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#30 From: "Millner" <hjmillner@...>
Date: Wed Nov 8, 2000 12:40 am
Subject: pleurothallid group
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for your reply.
I've read your postings to the Orchid Digest, over the weeks and read about
your Grobbii.  Its one of my better plants.  It has put up with neglect from
time to time, and has never yet failed to bloom.  I think there are several
very similar plants with slightly different flowers.  A friend of mine had
another plant with much longer flowers stems and bigger flowers. My plant
had smaller leaves and more flowers.

Does anyone have any experience of Pleurothallis hemirhoda?  Just recently
I've been asked about different forms of this plant, one or two of which may
or maynot be different species.  Anyone know anything about it? Or about the
very similar species Pleurothallis tentaculata?

Thanks for the answer Bob, it would be nice if a few more people answer and
this group gets going.
Best wishes to everyone
Helen

#29 From: bob_campoli@...
Date: Mon Nov 6, 2000 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: new member
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Hello Helen,  How are you?  My name is Bob and I belong to this list but, I
can't remember the last time I saw any posts to it.  I have only one Pleuro
... Pths. grobyi.  It is doing very well in my home.  It must be a warm
growing cultivar.   It grew and flowered profusely over the summer here in
Philadelphia, Pa USA.  Admittedly, we had few really hot days this year.
I've checked out your website many times.  It is very nice and informative.
It's funny ... I was checking out a retail orchid site which listed Pths.
grobyi without a picture but, also listed another Pths. whose flower looks
exactly like my plant.  I don't recall the name at the moment.  I've always
read that while there may be a color range for the flowers of Pths. grobyi,
they all sport spots or stripes.  My particular plant is a clear, pure
lemon yellow.
Oh, well .... I like it anyway.  :-)
Have a great day,
Happy Growing!
Bob Campoli

#28 From: hjmillner@...
Date: Sat Nov 4, 2000 11:46 pm
Subject: new member
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Hello to everyone,
I've just found this e-group and wondered who were subscribed to it.
I run the web page for the Pleurothallid Alliance UK and would be
very pleased to discuss culture/care of these orchids and swap photos
of them with anyone.
Best wishes
Helen Millner

#27 From: "Bob Campoli" <bob_campoli@...>
Date: Thu Sep 14, 2000 8:05 pm
Subject: Test - message has no content
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Looked anyway?  I don't think I'm receiving the posts to this group
so
I'm doing this as a test.
Thank you.
Bob

#26 From: "Bob Campoli" <bob_campoli@...>
Date: Thu Sep 14, 2000 7:59 pm
Subject: Re: Pleurothallis grobyi 'type'
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--- In pleurothallids@egroups.com, "Peggy Boncher" <TenRrose@a...>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have a miniature pleurothallid that came labeled as grobyi type.
> I'm almost certain it is not grobyi.  The leaves are 3/4 inch
paddle
> shaped.  The undersides of the leaves are spotted with purple.  The
> plant produces 5 inch flower spikes that hold several butter yellow
> bell like flowers that have 3 thin red stripes.  It is in bloom
now.

> Anybody got a guess?

Peggy, haave you tried Jay Phfal's orchid site?  He has a picture of
the P. grobyi flower.  I have what I believe to be P. grobyi.  It has
yellow flowers, 7 to 9 per spike about 5mm long.  The spike itself is
about 3" to 4" in length.  The leaves are about 1/4" to 3/8" in
length.  I am a windowsill grower and the small leaves may be due to
lower humidity ( 40% to 50% RH ).  Just a thought.
Bob Campoli - Philadelphia, Pa USA

#25 From: "Peggy Boncher" <TenRrose@...>
Date: Mon May 22, 2000 4:52 am
Subject: Pleurothallis grobyi 'type'
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Hello everyone,

I have a miniature pleurothallid that came labeled as grobyi type.
I'm almost certain it is not grobyi.  The leaves are 3/4 inch paddle
shaped.  The undersides of the leaves are spotted with purple.  The
plant produces 5 inch flower spikes that hold several butter yellow
bell like flowers that have 3 thin red stripes.  It is in bloom now.
Anybody got a guess?

#24 From: "Deni and Dale Borders" <denidale@...>
Date: Thu Mar 23, 2000 5:32 am
Subject: Masdevallia livingstoneana
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: I have a short question about this plant. Descriptions of it that I have
: read haven't said that its flowers are fragrant, but I've found that
: when the flowers are warm they have a very distinct sweet scent that
: reminds me of a very ripe melon. Anyone have similar experience with
: this plant? I ask because I have seen reports from different growers
: that differ as to whether the flowers of one and the same species of
: orchid have a scent.

The flowers of my Masdevallia livingstoneana are foul scented. The guests
that have smelled the flowers of my plant concur.

Dale

#23 From: Timothy Mallon <tmallon@...>
Date: Thu Mar 23, 2000 5:21 am
Subject: Masdevallia livingstoneana
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Hello all,

I have a short question about this plant. Descriptions of it that I have
read haven't said that its flowers are fragrant, but I've found that
when the flowers are warm they have a very distinct sweet scent that
reminds me of a very ripe melon. Anyone have similar experience with
this plant? I ask because I have seen reports from different growers
that differ as to whether the flowers of one and the same species of
orchid have a scent.

Thanks,

Tim

#22 From: TenRrose@...
Date: Wed Mar 22, 2000 2:51 pm
Subject: Re:
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I found only one lepanthes species (so far) that will tolerate low humidity
and will bloom repeatedly on old growths.  It is L. acuminata.  It has small
pink bell like flowers on the undersides of the leaves.  Another easy
'cousin' is Lepanthopsis astrophora 'Stalky'.  This plant blooms several
times a year and has deep purple flowers.

Peggy

#21 From: "Deni and Dale Borders" <denidale@...>
Date: Wed Mar 22, 2000 5:42 am
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: I've noticed that a Lepanthes and a Restrepia are putting out new leaves
: that are kinky or wrinkled. Does this mean that the humidity is too low
: or that they are not getting enough water? The plants are otherwise
: healthy and blooming.

I agree with Peggy, Tim. If possible, reduce the temperature in your growing
area. Reduced temps will increase the Relative Humidity and possibly more
closely coincide with the preferred habitat temperatures of lepanthes and
restrepia. Usually, pleated leaves aren't a sign of root loss, but of low
humidity. Don't expect your plants to 'expand' their pleated leaves, though.

Dale

#20 From: TenRrose@...
Date: Tue Mar 21, 2000 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: Kinky/wrinkled leaves
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It could be both.  I find if the humidity is low or I'm not watering enough,
the leaves will wrinkle.  This also happens to miltonias.

Peggy

<< From: tmallon@...

  I've noticed that a Lepanthes and a Restrepia are putting out new leaves
  that are kinky or wrinkled. Does this mean that the humidity is too low
  or that they are not getting enough water? The plants are otherwise
  healthy and blooming.

  TIA,

  Tim >>

#19 From: tmallon@...
Date: Tue Mar 21, 2000 4:49 am
Subject: Kinky/wrinkled leaves
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I've noticed that a Lepanthes and a Restrepia are putting out new leaves
that are kinky or wrinkled. Does this mean that the humidity is too low
or that they are not getting enough water? The plants are otherwise
healthy and blooming.

TIA,

Tim

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#18 From: "Dale Borders" <denidale@...>
Date: Sat Mar 11, 2000 6:14 am
Subject: Unknown dracula
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Anybody have a clue to the ID of the dracula illustrated in the file
link called dracsp.jpg?

#17 From: "Deni and Dale Borders" <denidale@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2000 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: Lepanthes peperomioides
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Subject: [pleurothallids] Lepanthes peperomioides


I got one of these at the SF show last weekend and am wondering whether
anyone has had experience with it. Is it the same as Lepanthes pilosella?
Orquideas del Valle was selling both as different species, and the blossoms
of the two don't look alike to me.

Hi Tim.

MOBOT http://mobot.mobot.org/Pick/Search/pick.html treats Lepanthes
peperomioides as a synonym of Lepanthes pilosella. I grow Lepanthes
pilosella in the cool room (50-70°F). It's on a horizontally positioned
piece of cork with a very thin mat of sphagnum under the plant. Constant
moisture and indirect light seem to suit it. If interested, email me for a
photo.

Dale   denidale@...

#16 From: "Timothy Mallon" <tmallon@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2000 4:53 am
Subject: Lepanthes peperomioides
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Hello all,
 
I got one of these at the SF show last weekend and am wondering whether anyone has had experience with it. Is it the same as Lepanthes pilosella? Orquideas del Valle was selling both as different species, and the blossoms of the two don't look alike to me.
 
Anyway, it is a curious little plant, single flowered, and creeping or dangling in habit, with alternating leaves on a long rhizome. I haven't been able to find out much information about it, though.
 
I also picked up: Lepanthes calodictyon, Trichosalpinx berlineri, and a little Platystele from Ecuador. All came up from South America essentially bare root, and I'm hoping they all make it.
 
Thanks in advance for any help,
 
Tim
 

#15 From: "Timothy Mallon" <tmallon@...>
Date: Sat Feb 19, 2000 4:41 am
Subject: Reminder - Pacific Orchid Exposition
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Hello everyone,

Just a reminder for all in San Francisco or visiting next weekend: the SF Orchid
Society's Pacific Orchid Exposition will be at Fort Mason 2/25-2/27.

For more information:
http://www.orchidsanfrancisco.com/

Tim


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Date: Sat Feb 19, 2000 4:22 am
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#13 From: p.wondergem@...
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2000 8:38 pm
Subject: RE: Porroglossum nutibara
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Hi Tim,

A great source of information (but no cultural information) on pleurothallids
are the Icones Pleurothallidinarum by Carl Luer. The Icones series consists of
17 volumes so far. Unfortunately some volumes are sold out. Volume 4 is on
Porroglossum (amongst others). On P. nutibara it says:
Species from the western Cordilleras in Colombia, collected at an altitude of
2050 m above sea level. The species is named after a local Indian chief. The
text in this book contains a description of the species and a black-and-white
drawing is included.

Bye,

Loes and Peter

#12 From: "Deni and Dale Borders" <denidale@...>
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2000 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: Porroglossum nutibara
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: I have just gotten my first Porroglossum (nutibara) and all I have been
able to find out about it on the Internet is that it was described by Luer
and Escobar in 1988. I'd be grateful for any information about this
particular plant or about Porroglossums in general.

Hi Tim.

I only have two porroglossums (aureum and muscosa) and they do very well in
cool temps (52-70). They remain constantly damp/wet. Low light. Porroglossum
nutibara is briefly treated in MOBOT.

Dale

#11 From: "Timothy Mallon" <tmallon@...>
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2000 4:22 am
Subject: Porroglossum nutibara
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Hello all,

I have just gotten my first Porroglossum (nutibara) and all I have been able to
find out about it on the Internet is that it was described by Luer and Escobar
in 1988. I'd be grateful for any information about this particular plant or
about Porroglossums in general.

To my eye, the plant is almost indistinguishable from a miniature Masdevallia.
It has two descending inflorescences that remind me of a Dracula's. Hopefully I
will be able to upload some photos when (if) it flowers. I have no idea what the
blossoms look like!

Tim

#10 From: "judy" <clarkelberry@...>
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2000 2:31 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4
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Dale,
It seems like immersion therapy, does not work with me either, the more I
get, the more I want!!     Judy

#9 From: "Deni and Dale Borders" <denidale@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2000 4:27 pm
Subject: Immersion therapy for orchid habit...
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Dale,
The Masddevallias that I got are; Masd. strobellii, Masd. rolfeana, and
Masd.barleana.
What is the 'immersion therapy' What Masd. do you have?
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Hi Judy

Immersion therapy roughly consists of immersing yourself in a bad habit or
phobia, thereby reducing the attractiveness or phobic quality. For orchids,
that means getting hundreds of them! Hasn't worked for me yet.
I have c. 115 masdevallia species and c. 25 hybrids, most with veitchiana as
one of the parents.

Dale

#8 From: "Timothy Mallon" <tmallon@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2000 5:56 am
Subject: Introduction
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Hello everyone.

It is good to see that this list is starting to take off!

I live in San Francisco, CA and all my plants are all growing on my windowsills.
I've found that Lepanthes really seem to like it here. My Lepanthes ovalis is
always in bloom, as well as Pleuro. schiedei, though the latter is complaining
about the constant dark weather we have been having lately (I don't use lights).
Masd. livingstoneana has lots of buds, but zahlbruckneri is moping. I have a new
Porroglossum and another Lepanthes coming in tomorrow.

Tim
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#7 From: TenRrose@...
Date: Fri Feb 11, 2000 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: Introduction
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Pleuros in bud and bloom:  Platystele densiflora, P. stenostachya, Restrepia
muscifera, Scaphosepalum breve and microdacylin, Masdevallia nidifica,
chontalensis and discoidea.

Peggy in WI

#6 From: p.wondergem@...
Date: Fri Feb 11, 2000 7:07 pm
Subject: Introduction
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Hi,

Two days ago we subscribed to this forum. We are Loes van Pelt and Peter
Wondergem and we're living in a village in the Netherlands. We are growing
orchids for three years now. Since we moved to our new house our collection is
growing rapidly. We have about 140 species and we keep them in our window-sills
and in our serre (is this a good english word??. Right now we are building a
greenhouse and we have plans to make an orchid-marsh in our garden. So the
number of orchids will probably keep growing.
About two third of our orchids are Pleurothallids of several genera. Most of
them are with us for less than one year, so we're no experts, yet. We hope to
learn a lot from you all and maybe we can be of help too, sometimes.

Flowering pleurothallids right now: Masdevallia tovarensis, Restrepia striata,
Trisetella sp (triglochlin?), Platystele multistellare, Pleurothallis
cordifolia, P. omoglossa, P. amabilis, P. palliolata, Condylago rodrigoi,
Scaphosepalum major and Scaphosepalum microdactylon.
(These names are what the labels say, but some of these names cannot be found in
Carl Luer's Pleurothallid bible)

Greetings,

Loes & Peter

#5 From: "judy" <clarkelberry@...>
Date: Fri Feb 11, 2000 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2
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> Judy, try 'immersion therapy'. It hasn't worked for me yet, but I don't
think I've been trying long enough.
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> Which masdevallias did you get?
>
> Dale

Dale,
The Masddevallias that I got are; Masd. strobellii, Masd. rolfeana, and
Masd.barleana.
What is the 'immersion therapy' What Masd. do you have?

Judy

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Date: Thu Feb 10, 2000 10:10 pm
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Hi Gang,

I'm new to this Onelist, but not to pleuros.  I like the small odd ones and I
have several platysteles.  I grow my plants down in my basement but I have
problems keeping my humidity high enough for draculas, so I don't have any of
those anymore.  :-(

Peggy

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Date: Fri Feb 11, 2000 2:40 am
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From: "judy" <clarkelberry@xxxxx.xxx>

................I have been growing other
orchids for just over a year and have been bitten very bad by the orchid
bug.              Judy
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Judy, try 'immersion therapy'. It hasn't worked for me yet, but I don't think
I've been trying long enough.

Which masdevallias did you get?

Dale

#2 From: "judy" <clarkelberry@...>
Date: Wed Feb 9, 2000 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 0
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Hi everyone,
    I am new to this group, and thought any news on Masd. or pleurothallids
would be of value to me as I just purchased three dirrerent masd. and have
one pleur. and don't know too much about them. I have been growing other
orchids for just over a year and have been bitten very bad by the orchid
bug.              Judy

#1 From: denidale@...
Date: Wed Feb 9, 2000 6:21 am
Subject: Introduction
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Hi Guys.

My name's Dale Borders. I live on the south Oregon Coast and I'm a masdevallia
species junkie. I've managed to keep several pleurothallis species alive over
the years as well.

Dale

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