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Re: Group Ride

Impressive stats as usual andrsnj1!

I did a short ride myself last night. 20 miles, 197wh, 16.6 mph average speed,
9.85wh per mile. Two mountains climbed with varialble inclines that I'd estimate
to be in the 8 - 12% range.

I'm continously amazed at what can be achieved with a correctly geared single
speed currie uspd at the correct voltage. If I'm careful to keep the current
draw to around 5amps and continuously shift into the most appropriate pedal
assist gear, I can go on and on and on seemingly forever. With 5 amps this means
240W of steady assistance. This makes for effortless 20 - 25mph speed on long
flats and slight inclines typical of major divided line routes and around 12 -
13mph of effortless climbing speed up most *rolling hill* type of grades. Up the
steep hills, I increase the limit to around 10 - 12A and climb them at around 6
- 10mph from the steepest to more mild grades respectively.

Robbie



--- In power-assist@yahoogroups.com, "andrsnj1" <andrsnj@...> wrote:
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> 44.4 miles, 372 watt hours, 17.5 mph average, 8.4 watt hours per mile
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> The fast guys left early so I rode with who was left and they were a little
slower so I used less battery power.
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> Included in this ride was the 1.25 mmile 8% mountain. I was fairly
conservative on the power for most of the ride but I gave it maximum effort on
the mountain.
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> The beauty of being able to use only as much power as necessary is that you
can ride right up to your physical limitations without going over and still
never have to worry about being dropped.
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> It's a beautiful thing.
>





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44.4 miles, 372 watt hours, 17.5 mph average, 8.4 watt hours per mile The fast guys left early so I rode with who was left and they were a little slower so I...
andrsnj1
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Jul 9, 2009
1:25 am

Impressive stats as usual andrsnj1! I did a short ride myself last night. 20 miles, 197wh, 16.6 mph average speed, 9.85wh per mile. Two mountains climbed with...
robbiehatfield
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Jul 9, 2009
11:41 am

34 miles, 389 watt hours, 18 mph avg Another beautiful day. At the end we saw the sun setting over the CT River. There was about 40 riders in the A/B group...
andrsnj1
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Jul 14, 2009
3:08 am

I did a nice 30 mile ride yesterday up in the hills. 257wh used and average speed was 15.9mph. I think that 100 miles with 720wh of battery is definitely...
robbiehatfield
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Jul 14, 2009
3:34 am

... John: Sounds like you're enjoying a pleasant New England summer. If I'm riding faster than most other cyclists, but not at maximum speed, I find I can go...
Bill Bushnell
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Jul 14, 2009
4:22 am

If you can't beat a all human power athlete cyclist like Lance on a all terrain 100 mile race with a ebike weighing under 100 lbs your trip figures of wh per...
kidcalif
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Jul 14, 2009
11:43 am

There's some truth to what Randy is saying here. The only exception I'd take is the arbitrary 100 mile figure. If a 75lb ebike enables an average rider to beat...
robbiehatfield
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Jul 14, 2009
11:55 am

... I go out just about every weekend and ride 70 to 120 miles with climbing up to 10k feet on an ebike that weighs close to 100 lbs. Yes, I pedal, because...
Bill Bushnell
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Jul 14, 2009
4:59 pm

1kwh of battery would increase his maximum watt hour per mile to 10wh and this is more power than I'm reading that he's using on most of his typical jaunts....
robbiehatfield
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Jul 14, 2009
11:52 am

... It's not clear to me what John's climbing density is on these rides he does with the local go-fast group. (climbing density = feet climbed per mile...
Bill Bushnell
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Jul 14, 2009
4:43 pm

I don't know what my climbing density is on a typical ride other than to say there are usually lots of hills, probably around the 80 feet per mile figure you...
andrsnj1
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Jul 14, 2009
6:18 pm

If you bother to look as the facts, some impedance matched Lipos weigh 1/2 as much as the most powerful lifepo4 batteries and have a continuous C rating that...
kidcalif
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Jul 15, 2009
12:07 pm

Yes, and they also have tradeoffs in the realm of safety. It's not just about energy density you moron.. Scotty would tell you that your matter/anti-matter...
robbiehatfield
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Jul 15, 2009
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Meet in dangerous volumes that is.. LOL Robbie...
robbiehatfield
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Jul 15, 2009
12:30 pm

If you can't match a athlete cyclists speed for the same long distance would be a good indication. If you come close all you would need to do is spend more $...
kidcalif
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Jul 15, 2009
12:07 pm

Four times more battery? Let's do a little math.. 4 x 720wh is 2880wh For a 100 mile ride, this would mean that andrsnj1 would have to his avail 28.8wh per...
robbiehatfield
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Jul 15, 2009
12:28 pm

There are all kinds of variables when comparing different riders with varying amounts of battery power and motor power. I know I'm not in the same category as...
andrsnj1
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Jul 15, 2009
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I would go for increasing battery capacity! Don ... From: robbiehatfield To: power-assist@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:34 PM Subject:...
Don Harmon
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Jul 14, 2009
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30 miles, 269 watt hours, 16.7 mph avg. The group split up early. I caught up to the fast guys but I got a little too far back and lost them at an...
andrsnj1
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Jul 21, 2009
3:17 am

37 miles, 340 watt hours, 17.7 mph avg. This includes the 1 1/4 mile, 8% grade. My numbers are a little better than usual, I attribute this to more effort on...
andrsnj1
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Jul 23, 2009
12:39 pm

A tad over 9 watt hours per mile. About the same rate of usage that I had this past weekend with my 50 mile ride. My average speed was around 16.5 mph or so...
robbiehatfield
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Jul 23, 2009
1:32 pm

Tonight I went out with the group without my motor. I was conservative this time and chose the "C" group. We went 27 miles. My average speed readout had an...
andrsnj1
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Aug 18, 2009
3:31 am

14.7mph average speed is a respectable pace for the average rider that doesn't devote their whole life to training on a bicycle. Good on you andrsnj1. I think...
robbiehatfield
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Aug 18, 2009
12:24 pm

Went out again tonight. I was closer to home and more familiar with the territory so I decided to push the envelope a little and went out with the "B+" group....
andrsnj1
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Aug 20, 2009
12:26 am

Here they say that on a recumbent, you don't need a draft to go fast, you go as fast alone on a recumbent as uprights drafting in groups. The thing is that...
B D
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Aug 20, 2009
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Hi Bruno, It is possible to use drafting for delta recumbent trikes connected together. It is done in Germany with Hase delta trikes. I also saw it in 2006 at...
gerhardtdon
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Aug 24, 2009
3:24 am

Tough night andrsnj1! In contrast, my night was much easier. I flew my RC plane for an hour or so. LOL Seriously speaking, yes, as your apparent interest all...
robbiehatfield
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Aug 20, 2009
12:21 pm

Being part of a group is not one of my driving forces but it does have its advantages. I really do admire what some of these guys can do on a bicycle. I want...
andrsnj1
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Aug 20, 2009
1:32 pm

Loose some body weight, get a efficient drive system, and light weight batteries and you will still be beaten by a athlete cyclist because they are doing the...
kidcalif
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Aug 21, 2009
4:17 pm

Losing body weight is a good thing and I think I'm doing that based upon a comment I got last night. On the other hand I see everybody else around me going...
andrsnj1
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Aug 21, 2009
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