I typed up a tutorial for creating a watermark brush in Photoshop CS4 a while back...  it can be found here: http://www.jessicawhittlephotography.com/2010/11/tutorial-creating-watermark-brush-in.html

jessie
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:49 AM, hilarychill <hilary.cheeley@...> wrote:
I think Ann is asking about watermarks on her photos...like "Ann's Images" or whatnot.  I am interested in this question, too.  What's the best program for playing around with fonts and graphics and then how do you layer that on your image (depends on the editing software, I suppose)?



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#69350 From: johnpford@...
Date: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Info - text and graphics
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Hilary,

You can handle any kind of text situation in Adobe Elements, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator etc. I assume you are working with primarily photography and are not an expert in graphics.

As a photographer, I took a course in the graphics aspects of Photoshop around 7 years back that concentrated a lot on using text in all sorts of ways in Photoshop. We had a textbook with all sorts of techniques that we had to duplicate. The photographic images were provided. We had to assemble the layout and do all the text manipulations. There is so much to this, it took a semester to go through it. To this day, I see all these effects everyday on the internet, in magazines, in books, on product packaging, on TV, in the movies and on and on it goes.

Here's my gallery of class assignments dealing with text and graphics. This could easily be done in Elements or Photoshop. Click on the first image, choose original size, then click next to go through the 32 class assignments:

Hope this gives you an idea of the possibilities of text and graphics,

John Ford
 


From: "hilarychill" <hilary.cheeley@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:49:03 AM
Subject: [photography_beginners] Re: Info

 

I think Ann is asking about watermarks on her photos...like "Ann's Images" or whatnot. I am interested in this question, too. What's the best program for playing around with fonts and graphics and then how do you layer that on your image (depends on the editing software, I suppose)?


#69351 From: Rusty Yonkers <therustycook@...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:43 am
Subject: Re: Re: Info
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I have a video tutorial for both Photoshop Elements and for Apple Aperture on my website http://www.onewiththecamera.com/ under the video tutorials section. The Photoshop Elements should also work for full Photoshop too (and be pretty close for programs like GIMP). 

Rusty
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On Jun 12, 2012, at 9:49 AM, hilarychill wrote:

 

I think Ann is asking about watermarks on her photos...like "Ann's Images" or whatnot. I am interested in this question, too. What's the best program for playing around with fonts and graphics and then how do you layer that on your image (depends on the editing software, I suppose)?



#69352 From: Tracy Rine <tracerdacer@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:52 am
Subject: (No subject)
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#69353 From: "Lora" <lorahall@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:11 pm
Subject: Intro
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1. What are your interests in photography?
I want to learn to take great pictures.  I love scrapbooking but my photos are really lacking sometimes
2. What kind of camera do you use?
I have a Canon EOS Rebel XS and a Canon Rebel G.  Both are film cameras
3. How long have you been interested in Photography?
I have been interested in photography for the past 6 years and only recently decided it is something that I want to pursue
4. Do you have photos online?  If so, please post a link, we want to see!
Yes, I do have some up at Fine Art America. http://lora-hall.fineartamerica.com
5. What do you expect to gain here?

Knowledge.  I want to learn about my cameras and how to use them to their fullest.

#69354 From: Jennifer Robb <jrobb321@...>
Date: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:56 pm
Subject: Computational Photography Article
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This is from MacWorld but probably has applications outside of those who use iPhones and Macs. 


#69355 From: Jennifer Robb <jrobb321@...>
Date: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:00 pm
Subject: Article on using your camera modes
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Discusses the different modes on many cameras in a way that I found easy to understand why I'd pick a certain mode over another for different applications:
http://www.macworld.com/article/1167179/mastering_your_cameras_many_exposure_modes.html#lsrc.nl_mwphoto_h_crawl

Jennifer Robb
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#69356 From: "The Kevin" <kevkem@...>
Date: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:24 pm
Subject: The new camera
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I haven't had time to really get to know my new Oly OM-D E-M5 very well, but
I've shot some imges.

Here's a typical flower picture:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinkemmerer/7188279375/

And here's a photo of an architectural miniature model made using the "art
mode" miniature, which is tyically used to make big things look small...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinkemmerer/

I like many things about this camera, but so far I'm not really escited
about hte image quality and there are several things that annoy me a lot.
I'm going to keep trying to make it a good match for me.

Kevin








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#69357 From: "Gerry-Jerry" <NaturistCamper@...>
Date: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: The new camera
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--- In photography_beginners@yahoogroups.com, "The Kevin" <kevkem@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't had time to really get to know my new Oly OM-D E-M5 very well, but
> I've shot some imges.
>
> Here's a typical flower picture:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinkemmerer/7188279375/
>
> And here's a photo of an architectural miniature model made using the "art
> mode" miniature, which is tyically used to make big things look small...
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinkemmerer/
>
> I like many things about this camera, but so far I'm not really escited
> about hte image quality and there are several things that annoy me a lot.
> I'm going to keep trying to make it a good match for me.
>

I've had mine for 7 weeks or so and after some learning the image quality is
outstanding as is the low light performance. Most credible review sites agree.

There are a tremendous number of settings which take tome to learn.

What issues are you having?

gerry

#69358 From: David Ore <davidore27@...>
Date: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:08 pm
Subject: Hello
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Hi my name is Dave,Iam a great lover of photography for years.It is now a hobby of mine.When I first started,I had a Praticka 35mm film,years later (now) I have a
Fuji film Finepix which I really do like.

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