On Thursday, September 1, 2005, at 12:12:22 AM, paul wrote:

> --- Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> wrote:
>> Thanks ... I see no point to the mixer myself, as it looks like I
>> can do most things in post, though I would like it if I could
>> just set and forget the EQ and balance.

> Exactly. You have what you have, so use it. The iriver
> aint a bad little device for what it can do. Should of
> bought one myself. I just hit record, and let the
> tools I have do their respective tasks.

> ...
> The right tool for the right job. You need
> portability, ease of use, functionality, and quality
> in one box. And you already know your options there.

> The recording equipment industry has not caught on to
> podcasting yet, but they are aware of it. I have
> already spoken to one company about a podcasters
> needs, and hope something will come of it. It takes
> quite some time to research, develop, and create a new
> product, so we have to use what they have right now.

> Hope this helps.

Yes ... I appreciate your insights and straight shooting. I try to
do that in my own realm. And I also appreciate the value of your
"big picture" and your willingness to roam around in the space of
what one might do. I try to do that as well.

Thanks,

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
He who will not apply new remedies must expect old evils.  -- Francis Bacon

On Thursday, September 1, 2005, at 12:52:11 AM, Joe Blow wrote:


> I bought the Yamaha MG8/2 which is reasonably priced with great
> mic pre-amps...but this is just my opinion (everyone has one). In
> that vein, try going to harmonycentral.com or zzounds.com where
> people who have bought mics / recorders etc... rate the products
> preformance. Lots of info there.

Yes, I've been doing that, usually springing off of some link
someone here has suggested.

It's clear that equipment is yet another rat hole that one could go
down. Like the rest of the web, what really matters in podcasting,
surely, is content, content, content. I'm trying to remember that.

And the toys are fun, too.

Thanks,

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
The important thing is to not stop questioning. --Albert Einstein

On Thursday, September 1, 2005, at 1:53:58 AM, Chris Cochran wrote:

> Tascam has a couple of portable recorders Pocket Studio they are called.
> They will do all that you want them to and to it in MP3 format. They
> discontinued a couple that are really nice and can be had for less than $300
> on line.  The one I use even has a built in mixer, limiter, etc. It will
> take line level, if you use a DI box or transducers.  It sounds like what
> you are looking for.

> Here¹s the one I use:
> http://www.tascam.com/Products/PocketStudio5.html

> Works great.

> But I agree with paul...if what you have is working...IF IT AINT BROKE...you
> know the rest.

Yes ... I appreciate the product ideas ... and the guidance. One of
the I like to try to raise my level in a new area is to try to get a
sense of the next stages. It's risky, because I can run off getting
new toys without really getting any better at the basics. But it has
worked reasonably well for me so far. I like to look at where I
might go later ... and certainly right now the mechanics of
producing the 'cast are rough enough that they're getting in the
way.

Slowly but surely. Software is the main thing right now. It's coming
down to Audacity, which will surely do the job I need it to, and
Adobe Audition, which is growing on me as I learn its ten thousand
buttons, knobs, and dials.

Thanks for the thoughts!

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
It is not the strongest of the species that survive, not the most
intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.  --Charles Darwin

On Thursday, September 1, 2005, at 1:53:58 AM, Chris Cochran wrote:

> Tascam has a couple of portable recorders Pocket Studio they are called.
> They will do all that you want them to and to it in MP3 format. They
> discontinued a couple that are really nice and can be had for less than $300
> on line.  The one I use even has a built in mixer, limiter, etc. It will
> take line level, if you use a DI box or transducers.  It sounds like what
> you are looking for.

I did check them out and they look cool. It appears that TASCAM has
abandoned that market. Not that it matters, if the recorders work
well, I guess it doesn't matter but I do wonder ...

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
The model that really matters is the one that people have in
their minds.  All other models and documentation exist only to
get the right model into the right mind at the right time.
   -- Paul Oldfield

hello,

I am totally new to podcasting. I have downloaded Audacity. It seems
that I can record, but I cannot play back. I get the following error
message:

Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device
settings and the project sample rate.

I am using a USB Plantronics headset.



Where should I start troubleshooting?

Thanks in advance,

Stephanie Booth

--
This e-mail was dictated using iListen and may contain recognition errors.
http://climbtothestars.org -- http://stephanie-booth.com --
http://flickr.com/photos/bunny

Stephanie,

I'm also new, and using a Plantronics headset with Audacity on OSX! :)

First, make certain you've plugged your headset into a powered USB port; i.e. a
port on the
Mac itself, and not on the keyboard. (I'll guess this isn't a problem, though,
as you say you
can record.)

First off, what is your Mac set up - model Mac, OSX version, etc.?

In the Audacity preferences, check the Audio I/O settings. The playback device
menu
should say Plantronics headset; so should the input device menu. This will allow
you to
hear your playback through the headset.

As for project sample rate, I've just been using the default settings of 44100
Hz and 32-
bit float. I have no clue what that means. I haven't yet gotten to the point of
resampling for
final podcast, as I'm still recording basic tracks.

Now, are you trying to export to MP3 in order to listen to your work? If so, you
need to
download the free LAME library extension (also available through the Audacity
website).

Hope this helps; I've pretty much told you what little I know.

tim


--- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "tara_oh_hell_what_now" <tellme@c...> wrote:
>  hello,
>
> I am totally new to podcasting. I have downloaded Audacity. It seems
> that I can record, but I cannot play back. I get the following error
> message:
>
> Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device
> settings and the project sample rate.
>
> I am using a USB Plantronics headset.
>
>
>
> Where should I start troubleshooting?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Stephanie Booth
>
> --
> This e-mail was dictated using iListen and may contain recognition errors.
> http://climbtothestars.org -- http://stephanie-booth.com --
> http://flickr.com/photos/bunny

--- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "tara_oh_hell_what_now"
<tellme@c...> wrote:
>  hello,
>
> I am totally new to podcasting. I have downloaded Audacity. It seems
> that I can record, but I cannot play back. I get the following error
> message:
>
> Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device
> settings and the project sample rate.
>
> I am using a USB Plantronics headset.
>
>
>
> Where should I start troubleshooting?


Hi Stephanie,

I'm afraid that the current release of Audacity is not compatible with
MacOS X Tiger.  Since you are new to podcasting, I'd suggest you try
to learn Garageband 2.  Apple has a bit on this here:
http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/

You could always fall back to Panther on another volume for recording,
as some of us do, where Audacity works fine.  If you go this route,
I'd also suggest you export as WAV from Audacity and not use their
LAME mp3 export.  I have had bad luck with that; WAV to mp3 and/or aac
in iTunes gives you much better sound quality IMHO.

Good luck,
--
Tim Elliott
Winecast

Off hand, I don't know what it might be.  If you'd like to iChat or
Skype me, I'll be happy to trouble shoot with you?

iChat or Skype: PalmMagnate.

Best,
Phillip

On 9/1/05, tara_oh_hell_what_now <tellme@...> wrote:
>  hello,
>
> I am totally new to podcasting. I have downloaded Audacity. It seems
> that I can record, but I cannot play back. I get the following error
> message:
>
> Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device
> settings and the project sample rate.
>
> I am using a USB Plantronics headset.
>
>
>
> Where should I start troubleshooting?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Stephanie Booth
>
> --
> This e-mail was dictated using iListen and may contain recognition errors.
> http://climbtothestars.org -- http://stephanie-booth.com --
> http://flickr.com/photos/bunny
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
______\\\\////________
Phillip J. Zannini
Host: MacPhilly Almost Live
Author:  A Mac Eye for the Windows Guy (c)
RSS: feeds.feedburner.com/MacPhilly
http://macphilly.com/

Ah, I guess I won't need to. :-)

On 9/1/05, Phillip (MacPhilly) Zannini <phillymac@...> wrote:
> Off hand, I don't know what it might be.  If you'd like to iChat or
> Skype me, I'll be happy to trouble shoot with you?
>
> iChat or Skype: PalmMagnate.
>
> Best,
> Phillip
>
> On 9/1/05, tara_oh_hell_what_now <tellme@...> wrote:
> >  hello,
> >
> > I am totally new to podcasting. I have downloaded Audacity. It seems
> > that I can record, but I cannot play back. I get the following error
> > message:
> >
> > Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device
> > settings and the project sample rate.
> >
> > I am using a USB Plantronics headset.
> >
> >
> >
> > Where should I start troubleshooting?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Stephanie Booth
> >
> > --
> > This e-mail was dictated using iListen and may contain recognition errors.
> > http://climbtothestars.org -- http://stephanie-booth.com --
> > http://flickr.com/photos/bunny
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> ______\\\\////________
> Phillip J. Zannini
> Host: MacPhilly Almost Live
> Author:  A Mac Eye for the Windows Guy (c)
> RSS: feeds.feedburner.com/MacPhilly
> http://macphilly.com/
>


--
______\\\\////________
Phillip J. Zannini
Host: MacPhilly Almost Live
Author:  A Mac Eye for the Windows Guy (c)
RSS: feeds.feedburner.com/MacPhilly
http://macphilly.com/

On 9/1/05, Tim Elliott <twelliott@...> wrote:
>
> I'm afraid that the current release of Audacity is not compatible with
> MacOS X Tiger.  Since you are new to podcasting, I'd suggest you try
> to learn Garageband 2.  Apple has a bit on this here:
> http://www.apple.com/support/garageband/podcasts/

Clarification: Audacity does mostly work under Tiger; I've been using
it for months now and it does everything I need.  Early on I ran into
the same problem Stephanie did, that it has trouble outputting through
a USB device, but that's the only broken thing I've seen.  If you
listen through other headphones it all works fine.



> You could always fall back to Panther on another volume for recording,
> as some of us do, where Audacity works fine.  If you go this route,
> I'd also suggest you export as WAV from Audacity and not use their
> LAME mp3 export.  I have had bad luck with that; WAV to mp3 and/or aac
> in iTunes gives you much better sound quality IMHO.

I don't think it uses ideal LAME settings.  What I do is export to
AIFF and then run LAME from the command line.

--
Have Fun,
    Steve Eley (sfeley@...)
    ESCAPE POD - the SF podcast magazine
    http://escape.extraneous.org

I've been having a bit of trouble with this myself. iTunes picked up my
original feed with 8 episodes very quickly. That was last week. Then on
Monday I added another episode using a new item tag. Zilch. It's not
showing up. I'm a little concerned that the feed might not be valid
because I have some special characters that I had to code starting with
an ampersand, though I don't see why that should be a problem.

The feed is at http://www.writingshow.com/Feeds/feed.mrss.xml.

BTW, when you say you can put 10 to 15 episodes in a feed, are you
saying you have to start a new feed after that?

Thanks!

Paula Berinstein
The Writing Show, where writing is always the story
www.writingshow.com

> > You will end it with the xml ending. I'm fairly new to podcasting
> > myself. I use a Mac and I found a great easy to use program that does
> > all the xml coding called "Feeder"
> > http://www.reinventedsoftware.com/ Yes I had to pay for it, but it is
> > well worth the money if you don't want to spend time with code.
>
> Thanks to an e-mail I got from Rob at podcast411, I now have a pretyyu
> good idea of how all this stuff works. I'm using notepad to do my
> editing, I'm sure if you took the time it would work for you to.
>
> As for the second episode thing, it has everything to do with the
> items tag. For each episode of your podcast you want in your feed you
> need to give it another item tag in the same feed. Of you created a
> whole new feed for the second episode, it will never find it's way to
> the places the first episode went to. You can put between 10 to 15
> items (episodes) into your xml feed. iTunes and other aggregators go
> out on a daily basis and looks at the xml file to see if it's been
> changed. If it has, it downloads the newest episode for people who
> have subscribed.
>
> I did it, and it's working awesome so far. I've already got a Podcast
> on iTunes, and I started looking into how to do this around Friday
> night. My show is the Amazing Customs Podcast, a how-to for
> customizing action figures. The feed is:
> http://www.amazingcustoms.com/feed.xml
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> -Jimmy
>
>
>

I just saw this page and thought I'd share since I know so many members of
the Podcasting community are trying to assist with the relief effort.

http://www.redcross.org/psa/bannerorder/all/


C.C. Chapman
Host & Producer, Accident Hash <http://www.accidenthash.com/>
Manager, Podshow Podsafe <http://www.podsafemusicnetwork.com/>  Music
Network



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thanks for sharing this

noe

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>
> http://www.redcross.org/psa/bannerorder/all/
>
>
> C.C. Chapman
> Host & Producer, Accident Hash <http://www.accidenthash.com/>
> Manager, Podshow Podsafe <http://www.podsafemusicnetwork.com/> Music
> Network
>
>
>
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On Sep 1, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Paula Berinstein wrote:

> I've been having a bit of trouble with this myself. iTunes picked
> up my
> original feed with 8 episodes very quickly. That was last week.
> Then on
> Monday I added another episode using a new item tag. Zilch. It's not
> showing up. I'm a little concerned that the feed might not be valid
> because I have some special characters that I had to code starting
> with
> an ampersand, though I don't see why that should be a problem.

Feed Validator sez:

http://feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%
2Fwww.writingshow.com%2FFeeds%2Ffeed.mrss.xml

In the line that reads:

Because you don't always have time to listen

you need to change the apostrophe from a smart quote to a straight
quote. It's encoded wrong.

> The feed is at http://www.writingshow.com/Feeds/feed.mrss.xml.
>
> BTW, when you say you can put 10 to 15 episodes in a feed, are you
> saying you have to start a new feed after that?

Usually, the RSS generation script attached to any given blogging app
will only display the n most recent entries, so older ones will fall
off automagically.

-
m

On 9/1/05, Paula Berinstein <pberinstein@...> wrote:
> I've been having a bit of trouble with this myself. iTunes picked up my
> original feed with 8 episodes very quickly. That was last week. Then on
> Monday I added another episode using a new item tag. Zilch. It's not
> showing up. I'm a little concerned that the feed might not be valid
> because I have some special characters that I had to code starting with
> an ampersand, though I don't see why that should be a problem.
>
> The feed is at http://www.writingshow.com/Feeds/feed.mrss.xml.

I just ran your feed through http://www.feedvalidator.org and got two
errors: one indicating that your feed's character encoding was UTF-8
while your server was reporting US-ASCII, and one indicating that you
had a bad character on line 236.  (Looks like a funky apostrophe
character.  Replace it with a regular single quote and you might be
fine.)

Good luck!


> BTW, when you say you can put 10 to 15 episodes in a feed, are you
> saying you have to start a new feed after that?

No.  Absolutely not.  Everybody links to your feed URL, so changing it
would break everybody's subscriptions.

The "10 to 15" thing is somebody's idea of a rough guideline on how
many items a feed should have; it's not enforced anywhere.  (My own
feed size is 20 items.)  Once your feed is at whatever size you think
is right, then every time you add a new item you rotate out the oldest
one.

You're using Wordpress, right?  It should handle your feed for you
automatically.  You can set the feed size in the "Options | Reading"
screen.  Once you've got it set you shouldn't have to worry about it
again.

--
Have Fun,
    Steve Eley (sfeley@...)
    ESCAPE POD - the SF podcast magazine
    http://escape.extraneous.org

On 9/1/05, C.C. Chapman <cc@...> wrote:
> I just saw this page and thought I'd share since I know so many members of
> the Podcasting community are trying to assist with the relief effort.
>
> http://www.redcross.org/psa/bannerorder/all/

Page isn't loading for me; the Red Cross site must be getting slammed.
  I made my own icon last night just by grabbing the main Red Cross
page banner and cropping out the cross and name.

For the next week, Escape Pod is closed to donations; I'm urging all
of my listeners to send their money to the Red Cross instead.  I've
taken down my PayPal link and substituted the Red Cross link.
Skepticality is doing the same.  I'd like to recommend this idea to
all of you who regularly take donations, for whatever time period you
feel is appropriate.  There are people right now who need the money
more than you do, and you have uncommon influence to persuade your
listeners to give.

--
Have Fun,
    Steve Eley (sfeley@...)
    ESCAPE POD - the SF podcast magazine
    http://escape.extraneous.org

Thank you. Will install these on numerous sites.
www.manited.net

Clinton Meyer

----- Original Message -----
From: "C.C. Chapman" <cc@...>
To: <podcasters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: [podcasters] Red Cross Banners


>I just saw this page and thought I'd share since I know so many members of
> the Podcasting community are trying to assist with the relief effort.
>
> http://www.redcross.org/psa/bannerorder/all/
>
>
> C.C. Chapman
> Host & Producer, Accident Hash <http://www.accidenthash.com/>
> Manager, Podshow Podsafe <http://www.podsafemusicnetwork.com/>  Music
> Network
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks a lot to everybody who replied. It's indeed ok if I choose
something else than my USB headset as output.

Soon to be podcasting (when my classes are ready)

Steph

On 8/31/05, thesoundofyoungamerica <thesoundofyoungamerica@...> wrote:
> A nice implementation, I think.  NPR programs aren't podcasting in
> full, since that would piss off local stations to no end.

That must also be why Marketplace still isn't on the list.
(Naturally, the show I'm most interested in...)


--
Have Fun,
    Steve Eley (sfeley@...)
    ESCAPE POD - the SF podcast magazine
    http://escape.extraneous.org

Just got my complementary copy of Jack Herrington's Podcasting Hacks
and it looks really good - and I'm chuffed to get my name in print at
last! (Well only one little hack on making mashups, but it pleases me :-D

The nature of these things is you just work on your bit, but I didn't
know that such contributors were Craig Pratchett, Brian Ibbott,
Michael Geohegan and Phil Torrone (maybe the last one wasn't so much
of a surprise ;-) and loads of others (Jay Allison rings a bell too)
were involved...even got a forward from Dan Gillmor. It seems a real
community effort actually. I can't actually work out why I'm there LOL.

Looks pretty good actually...(no they are not paying me. Actually I
had to do the work...hold on...they should be paying me for this! :-P)
I'm just chuffed that it's out - gonna read it on my trip to USA.

Tim

Stephen Eley wrote:

> On 8/31/05, thesoundofyoungamerica <thesoundofyoungamerica@...>
> wrote:
> > A nice implementation, I think.  NPR programs aren't podcasting in
> > full, since that would piss off local stations to no end.
>
> That must also be why Marketplace still isn't on the list.
> (Naturally, the show I'm most interested in...)

The patchwork of program sources also comes into play. Much of what
listeners consider "NPR" is actually a locally blended combination of
programming from NPR-proper, PRI, American Public Media, individual
public radio stations, etc. As such, NPR doesn't actually have
permissions or ownership over much of what gets considered "NPR".

--
J Wynia
The Glass is Too Big
http://www.wynia.org
j@...

>
> I just ran your feed through http://www.feedvalidator.org and got two
> errors: one indicating that your feed's character encoding was UTF-8
> while your server was reporting US-ASCII, and one indicating that you
> had a bad character on line 236.  (Looks like a funky apostrophe
> character.  Replace it with a regular single quote and you might be
> fine.)
>
>
Thanks, Steve. You know, that happened the other day when I had an
invalid character, and when I fixed it, the error went away. It's not
that I'm using the wrong encoding, it's that the other error makes the
validator think that. I'll fix the apostrophe. The only thing I don't
understand is that I thought you could use any character within a CDATA
field. If that's true, why is it complaining?

>
> > BTW, when you say you can put 10 to 15 episodes in a feed, are you
> > saying you have to start a new feed after that?
>
> No.  Absolutely not.  Everybody links to your feed URL, so changing it
> would break everybody's subscriptions.
>
> The "10 to 15" thing is somebody's idea of a rough guideline on how
> many items a feed should have; it's not enforced anywhere.  (My own
> feed size is 20 items.)  Once your feed is at whatever size you think
> is right, then every time you add a new item you rotate out the oldest
> one.
>
> You're using Wordpress, right?  It should handle your feed for you
> automatically.  You can set the feed size in the "Options | Reading"
> screen.  Once you've got it set you shouldn't have to worry about itagain.
>
> --
> Have Fun,
>    Steve Eley (sfeley@...)
>    ESCAPE POD - the SF podcast magazine

Yes, I'm using Wordpress now, although I'm going to be using some custom
code later on.

Thanks for the great info!!

Best,
Paula

Thank you, Matt. As I told Steve, I thought in a CDATA field you could
use any character. Apparently not. <g>

Best,
Paula

> On Sep 1, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Paula Berinstein wrote:
>
> > I've been having a bit of trouble with this myself. iTunes picked
> > up my
> > original feed with 8 episodes very quickly. That was last week.
> > Then on
> > Monday I added another episode using a new item tag. Zilch. It's not
> > showing up. I'm a little concerned that the feed might not be valid
> > because I have some special characters that I had to code starting
> > with
> > an ampersand, though I don't see why that should be a problem.
>
> Feed Validator sez:
>
> http://feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%
> 2Fwww.writingshow.com%2FFeeds%2Ffeed.mrss.xml
>
> In the line that reads:
>
> Because you don't always have time to listen
>
> you need to change the apostrophe from a smart quote to a straight
> quote. It's encoded wrong.
>
> > The feed is at http://www.writingshow.com/Feeds/feed.mrss.xml.
> >
> > BTW, when you say you can put 10 to 15 episodes in a feed, are you
> > saying you have to start a new feed after that?
>
> Usually, the RSS generation script attached to any given blogging app
> will only display the n most recent entries, so older ones will fall
> off automagically.
>
> -
> m

Still, this is a great resource! Perhaps it will motivate PRI and others to
consider podcasting shows after their airing.

- Steve


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Behalf Of J Wynia
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:12 PM
To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [podcasters] NPR Podcast Directory Launches


Stephen Eley wrote:

> On 8/31/05, thesoundofyoungamerica <thesoundofyoungamerica@...>
> wrote:
> > A nice implementation, I think.  NPR programs aren't podcasting in
> > full, since that would piss off local stations to no end.
>
> That must also be why Marketplace still isn't on the list.
> (Naturally, the show I'm most interested in...)

The patchwork of program sources also comes into play. Much of what
listeners consider "NPR" is actually a locally blended combination of
programming from NPR-proper, PRI, American Public Media, individual
public radio stations, etc. As such, NPR doesn't actually have
permissions or ownership over much of what gets considered "NPR".

--
J Wynia
The Glass is Too Big
http://www.wynia.org
j@...





Yahoo! Groups Links

Based on user requests, I've just added a category to the Digital
Podcast Directory to list sources of podsafe music.

Here's the link:

http://www.digitalpodcast.com/browse-podsafe_music_sources-73-1.html

If you find more, please add them to the directory.

Best

Alex
www.digitalpodcast.com

--- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, J Wynia <j@w...> wrote:
> Stephen Eley wrote:
> > That must also be why Marketplace still isn't on the list.
> > (Naturally, the show I'm most interested in...)
>
> The patchwork of program sources also comes into play. Much of what
> listeners consider "NPR" is actually a locally blended combination of
> programming from NPR-proper, PRI, American Public Media, individual
> public radio stations, etc. As such, NPR doesn't actually have
> permissions or ownership over much of what gets considered "NPR".

Yeah, Marketplace is distributed by American Public Media, which has
been the most aggressive about challenging NPR.

This confusion became a big issue when NPR got the huge bequest from
Jean Kroc, the McDonald's heiress.  Apparently, her favorite "NPR" show
was PRI's "This American Life."

That said, I really wonder what the criteria are for getting into this
list.  Are there any programs from independent stations like New York's
WFMU on there? I didn't see any.  There were some non-NPR shows from
NPR member stations (like KCRW's shows, for example).

Jesse

How stupid is it of them to make you submit to an agreement in order to get
banners to solicit relief aid?

Very productive Red Cross. Good job.



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I just saw this page and thought I'd share since I know so many members of
the Podcasting community are trying to assist with the relief effort.

http://www.redcross.org/psa/bannerorder/all/


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Oh, absolutely. A great deal of what I listen to via podcast
subscription is NPR, ripped public radio (recorded streams), Australian
Public Radio, BBC, etc. Many of the shows I enjoy on FM public radio
aren't available and any push in this direction is a good one. I'll
definitely be filling my subscription list from this resource.

I also think that there are several groups that have produced stuff for
any one of the above that are now looking at podcasting directly as a
viable option as well. I'll be surprised if we don't get a
pseudo-Internet Public Radio that aggregates that kind of content into a
single brand for the purposes of fundraising, i.e. adding the
pledgedrive kind of content to the programming and handling those
contributions, distributing to the producers.

Of course, I tend to take a bit of a different take on podcasting from
many others. I definitely seperate the genres of content from the
distribution channel. To me, much of the podcasting discussion and
chatter concerns the content and formats of the content. Much of that is
about whether they'll replace blogs, how they relate to blogs, etc.
However, that's very focused on who the initial adopters of this
distribution channel are and how they're using it (a lot of 3 guys and a
mic talking about news, audio blogging, here's some music I like, etc.).

The distribution channel itself (subscribed, asynchronous media) is
actually bigger than just podcasting as it exists today. Parallels to
radio and TV are obvious: early TV content was little more than talking
heads. Radio was similar, with people just playing records/wax cylinders
over the air. Over time, those evolved into a much more sophisticated
types of content. However, the distribution method: free delivery of
audio and video to home receivers changed very little. Stereo was added
to radio, color to TV, etc., but it still changed greatly.  However,
those aren't the only parallels because much of the business model that
grew up around those (and around movie distribution as well) centered
around the problem of the cost of duplication and limited availability.
There can only be so many channels in the frequency band (or cable
capacity or sattelite capacity) and the scarcity of those resources has
routed the content through corporations who control those limited
resources. As a result, advertising, inserted into the content, which
was only available to the users via the restricted bandwidth became a
viable model for giving the content away (over the air TV), while still
paying the producers of content (much of which was produced by 3rd
parties and syndicated to the TV stations).
The Internet changes that pretty dramatically. Effectively unlimited
bandwidth and near zero cost of distribution mean that the previously
viable model of a middleman making sure that the content both gets
distributed and the producer gets paid falls down. I think we're
starting to see the beginnings of people trying to figure out how to
"monetize" this stuff (even if only to the degree of ensuring that the
actual costs of production are covered and no profit sought). TV on DVD,
cable's On Demand programming, etc. are dealing with it in the TV arena,
but there will be much shaking out of this stuff over the next couple of
years.

And, lest anyone think that it's going too fast to take several years,
just consider how the fast paced Internet space itself has changed. Only
now, 10 years after I first got online have we seen maturity (meaning
that it's used for the full spectrum of messages to be delivered:
including commercial, personal, etc.) and some stability. Early Internet
content was pretty homogenous and I think the current homogeneity in
podcasting will also diversify and I really look forward to it.

Butzel, Steven wrote:

> Still, this is a great resource! Perhaps it will motivate PRI and
> others to consider podcasting shows after their airing.
>
> - Steve
>

--
J Wynia
The Glass is Too Big
http://www.wynia.org
j@...

Shows currently podcasting from Public Radio International:

Echoes -- Soundscapes and Artist Interviews (PRI)
Studio 360 (PRI/WYNC)
Brain Brew (PRI)
Michael Feldman's Whad'ya Know? (PRI/WPR)
PRI’s The World - Geo Quiz (BBC, PRI, WGBH)
To The Point (PRI/KCRW)
American Routes (PRI)
PRI Best of Our Knowledge (PRI/WPR)
Open Source (PRI)
And all the BBC 
 
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if there were only heads or tails and nothing in between?”
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On Sep 1, 2005, at 11:53 AM, thesoundofyoungamerica wrote:

>
> --- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, J Wynia <j@w...> wrote:
>> Stephen Eley wrote:
>>> That must also be why Marketplace still isn't on the list.
>>> (Naturally, the show I'm most interested in...)
>>
>> The patchwork of program sources also comes into play. Much of what
>> listeners consider "NPR" is actually a locally blended combination of
>> programming from NPR-proper, PRI, American Public Media, individual
>> public radio stations, etc. As such, NPR doesn't actually have
>> permissions or ownership over much of what gets considered "NPR".
>
> Yeah, Marketplace is distributed by American Public Media, which has
> been the most aggressive about challenging NPR.
>
> This confusion became a big issue when NPR got the huge bequest from
> Jean Kroc, the McDonald's heiress.  Apparently, her favorite "NPR" show
> was PRI's "This American Life."
>
> That said, I really wonder what the criteria are for getting into this
> list.  Are there any programs from independent stations like New York's
> WFMU on there? I didn't see any.  There were some non-NPR shows from
> NPR member stations (like KCRW's shows, for example).
>
> Jesse
>
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>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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that, and the whole NPR/Audible unholy alliance...

------- Original Message -------
From: Stephen Eley <SFEley@...>
To: podcasters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 9/1/05, 12:03:01 PM
Subject: Re: [podcasters] NPR Podcast Directory Launches

On 8/31/05, thesoundofyoungamerica <thesoundofyoungamerica@...> wrote:
> A nice implementation, I think.  NPR programs aren't podcasting in
> full, since that would piss off local stations to no end.

That must also be why Marketplace still isn't on the list.
(Naturally, the show I'm most interested in...)


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Have Fun,
    Steve Eley (sfeley@...)
    ESCAPE POD - the SF podcast magazine
    http://escape.extraneous.org


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