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I suppose this could fall under the heading of SPAM but cannot think of
another way to do it.

Only those people who intend to buy Lifepo4 in the next 14 Days need to join
this Group. As of June 30th no new Members will be accepted.

For those who have no clue what all this is about---read this before
thinking about joining the Yahoo Group

LiFePo4 Group Buy



This is a very limited time offer for anyone interested in acquiring
LifeBatt 10Ah Lifepo4 Cells.



These are not Old Stock!



The Cells are the Newest "Grey" Cells with LifeBatt Logo and they are still
being manufactured till the production run of 100,000 Cells is complete.



What has happened is LifeBatt who build Lifepo4 for Automotive applications
was contracted to manufacture 100,000 of the 10Ah Cells for an Electric Car
conversion company in the USA. LifeBatt are actively selling HPS Packs using
these cells now for the EV automotive market and so either we as e-bikers
get them now or they go to the Automotive HPS Packs and we lose out.



A New 14Ah Cell was being developed and the Electric Car company asked to
have the new 14Ah Cells.



This created a problem for LifeBatt because once the Production Run begins
you cannot just shut it down and start on a new Cell design and so the run
goes till the last Cell is done.





LifeBatt Policy is to Not leave finished Cells on the shelf to collect dust.



So 100,000 of the 10Ah Cells need a Home and they need it soon.



This seemed like a real good time to ask LifeBatt to sell this production
run to the e-bike community which in case you have not noticed is having a
hell of a time locating good quality Lifepo4 at an affordable price.



Affordable Lifepo4 and LifeBatt in the same sentence sounds very weird.



So here is the Plan and I apologize to any Dealers who will go utterly Ape
Shit when they read this.



The LifeBatt 10Ah Lifepo4 Cells will be sold at Cost with Zero Profit
involved.



Well apart from the Profit LifeBatt makes since the last time I looked they
are not a registered Charity.

A few months ago LifeBatt 10Ah Cells sold at $55.00 USD each.



The Price of this Production Run is $30.00 USD each.



Means a 36V X 10Ah Pack is $360.00 USD

Means a 48V X 10Ah Pack is $480.00 USD



Still Breathing?



What is the Added Cost for the BMS?



Gary Goodrum has to get back to me on this but it should not be expensive in
a factory run.



Warranty:



Charger under a Warranty from Soneil International



BMS under a Warranty from Gary Goodrum



The LifeBatt Individual Cells are under a 90 Day Warranty



I have spoken at great length with Soneil and they will supply a Charger
modified to work with LifeBatt Lifepo4.



The Chargers are not your usual 1.5A Plastic Chinese Chargers.



The 48V Unit is 6A and the 36V unit is 3.5A



These will be sold AT THE WHOLESALE COST (Again No Profit)



The Cases



Here we have a problem because I have not been as active as I should be to
track down a suitable case but am on that now.



The LifeBatt Cells have a Threaded Post at each end of the Cell with a
Washer and Nut. These Cells need to be very secure in the case and held by
brackets.

Not having a Case at this point is a PITA but not a deal breaker since the
Cases will not be needed for a good 3 weeks after the Order is sent to the
Factory in Taiwan.

Shipping



LifeBatt-USA is willing to Pay the Sea Freight Shipping, Import Duties,
Homeland Security Fee and Taxes and so YOU won't have to be concerned about
that cost.



Once the Battery Packs/Cells are Warehoused in California everyone who has
placed an order will be contacted and asked to arrange for USPS-UPS or FedEx
Shipping to their Door.



Will look at having Canadian customers served by a shipment to Vancouver
B.C.



I want to nail down the Case & BMS cost before I ask anyone to send me their
money. I hate Hidden Charges that appear later and I'm sure the rest of you
ladies hate it too, so I want to get all this right.



Do I project the sale of 100,000 Cells?



Be Nice but would be happy at 20,000 but LifeBatt would be ecstatic if
50,000 cells went out the door in one shot.



How Much Money do I make from all this?



Absolutely Nuthin



There is a Window here, a Window that closes and stays closed till the
Spring of 2009. Anyone who wants in on this Offer has to signup and pay the
full amount before June 28th.



I already know that everyone on Endless-Sphere will dissect this offer till
the cows come home and decide there is something wrong with it, but then it
is their loss when hundreds of e-bikers are riding around on LifeBatt packs
that work and they cannot buy one. This really is a One Time deal.



I am going to open this up to a few Dealers also at the same $30.00 per
Cell. What I expect will happen is when those who buy in now get and ride
with their Packs they will leave a trail of people who want one also and
there won't be any available. Having a limited number of Dealers onboard
will allow sales after everyone has theirs, but I can guarantee those
Dealers will add their (Healthy for them) Profit Markups.



Will create a Yahoo Group Site for people with questions and keep everyone
in the loop as this progresses.



http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/lifepo4-purchase/



joshua goldberg

evsolutions@...

www.evsolutions.net

http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/e-motor-assist





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Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:10 pm

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I suppose this could fall under the heading of SPAM but cannot think of another way to do it. Only those people who intend to buy Lifepo4 in the next 14 Days...
evsolutions
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I'm interested. Will I be able to build a pack that I can run my Cyclone motors with? The Cyclone motor needs a little less than 36 volts, maybe one or 2...
andrsnj1
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Jun 15, 2008
3:51 pm

I would assume the charger will bring all the cells present to a full charge regardless of how many cells it is cooking. Lithium chargers do one cell at a time...
evsolutions
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Jun 15, 2008
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The New 14 ah cells might be worth waiting for. ..................... A New 14Ah Cell was being developed and the Electric Car company...
whbob16
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Jun 17, 2008
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Then be my guest and wait but since they are going into Cars and NOT e-bikes, you buy the Car first and then buy the 14Ah Cells and then crack open the...
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Jun 17, 2008
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You would trust the judgement this person to hold 150 grand of your money? ... full charge ... cell at ... and will ... assist@yahoogroups.com] On ... one ... ...
whbob16
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Jun 17, 2008
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Would they feel safe trusting someone who advocates using Ebay and lives in a Trailer Park with a P.O. Box Address who has gone off his meds? joshua goldberg ...
evsolutions
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Jun 17, 2008
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So where do we lemmings send $????????? Doc ... think of ... need to join ... are still ... complete. ... applications ... Electric Car ... Packs using ... ...
David Rodvien
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Jun 15, 2008
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So far Don Harmon wants me to collect all the cash and send it to him in one shot. I suspect my Bank Manager and his will be puckering up for some mean butt...
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Jun 15, 2008
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Is LiFePo4 Group Buy up and running yet? I couldn't find it. ... think of ... need to join ... are still ... complete. ... applications ... Electric Car ... ...
andrsnj1
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Jun 16, 2008
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You mean this http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/lifepo4-purchase/ joshua goldberg evsolutions@... www.evsolutions.net ...
evsolutions
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Jun 16, 2008
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Have you found it yet ????? Don ... From: andrsnj1 To: power-assist@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:37 AM Subject: [power-assist] Re: LifePo4...
Don Harmon
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Jun 16, 2008
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Don , I recall you mentioning that a BMS might not even be required with a small LiFePO4 pack. What ill effects would we expect running these cells without a...
John Quilitz
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Jun 16, 2008
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You might need a new garage or house? LOL Robbie ... with a small LiFePO4 pack. ... <evsolutions@ ...> ... before ... acquiring ... e- ... out. ... Run ... so ...
robbiehatfield
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Jun 16, 2008
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LIFEPO4 do not Explode nor Combust although I'm sure you could figure out a way to make it do both LOL joshua goldberg evsolutions@... ...
evsolutions
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Jun 16, 2008
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I'm not Don, I am far more handsome (assuming you think the Pillsbury Dough Boy looks handsome). The Lifeop4 we are doing and will be sent from Taiwan will...
evsolutions
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Jun 16, 2008
5:32 pm

More important, i am almost sure Gary's desing does NOT incluse " over-current " protection.. This has been the downfall of most BMS's i've tested and read...
G Daigle
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Jun 16, 2008
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I said it is possible - but that we don't do it on our larger automotive packs because there is a multitude of cells involved. Remember I said a small pack -...
Don Harmon
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Jun 16, 2008
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OK ... I was going to do the testing over in Joshua's neighborhood. His neighbors would not be suspicious of the odd explosion. LOL ... From: Don Harmon...
John Quilitz
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You know everyone says after their mobile home is parked in a tree top that the Tornado sounded just like a Freight Train going by. I live next to a Rail Line...
evsolutions
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Jun 16, 2008
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At this point Who would trust Don or Joshua ? It would seem better to offer these cells on Ebay for $30. including shipping to see what responses come from the...
whbob16
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Jun 16, 2008
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Me, I'd trust them. Have purchased from both Joshua, Gary, Bob, and many others. Things can always go sour, fact of life.. but as far as trust and honest...
G Daigle
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Jun 16, 2008
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Think about it. A $150,000 purchase that will sit in a tralier park, a PO Box, or ? LOL, until the cash or batteries are missing. ... honest opinions go.....
whbob16
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Jun 17, 2008
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Bah.. how bout this as an example of how things " Can " work out. www.voltphreaks.com https://s.p10.hostingprod.com/@.../ssl/catalog/ I ordered...
G Daigle
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Jun 17, 2008
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Don't bother wasting your breath on this dope. Most trailer park residents can't spell *trailer park*. LOL Robbie ... cells.. ... minute suse.. the other 16...
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Always floors me to see these Mericans who park their mobile homes in flood plains and in Tornado Alley and the Live at 6 o'clock News is out there doing on...
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Do You live in a Trailer Park and use a P.O. Box for Mail? joshua goldberg evsolutions@... www.evsolutions.net ...
evsolutions
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Jun 17, 2008
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But you'd Trust a Seller you don't know on EBay..good gawd man are you off your meds? joshua goldberg evsolutions@... www.evsolutions.net ...
evsolutions
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Jun 16, 2008
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... I trust them also. If you look for ill will in the world you're sure to find it. I have a choice and choose not to....
Bill
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