Hello,

We are introducing a brand new project management software and would like to get your input on it. The product is called Erudition For Project Managers. This software has many distinctive features that allows it to stand out among top project management tools on the market today. We'd like to offer a free trial to the members of this group to try out the software and enjoy the benefits of its features.

Among the features are:

- Dashboard view to quickly track deadlines and budgets

- Managers can adjust staff skills and Erudition will automatically adjust the timeline for the affected project(s) accordingly

- Erudition is enterprise in scope allowing multiple departments or groups to work together seamlessly

- Managers can sponsor or propose a project

- Software will identify and suggest staff to the correct project tasks

- Erudition allows you set project thresholds

Find out what other features it has and benefits it holds for you today!

Please go to http://www.datavelocity.com/cgi-bin/createAccountfor a free trial account.

Or for more information on the Project Management tool, go to http://datavelocity.com/erudition/EPM/ for a product walk through.

Cheers,

-Melissa

Just posted some photos of my "down time" hobby. Building and having
fun with teardrops! I enjoy my R&R!

Just curious as to what others do with down time...?

Are you a senior project manager Or a recruiter looking for senior project managers? And a member of LinkedIn?

Remember, you need to be either of the following:

• an experienced¹ project manager, or
• a project manager who is certified by an internationally accepted certification body for project managers, or
• both.

Knowing the line is a must - jumping over it is a sin

--- In pmtr@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Schophuizen"
<frankschophuizen@...> wrote:
>
> What makes knowing the line a sin?
>
> Frank.
>

Before solving a problem - make sure it's yours

Never solve another person's/group's problem (especially if it's easy)

What makes knowing the line a sin?

Frank.

Sin #1
Know the line between your company and your client.  You can
occansionally do the hooky pooky by placing a foot over but that's it.

--- In pmtr@yahoogroups.com, "Meade Rubenstein" <meader_nj@...> wrote:
>
> It's been some time since we had a discussion about currently used PM
> tools. I'm still using MS Excel 99% of the time for all PM needs -
> making templates, etc.  Has anyone come across a cure all tool?
>

You might want to try Erudition for Project Managers by DataVelocity.
I believe you can request a free trial on thier site, if not send a
request to thier info address and they should set one up for you.
There has been word about them in the media and I believe they added
new functionality which they will be debuting at the NY C3 show in two
weeks.

Thier website is  htpp://datavelocity.com

It's been some time since we had a discussion about currently used PM
tools. I'm still using MS Excel 99% of the time for all PM needs -
making templates, etc.  Has anyone come across a cure all tool?

Thanks Darell

Excellent comparison.

Imtiyaz


--- In pmtr@yahoogroups.com, "Darrell Ross" <darrellross@...> wrote:
>
> Imtiyaz,
>
> I posted your question on another board, and here is the response:
>
> Hi Darrell,
> Suggest you check out the PMForum
>
http://www.pmforum.org/certification/Certifications_Compared2006.pdf
> site.
> For two years running, my graduate students have made a comparison
> of the
> major PM certification credentials.
>
> Please feel free to pass this along/share it with other boards.....
>
> BR,
> PDG, Jakarta
>
>
>
> --- In pmtr@yahoogroups.com, "imhussain123" <imhussain123@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > There are so many project management professional accredition
> institute
> > like PMI, IPMA, Prince2 etc. I am looking for any comparative
> study
> > done on there technique, course material, templates and processes
> etc...
> >
> > Your personal views are also welcomed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Imtiyaz
> >
>

Imtiyaz,

I posted your question on another board, and here is the response:

Hi Darrell,
Suggest you check out the PMForum
http://www.pmforum.org/certification/Certifications_Compared2006.pdf
site.
For two years running, my graduate students have made a comparison
of the
major PM certification credentials.

Please feel free to pass this along/share it with other boards.....

BR,
PDG, Jakarta



--- In pmtr@yahoogroups.com, "imhussain123" <imhussain123@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> There are so many project management professional accredition
institute
> like PMI, IPMA, Prince2 etc. I am looking for any comparative
study
> done on there technique, course material, templates and processes
etc...
>
> Your personal views are also welcomed.
>
> Thanks,
> Imtiyaz
>

Hi,
There are so many project management professional accredition institute
like PMI, IPMA, Prince2 etc. I am looking for any comparative study
done on there technique, course material, templates and processes etc...

Your personal views are also welcomed.

Thanks,
Imtiyaz

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I just completed another class (taking some certificate/masters
classes at Steven's Tech) - and an interesting topic was 'voice of the
customer' where you would track what the customer is asking for, the
priority, how it relates to an actual request (translation from
customer talk to developer talk) and how it will be addressed (if it
will be) - and example would be something like:
-------------------------------------------
Customer:  End User

Comment: 'I would like to be able to print historic transactions'

Priority: Medium

Request: Keep a rolling 13 month history of transactions and allow the
       customer to enter reporting date range - reporting at a monthly
level

Satisfied by: The current/planned reporting functionality for
transaction reporting supports this - we will review with the customer
once a test environment is in place.
-------------------------------------------
this would be in a spread sheet format with the info across and each
row a 'voice of the customer' request.

Has anyone used a tool to capture and track this info???

As you can tell the last message had nothing to do with Project Management - so
it
and the author have been removed.  How legit the author was I do not know.

Dear Jay

 

I am not sure if 'Primavera' development group would be interested to understake modification to help their user-organization to support their journey to achieve e.g. CMMI- L3 or L5 ?
 

Thanks & Regards Goyal
BE AN AMBASSADOR OF QUALITY
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----- Original Message ----
From: Jay Pancholi <pancholijay@...>
To: pmtr@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:53:37 PM
Subject: Re: [pmtr] Project Management Tool to support Implementation of CMMI-PAs-SPs/GPs

Hi Rakesh Chandra,

 

I was working with Primavera Vendors in India....worked with construction, mechanical and IT companies for implementing the Primavera software......

 

 

Which type of help u required?

 

Regards,

Jay

Rakesh Chandra Goyal <rakeshchandragoyal@...> wrote:

Dear Friends

I am currently involved in reviewing Project Management Tools (similar
to Pimavera) from Indian Vendors and suggest modification to enable
Project team to be guided/mandated (in compliance to CMMI) execution
of WBS-scheduled activities and to check-in Work-products (as result
of the activity)into designated folder of CM-library-structured in VSS
(also through the PM-tool).

Main efforts are to define (project-sopecific modified) detailed WBS
(via SDLC-based prestructured WBS-template) including reviews/audits
and Management-Reviews and Unit/Integration/System-Testing.

The workflow of task-type (design, coding, testing, reviews, audit)
would guide, mandate the doer of the activity to populate the
predefined template (for the desired work-product)  and/or log-in
defects/issues/NCs.

Attempt is to automate collection of DA/IA in project documentation
VSS-controlled folders and tracking the Plan/Actual-varaition of
schedule, efforts & defects(nrs) would enable measure and track the
project performance as well as process-capability against
organization-defined limts of varinace.

This to the extent doable & achieved would enable regular noticing the
gaps in implementation & proactive efforts for process improvemnts
since the violations  of variance-limit are notified to designated
management level to be addressed via CAR / DAR work-flow i.e.
identified stake holders are invited for review-meetings (scheduled
actvitity in WBS) and log-in decisions against preventive action plan
recommended  after analysing the resons recorded (by PM) for the
violation (of variance limits).

I request your critique and suggestions, which would provide me
'Improvement Opportunities'

Reagrds Goyal

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Dear Friends

I am currently involved in reviewing Project Management Tools (similar
to Pimavera) from Indian Vendors and suggest modification to enable
Project team to be guided/mandated (in compliance to CMMI) execution
of WBS-scheduled activities and to check-in Work-products (as result
of the activity)into designated folder of CM-library-structured in VSS
(also through the PM-tool).

Main efforts are to define (project-sopecific modified) detailed WBS
(via SDLC-based prestructured WBS-template) including reviews/audits
and Management-Reviews and Unit/Integration/System-Testing.

The workflow of task-type (design, coding, testing, reviews, audit)
would guide, mandate the doer of the activity to populate the
predefined template (for the desired work-product)  and/or log-in
defects/issues/NCs.

Attempt is to automate collection of DA/IA in project documentation
VSS-controlled folders and tracking the Plan/Actual-varaition of
schedule, efforts & defects(nrs) would enable measure and track the
project performance as well as process-capability against
organization-defined limts of varinace.

This to the extent doable & achieved would enable regular noticing the
gaps in implementation & proactive efforts for process improvemnts
since the violations  of variance-limit are notified to designated
management level to be addressed via CAR / DAR work-flow i.e.
identified stake holders are invited for review-meetings (scheduled
actvitity in WBS) and log-in decisions against preventive action plan
recommended  after analysing the resons recorded (by PM) for the
violation (of variance limits).

I request your critique and suggestions, which would provide me
'Improvement Opportunities'

Reagrds Goyal

Dear Friends

I am currently involved in reviewing Project Management Tools (similar
to Pimavera) from Indian Vendors and suggest modification to enable
Project team to be guided/mandated (in compliance to CMMI) execution
of WBS-scheduled activities and to check-in Work-products (as result
of the activity)into designated folder of CM-library-structured in VSS
(also through the PM-tool).

Main efforts are to define (project-sopecific modified) detailed WBS
(via SDLC-based prestructured WBS-template) including reviews/audits
and Management-Reviews and Unit/Integration/System-Testing.

The workflow of task-type (design, coding, testing, reviews, audit)
would guide, mandate the doer of the activity to populate the
predefined template (for the desired work-product)  and/or log-in
defects/issues/NCs.

Attempt is to automate collection of DA/IA in project documentation
VSS-controlled folders and tracking the Plan/Actual-varaition of
schedule, efforts & defects(nrs) would enable measure and track the
project performance as well as process-capability against
organization-defined limts of varinace.

This to the extent doable & achieved would enable regular noticing the
gaps in implementation & proactive efforts for process improvemnts
since the violations  of variance-limit are notified to designated
management level to be addressed via CAR / DAR work-flow i.e.
identified stake holders are invited for review-meetings (scheduled
actvitity in WBS) and log-in decisions against preventive action plan
recommended  after analysing the resons recorded (by PM) for the
violation (of variance limits).

I request your critique and suggestions, which would provide me
'Improvement Opportunities'

Reagrds Goyal

I think this tells something about why many PMs generally don't like
Agile projects. :-)

http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/02/07/managing_agile_projects/

(I am not endorsing this book, but just to give some thoughts on the
last discussion :-)   )

Do you really want extreme methodologies? I know  it is very effective, but for small teams and star programmers. It is  like shackling yourself to be a small organization - small teams, star  programmers (but not team players), politics, etc! Moreover, there is  no 'middle ground' in XP, you either do it or don't. When you leave out  certain processes, it is not XP anymore, right?
  
  While tools can take care of changing requirements - an iterative  development tool can be modified to suit XP, team politics alone would  ensure the failure of this in many cases.
  This is from the book "Case against XP" by Matt Stephens. http://www.softwarereality.com/lifecycle/xp/case_against_xp.jsp
  
  As the author/editor says, I firmly believe XP is not right for many cases, but that's just my opinion :-)
  
  
  
Meade Rubenstein <meader_nj@...> wrote:

         I'm a firm beliver in Agile/XP approachs and have found them very
  effective.  Short term deliverables are added, reprioritized, etc. -
  based on cost/benefit as determined by the stakeholders.  The project
  ends when $ run out or x% of benefit is realized or dramatic change in
  direction (company folds for example).  But what is used to track the
  ever changing goal(s)? and to show increasing/decreasing benefit
  trending as the project progresses.  For example as functionality is
  delivered the overall benefit of any new functionality could decrease
  based on the changing goal -- as more is provided it becomes less
  meaningful - not base on what is being delivered, but what the goal is
  changing into.  Agile provides the flexability to change and the goal
  value can be tracked - but is there a tool to handle both of these
  things?  
  
  -meade
  
  --- In pmtr@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Pukinskis" <Alex.Pukinskis@r...> wrote:
  >
  > That’s a great observation!  Using the tools most of us are familiar
  with,
  > it’s easy to lose sight of the business value, since there are so
  many tasks
  > to be tracked, and those tasks don’t always have intrinsic value on
  their
  > own.
  >
  > The intention of Agile Project Management is to focus tracking and
  project
  > management around small units of business value, not tasks.  Rather than
  > deliver projects in phases of tasks, the agile approach advocates
  producing
  > increments of business value every 1-4 weeks; in each of these short
  > iterations, we complete all phases of the project (analysis, design,
  > development, test, etc) for a small increment of business value.  
  We keep a
  > prioritized list of these small chunks of business value, and at the
  start
  > of each iteration, we select the highest-priority chunks to work on.
   Every
  > few weeks, we deliver some of the benefits promised by the goal of the
  > project.   Priorities of the other chunks lower down on the list can be
  > changed at any time to ensure we deliver the most business value we can.
  >
  > Tracking progress is a lot more effective with this approach,
  because you
  > can easily measure, every 1-4 weeks, exactly how much value you’ve
  > delivered.
  >
  > There are a lot of tools out there for doing this; many agile teams just
  > plan their projects with simple spreadsheets or even on index cards
  on the
  > wall (one chunk of functionality per card).  The company I work for
  produces
  > a web-based tool designed to help software teams keep track of business
  > value.  But to use a tool that’s effective at tracking real progress
  towards
  > a goal, you need to make this fundamental shift in how your project is
  > organized.   With phased development you never really know where things
  > stand, because you don’t really deliver any usable piece of the goal
  until
  > the end.  Working in smaller chunks helps you get around this.
  >
  > -Alex
  >
  > --
  > Alex Pukinskis - Agile Coach
  > Rally Software Development
  > http://rallydev.com/
  > 303.565.2846
  >
  >
  >
  > On 01 27 2006 6:49 AM, "Meade Rubenstein" <meader_nj@y...> wrote:
  >
  > > Often the focus of a project is changed from the goal - such as better
  > > customer service, reduced costs, increased performance, etc - to the
  > > delivery of the tasks.  These tasks are those that are 'guessed' at
  > > during the project definition phase and in many cases become etched in
  > > stone.  This often results in projects being delivered 'successfully'
  > > but without meeting hope for benefits (which could change over the
  > > course of the project).  Has anyone had any experience with a PM tool
  > > that focuses on the goal and set's diviations to it instead of
  > > predefined tasks, value, costs, etc.?? Is such as tool possible?
  > >
  > > -meade
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I'm a firm beliver in Agile/XP approachs and have found them very
effective.  Short term deliverables are added, reprioritized, etc. -
based on cost/benefit as determined by the stakeholders.  The project
ends when $ run out or x% of benefit is realized or dramatic change in
direction (company folds for example).  But what is used to track the
ever changing goal(s)? and to show increasing/decreasing benefit
trending as the project progresses.  For example as functionality is
delivered the overall benefit of any new functionality could decrease
based on the changing goal -- as more is provided it becomes less
meaningful - not base on what is being delivered, but what the goal is
changing into.  Agile provides the flexability to change and the goal
value can be tracked - but is there a tool to handle both of these
things?

-meade

--- In pmtr@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Pukinskis" <Alex.Pukinskis@r...> wrote:
>
> Thatıs a great observation!  Using the tools most of us are familiar
with,
> itıs easy to lose sight of the business value, since there are so
many tasks
> to be tracked, and those tasks donıt always have intrinsic value on
their
> own.
>
> The intention of Agile Project Management is to focus tracking and
project
> management around small units of business value, not tasks.  Rather than
> deliver projects in phases of tasks, the agile approach advocates
producing
> increments of business value every 1-4 weeks; in each of these short
> iterations, we complete all phases of the project (analysis, design,
> development, test, etc) for a small increment of business value.
We keep a
> prioritized list of these small chunks of business value, and at the
start
> of each iteration, we select the highest-priority chunks to work on.
  Every
> few weeks, we deliver some of the benefits promised by the goal of the
> project.   Priorities of the other chunks lower down on the list can be
> changed at any time to ensure we deliver the most business value we can.
>
> Tracking progress is a lot more effective with this approach,
because you
> can easily measure, every 1-4 weeks, exactly how much value youıve
> delivered.
>
> There are a lot of tools out there for doing this; many agile teams just
> plan their projects with simple spreadsheets or even on index cards
on the
> wall (one chunk of functionality per card).  The company I work for
produces
> a web-based tool designed to help software teams keep track of business
> value.  But to use a tool thatıs effective at tracking real progress
towards
> a goal, you need to make this fundamental shift in how your project is
> organized.   With phased development you never really know where things
> stand, because you donıt really deliver any usable piece of the goal
until
> the end.  Working in smaller chunks helps you get around this.
>
> -Alex
>
> --
> Alex Pukinskis - Agile Coach
> Rally Software Development
> http://rallydev.com/
> 303.565.2846
>
>
>
> On 01 27 2006 6:49 AM, "Meade Rubenstein" <meader_nj@y...> wrote:
>
> > Often the focus of a project is changed from the goal - such as better
> > customer service, reduced costs, increased performance, etc - to the
> > delivery of the tasks.  These tasks are those that are 'guessed' at
> > during the project definition phase and in many cases become etched in
> > stone.  This often results in projects being delivered 'successfully'
> > but without meeting hope for benefits (which could change over the
> > course of the project).  Has anyone had any experience with a PM tool
> > that focuses on the goal and set's diviations to it instead of
> > predefined tasks, value, costs, etc.?? Is such as tool possible?
> >
> > -meade
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Often the focus of a project is changed from the goal - such as better
customer service, reduced costs, increased performance, etc - to the
delivery of the tasks.  These tasks are those that are 'guessed' at
during the project definition phase and in many cases become etched in
stone.  This often results in projects being delivered 'successfully'
but without meeting hope for benefits (which could change over the
course of the project).  Has anyone had any experience with a PM tool
that focuses on the goal and set's diviations to it instead of
predefined tasks, value, costs, etc.?? Is such as tool possible?

-meade




 
 

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Often the focus of a project is changed from the goal - such as better
customer service, reduced costs, increased performance, etc - to the
delivery of the tasks.  These tasks are those that are 'guessed' at
during the project definition phase and in many cases become etched in
stone.  This often results in projects being delivered 'successfully'
but without meeting hope for benefits (which could change over the
course of the project).  Has anyone had any experience with a PM tool
that focuses on the goal and set's diviations to it instead of
predefined tasks, value, costs, etc.?? Is such as tool possible?

-meade

I've been using PersonalBrain from TheBrain
Technologies Corp (www.thebrain.com) for many years.
It's a package where you can define a network of nodes
which are interconnected in 3 directions: up, down and
sideways.

I use it to connect subjects (e.g. technologies,
methodologies, tools, interests), companies and
people, both for my professional life as for my
private life. Per node you can add notes, a URL or an
application. Changing relationships is just a matter
of drag-n-drop.

Well, it's a bit of extra work to keep it fully
up-to-day (I wish Outlook would allow me to do that
for the contact list), but you don't have to put in
everything, only what you think may be useful for the
future.
Anyway, it gives me a pretty good picture for
communication, and now and then I discover that people
are related to me in unexpected ways.

Frank.


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>-- Original Message --
>To: pmtr@yahoogroups.com
>From: Paul Hodgetts <phodgetts@...>
>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:49:03 -0800
>Subject: [pmtr] Re: Project Management Graphics
>Reply-To: pmtr@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>Brian Furman asked:
>
> > I'd like to get a PDF of this. Do you have a PayPal account
> > where we send the fee? :-)
>
>After Glen Alleman wrote:
>
> > I have a PDF of this if anyone is  interested, or you can
> > order it for a small fee
>
>There's a "Printable Version" button right above the graphic
>at Glen's link ( http://akss.dau.mil/ifc/index.htm ) that
>leads to a 34" by 22" downloadable PDF version at no cost.
>The purchase information for printed copies is also on that
>page.
>
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