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My $0.02 for WMA and AAC support   Message List  
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[pockettunes] Pocket Tunes 3.0 (WAS: My $0.02 for WMA and AAC support)

> WMA support could probably be added realtivly easily
> assuming the licensing fee isn't huge.

You picked a good time to bring this up, as I was just about to leak a few
details about Pocket Tunes 3.0.

Disclaimer: Please note that this is an unofficial announcement; our plans
may change, or be delayed, or we may run into problems that cause us to
cancel these plans. But I wanted to keep everyone informed as to our
current roadmap.

We have a ton of great changes planned for Pocket Tunes 3.0, which is
tentatively scheduled for release around June. One of the big features
we're planning is support for WMA files. We have this mostly working
internally, and we're just putting the finishing touches on.

What I think is even more exciting, though, are our plans to support
protected WMA files from downloadable music stores such as Napster 2,
BuyMusic, etc. We should be able to support WMA downloads from any music
store that allows their music to be transferred to a portable device. (You
will need to have Windows to use this; sorry Mac and Linux folks - we
haven't had the bandwidth to look into other platforms yet...)

We don't have the protected piece working yet, but we're working on it. I'm
fairly confident we can get it working, but I'm not going to make any
promises just yet. There's a small chance that we won't be able to figure
it out.

We're also working on a desktop interface, which will likely be integrated
with Windows Media Player. This should make it much easier to install music
to your Palm. This desktop interface will be required for installing
protected WMA files, due to the way that portable device authorization
works. The desktop will be optional for unprotected audio formats.

In case you're wondering: Yes, of course this is all being done
legitimately; we've got all the necessary licenses from Microsoft.

Upgrades:

We want to be fair about our upgrade policy. At the same time, we need to
be able to pay for our additional licensing and development expenses for the
3.0 release. Our current policy looks like this (this is a draft; we
reserve the right to change this without notice prior to the 3.0 release):

- WMA support will be part of the Deluxe version.

- If you have an unlimited upgrade registration code (starts with "ptx"),
then Pocket Tunes Deluxe 3.0 will be a free upgrade for you. (These
registration codes were sold as a special promotion for a limited time when
2.0 came out.)

- We don't want recent customers to feel like they're getting a bad deal
because of an upgrade shortly after they purchased the current version. So,
if you purchased Pocket Tunes on or after 3/27/04, you will receive a free
upgrade to Pocket Tunes 3.0. (If you purchased Pocket Tunes 2 Basic, you
will get Pocket Tunes 3 Basic. If you purchased Pocket Tunes 2 Deluxe, you
will get Pocket Tunes 3 Deluxe. The free version that comes with the Treo
600 is not eligible for this free upgrade.)

- Otherwise, if you've purchased a past version of Pocket Tunes, you will be
eligible for a reduced price on the new version. We haven't yet determined
the prices, but rest assured that you will get a nice discount.

We think this is a very fair upgrade policy, especially for those of you who
purchased Pocket Tunes for $5 in 2002 and have had free upgrades ever since.
:)

If you have any comments or questions, feel free to post them on this group
or send us an email!

Take care,
Tim Norman
NormSoft, Inc.





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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:12:19 -0800 in 200403281112.19915.jkelleher@... Jim Kelleher <jkelleher@...> ... Quite. ... I have to confess I'd like to see a...
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... No, not at all. Windows will only be required for protected WMA files. For all other audio files, you can continue to use Linux or Macintosh as you do ...
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:49:56 -0500 ... Don't sweat it, Tim - at least you acknowledge that we exist.. But I guess this goes to show just why so many of us...
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... I have to agree here completely. One of the things I liked about both Pocket Tunes and AeroPlayer when they came out was the support for Ogg Vorbis, the...
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... I should have added that I don't know what DRM is. I was just talking in general about companies having to protect themselves from pirates. I might think...
Brenda
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... See the link I posted earlier. :-) It covers DRM in depth. Basically, it's a way to allow companies to make an end-run around the law to have their cake...
Larry Garfield
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Mar 29, 2004
7:11 am

... This makes sense to me too. I'm not interested in using WMA, and have no desire to pay money to MS to get support for this format. Cheers, Chris...
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Mar 29, 2004
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:04:58 -0800 in E1B7qog-0002QA-00@... Brenda ... Digital Rights Management. In other words, "We the entertainment...
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... Well the thing is... I agree with most of those statements. I think the average person sees nothing wrong with copying a CD, giving copies to all their...
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... Curious, since Ogg is the one that costs nothing to support in the first place. :-) Is it a space issue? ... This does not surprise me in the slightest....
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... Yes, it's a space issue, and it gives us an excuse to clean up and improve the Ogg code. There are a large number of people who don't use Ogg, so I think...
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... Thank you then. I am one of the "Love Ogg" folks... ... JIm TE -- I think the end of times is upon us... The French and Germans are agreeing and so are the...
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... And I am one of them. Hi...new here. Invited by Gerald after we dealt with a tech support issue. I'll echo others' sentiments--Normsoft is more...
Tory Larson
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Mar 30, 2004
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... And I second that. Tim and Co. has been very responsive to his customers wants/needs/concerns However, with the penetration of WMA technology in the ...
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