On Monday, April 25th, Agile Denver welcomes Ron Jeffries, experienced XP
author, trainer, coach, and practitioner. Ron is author of Extreme Programming
Adventures in C#, the senior author of Extreme Programming Installed, and was
the on-site XP coach for the original Extreme Programming project. This is Ron's
first visit to Agile Denver, and will be an opportunity not to be missed by
those old and new to Agile.

Ron has been involved with Extreme Programming since 1996, presenting numerous
talks and publishing papers on the topic. He is the proprietor of
www.XProgramming.com, a well-known source of XP information. Ron is an
independent consultant with Object Mentor, and was one of the creators, and a
featured instructor in Object Mentor's popular XP Immersion course.

Ron has advanced degrees in mathematics and computer science, and has been a
systems developer for more years than most of you have been alive. His teams
have built operating systems, compilers, relational database systems, and a
large range of applications. Ron's software products have produced revenue of
over half a billion dollars, and he wonders why he didn't get any of it.

The meeting will be held at the Qwest Auditorium in Downtown Denver. Doors open
at 6:00pm for networking and refreshments, and the meeting is open to software
professionals and students. Visit http://www.agiledenver.org/2005AprMeeting.php
for any additional meeting details.

On a related note, Ron may still be looking for a Little Help with
XProgramming.com. Visit his blog for more information:
http://www.xprogramming.com/blog/Page.aspx?display=LittleHelp

AGENDA:

6:00 - 6:25 PM  Networking and refreshments
6:25 - 6:35 PM  Announcements
6:35 - 7:45 PM  Ron Jeffries
7:45 - 7:50 PM  Door prize giveaways

SPONSORS

April 2005 meeting sponsors are:

- Agile Alliance (http://www.agilealliance.org)
- Rally Software Development (http://www.rallydevelopment.com)
- Addison-Wesley (www.awprofessional.com)
- Softpro Books (http://www.softpro.com)
- Qwest (http://www.qwest.com)

DIRECTIONS

The Qwest auditorium is in the Qwest building on the corner of 17th and
Curtis. The street address is 1005 17th Street. Take the exterior escalators
facing 17th from street level to Level 1. You can then access the elevators
via doors to the right of the escalator landing. Take an elevator to Level A
for the auditorium. If these doors are locked, go to the main building lobby
which is on Level 1 if you proceed from the escalator landing.

In addition to street parking, there is an outside parking lot on the East
side of the Qwest building that costs a flat $6 after 4pm. Several other
lots are within a few blocks and covered parking can be found in the Tabor
Center for around $4.

A G I L E  D E N V E R
www.agiledenver.org

Hey all,

I've been offered a position at Microsoft, working with Peter. I'll be
out of here in the next week or so. It's my hope that at some point,
the group re-organizes and starts meeting again.

Good luck in everything, folks. :)

- Brad

--
Brad Wilson
http://www.dotnetdevs.com/
http://dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com/

"Customers don't want a drill. They want a hole."

Agile Project Management vs. Traditional Project Management ...which makes the
most sense for your organization? Do you wonder how companies align themselves
with one set of practices versus another? Agile Denver aims to help you navigate
the waters of indecision by bringing together a panel of highly qualified
individuals to share their experiences in a moderated panel discussion, with
audience participation encouraged.

On Monday, March 28th, Agile Denver welcomes Zach Nies of Level3, Ryan Martens
of Rally Software Development, Martin VanDerSchouw of Looking Glass Development
and Tad Haas of Microsoft as our panel speakers. Each of them brings to the
table a unique perspective of ideas, strategies and thoughts.

The meeting will be held at the Qwest Auditorium in Downtown Denver. Doors open
at 6:00pm for networking and refreshments.

AGENDA:

6:00 - 6:25 PM  Networking and refreshments
6:25 - 6:35 PM  Announcements
6:35 - 7:45 PM  Panel Discussion
7:45 - 7:50 PM  Door prize giveaways

PANELIST

Zach Nies has been developing software and leading product development groups
for nearly 15 years.  He's worked as the Chief Software Architect of Quark,
started a desktop software company and is the Chief Technologist for Ralston
Technology Group and is currently a Principal Architect with Level3.  Zach also
has experience speaking at several industry conferences and has served on the
HTML working group within the W3C.  His successful experiences with Extreme
Programming led him to embrace and promote agile practices.

Ryan Martens, the President of Rally Software Development is an expert in
assisting organizations transitioning from traditional development processes to
more agile techniques.  Prior to founding Rally, Ryan directed the corporate
adoption of Internet technologies within Qwest Communications.  Ryan is an
alumnus of the Colorado Chapter of Young Entrepreneur's Organization and is also
involved in a variety of community organizations most notably as a board member
for the Front Range Alliance.

Martin VanDerSchouw currently serves as President & CEO of Looking Glass
Development and is in his final year as the President of the PMI Mile Hi
Chapter.  He is listed in the National Register Who's Who for Executives and
Professionals.  Additionally, Mr. VanDerSchouw is the recipient of PMI's 2004
Component Leadership Award.  Martin's work has appeared in publications such as
Forbes Magazine, Interactive Week, Virtual Finance, The LA Times, The San
Francisco Chronicle and the San Jose Mercury News.

Tad Haas has been an active participant in the PMI community since 1987.  He is
currently the Vice President of Membership for the Colorado branch. Throughout
his career, he has helped many organizations evaluate and implement enterprise
project management solutions.  He currently works with Microsoft as a Business
Productivity Specialist.  He's been a speaker at the Colorado PMO Forum, PMI
College of Performance Measurement, METAmorphosis, Project World events and PMI
National Symposiums, among others.

SPONSORS

March 2005 meeting sponsors to be announced.

DIRECTIONS

The Qwest auditorium is in the Qwest building on the corner of 17th and
Curtis. The street address is 1005 17th Street. Take the exterior escalators
facing 17th from street level to Level 1. You can then access the elevators
via doors to the right of the escalator landing. Take an elevator to Level A
for the auditorium. If these doors are locked, go to the main building lobby
which is on Level 1 if you proceed from the escalator landing.

In addition to street parking, there is an outside parking lot on the East
side of the Qwest building that costs a flat $6 after 4pm. Several other
lots are within a few blocks and covered parking can be found in the Tabor
Center for around $4.

A G I L E  D E N V E R
www.agiledenver.org

It would appear that they upgraded Wiki software, and perhaps in the
process lost all of our entries that had names with / in front of
them. :-/

- Brad

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:39:47 -0700, Richard Lawrence
<rslawrence@...> wrote:
> Anyone know what happened to all the minutes on the wiki?

--
Brad Wilson
http://www.dotnetdevs.com/
http://dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com/

"Customers don't want a drill. They want a hole."

Anyone know what happened to all the minutes on the wiki?

Richard

This is the CFP for the merged Agile Development Conference (ADC) and
XP Agile Universe (XPAU) conference:

Call for Participation - Agile 2005
July 24-29, 2005. Marriott Hotel, Denver, Colorado, USA.
http://www.agile2005.org

March 1:  Submissions due for Tutorials and Workshops

March 15:  Submissions due for Research Papers, Experience Reports, and
Educators' Symposium

Agile 2005 integrates the best features of the Agile Development
Conference and XP Agile Universe to create an exciting conference
about techniques and technologies, attitudes and policies, research
and experience, and the management and development sides of agile
software development. The agile approach focuses on delivering
business value early in the project lifetime and being able to
incorporate late-breaking requirements changes.  It accentuates the
use of rich, informal communication channels and frequent delivery of
running, tested systems, while attending to the human component of
software development.

Agile 2005 gives attendees access to the latest thinking in this
domain, and bridges communities that rarely get a proper chance to
exchange ideas and thoughts. It brings together researchers from labs
and academia with executives, managers, and developers in the trenches
of software development. Agile 2005 is not about a single methodology
or approach, but rather provides a forum for the exchange of
information regarding all agile development technologies.

We invite submissions for the following:
- Research Papers
- Experience Reports
- Tutorials
- Workshops / Peer to Peer Sessions
- Educators' Symposium

Other conference activities include:
- Introduction to Agile (for Agile "newbies")
- Executive Summit
- Open Space

FOR MORE INFORMATION:  http://www.agile2005.org

Quality Interactions: Building Effective Working Relationships

"...we have come to value:
     Individuals and interactions over processes and tools."

     - The Agile Manifesto

Our interactions can set off a positive spiral of increasing trust and openness
or a negative spiral of distrust and defensiveness. On Agile projects, our
success depends not just on technical skills, but on our abilities to build and
sustain strong, collaborative working relationships.

In this session, Esther will cover five tips for building, strengthening, and
maintaining quality working relationships with customers, peers, and others in
the workplace.

AGENDA:

6:00 - 6:30 PM  Networking and refreshments

6:30 - 6:35 PM  Announcements and door prize giveaways

6:35 - 7:45 PM  Presentation

SPEAKER

Esther Derby facilitates team and management problem-solving. She helps teams
plan the work; stay on track (or get back on track); and capture what they've
learned so they can apply it to the next project. Esther focuses on creating
situations that encourage teams to create knowledge and increase their
capabilities to deliver software on time and with the desired quality. Esther
has special expertise in facilitating mid-project reviews and post project
retrospectives.

A frequent speaker and author on software management issues, Esther has
published articles in Software Development, Cutter IT Journal, STQE, and on
StickyMinds.com. Esther Derby is currently Technical Editor for Better Software
(formerly STQE) magazine.

SPONSORS

The January 2005 meeting sponsors are:

- Telelogic (http://www.telelogic.com)
- Charles River Media (http://www.charlesriver.com)
- Softpro Books (http://www.softpro.com)
- Qwest (http://www.qwest.com)

DIRECTIONS

The Qwest auditorium is in the Qwest building on the corner of 17th and
Curtis. The street address is 1005 17th Street. Take the exterior escalators
facing 17th from street level to Level 1. You can then access the elevators
via doors to the right of the escalator landing. Take an elevator to Level A
for the auditorium. If these doors are locked, go to the main building lobby
which is on Level 1 if you proceed from the escalator landing.

In addition to street parking, there is an outside parking lot on the East
side of the Qwest building that costs a flat $6 after 4pm. Several other
lots are within a few blocks and covered parking can be found in the Tabor
Center for around $4.

A G I L E  D E N V E R
www.agiledenver.org

I'm still interested, and agree with Peter on speaker led discussions.
Unfortunately my schedule has prevented my attendance lately, but that
should be changing soon. :-)



________________________________

From: Peter Provost [mailto:pprovost@...]
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 12:37 AM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PragProg-Denver] Are people interested in continuing?



If I were still there I would vote for speaker led discussions (as
opposed to speaker presented lectures).

I'm glad you guys are holding this thing together and look forward to
coming to a meeting and talking with you guys about what I'm doing out
here in Redmond.

Hope everyone had a great Christmahanakwanzaka (blatantly stolen from
Scott Hanselman) and wish you all a great new year.

--
Peter Provost
Weblog: http://www.peterprovost.org/


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:53:44 -0700, Richard Lawrence
<rslawrence@...> wrote:
> I'd like to continue.
>
> The meetings where we had a speaker/expert, such as security with
> Keith or CI with Kris, but still had at least half Q&A and discussion
> were particularly successful. I'd like to see more of that. Agile
> modeling *might* have been interesting if we'd had an expert around.
>
> I favor continuing with the midweek meetings, and I like Tuesdays. I'm
> usually too busy on weekends.
>
> Richard
>
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:21:59 -0700, Steve Johnson
<sjjohnson@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Brad Wilson wrote:
> >
> > > - Richard mentioned that he figured all the "big topics" have been
> > > covered. What do you think? Are there any 2.5 hour chat topics
left of
> > > interest?
> >
> > Despite our name, we could broaden the focus a bit (oxymoron? :) ).
> > Actually, we seem to end up discussing more general software
> > engineering and geek stuff at the meetings anyway.
> >
> >
> > > - Would moving the day help? We could do any weekday downtown, or
> > > maybe we could do a weekend and do it at somebody's house.
> >
> > A day switch would probably be tough for me, but I'd try to work it
> > out.  Given the right day (including weekends), I'd be up for
hosting
> > some or all of the meetings at my home in Highlands Ranch (pending
> > spousal approval, of course), but I probably couldn't comfortably
host
> > more than about 10.
> >
> >
> > > - Should we change the format, and try to get speakers in? Would
any
> > > of the members be interested in giving talks on specific topics?
> >
> > Bringing in speakers would be fine by me, as long as about 2/3 of
the
> > time were left open for discussion.  The discussions and the
> > networking are the most beneficial parts of the meetings, to me.
> >
> > I'd be willing to take a turn giving a talk, if there were anything
> > people wanted to hear from me :).
> >
> > --
> > Steve Johnson
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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If I were still there I would vote for speaker led discussions (as
opposed to speaker presented lectures).

I'm glad you guys are holding this thing together and look forward to
coming to a meeting and talking with you guys about what I'm doing out
here in Redmond.

Hope everyone had a great Christmahanakwanzaka (blatantly stolen from
Scott Hanselman) and wish you all a great new year.

--
Peter Provost
Weblog: http://www.peterprovost.org/


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:53:44 -0700, Richard Lawrence
<rslawrence@...> wrote:
> I'd like to continue.
>
> The meetings where we had a speaker/expert, such as security with
> Keith or CI with Kris, but still had at least half Q&A and discussion
> were particularly successful. I'd like to see more of that. Agile
> modeling *might* have been interesting if we'd had an expert around.
>
> I favor continuing with the midweek meetings, and I like Tuesdays. I'm
> usually too busy on weekends.
>
> Richard
>
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:21:59 -0700, Steve Johnson <sjjohnson@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Brad Wilson wrote:
> >
> > > - Richard mentioned that he figured all the "big topics" have been
> > > covered. What do you think? Are there any 2.5 hour chat topics left of
> > > interest?
> >
> > Despite our name, we could broaden the focus a bit (oxymoron? :) ).
> > Actually, we seem to end up discussing more general software
> > engineering and geek stuff at the meetings anyway.
> >
> >
> > > - Would moving the day help? We could do any weekday downtown, or
> > > maybe we could do a weekend and do it at somebody's house.
> >
> > A day switch would probably be tough for me, but I'd try to work it
> > out.  Given the right day (including weekends), I'd be up for hosting
> > some or all of the meetings at my home in Highlands Ranch (pending
> > spousal approval, of course), but I probably couldn't comfortably host
> > more than about 10.
> >
> >
> > > - Should we change the format, and try to get speakers in? Would any
> > > of the members be interested in giving talks on specific topics?
> >
> > Bringing in speakers would be fine by me, as long as about 2/3 of the
> > time were left open for discussion.  The discussions and the
> > networking are the most beneficial parts of the meetings, to me.
> >
> > I'd be willing to take a turn giving a talk, if there were anything
> > people wanted to hear from me :).
> >
> > --
> > Steve Johnson
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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I'd like to continue.

The meetings where we had a speaker/expert, such as security with
Keith or CI with Kris, but still had at least half Q&A and discussion
were particularly successful. I'd like to see more of that. Agile
modeling *might* have been interesting if we'd had an expert around.

I favor continuing with the midweek meetings, and I like Tuesdays. I'm
usually too busy on weekends.

Richard

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:21:59 -0700, Steve Johnson <sjjohnson@...> wrote:
>
> Brad Wilson wrote:
>
> > - Richard mentioned that he figured all the "big topics" have been
> > covered. What do you think? Are there any 2.5 hour chat topics left of
> > interest?
>
> Despite our name, we could broaden the focus a bit (oxymoron? :) ).
> Actually, we seem to end up discussing more general software
> engineering and geek stuff at the meetings anyway.
>
>
> > - Would moving the day help? We could do any weekday downtown, or
> > maybe we could do a weekend and do it at somebody's house.
>
> A day switch would probably be tough for me, but I'd try to work it
> out.  Given the right day (including weekends), I'd be up for hosting
> some or all of the meetings at my home in Highlands Ranch (pending
> spousal approval, of course), but I probably couldn't comfortably host
> more than about 10.
>
>
> > - Should we change the format, and try to get speakers in? Would any
> > of the members be interested in giving talks on specific topics?
>
> Bringing in speakers would be fine by me, as long as about 2/3 of the
> time were left open for discussion.  The discussions and the
> networking are the most beneficial parts of the meetings, to me.
>
> I'd be willing to take a turn giving a talk, if there were anything
> people wanted to hear from me :).
>
> --
> Steve Johnson
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Brad Wilson wrote:

> - Richard mentioned that he figured all the "big topics" have been
> covered. What do you think? Are there any 2.5 hour chat topics left of
> interest?

Despite our name, we could broaden the focus a bit (oxymoron? :) ).
Actually, we seem to end up discussing more general software
engineering and geek stuff at the meetings anyway.


> - Would moving the day help? We could do any weekday downtown, or
> maybe we could do a weekend and do it at somebody's house.

A day switch would probably be tough for me, but I'd try to work it
out.  Given the right day (including weekends), I'd be up for hosting
some or all of the meetings at my home in Highlands Ranch (pending
spousal approval, of course), but I probably couldn't comfortably host
more than about 10.


> - Should we change the format, and try to get speakers in? Would any
> of the members be interested in giving talks on specific topics?

Bringing in speakers would be fine by me, as long as about 2/3 of the
time were left open for discussion.  The discussions and the
networking are the most beneficial parts of the meetings, to me.

I'd be willing to take a turn giving a talk, if there were anything
people wanted to hear from me :).


--
Steve Johnson

I'm a new participant, so actually things that you may consider 'done'
are things I might be interested in hearing about.

I'm afraid I'd have liked to attend last month, but December is a heck
of a month to schedule things with - plus, my sister was moving and I
had to help with that. :)

Beyond that, I'm too new to say.



--
John Fiala

We got very little interested for December, almost nobody responding
to the list and very few attendants. I'm hoping it was just because it
was December, and everybody was frazzled with holiday commitments.

Personally, I'd like to keep up the meetings, but if we've all decided
we can't do it, then so be it. I can always go to Keith's house and he
can thrash me at chess instead. :)

I'd like to open up the mailing list to ideas that would increase
attendance. A couple sort of directed questions:

- Richard mentioned that he figured all the "big topics" have been
covered. What do you think? Are there any 2.5 hour chat topics left of
interest?

- Would moving the day help? We could do any weekday downtown, or
maybe we could do a weekend and do it at somebody's house.

- Should we change the format, and try to get speakers in? Would any
of the members be interested in giving talks on specific topics?

Any other thoughts?

--
Brad Wilson
http://www.dotnetdevs.com/
http://dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com/

"If I sing a song, will you sing along?
  Or should I just keep singing right here by myself?"

Richard Lawrence wrote:


> I'm deciding whether to drive or take light rail tonight. How close is
> News Gator to a light rail station? Is it someplace I want to be
> standing around waiting for a train after our meeting?

NP...16th and California is just a coupla blocks away.

--
Steve Johnson

I'm deciding whether to drive or take light rail tonight. How close is
News Gator to a light rail station? Is it someplace I want to be
standing around waiting for a train after our meeting?

Thanks,

Richard

Ha! The men's room doesn't require a key any more. We're making
changes left and ... more left! :-p

- Brad

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:54:16 -0700, Steve Johnson <sjjohnson@...> wrote:
> Sweet!  3 NG employees.  That means we'll have 1 restroom key for
> every 2 people!  :)

Brad Wilson wrote:

> RSVP:
> Brad Wilson
> Lane Mohler
> Darryl Dreiling
> Steve Johnson
> Barry Funk
> Richard Lawrence

Sweet!  3 NG employees.  That means we'll have 1 restroom key for
every 2 people!  :)

--
Steve Johnson

Just read this now (Sorry for the lateness) I will be coming

	 -----Original Message-----
	 From: Brad Wilson
	 Sent: Mon 12/13/2004 1:41 PM
	 To: Pragmatic Practitioners
	 Cc:
	 Subject: [PragProg-Denver] MEETING: Tuesday, December 14th


	 Tuesday, December 14, 2004
	 5:30pm to 8:00pm

	 TOPIC:
	 Agile Modeling

	 LOCATION:
	 NewsGator Technologies
	 518 17th Street, Suite 900
	 Denver, CO 80202
	 Map: http://tinyurl.com/6uv4v
	 Parking: http://tinyurl.com/6eb9m

	 RSVP:
	 Brad Wilson
	 Lane Mohler
	 Darryl Dreiling
	 Steve Johnson
	 Barry Funk
	 Richard Lawrence

	 If you plan to attend but have not RSVP'd yet, then please
e-mail me
	 by noon on Tuesday so I can prepare for the food & beer
requirements.

	 --
	 Brad Wilson
	 http://www.dotnetdevs.com/
	 http://dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com/

	 "If I sing a song, will you sing along?
	 Or should I just keep singing right here by myself?"


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Tuesday, December 14, 2004
5:30pm to 8:00pm

TOPIC:
Agile Modeling

LOCATION:
NewsGator Technologies
518 17th Street, Suite 900
Denver, CO 80202
Map: http://tinyurl.com/6uv4v
Parking: http://tinyurl.com/6eb9m

RSVP:
Brad Wilson
Lane Mohler
Darryl Dreiling
Steve Johnson
Barry Funk
Richard Lawrence

If you plan to attend but have not RSVP'd yet, then please e-mail me
by noon on Tuesday so I can prepare for the food & beer requirements.

--
Brad Wilson
http://www.dotnetdevs.com/
http://dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com/

"If I sing a song, will you sing along?
  Or should I just keep singing right here by myself?"

It's just so much easier to go straight out the door!  Now if you locked the
south door, I'd have to walk past the conference room... wait, I shouldn't be
giving you ideas!

Actually, it turns out tuesdays are bad for me too, my wife has a church group
on Tuesday nights at 6:30.

--
Gordon Weakliem
http://www.eighty-twenty.net


-----Original Message from Greg Reinacker <gregr@...>-----

Too long of a walk from your office, Gordon? ;-)

-GR

-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Weakliem [mailto:gweakliem@...]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:53 PM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PragProg-Denver] Please RSVP for Dec 14


Unfortunately, I don't think I can make it to the meeting.

--
Gordon Weakliem
http://www.eighty-twenty.net


-----Original Message from Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...>-----

I have received, to date, zero RSVPs and zero votes for a topic. If I don't
get any replies over the next 24 hours, I'll cancel the meeting.

Thanks,
Brad

--
Brad Wilson
http://www.dotnetdevs.com/
http://dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com/

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Unfortunately, Tuesdays aren't the greatest of nights for me - I'm
going to have to skip this month. :(


--
John Fiala

Too long of a walk from your office, Gordon? ;-)

-GR

-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Weakliem [mailto:gweakliem@...]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:53 PM
To: pragprog-denver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PragProg-Denver] Please RSVP for Dec 14


  Unfortunately, I don't think I can make it to the meeting.

--
Gordon Weakliem
http://www.eighty-twenty.net


-----Original Message from Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...>-----

I have received, to date, zero RSVPs and zero votes for a topic. If I don't
get any replies over the next 24 hours, I'll cancel the meeting.

Thanks,
Brad

--
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I'll be there. I've forgotten what the topic choices were. I'll get
back to you on that.

Richard


On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:21:27 -0700, Steve Johnson <sjjohnson@...> wrote:
>
> Brad Wilson wrote:
>
> > I have received, to date, zero RSVPs and zero votes for a topic. If I
> > don't get any replies over the next 24 hours, I'll cancel the meeting.
>
> I'll be there.  I vote for agile modeling.
>
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> Steve Johnson
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Brad Wilson wrote:


> I have received, to date, zero RSVPs and zero votes for a topic. If I
> don't get any replies over the next 24 hours, I'll cancel the meeting.

I'll be there.  I vote for agile modeling.

--
Steve Johnson

Brad,

Sorry, My mother is coming in for the holidays that day.
I need to pick her up from the airport.

I am eage to make it to the next one though!

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Wilson [mailto:dotnetguy@...]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:23 PM
To: Pragmatic Practitioners
Subject: [PragProg-Denver] Please RSVP for Dec 14


I have received, to date, zero RSVPs and zero votes for a topic. If I don't
get any replies over the next 24 hours, I'll cancel the meeting.

Thanks,
Brad

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Unfortunately, I don't think I can make it to the meeting.

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Gordon Weakliem
http://www.eighty-twenty.net


-----Original Message from Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...>-----

I have received, to date, zero RSVPs and zero votes for a topic. If I
don't get any replies over the next 24 hours, I'll cancel the meeting.

Thanks,
Brad

--
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I have received, to date, zero RSVPs and zero votes for a topic. If I
don't get any replies over the next 24 hours, I'll cancel the meeting.

Thanks,
Brad

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"Why do I think that people who live and breathe SQL are from a
distant alien culture?" - Stuart Celarier on the WTOT mailing list

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:31:13 -0700, Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...> wrote:
> Do you think there's enough value in the things we utter to make it
> worth listening to by random people?

Dunno.  Probably depends on the topic


> If you missed a meeting, would you listen to the feed afterward?

Yes.


> Are you comfortable being recorded?

Sure, cuz no one would listen to me anyway :)

--
Steve Johnson

I'd be fine with recording, don't know if anyone would listen.

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-----Original Message from Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...>-----

So, I've got this wacky idea. Tell me what you think.

I'd like to bring audio equipment to the meeting (microphones, mixing
board, recording device), then record the meeting and release it as an
MP3 file.

Some initial questions:

Do you think there's enough value in the things we utter to make it
worth listening to by random people?

If you missed a meeting, would you listen to the feed afterward?

Are you comfortable being recorded?

--
Brad Wilson
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I would listen...

Once at least. If it sucked too bad, I probably wouldn't do it again. :)

--peter


On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:31:13 -0700, Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...> wrote:
> So, I've got this wacky idea. Tell me what you think.
>
> I'd like to bring audio equipment to the meeting (microphones, mixing
> board, recording device), then record the meeting and release it as an
> MP3 file.
>
> Some initial questions:
>
> Do you think there's enough value in the things we utter to make it
> worth listening to by random people?
>
> If you missed a meeting, would you listen to the feed afterward?
>
> Are you comfortable being recorded?
>
> --
> Brad Wilson
> http://www.dotnetdevs.com/
> http://dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com/
>
> "Why do I think that people who live and breathe SQL are from a
> distant alien culture?" - Stuart Celarier on the WTOT mailing list
>
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