Bud or Guiness for me.

Seriously, though, it really doesn't matter. Mix it up a little bit.

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From: Steve Johnson [mailto:sjjohnson@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Peter Provost
Subject: Re: [PragProg-Denver] Meeting This Monday


Peter Provost wrote:

> Excellent. Can someone pick up the other half? (e.g. beer)

I can do that.  What's everybody like?


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Peter Provost wrote:

> Excellent. Can someone pick up the other half? (e.g. beer)

I can do that.  What's everybody like?


--
Steve Johnson

Excellent. Can someone pick up the other half? (e.g. beer)

________________________________

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From: Barry Funk [mailto:bfunk@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:04 PM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PragProg-Denver] Meeting This Monday


I'm scheduled to bring some snacks Monday.  I still plan to do so. :)

Barry

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From: pprovost [mailto:peter.provost@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:56 AM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PragProg-Denver] Meeting This Monday


Hello all,

A couple of administrative notes:

1. We need two volunteers to bring soda, beer and snacks to the
meeting this monday

2. We need to decide on a topic. Please check the Polls section and
update your votes. (You can vote for more than one!) I will close
the poll soon, so please try to do this ASAP.

3. I will send out an "official" announcement later in the day with
address, contact info, etc.

See you Monday!

--Peter



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I'm scheduled to bring some snacks Monday.  I still plan to do so. :)

Barry

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From: pprovost [mailto:peter.provost@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:56 AM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PragProg-Denver] Meeting This Monday


Hello all,

A couple of administrative notes:

1. We need two volunteers to bring soda, beer and snacks to the
meeting this monday

2. We need to decide on a topic. Please check the Polls section and
update your votes. (You can vote for more than one!) I will close
the poll soon, so please try to do this ASAP.

3. I will send out an "official" announcement later in the day with
address, contact info, etc.

See you Monday!

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Hello all,

A couple of administrative notes:

1. We need two volunteers to bring soda, beer and snacks to the
meeting this monday

2. We need to decide on a topic. Please check the Polls section and
update your votes. (You can vote for more than one!) I will close
the poll soon, so please try to do this ASAP.

3. I will send out an "official" announcement later in the day with
address, contact info, etc.

See you Monday!

--Peter

Hey everybody.

I'm new to the group and was planning to come Monday.  If needed, I'll bring
something.  Let me know (but be nice - no fillet mignon :-)

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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:05 AM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PragProg-Denver] Food/Drink


I'm willing to bring food or beer...whichever has not yet been
volunteered.


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I'm willing to bring food or beer...whichever has not yet been
volunteered.


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Hey guys - I won't be able to make it on Monday 1/19...it's our launch date,
and I'm sure you understand how that usually goes! :-)

See you next month.

-GR

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Wilson [mailto:dotnetguy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:34 AM
To: Pragmatic Practitioners
Subject: [PragProg-Denver] Topic for Monday?

Those who wish to vote in the poll, please do so soon. Right now, the narrow
winner is "Smart Clients (are web interfaces dead?)".

See you then!

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See you then!

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Let's go ahead and leave the meeting at the originally scheduled date and
time.

Thanks,
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I wrote:

> I can do any other day that week, or we can bump it to the next Monday if
> Monday is really the only good day.

And, let me say, that if we end up w/ people who can't go if we move the
date, then absolutely we should keep it where it is.

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Peter Provost wrote:

> I'm fine with moving it.

> Brad, why don't you suggest some alternate dates?

I can do any other day that week, or we can bump it to the next Monday if
Monday is really the only good day.

Brad

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Oops. Missed that one.

I updated the survey, so anyone who wants to vote for this one can
update their answers.

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From: Lawrence, Richard [mailto:lawrencer@...]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:36 AM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PragProg-Denver] New poll for pragprog-denver


What happened to Operations and Monitoring? I'd love to discuss
approaches to error reporting, logging, instrumentation, etc.



Richard



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What happened to Operations and Monitoring? I'd love to discuss
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Thanks!

I'm fine with moving it.

Brad, why don't you suggest some alternate dates?

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From: Brad Wilson [mailto:dotnetguy@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:15 PM
To: Pragmatic Practitioners
Subject: [PragProg-Denver] It's January...


...and we don't have a topic yet.

While this seems supremely selfish, I wonder if we can move the meeting
night to another night. My wife is coming back into town on a flight
that
night at 7pm, and although I'm sure we could find her a ride with a
friend,
I'd prefer it was me if it were possible.

If it's going to be too much trouble, then bag it. It's not required.

Anywho, who's bringing the food this time? :-D

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...and we don't have a topic yet.

While this seems supremely selfish, I wonder if we can move the meeting
night to another night. My wife is coming back into town on a flight that
night at 7pm, and although I'm sure we could find her a ride with a friend,
I'd prefer it was me if it were possible.

If it's going to be too much trouble, then bag it. It's not required.

Anywho, who's bringing the food this time? :-D

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First of all, thanks to everyone who made it last night. We had a
great roundtable discussion of Unit Testing and Test-Driven Development.

Special thanks to Eben and Gordon for providing refreshments.

Barry has volunteered to bring stuff next month but I would like to
get one more volunteer to help him out. If you are interested, please
post back to the list.

Next month's meeting will be on Monday January 19, 2004 at the
Interlink Offices in Inverness. I will send out another reminder when
it gets closer.

We still haven't decided on a topic for the meeting, so if you have
any ideas or suggestions post them here. We added a number of ideas to
the wiki [1] last night, so be sure to take a look there first.

Peter Provost

[1]
http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/cgi-local/pragprog?DenverPractitioners/Topics\
ForMeetings

Eben and I had food & beverage duty tonight, I'll be there.

-----Original Message from Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...>-----

Mike Clark wrote:

> Are your meetings open to the public?  I'd like to stop by tonight.

Yes, definitely! All the information is on our wiki:

http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/cgi-local/pragprog?DenverPractitioners

including a map to get to our meeting place tonight:

http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/cgi-local/pragprog?DenverPractitioners/Meetin\
gMaps

It's stopped snowing here, but the wind is still pretty strong. As I live
and work in the country instead of in the city, it'll be sort of a last
minute decision as to whether or not I can make it, but I'll be doing my
best to get there.

Barry is out; was he bringing something food-wise? Can that be covered?

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RE: Food

I'm scheduled to bring food next month, so no need to cover me tonight.

Barry

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From: Brad Wilson [mailto:dotnetguy@...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:37 PM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PragProg-Denver] Everyone Still On?


Mike Clark wrote:

> Are your meetings open to the public?  I'd like to stop by tonight.

Yes, definitely! All the information is on our wiki:

http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/cgi-local/pragprog?DenverPractitioners

including a map to get to our meeting place tonight:

http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/cgi-local/pragprog?DenverPractitioners/Me
etingMaps

It's stopped snowing here, but the wind is still pretty strong. As I live
and work in the country instead of in the city, it'll be sort of a last
minute decision as to whether or not I can make it, but I'll be doing my
best to get there.

Barry is out; was he bringing something food-wise? Can that be covered?

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> Are your meetings open to the public?  I'd like to stop by tonight.

Yes, definitely! All the information is on our wiki:

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including a map to get to our meeting place tonight:

http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/cgi-local/pragprog?DenverPractitioners/Meetin\
gMaps

It's stopped snowing here, but the wind is still pretty strong. As I live
and work in the country instead of in the city, it'll be sort of a last
minute decision as to whether or not I can make it, but I'll be doing my
best to get there.

Barry is out; was he bringing something food-wise? Can that be covered?

Brad

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I'm planning on being there, but then I only have to go a couple of
miles.

Richard

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From: pprovost [mailto:peter.provost@...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:41 AM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PragProg-Denver] Everyone Still On?

Hello all,

I just wanted to check in with everyone and see if the weather has
killed anyone's plans to attend this evening.

It has stopped snowing down here in Inverness, and the roads look
clear so as far as I'm concerned, we're still on.

If anyone thinks we should cancel or reschedule, please reply back to
the list.

Thanks!

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Howdy,

Are your meetings open to the public?  I'd like to stop by tonight.

Mike

On Dec 15, 2003, at 11:40 AM, pprovost wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I just wanted to check in with everyone and see if the weather has
> killed anyone's plans to attend this evening.
>
> It has stopped snowing down here in Inverness, and the roads look
> clear so as far as I'm concerned, we're still on.
>
> If anyone thinks we should cancel or reschedule, please reply back to
> the list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Peter
>

I'm set to go, my car's at Elway Toyota, so I'm not going anywhere for a few
hours anyhow.

-----Original Message from pprovost <peter.provost@...>-----

Hello all,

I just wanted to check in with everyone and see if the weather has
killed anyone's plans to attend this evening.

It has stopped snowing down here in Inverness, and the roads look
clear so as far as I'm concerned, we're still on.

If anyone thinks we should cancel or reschedule, please reply back to
the list.

Thanks!

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I probably won't be able to drive up from the Springs, but please go ahead
without me if I'm the only one that's not going to make it.

Barry Funk

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From: pprovost [mailto:peter.provost@...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:41 AM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PragProg-Denver] Everyone Still On?


Hello all,

I just wanted to check in with everyone and see if the weather has
killed anyone's plans to attend this evening.

It has stopped snowing down here in Inverness, and the roads look
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Thanks!

--Peter



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Hello all,

I just wanted to check in with everyone and see if the weather has
killed anyone's plans to attend this evening.

It has stopped snowing down here in Inverness, and the roads look
clear so as far as I'm concerned, we're still on.

If anyone thinks we should cancel or reschedule, please reply back to
the list.

Thanks!

--Peter

Hello all,

This will be the last email that I will send directly to you. Brad
Wilson and I have set up a Yahoo Group mailing list for our little
group. That way we can communicate effectively without having to keep
email addres lists and such.

To sign up for the mailing list, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pragprog-denver/

Now for the request... Brad and I provided the refreshments for the last
meeting. We are looking for two volunnteers to bring refreshments to
this month's meeting. If you can help out, please email me directly and
I'll help you figure out what to bring.

Please go sign up for the mailing list and if you can help out, thanks
in advance.

________________________________

Peter Provost <mailto:peter.provost@...>

Managing Consultant

98 Inverness Drive East, Suite 150

Englewood, CO 80112

direct: (303) 542-7049

main: (303) 542-7100

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I wrote:

> Can you get a couple volunteers[...]

That should read "can we". Sheesh. Sundays. :-p

Brad

Can you get a couple volunteers to make sure we're stocked with enough beer,
pop, and snackables for the meeting?

Thanks...

Brad

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December Meeting of the Denver Pragmatic Practitioners

Date: Monday December 15, 2003 5:30PM - 8:00PM

Location: Interlink Group Offices, 98 Inverness Drive East, Suite
150, Englewood CO 80112

Topic: Unit Testing and Test-Driven Development

After our spirited discussion in November about Source Control, we
decided that we would discuss Unit Testing and TDD at our next
meeting. Have you done TDD? What were your experiences like? Do you
use JUnit, NUnit or one of the other unit testing frameworks? If we
have time, we'll try to have a chat about FIT testing as well. Join
the Denver Pragmatic Practitioners for a round-table discussion with
your peers about what has worked and hasn't worked.

We look forward to seeing you there.